I often hear muslims saying Allah is mysterious(a special pleading fallacy and cognitive dissonance) after they're challenged with critical questions, we can't know his ways, we can't understand him, he kept his knowledge mysterious, he do/does whatever he wants etc.

I have questions...

- How did you CERTAINLY know Allah exist if he's mysterious?

- If his knowledge cannot be known, what then is the point of the Qur'an?

- Why are you Allah's mouth speaker if we can't understand him?

- How can you know Allah has done a meaningless thing if he do/does whatever he wants?

Op, you can't get an answer with your rude approach. Don't expect someone to tell you who his beloved one is if you start by describing him rudely.

iceboy4752:
Op, you can't get an answer with your rude approach. Don't expect someone to tell you who his beloved one is if you start by describing him rudely.

Can you specifically mention where I was rude or you just want to pull a red herring tactics?

tintingz:


Can you specifically mention where I was rude or you just want to pull a red herring tactics?

You did not add "please"

tintingz:
I often hear muslims saying Allah is mysterious(a special pleading fallacy and cognitive dissonance) after they're challenged with critical questions, we can't know his ways, we can't understand him, he kept his knowledge mysterious, he do/does whatever he wants etc.

I have questions...

- How did you CERTAINLY know Allah exist if he's mysterious?

- If his knowledge cannot be known, what then is the point of the Qur'an?

- Why are you Allah's mouth speaker if we can't understand him?

- How can you know Allah has done a meaningless thing if he do/does whatever he wants?

It's a common tactic with theists/religionists to assert their god as unknowable while at the same time asserting they know the same god because they want to escape a question they have no answer for. What I don't know is if they don't realise they just trapped themselves into a trap of their own making.

LordReed:


It's a common tactic with theists/religionists to assert their god as unknowable while at the same time asserting they know the same god because they want to escape a question they have no answer for. What I don't know is if they don't realise they just trapped themselves into a trap of their own making.

They don't usually see it. Lol

hahn:


You did not add "please"

Lol. If that's it. Make dem no vex.

tintingz:
I often hear muslims saying Allah is mysterious(a special pleading fallacy and cognitive dissonance) after they're challenged with critical questions, we can't know his ways, we can't understand him, he kept his knowledge mysterious, he do/does whatever he wants etc.

I have questions...

- How did you CERTAINLY know Allah exist if he's mysterious?

- If his knowledge cannot be known, what then is the point of the Qur'an?

- Why are you Allah's mouth speaker if we can't understand him?

- How can you know Allah has done a meaningless thing if he do/does whatever he wants?

This is one of the reasons why I left islam.

Anytime there is a difficult / unanswerable question, Islamic scholars always portraying Allah as someone we can't understand fully with respect to
1. His way of doing things
2. His book (Qur'an)

The same scholars will tell you that Islam is a non-ambiguous religion and that the night of Islam is as clear as it day.

I realised I have been deceived for following the religion for such a long time.

This tactic is common to Christianity too.

I don't think I can ever follow any religion again. Religion to me is deception

I would rather face the reality of life than deceiving myself with a imaginary paradise with 72 virgins

Xmuslim:


This is one of the reasons why I left islam.

Anytime there is a difficult / unanswerable question, Islamic scholars always portraying Allah as someone we can't understand fully with respect to
1. His way of doing things
2. His book (Qur'an)

The same scholars will tell you that Islam is a non-ambiguous religion and that the night of Islam is as clear as it day.

I realised I have been deceived for following the religion for such a long time.

This tactic is common to Christianity too.

I don't think I can ever follow any religion again. Religion to me is deception

I would rather face the reality of life than deceiving myself with a imaginary paradise with 72 virgins

Alhamdulillah you left that cult religion.

tintingz:


Alhamdulillah you left that cult religion.

Alhamdulilah indeed

Xmuslim:


Alhamdulilah indeed

Sorry for asking this, you can ignore.

Are you new in this forum or you have been with us for long?

tintingz:
Sorry for asking this, you can ignore.

Are you new in this forum or you have been with us for long?

I joined nairaland since 2006.

Xmuslim:


I joined nairaland since 2006.

Oh Legends!

But this is not the monicker you used then?

Sorry for my questions.

tintingz:
Oh Legends!

But this is not the monicker you used then?

Sorry for my questions.

I opened this one this year. I apostated last year. I went for Hajj in 2018.

Infact, I have completed the five pillars of Islam before I finally agreed with my brain after many unresolved questions.

Belief in Allah and the Muhammad
Five daily prayers
Ramadan fasting
Zakat
Hajj

I'm not ready for drama from friends and family at the moment that's why I don't use my real account for this purpose.

Xmuslim:


I opened this one this year. I apostated last year. I went for Hajj in 2018.

Infact, I have completed the five pillars of Islam before I finally agreed with my brain after many unresolved questions.

Belief in Allah and the Muhammad
Five daily prayers
Ramadan fasting
Zakat
Hajj

I'm not ready for drama from friends and family at the moment that's why I don't use my real account for this purpose.

Wow.. this is great.

I hope to know who you were.

I don't know if I can send you a mail or something.

tintingz:


Wow.. this is great.

I hope to know who you were.

I don't know if I can send you a mail or something.

feel free to send me mail

Xmuslim:
feel free to send me mail

Okay.