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Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by Goshen360(m): 12:55pm On Nov 09, 2020
God2man2again:
1 Corinthians 13:9" For we know in part, and we prophecy in part"

@ Goshen360, what do you have to say about this verse?


No scripture is stand alone nor of private interpretation. That verse when interpreted in context is clearer than when it is isolated. So we know in part and prophecy in part in REGARDS OR WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MINISTRY GIFTS.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by livingchrist: 1:54pm On Nov 09, 2020
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Just one goal to build a world government
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by God2man2again(m): 3:31pm On Nov 09, 2020
Goshen360:


No scripture is stand alone nor of private interpretation. That verse when interpreted in context is clearer than when it is isolated. So we know in part and prophecy in part in REGARDS OR WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MINISTRY GIFTS.

When interpreted to mean?
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by birdman(m): 5:29pm On Nov 09, 2020
LordReed:
Then will come all the usual excuses.

Cool! If prophet comes out and admits they were wrong, ok. It is the guys that try to spin it into something else we really need to be wary of.

There is the holy spirit, and there is the human spirit, and even prophets have to be careful not to mix up the 2. This is one of the reasons the old school prophets, apostles stayed away from politics - you can get so emotionally involved it clouds the voice of the holy spirit. But you may not realize it because you think you are fighting for a good cause
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by Goshen360(m): 8:10pm On Nov 09, 2020
God2man2again:


When interpreted to mean?


It means our gift of knowledge are in parts and our gifts of prophecy are in parts. However what are in parts are made complete in Christ.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by God2man2again(m): 3:09am On Nov 10, 2020
Prophecies fail as a result of the mystery of knowing the PART.

The Bible says" whether there be prophecies,they shall fail"

God is sovereign. Sometimes, he will show part of what is about to happen, and some other times, God may decide to reveal everything.

The things that made God to be God are the things that we don't know. If we know everything, we begin to boast as if we are God.

Are the evangelicals liars? I don't know. Only God knows.

Some see a glimpse of what is about to happen, others are not allowed to see everything. It depends on their relationship with God.

It is well.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by Goshen360(m): 3:30am On Nov 10, 2020
God2man2again:
Prophecies fail as a result of the mystery of knowing the PART.

The Bible says" whether there be prophecies,they shall fail"

God is sovereign. Sometimes, he will show part of what is about to happen, and some other times, God may decide to reveal everything.

The things that made God to be God are the things that we don't know. If we know everything, we begin to boast as if we are God.

Are the evangelicals liars? I don't know. Only God knows.

Some see a glimpse of what is about to happen, others are not allowed to see everything. It depends on their relationship with God.

It is well.

God is not author of CONFUSION sir. He couldn't have told prophet A one thing and SAME GOD showed prophets B and C something different. That's not the GOD I know.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by God2man2again(m): 9:47am On Nov 10, 2020
Goshen360:


God is not author of CONFUSION sir. He couldn't have told prophet A one thing and SAME GOD showed prophets B and C something different. That's not the GOD I know.

Sir, in the book of 2 King 20: 1-6. New king James version
There was a prophecy from God through Isaiah the prophet that Hezekiah was going to die but Hezekiah repented and prayed, the prophecy was reversed.

In the book of Acts 10.
God revealed to Peter to eat somethings that are unclean descending from heaven, Peter said " Not so , Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean"
Verse 15 :And a voice spoke to him again the second time, " What God has cleansed you must not call common."
Verse 16: This was done three times. And the object taken up into heaven'

Verse 17: "Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision he had seen meant" NKJV


So what can we deduce from the above verses?

Even Peter the Apostle at the beginning could not really get the meaning of the revelation until some people came to look for him.

Everything depends on God's sovereignty and the way we interpret the prophecies. God knew that Hezekiah would repent then why did God sent Isaiah to Hezekiah in the first place? Later, God changed the prophecy.

Is God the author of confusion? No!

God is sovereign. God does what he likes.

Prayer can changed prophecy if rightly done just as we can cancel evil dream of accident, death or calamity.

God is not the author of confusion but of peace.

When it comes to prophecy, it is not all prophecies you make known to people, you need spiritual maturity and patience to deal with prophecy.

God may say to us to hold on but because we want show that we hear from God and we want people to know that we have heard from God, we go ahead to inform people whereas God is saying hold on or wait.

Prophecies may be misinterpreted but God has the final say.

God bless us.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by Goshen360(m): 3:23pm On Nov 14, 2020
God2man2again:


Sir, in the book of 2 King 20: 1-6. New king James version
There was a prophecy from God through Isaiah the prophet that Hezekiah was going to die but Hezekiah repented and prayed, the prophecy was reversed.

In the book of Acts 10.
God revealed to Peter to eat somethings that are unclean descending from heaven, Peter said " Not so , Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean"
Verse 15 :And a voice spoke to him again the second time, " What God has cleansed you must not call common."
Verse 16: This was done three times. And the object taken up into heaven'

Verse 17: "Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision he had seen meant" NKJV


So what can we deduce from the above verses?

Even Peter the Apostle at the beginning could not really get the meaning of the revelation until some people came to look for him.

Everything depends on God's sovereignty and the way we interpret the prophecies. God knew that Hezekiah would repent then why did God sent Isaiah to Hezekiah in the first place? Later, God changed the prophecy.

Is God the author of confusion? No!

God is sovereign. God does what he likes.

Prayer can changed prophecy if rightly done just as we can cancel evil dream of accident, death or calamity.

God is not the author of confusion but of peace.

When it comes to prophecy, it is not all prophecies you make known to people, you need spiritual maturity and patience to deal with prophecy.

God may say to us to hold on but because we want show that we hear from God and we want people to know that we have heard from God, we go ahead to inform people whereas God is saying hold on or wait.

Prophecies may be misinterpreted but God has the final say.

God bless us.


1. The new covenant is completely different from the old, prophecy in the new doesn't mean "foretelling" the future. All prophecies are locked up in the books of the bible. It is not the place of church, the body of Christ to be predicting election results - those are elements and crumbs which Christ never called us to do. We do not have such examples, not from Christ neither from the Apostles.

2. The case of Hezekiah. You're shooting yourself in the feet in the sense that God is not author of confusion. God first told Isaiah to tell him and after Hezekiah prayed, it was averted and same God told Isaiah AGAIN to go back and tell him God had averted the first prophecy. That clears the confusion. What do we see today? If God told a prophet to say Trump will win election...IS IT THE SAME GOD telling ANOTHER prophet Trump will LOOSE election? Again, if God tells a prophet Trump will WIN, and later Trump LOOSES, why don't the same God tell the same prophet Trump will loose to clear the first prophecy as also in the case of Hezekiah?

3. Peter's case has nothing to do with prophecy but vision which Peter didn't understand BUT IT WAS INTERPRETED IN THE WORD SO NOW WE KNOW.

4. I have never seen where God's prophecy didn't come to past unless men are misinterpreting it. If a man misinterpreted God's prophecy learn from it, be more mature, apologize to your audience AND MOVE ON...life doesn't end because you misinterpreted a prophecy.
Re: Lying Evangelicals On Trump's Re - Election by GOSPELTRUTH31: 11:42am On Dec 20, 2022
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