samuk:


I believe the present Ooni of Ife actually stated that Igbo people were the original inhabitants of Ife. I know those without any link to Ife will argue this and even insult the Ooni.

Juliusmalema:



While I acknowledged TAO11 was talking trash but this is another load of a higher trash.

Igbos are not so stupid to believe in useless fabrications.


You called obatala and it sounds igbo to your own meaning and you are regurgitating nonsense.

Education is a waste in Nigeria.

I remember so very vividly when Ooni of Ife referenced the obatala nonsense to igbo but was immediately cautioned by well seasoned scholars who are sound in learning.

While they acknowledge obatala might means something in igbo, they clearly told Ooni that there was no shared history and obatala as a Yoruba word has its meaning and interpretation to the Yorubas and means nothing to an igbo man


Nairaland is full of pathetic and one book historians.


As far as this is concerned, the word and name has no meaning to an Igbo man and it is an outright nonsense for someone to even write this gibberish.

TAO11:
The last time I devoted a flogging session to you, you wept profusely to the mods, claiming that I bullied you.

You were subsequently ignored because you lacked the stamina to soak in the torture without complain.

I really do hope something has changed this time around.

(1) There is no evidence that Igbos are the oldest group in Southern Nigeria.

All “Nigeria” ethno-linguistic groups spread out as distinct ethnic-linguistic groups from the region of the Middle Niger — mostly around the N-B confluence and above it.

They all settled into their present respective locations at about the same period of history.

The Iwo-Eleru human bones do not date to 43,000 years old. The Yorubas did not settle in from modern-day Kogi state.

The Yorubas have occupied their present location since many centuries BCE, not 1200 CE.

There is no evidence that modern-day Igbo people spoke a language similar to that spoken by the then forest dwellers of Ife.

(2) Obatala was not the first king in Ife. In fact, Ife had no singular monarchy overseeing its affairs prior to the present dynasty.

There is no evidence that Igbo (i.e. forest) in the context of ancient Ife relates to modern-day south-easterners.

(3) Lastly, the Moremi episode has everything to do with the Obatala Igbo (or forest) group as re-enacted till date in the annual Edi festival.

You have claimed that the Moremi is “absent in the history of South eastern Igbos today simply because it has nothing to do with them”.

Yet, somehow you want to claim Obatala in the same breath.

I wonder what logical reasoning sounds like to you. Scary? Or are you the new Binis in town?

(4) The name Ẹ̀keńwá has absolutely nothing to do with pre-Oduduwa Ife. It’s instead the name of one of Oduduwa’s later successor/descendant.

Yes, I understand your excitement, a modern south-eastern Igbo word sounds like it.

Cc: LegendHero

Tell me what "Ekenwa", "Oduduwa" "Edi" and Egungun mean in Yoruba you obese schlubb ....these are perfect Igbos words with little disfiguration

Moremi story is absent in the history of South eastern Igbos cos they themselves descended from different stocks of Igbos and not the ones that encountered Yoruba in Ile ife (Igbo omoku).


[b]Funfact

Hellraiser77:
[s][/s] First of all you are not Igbo and know nothing of Igbo culture let alone history

Your modus operandi on Nairaland has been to isolate all Igbo groups from themselves by opening multiple accounts of Igbo states and attacking yourself like a schizophrenic rapid dog

You are on a loosing battle trust me.

TheLionofLasigi:


Last word summerises all what you said, call our women dirty and urgly....they make up one of the most successful women in Africa, you say yoruba propaganda...lol Yoruba propaganda that made your state benefit from Awolowo's free education policy or the fact that it was a Yoruba man by the name of Ben Adekunle by means of his 3rd commandos that liberated you baboons from the biafran apes Lol even the insignificant bini's are talking about betrayal, you guys act all brave and violent with cultists killing themselves like chickens while fulani herdsmen raid and pillage your villages raping and killing your witches that you call mothers, your leaders are federal bitches getting ass fvcked on the daily.... I really won't engage you, you're inconsequential.

Ideadoctor:


everything you wrote from A-Z is trash, wrote it without your brain, oponu ode! eyin omo alainiran yi,eyin omo kosemulode koni da fun yin leyo kokan

BornRicch:


The best you can do is insult.... Coward. Omo ale, oni ranu, smiling dog.

Hellraiser77:
What a lying Cunt this beach is

The Iwo eleru remains is a "humanoid" discovery not like modern humans, this remains dates back 43,000 years ago you lying beach!!!

There is evidence that aboriginal Ife(Igbo omoku) dwellers spoke a language relates to modern igbo spoken in the south east.....Tell me what "Ekenwa", "Oduduwa" "Edi" and Egungun mean in Yoruba you obese schlubb ....these are perfect Igbos words with little disfiguration

Moremi story is absent in the history of South eastern Igbos cos they themselves descended from different stocks of Ig Ile ife (Igbo omoku).


[b]Funfact- Yoruba is a very recent language and culture which has no place at the table of the elders where- IGBO, Igala, IDU and jukun will sit

BornRicch:

Lol, you have changed your tune. It's a war of words you speak ill of my tribe, and I had to respond to your post. Please, spare me the bullshit of your women making up of the most successful women in Africa. Have you had of tribal cards? Majority of your so called successful men/women gained wealth through politics and connection from the Govt. Yes, Awolowo free education was the light of your race and he is the greatest Yoruba man for me. But things have changed and we're not in regional government anymore. I didn't touch on the Biafra claim on my comment above but you brought it up again that to show you're very ill and myopic in your thinking.. Biafra didn't defeat US instead the Nigeria Government, though let's assumed Biafra defeated the Midwest. There are lots of tribes in the Midwestern region why focusing your hate on Edos? Mr man, I grew up in Lagos. When we're talking about cultish, it's everywhere in southwest, but I would focus on Lagos. Agberos, Areaboys, One million boys, I guess they're all in Edo State, right? Counting of score is synonymous to your tribe in Lagos, places like Ebute Metta, Island, Mushin, Ikorodu, Agege, Oshodi, etc. Do you know how many of my street guys have died from stupid fight because of some chairman? What about School fight in Lagos? Please, I'm done talking to you. I rest my case. Bye for life.

Hellraiser77:
What a lying Cunt this beach is

The Iwo eleru remains is a "humanoid" discovery not like modern humans, this remains dates back 43,000 years ago you lying beach!!!

There is evidence that aboriginal Ife(Igbo omoku) dwellers spoke a language relates to modern igbo spoken in the south east.....Tell me what "Ekenwa", "Oduduwa" "Edi" and Egungun mean in Yoruba you obese schlubb ....these are perfect Igbos words with little disfiguration

Moremi story is absent in the history of South eastern Igbos cos they themselves descended from different stocks of Ig Ile ife (Igbo omoku).


[b]Funfact- Yoruba is a very recent language and culture which has no place at the table of the elders where- IGBO, Igala, IDU and jukun will sit

Hellraiser77:
What a lying Cunt this beach is

The Iwo eleru remains is a "humanoid" discovery not like modern humans, this remains dates back 43,000 years ago you lying beach!!!

There is evidence that aboriginal Ife(Igbo omoku) dwellers spoke a language relates to modern igbo spoken in the south east.....Tell me what "Ekenwa", "Oduduwa" "Edi" and Egungun mean in Yoruba you obese schlubb ....these are perfect Igbos words with little disfiguration

Moremi story is absent in the history of South eastern Igbos cos they themselves descended from different stocks of Igbos and not the ones that encountered Yoruba in Ile ife (Igbo omoku).


[b]Funfact- Yoruba is a very recent language and culture which has no place at the table of the elders where- IGBO, Igala, IDU and jukun will sit

Hellraiser77:
Ile ife(Igbo omoku) was originally an Igbo settlement inhabited by an Igbo group distinct from today's south easterners

Wether you like this fact or not take it up with your ooni who wouldn't stop talking about it lately

Ideadoctor:


Bros are you alright? Yoruba is a recent language or what did you say,better be careful

TAO11:
Wonderful!!

Anyways, Igbo means forest, and Olugbo is NOT an Eboe man.

Please change my mind.

Hellraiser77:
Well it's the honest truth, Yoruba broke away from igala few centuries ago and lost their "kw" "gw" "Ch" "NW" and "Z" sounds which the igala language retains just like Igbo till today

Truth is not measured in mass appeal sorry

Hellraiser77:
[s]For millenias up until today the Igbo stock anywhere they ae found have favoured building their villages deep in the forest without clearing and cutting down trees like their more northern cousins

These people where in perfect union with nature early on, hence their early mastery of mystical methods and advanced juju.

Funfact Up until today some rituals have to be observed before certain trees are cut in Igboland[/s]

Ideadoctor:
were you there when the language broke? more over,IFA chanting proofs that Yoruba language is almost the same as it is 4000 years ago

TAO11:
Yawns! Poor attempt at super story. This is no where close to changing my mind.

Try again!

Hellraiser77:
Scientific research has it that Yoruba came from a more northern location near the confluence of the Niger and the Benue rivers in modern day Kogi state

Meanwhile have you heard an igala person speak?.......it's like an ancient version of Yoruba and heavy on the mouth

Yoruba is like a baby where Igbos and igala are

Ideadoctor:
were you there when the language broke? more over,IFA chanting proofs that Yoruba language is almost the same as it is 4000 years ago

Hellraiser77:
Ifa is a gift Yoruba received from Igbo omoku people they met in Ife.....Igbos as a distinct people and language precedes Yoruba by 3000 whole years.

Besides this same Ifa in one of its "Odu"s mentions the modern Ile ife as a fake replica

Ideadoctor:

as if you were there when ancient Yoruba was been spoken, Yoruba language is a mother language that other language feeds from,ask attah of igala,he would tell you that igala is fusion of different languages

Ideadoctor:
now I know I have been conversing with an illiterate since, abeg shift make person wey dey reason wella con debate me

You are constantly sliding into my tar pit once I have you in position I will slaughter you mercilessly like I did to Tao11 the lying cunt

Hellraiser77:
[s]Scientific research has it that Yoruba came from a more northern location near the confluence of the Niger and the Benue rivers in modern day Kogi state

Meanwhile have you heard an igala person speak?.......it's like an ancient version of Yoruba and heavy on the mouth

Yoruba is like a baby where Igbos and igala are[/s]

Ideadoctor:
now I know I have been conversing with an illiterate since, abeg shift make person wey dey reason wella con debate me

TAO11:
Janus-faced liar!

Yorubas came from modern-day Kogi State ??

Aba research told you that, not scientific research. Stop abusing the word “science”, dullard.

You’d better stick to changing my mind into accepting you to Ile-Ife
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Cc: Ideadoctor,

Yoruba, Igala, Edo, Idoma, Ebira, Nupe, Kakanda, Gbagyi, and Igbo all branched off from the same common proto-language some 6,000 years ago.

This is what scientific research says, not the Aba made research of this die-hard Yoruba-wannabe.

TAO11:

Rule 15. Cc: Mynd44, Seun

Hellraiser77:
Emotional cry baby

You are constantly sliding into my tar pit once I have you in position I will slaughter you mercilessly like I did to Tao11 the lying cunt

Hellraiser77:
Go and meet your Ooni in Ife to change your mind

TAO11:
Janus-faced liar!

Yorubas came from modern-day Kogi State ??

Aba research told you that, not scientific research. Stop abusing the word “science”, dullard.

You’d better stick to changing my mind into accepting you to Ile-Ife.
————————
Cc: Ideadoctor,

Yoruba, Igala, Edo, Idoma, Ebira, Nupe, Kakanda, Gbagyi, and Igbo all branched off from the same common proto-language some 6,000 years ago.

This is what scientific research says, not the Aba made research of this die-hard Yoruba-wannabe.

Hellraiser77:
You go cry blood for my hand

I'm doing you a favour by making you lose weight via emotional exercise

TAO11:
A super-dumb illiterate for that matter.