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Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 1:13pm On Dec 22, 2020
Understanding the truth about Hell fire.

This is a short eassy on the doctrine of Hell fire, its purpose is to reveal the truth of God's word with regards to this subject or doctrine.

First What is Hell?
The word Hell can have several meaning depending on the context in which it is used.
The word translated as Hell is translated from 4 different words with different meaning.

1. Gehanna:it is a Greek word translated as Hell it means a place of burning waste.
It is the popular Hell fire that is known to everyone both Christians and Atheists.
Matthew 5:22,29,30, Luke 12:5,Luke 18:9,Mark 9:43.

2.Sheol: This Hebrew word translated as the Hell it means the grave,it is used 65 times in the Bible. Amos9:2,Job12:16,psalms6:5,Job7:9,
Genesis 43:38.

3.Hades: Is the greek news testament word for Sheol or grave, it is also translated as Hell e.g Acts2:31, Matthew11:23, Rev20:14, Rev6:8.

4.The word Tartarus is greek word translated as hell but its meaning is different from other forms or examples of Hell,it means a place of darkness or restrain. 2Peter 2:4, Jude1:13, Jude1:6,Ephesians 5:11.


Our subject of interest or emphasis will be on Gehanna or Hell fire talked about by Jesus as a place of burning and punishment of the wicked.

1.
Why Hell, and what's its purpose?Ans:To punish the wicked and cleanse the Earth of sin.
The bible says the wages of sin is death Romans6:23, Job31:3, Rev21:8.

2. Hell was created for who?
Hell was prepared for the Devil and his Demons. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

3.Where is Hell?
Ans is the Earth, Hell fire would be located right here on the Earth surface.
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Peter 3:10,Isaiah 34:9,Zephaniah 1:18.


4.Are people presently in Gehanna or Hellfire ?

The answer is No, all the dead people are in their graves waiting for the judgement day.

Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

5.What kind of people would be thrown into Hell fire?
Ans:Fornicators,liars,robbers,Idolators,drunkards e.t.c Rev 21:18

6*.When will the fire of Hell be Kindled?
Ans: At the end of the World (day of Judgement)
2peter 3:7

7*.Would the fire of Hell be a literal physical fire or just symbolic ?
Ans: Yes .
The fire of Hell will be literal physical fire, as we all know Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by physical real fire from God and we are told that this World and the wicked will be destroyed in like manner. Genesis19:24 , Genesis19:28, 2Peter 2:6,Jude1:7,Luke 17:29,Rev21:8,Rev 20:15,Rev20:9,Isaiah 47:14.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


8*.Would the fire last forever?
Ans: No
it would last as long as is required to destroy the wicked.
Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

9*. What would happen to the people thrown into the lake of fire.
Ans. They would be tormented and burnt to ashes, meaning that they will die. 2peter 2:6,Malachi4:3, Ezekiel 28:18,Isaiah 66:24,Isaiah 51:6. They would cease to exist Psalm37:20.


10* Would those thrown into Hellfire ever die?
The Ans is Yes, The Bible calls it the second death.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


11*. I thought the Devil is already in Hell ?

Ans is : No,
The Devil is in Tartarus (Hell). although translated as Hell, but it is not the same as Hell fire(Gehanna) but rather it means a place of darkness where they are reserved till the day of judgement.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the TIME?

12*. Is the Devil in charge of Hell?
Ans: No

Rather the Devil will be destroyed in the fire of Hell. Ezekiel 28:14. Isaiah14:1-end.


13*What is cast into Hell? Is it the Spirit, body,Soul of the wicked or living persons of the wicked?
Ans: Living persons which consists of body, spirits(mind,breathe) and Soul(personality).

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

14*How long will be the fire of Hell and how long would each one thrown into the fire live or suffer the pain of Hell fire?
Ans: The fire of Hell will last as long as is sufficient to destroy all the wicked.
Each person will last in the fire according to what there works or rewards demands(Justice demands) Matthew 16:17,Isaiah 47:14.

15*But the Bible uses the word Forever to describe those in Hell fire.
Ans : Yes the word Forever when used in the Bible does not necessarily mean something without end , there are several examples in the Bible were the word 'Forever ' were used in the Bible to describe things that have already ended.
1Samuel 1:22,Exdous21, Isaiah 34:10, Jonah 2:6.

16* What is the meaning of eternal fire or unquenchable fire, does it mean a fire that would never stop?
Ans is No.
It means a fire that cannot be extinguished by any human means or effort. it describes a fire Kindled by God and can only be extinguished by him. but after the fire has destroyed the wicked it will be go off.
There are examples in the bible of things or places destroyed by eternal fire or unquenchable fire that are still not burning presently.
E.g Is Jerusalem,
Isaiah51:6,Isaiah 34:10, Jeremiah 7:20,Jeremiah 17:27,2chronicles 36:19-21.

17*What about the Richman and Lazarus, did they both go to Hell and Heaven respectively immediately after their death?
Ans is No, The story is only a parable used by Jesus to illustrate a point, it should not be taken Literally.
Both the saved and unsaved are in their
graves waiting for the judgement day.
Luke15:4, Luke 15:8, Luke 15:11,Luke16:1

18*Did Jesus go to Hell Fire on our behalf?
Ans is No. Jesus only went to the Sheol or Hades (grave) also translated as Hell.

19*What will happen after Hell fire:Ans God will create a New Heaven and Earth.
death and Hell were cast into fire, the Hell here is referring to the grave since death would no more exist the grave would also cease to exist.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Conclusion.
We have learnt that The word Hell in the Bible, can also mean the grave or a place of darkness and restrain.
Secondly we also learnt that the words eternal, forever and unquenchable when used in the Bible does not mean something that does not end and it should not be taken literally.
From this article we can clearly see and understand better the truth about God's word or teachings on Hell.
This is far from the lies that the Devil have sold to the church that God will burn the wicked for eternity.
God will punish the wicked in the lake of fire, but God would never punish the wicked beyond what is required, for he is a just and loving God Who wish that none will perish but that all would repent and have eternal life through Jesus Christ his son.

Thank you for reading and God bless.

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Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:48pm On Dec 22, 2020
Simply put hell is the spirit and state of being in the clasps of pain, suffering, torture and evil all at once eg when you fall into the trap of your enemy, you know you have just entered into hell or hell has come upon you whichever is the case.

Or when you have not paid your rent then your landlord calls, whooo shocked "shivering", the cold or hot hands of hell have grabbed your soul!
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 5:02pm On Dec 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Simply put hell is the spirit and state of being in the clasps of pain, suffering, torture and evil all at once eg when you fall into the trap of your enemy, you know you have just entered into hell or hell has come upon you whichever is the case.

Or when you have not paid your rent then your landlord calls, whooo shocked "shivering", the cold or hot hands of hell have grabbed your soul!

That's false.
Hellfire will be physical not symbolic or an ideology.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:11pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:


That's false.
Hellfire will be physical not symbolic or an ideology.

I am exhibiting the junior brother of hell when it comes visiting on earth.

And Correction, it is not hellfire it is Lake of Fire!

And when you say physical surely you do not mean skin and bones cos you know the flesh returneth to Dust?
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by FirstSon01: 5:29pm On Dec 22, 2020
this is the effect of religion see all these confused peeps above me cheesy
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Ihedinobi3: 5:36pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:
Understanding the truth about Hell fire.

This is a short eassy on the doctrine of Hell fire, its purpose is to reveal the truth of God's word with regards to this subject or doctrine.

First What is Hell?
The word Hell can have several meaning depending on the context in which it is used.
The word translated as Hell is translated from 4 different words with different meaning.

1. Gehanna:it is a Greek word translated as Hell it means a place of burning waste.
It is the popular Hell fire that is known to everyone both Christians and Atheists.
Matthew 5:22,29,30, Luke 12:5,Luke 18:9,Mark 9:43.

2.Sheol: This Hebrew word translated as the Hell it means the grave,it is used 65 times in the Bible. Amos9:2,Job12:16,psalms6:5,Job7:9,
Genesis 43:38.

3.Hades: Is the greek news testament word for Sheol or grave, it is also translated as Hell e.g Acts2:31, Matthew11:23, Rev20:14, Rev6:8.

4.The word Tartarus is greek word translated as hell but its meaning is different from other forms or examples of Hell,it means a place of darkness or restrain. 2Peter 2:4, Jude1:13, Jude1:6,Ephesians 5:11.


Our subject of interest or emphasis will be on Gehanna or Hell fire talked about by Jesus as a place of burning and punishment of the wicked.

1.
Why Hell, and what's its purpose?Ans:To punish the wicked and cleanse the Earth of sin.
The bible says the wages of sin is death Romans6:23, Job31:3, Rev21:8.

2. Hell was created for who?
Hell was prepared for the Devil and his Demons. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

3.Where is Hell?
Ans is the Earth, Hell fire would be located right here on the Earth surface.
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2Peter 3:10,Isaiah 34:9,Zephaniah 1:18.


4.Are people presently in Gehanna or Hellfire ?

The answer is No, all the dead people are in their graves waiting for the judgement day.

Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

5.What kind of people would be thrown into Hell fire?
Ans:Fornicators,liars,robbers,Idolators,drunkards e.t.c Rev 21:18

6*.When will the fire of Hell be Kindled?
Ans: At the end of the World (day of Judgement)
2peter 3:7

7*.Would the fire of Hell be a literal physical fire or just symbolic ?
Ans: Yes .
The fire of Hell will be literal physical fire, as we all know Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by physical real fire from God and we are told that this World and the wicked will be destroyed in like manner. Genesis19:24 , Genesis19:28, 2Peter 2:6,Jude1:7,Luke 17:29,Rev21:8,Rev 20:15,Rev20:9,Isaiah 47:14.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


8*.Would the fire last forever?
Ans: No
it would last as long as is required to destroy the wicked.
Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

9*. What would happen to the people thrown into the lake of fire.
Ans. They would be tormented and burnt to ashes, meaning that they will die. 2peter 2:6,Malachi4:3, Ezekiel 28:18,Isaiah 66:24,Isaiah 51:6. They would cease to exist Psalm37:20.


10* Would those thrown into Hellfire ever die?
The Ans is Yes, The Bible calls it the second death.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


11*. I thought the Devil is already in Hell ?

Ans is : No,
The Devil is in Tartarus (Hell). although translated as Hell, but it is not the same as Hell fire(Gehanna) but rather it means a place of darkness where they are reserved till the day of judgement.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the TIME?

12*. Is the Devil in charge of Hell?
Ans: No

Rather the Devil will be destroyed in the fire of Hell. Ezekiel 28:14. Isaiah14:1-end.


13*What is cast into Hell? Is it the Spirit, body,Soul of the wicked or living persons of the wicked?
Ans: Living persons which consists of body, spirits(mind,breathe) and Soul(personality).

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

14*How long will be the fire of Hell and how long would each one thrown into the fire live or suffer the pain of Hell fire?
Ans: The fire of Hell will last as long as is sufficient to destroy all the wicked.
Each person will last in the fire according to what there works or rewards demands(Justice demands) Matthew 16:17,Isaiah 47:14.

15*But the Bible uses the word Forever to describe those in Hell fire.
Ans : Yes the word Forever when used in the Bible does not necessarily mean something without end , there are several examples in the Bible were the word 'Forever ' were used in the Bible to describe things that have already ended.
1Samuel 1:22,Exdous21, Isaiah 34:10, Jonah 2:6.

16* What is the meaning of eternal fire or unquenchable fire, does it mean a fire that would never stop?
Ans is No.
It means a fire that cannot be extinguished by any human means or effort. it describes a fire Kindled by God and can only be extinguished by him. but after the fire has destroyed the wicked it will be go off.
There are examples in the bible of things or places destroyed by eternal fire or unquenchable fire that are still not burning presently.
E.g Is Jerusalem,
Isaiah51:6,Isaiah 34:10, Jeremiah 7:20,Jeremiah 17:27,2chronicles 36:19-21.

17*What about the Richman and Lazarus, did they both go to Hell and Heaven respectively immediately after their death?
Ans is No, The story is only a parable used by Jesus to illustrate a point, it should not be taken Literally.
Both the saved and unsaved are in their
graves waiting for the judgement day.
Luke15:4, Luke 15:8, Luke 15:11,Luke16:1

18*Did Jesus go to Hell Fire on our behalf?
Ans is No. Jesus only went to the Sheol or Hades (grave) also translated as Hell.

19*What will happen after Hell fire:Ans God will create a New Heaven and Earth.
death and Hell were cast into fire, the Hell here is referring to the grave since death would no more exist the grave would also cease to exist.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Conclusion.
We have learnt that The word Hell in the Bible, can also mean the grave or a place of darkness and restrain.
Secondly we also learnt that the words eternal, forever and unquenchable when used in the Bible does not mean something that does not end and it should not be taken literally.
From this article we can clearly see and understand better the truth about God's word or teachings on Hell.
This is far from the lies that the Devil have sold to the church that God will burn the wicked for eternity.
God will punish the wicked in the lake of fire, but God would never punish the wicked beyond what is required, for he is a just and loving God Who wish that none will perish but that all would repent and have eternal life through Jesus Christ his son.

Thank you for reading and God bless.

https://www.nairaland.com/5520177/man-satan-immortality
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:44pm On Dec 22, 2020
FirstSon01:
this is the effect of religion
see all these confused peeps above me cheesy

..
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:46pm On Dec 22, 2020
FirstSon01:
this is the effect of religion
see all these confused peeps above me cheesy

Even in your own brain, confusion lives there as a virus, so nothing special about it! grin

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Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:54pm On Dec 22, 2020
So Lazarus and the Rich man was not a true life story but a Parable!
Hmmmmm, well i reserve my comment! undecided
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by illicit(m): 6:18pm On Dec 22, 2020
There's no hell anywhere bro....

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Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by truespeak: 7:07pm On Dec 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Even in your own brain, confusion lives there as a virus, so nothing special about it! grin

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Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by chukwunweikeemi(m): 7:26pm On Dec 22, 2020
There is heaven and there is hell fire.God wants us to make heaven and that's why he sent his son Jesus Christ to die for our sins.When you admit you are a sinner and then you trust on christ's death,burial and resurrection to be the FULL PAYMENT for your sins then God will give you the gift of everlasting life.You can then say you are saved or born again.Pls my friend accept Christ as your savior.You've nothing to loose if you do.If you die in your sins without Christ as your savior then the hell fire you claim does not exist shall be your everlasting abode.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:32pm On Dec 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


I am exhibiting the junior brother of hell when it comes visiting on earth.

And Correction, it is not hellfire it is Lake of Fire!

And when you say physical surely you do not mean skin and bones cos you know the flesh returneth to Dust?

That's why there will be a resurrection.
Both Hell fire and lake of fire mean the same thing.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:33pm On Dec 22, 2020
chukwunweikeemi:
There is heaven and there is hell fire.God wants us to make heaven and that's why he sent his son Jesus Christ to die for our sins.When you admit you are a sinner and then you trust on christ's death,burial and resurrection to be the FULL PAYMENT for your sins then God will give you the gift of everlasting life.You can then say you are saved or born again.Pls my friend accept Christ as your savior.You've nothing to loose if you do.If you die in your sins without Christ as your savior then the hell fire you claim does not exist shall be your everlasting abode.


That's true.

But no one is claiming that Hell does not exist.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:34pm On Dec 22, 2020
illicit:
There's no hell anywhere bro....

Bro Hell exist, and it was made for the Devil and his Demons with the wicked.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:35pm On Dec 22, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
So Lazarus and the Rich man was not a true life story but a Parable!
Hmmmmm, well i reserve my comment! undecided

You can show us proof that it was not a parable.
Let me ask you where is Abraham Bosom?
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:36pm On Dec 22, 2020
FirstSon01:
this is the effect of religion
see all these confused peeps above me cheesy

I guess you are an Athiest, the most confused and naive people on planet earth.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 7:38pm On Dec 22, 2020
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by olamiji98448: 7:41pm On Dec 22, 2020
So Lazarus and the Rich man was not a true life story but a Parable! Hmmmmm, well i reserve my comment!
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:48pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:


That's why there will be a resurrection.
Both Hell fire and lake of fire mean the same thing.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The question is awake how? Answer! The Unseen and Unphysical side of man.

The Law is "The flesh Profiteth Nothing, the spirit is Life (the Unsaid Part is and Death Also!)

I Rest please!
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Kobojunkie: 8:04pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:

Bro Hell exist, and it was made for the Devil and his Demons with the wicked.
Well, according to Jesus Christ it is also meant for those who believe in Him but refuse to Obey Him.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Ihedinobi3: 8:17pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:


What is it, about the link you posted?

Only that you've discussed this subject at least once before (I think you have discussed it several times, in fact, but I have no time to go through all your topics and posts to find places where you have), so it would seem that you're really trying to convince yourself that you are right about what you believe here. In other words, I think that you have at least a suspicion that you are quite wrong about the things you are saying. But since it is important to you for them to be true, maybe it would be best if you just believed them and stopped bothering to debate them. You will only agitate yourself more and more to no good end.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39pm On Dec 22, 2020
You said it's a Parable, that's what my group (JW) believe from day one. But my comment will be reserved until none-JWs drop their comments!

blueAgent:

You can show us proof that it was not a parable.
Let me ask you where is Abraham Bosom?
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:40pm On Dec 22, 2020
Ihedinobi3:


Only that you've discussed this subject at least once before (I think you have discussed it several times, in fact, but I have no time to go through all your topics and posts to find places where you have), so it would seem that you're really trying to convince yourself that you are right about what you believe here. In other words, I think that you have at least a suspicion that you are quite wrong about the things you are saying. But since it is important to you for them to be true, maybe it would be best if you just believed them and stopped bothering to debate them. You will only agitate yourself mor
e and more to no good end.


You are quite funny.

You really need to work on your comprehension, secondly all this topics are different although they might be related but they are all speaking on different things.

This is quite obvious for any one with sense.
On the issue of me been wrong, the onus is on you to prove to us why and how I am wrong.
Until you do that no one will take you serious especially when you cannot comprehend simple articles.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:41pm On Dec 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Well, according to Jesus Christ it is also meant for those who believe in Him but refuse to Obey Him.

Those who believe in him but refuse to obey him are also called wicked.
The word wicked is used to distinguish those who please God in all their deeds and those who do not.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Kobojunkie: 8:45pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:

Those who believe in him but refuse to obey him are also called wicked.
The word wicked is used to distinguish those who please God in all their deeds and those who do not.
Well, the word wicked can also apply to those who do not believe at all in Him, so it is vital to make it clear that the wicked, as used by you, refers only to those who believe in Jesus Christ(are saved onto eternal life) but refused to obey Him.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Ihedinobi3: 8:46pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:



You are quite funny.

You really need to work on your comprehension, secondly all this topics are different although they might be related but they are all speaking on different things.

This is quite obvious for any one with sense.
On the issue of me been wrong, the onus is on you to prove to us why and how I am wrong.
Until you do that no one will take you serious especially when you cannot comprehend simple articles.


Of course the topic was different, but what I said is that you have discussed this before elsewhere. Must it be the same topic for you to discuss it?

I have no interest in debating with you. I already did it once and established that you have a rather unflinching aversion to the Truth, so I won't waste my time and energy. I was just pointing out that if you really believe these things, you'll stop trying to convince others about it. Those who are confident that something is true don't spend as much energy talking about it as you appear to.

That's all I have to say. Make of it what you will.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:50pm On Dec 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


The question is awake how? Answer! The Unseen and Unphysical side of man.

The Law is "The flesh Profiteth Nothing, the spirit is Life (the Unsaid Part is and Death Also!)
I Rest please!

You make mountain out of gravel.
God's word is straightforward, you are only complicating it and thereby confusing yourself and others.


Please click and read this is what the spirit if man is.

http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/books/27/27-07.htm


You can ask any question with regards to this topic or link I would be willingly to answer you.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:54pm On Dec 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Well, the word wicked can also apply to those who do not believe at all in Him, so it is vital to make it clear that the wicked, as used by you, refers only to those who believe in Jesus Christ(are saved onto eternal life) but refused to obey Him.

Whichever one anyone who does not make Heaven is wicked in the sight of God, weather they believe in him or not.

Do you know that the Devil also believes in God?
But he is regarded as a murderer a thief, a wicked being and would be destroyed in the lake of fire.


James 2:19, KJV: "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble"
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:56pm On Dec 22, 2020
Ihedinobi3:


Of course the topic was different, but what I said is that you have discussed this before elsewhere. Must it be the same topic for you to discuss it?

I have no interest in debating with you. I already did it once and established that you have a rather unflinching aversion to the Truth, so I won't waste my time and energy. I was just pointing out that if you really believe these things, you'll stop trying to convince others about it. Those who are confident that something is true don't spend as much energy talking about it as you appear to.

That's all I have to say. Make of it what you will.

Show me were I discussed it.

I wrote on immortality with the purpose of proving that man does not possess it inherently.

Then I wrote this on Hell to prove that God's word and teaching on Hell has been misinterpreted, so Mr know all tell me how they are the same?
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by Kobojunkie: 8:58pm On Dec 22, 2020
blueAgent:


Whichever one anyone who does not make Heaven is wicked in the sight of God, weather they believe in him or not.

Do you know that the Devil also believes in God?
But he is regarded as a murderer a thief, a wicked being and would be destroyed in the lake of fire.


James 2:19, KJV: "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble"
The point is that all those who end up in Hell believe Jesus Christ - the devil, demons, believers who turn out to be goats - they all believe and have eternal life which they will spend in their.

Unbelievers have no place in Hell since they do not belong to Jesus Christ.
Re: Understanding The Facts And Truth About Hellfire. by blueAgent(m): 8:59pm On Dec 22, 2020
Ihedinobi3:


Of course the topic was different, but what I said is that you have discussed this before elsewhere. Must it be the same topic for you to discuss it?

I have no interest in debating with you. I already did it once and established that you have a rather unflinching aversion to the Truth, so I won't waste my time and energy. I was just pointing out that if you really believe these things, you'll stop trying to convince others about it. Those who are confident that something is true don't spend as much energy talking about it as you appear to.

That's all I have to say. Make of it what you will.

You argued and lost.

You know you have nothing to disprove so you resort to claiming what is not true.

If you are sure and confident of yourselves than prove your point.
It's simple.

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