Yeah well its true,if u give them the code,they tend to depend on you before u know it u might end up building someone else's website for free.New Rule no more free codes,Pseudo Codes it will help one learn.

Mr guru posters, if u know u r good in java why cnt u develop somtin gr8 dt wil make u remarkable in d world.

D richest kid in IT to me is zukerbird, d fb guy. he is nt d best programa out there. Y cnt we 4 GOD sake start thinkn on ow make tins happn wt programmin. And dnt call web dev 2 easy. D future is web. So java wil die somday.

Go learn frm google java.net didnt use java to build there website. They used drupal, running on php nd apache. We r black ppl we just follow them nd learn junks to survive. Web programming is challengin as well. Ve u tried buildn a cms wt php? Try ruby? It goes on wt no end. Build what ppl need nd dnt rely on workin 4 any1 js. To make them Get richer. Php lives on!

Funny comments, Your question should have been "Can i see what you have developed?" and not what ur saying. You really dnt understand what you mean by "internet is the future". You should do more research.

By the way its "Zukerberg" not what you called him

Thanks 4 d correctn. I postd on mobile. Naija must grow!

Lets build naija open source community. Let's learn to give tins out. We r nt growin because we dnt give enuf stufs out. I hope im nt digressin frm d topic. Im only try to pass out a msg. I dnt wnt to b rude- pls. Pardn.

Yope cool,

Saying Java will Die is absolutely ignorant it powers almost everything around u can think of ps3,android(though c++ under the hood) and lots more.

Open source is good when most folks are are contributing. When you have less folks contributing and more folks copying, it kills open source. Unfortunately, MOST Nigerian developers are leechers so it can't work here. Guess its the harsh economy. Its just like seeders and leechers in torrent file downloading. When the leechers are more, download is slow. When seeders are more, download is fast.

Number_One is so correct the last time i tried doing open source someone wanted me to just finish it so he could pass it off as his without no intent of sharing code or developing together,usually programmers work in teams its in Nigeria where one developers does all aspect.

Yes Open Source is good, but its very painfull that Nigerians are more of consumer than producer check this url: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-485881.0.htm.
I wrote this code and posted it online with open source intent, but I was suprise some people use the software to generate number and were selling the generated number it came as a shocker to me that they tried to sell the number to me too. Instead of them on improving on the code or building something better all they could do is consume the code for financial gain.
How do we improve if we are being spoonfeed, I was working on an application a bulk sms business manager but I observed that it will be a great error to release it freely for public consumption. because they are going to feast on it and give me more problem than I demand for in terms of support at no gain from it. not even a credit to you, all you will see guys selling your software at computer village.


Sanjuma

I saw the phone Number generator app. Its cool. Since folks want to copy without giving the author any credit at all, my summary about the Nigerian market is:

1) You either develop for sale (register your product, copyright and all with a good lawyer at hand in case of infringement plus secure the product to the best of your ability) and get the FULL credit for it, or

2) Develop FREE and see it as your contribution to humanity. In this case, don't even expect a thank you. Though some folks may commend you. Not everyone in a butt-hole.

Thanks bro,
Thats what am doing now, No check no Code. call me wicked I don't care.

OP=Original Poster

Enjoying the discussion,

Hehehe cool , Am enjoying it!

Fayimora link=topic=648942.msg8245032#msg8245032:

Little about me:
I am a Computer Scientist based in the UK but I have done a lot of projects. I hate web development/design cause its too easy, No challenge in it.

Did you mean to say "I find web development easier"? The backend of a web app can be as complex as any desktop/hardware app. Probably more complex since you have to design the application for a large number of users - millions in the corporate world.  When and where did you get your degree from?

Fayimora link=topic=648942.msg8245032#msg8245032:

If you wanna see some of ma work then I would provide on request.

That would be nice, I know you would love to show us how good you are.

Fayimora link=topic=648942.msg8245032#msg8245032:

I love Java as a programming language as its very flexible and well object oriented. Perl is ma favourite scripting language.

what about c, c++, C# and objective-c?

Lolzz thats a beter way of saying it. Thanks for that, I find it too easy and boring. To be honest because of the fact that there is c++, I just developed a stupid hatred for c and c# so I don't use them. Up to a certain level I know c++. As for Objective-C, have developed 2 iphone apps(not alone though) using Objective-C. I only mentioned the languages I have gone really far with.

Like your username. Dats a very wonderful quality of a programmer

Fayimora:

Lolzz thats a beter way of saying it. Thanks for that, I find it too easy and boring.

I am a computer scientist thats how I could tell you are not, what are you studying?

Believe me web development is NOT easy, you focused on the former part of my statement not the latter.  You clearly have no “real world” experience, what runs on the backend of a web server? What are web browsers written in? What are web servers written in? Maybe you are confusing web design i.e html, css, xml, with web development. 

I can see where you get your misconceptions, sometimes the declarative nature of some web development languages like ASP.NET and php with its ever increasing number of libraries may give the illusion that things are simple.  But what about developing custom code whereby one has to develop adhoc libraries for security reasons or a complex code-behind n-tier project? What about when you are dealing with a web farm that requires interoperability?  For example you said you like Java, well have you programmed a website using JSP?

Fayimora:

To be honest because of the fact that there is c++,  I just developed a silly hatred for c and c# so I don't use them.

c++ is a superset of c and c# is a superset of Java, so why the silly hatred? 

Fayimora:

Up to a certain level I know c++.

oh so you are learning c++   

Fayimora:

As for Objective-C, have developed 2 iphone apps(not alone though) using Objective-C. I only mentioned the languages I have gone really far with.

nice, you have co-released 2 apps on the IOS platform, what are they called?  

Fayimora:

Lolzz thats a beter way of saying it. Thanks for that, I find it too easy and boring.

I am a computer scientist thats how I could tell you are not, what are you studying?

Believe me web development is NOT easy, you focused on the former part of my statement not the latter.  You clearly have no “real world” experience, what runs on the backend of a web server? What are web browsers written in? What are web servers written in? Maybe you are confusing web design i.e html, css, xml, with web development. 

I can see where you get your misconceptions from, sometimes the declarative nature of some web development languages like ASP.NET or php with its ever increasing number of libraries may give the illusion that things are simple.  But what about developing custom code whereby one has to develop adhoc libraries for security reasons or a complex code-behind n-tier project? What about when you are dealing with a web farm that requires interoperability?  For example you said you like Java, well have you programmed a website using JSP ands servlets?

Fayimora:

To be honest because of the fact that there is c++,  I just developed a silly hatred for c and c# so I don't use them.

c++ is a superset of c and c# is a superset of Java, so why the silly hatred? 

Fayimora:

Up to a certain level I know c++.

oh so you are learning c++   

Fayimora:

As for Objective-C, have developed 2 iphone apps(not alone though) using Objective-C. I only mentioned the languages I have gone really far with.

nice, you have co-released 2 apps on the IOS platform, what are they called?  

Writing codes is no big deal, I don't see why people are not willing to give others the code they need to help them with their programming. All the coding for C# and VB.Net  APIs are available for anyone to see.

Those coming here to say they will not give codes to others, should know that they have not created any programming language of their own and the coding they don't want to give to others has already been written by those who created the programming language.

If you feel you know how to write codes very well then you should go and develop your own programming language and then don't give codes to anyone trying to learn the language you have created and just tell them to use your pseudo code and algorithms.

csharpjava:

Writing codes is no big deal, I don't see why people are not willing to give others the code they need to help them with their programming. All the coding for C# and VB.Net  APIs are available for anyone to see.

Those coming here to say they will not give codes to others, should know that they have not created any programming language of their own and the coding they don't want to give to others has already been written by those who created the programming language.

If you feel you know how to write codes very well then you should go and develop your own programming language and then don't give codes to anyone trying to learn the language you have created and just tell them to use your pseudo code and algorithms.

Man, cant you see that you are the only one that doesn't even understand what am talking about? You are talking off point, Completely out of what I am talking about, Read my post and replies and make sure you understand what exactly am talking about.

Just a tip, am not saying hide codes, neither am i saying dont help nor just give pseudo-code/algorithms. If hasn't learnt a language then fine. That's TOTALLY different.

You always just go into ur own point of view which is never close to the subject.

Just read and understand what am talking about and don't just mis-quote what pple say. Also, why the indirect speeches?

Also, why the indirect speeches?

My post is to anyone that believes the best way to help others is through pseudo codes and algorithms, I find this to be putting the cart before the horse, the best approach for those learning to program is to see the coding first then pseudo code and algorithms after. 

What makes me come to this forum all the time is because I admire the way people help by providing codes for others.

What makes me come to this forum all the time is because I admire they way people help by providing codes for others.

So how many codes have you given out? (pls provide links to the codes so we can verify. Anyone can claim they have provided codes for others).
I hope you aren't one of 'em Leechers we are talking about.

Number_One

So how many codes have you given out? (pls provide links to the codes so we can verify. Anyone can claim they have provided codes for others).
I hope you aren't one of 'em Leechers we are talking about.

Create your own programming language and then tell those that want to learn your language to follow your psudo codes and algorithms. But for Java and all the orther languages you did not create it is not your duty to tell others how they should learn it.

People like you cannot make a bicycle spoke but you try to make it hard for people who want to learn how to ride a bicycle.

Below is the comment I got from someone I helped with thier GUI coding on this forum.

Oh wow man thank you!! soooooooooo much, you don't know how BIG this is for me THANKS!!

Dude, I'm NOT against anyone learning. I wasn't born with my knowledge, I was helped. So it's only right to help others. Like the OP said, you are MISSING THE POINT of the thread. Read the thread carefully before you respond.
Whats with this talk about creating a language?

P.S: Just like I thought, you didn't provide a hyperlink to the page where you posted your code. How can we verify it?

Number_One

P.S: Just like I thought, you didn't provide a hyperlink to the page where you posted your code. How can we verify it?

Here is the link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-634619.96.html

If someone has made the effort to write a piece of code and wants help with some coding then I don't see why we should not help provide the codes.

csharpjava:

Below is the comment I got from someone I helped with thier GUI coding on this forum.

The Person u helped :


Bout?
About what I'm about. . .even before he gave me the code I had built the gui on my own but still had to show appreciation because he took time off to do that for me. . .

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So, calm down bro, stop taking this thread to another dimension ? okay ? the Poster has hi POINTS and people that grabbed it already did. dnt get things complicated

segsalerty

I was asked to provide a link to show codes I have given out. At first I showed a comment I received for my codes but I was told that was not enough, see quotes below.

Number_One

So how many codes have you given out? (pls provide links to the codes so we can verify. Anyone can claim they have provided codes for others).
I hope you aren't one of 'em Leechers we are talking about.

Number_One

P.S: Just like I thought, you didn't provide a hyperlink to the page where you posted your code. How can we verify it?

Gee, that thread is just an extension of this one. Futile arguement.
Same posters et al. So the chic was helped with her assignment. Nice. So much for HALF BAKED graduates.
So, how about we help our students pass by giving them answers in the exam hall. That will be so cool cos everyone will pass and there will be NO failures. Right?
Hey, you'll probably get a NOBEL prize for your generousity.

Number_One

  So the chic was helped with her assignment. Nice. So much for HALF BAKED graduates.

Who do you blame, HALF BAKED graduates or HALF BAKED lectures?

You lack the exposure to what a computer science degree course should really be like, with the right lecturers and resources no one will come here asking for help.

You cannot teach someone programming with pseudo codes and algorithms without first showing them the codes, you guys like doing your things the opposite way so that people can worship you.