Studymore123:



I support your mission. Let's spread it to everyone that you can easily make money if you're a coder and working remotely. By extension that's applicable for some other fields. Let's spread this with the right motive.

That's a different goal for most that want to study medicine either in Nigeria or anywhere else. Most persons are not studding medicine for financial gains. Even if the the motive is financial Medicine is still better in the long term.

The truth is most of us study what is thrown at us. I don't know of anyone who studied their passion and doesn't have job satisfaction.

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Maybe in those days but today's Nigeria - the world's poverty capital. In the long run in a dysfunctional country that is getting poorer by the day and cannot pay salaries, practicing medicine without any financial support system is foolhardy.

Gerrard59:


What's my business with the United States? The aim of my post is comparing a coder/anyone with a skill which can be monetised online in the Nigeria to a medical doctor earning in the worthless naira in the same Nigeria

Again, a profilic coder who earns in dollars outearns his medical doctor counterpart while both are in Nigeria. My business isn't with doctors who relocate.

I have already stated above that a prolific doctor in Nigeria earns more than a prolific programmer earning in dollars.

Some doctors in Nigeria are owners of hospitals and some are top specialists in their various field, just 1 payment
from a single surgical operation is worth x4 than the amount a prolific coder will receive after a 2 month gig

Sorry sir, an upwork prolific nigerian coder earn per gigs and his job is not secured, he is like a contractor that can be sacked at any given time.

Is graduating from medicine at 28 too old?
Like...relatively.

Akintundexxy:
Is graduating from medicine at 28 too old?
Like...relatively.

No. Even if you graduated at 40, you will still get a job.

Karleb:


Bros, there is nothing like passion in this country o.

If hunger and insecurity knack you, that passion go disappear.

Meninmen:


Your mum can't be doing residency and be earning 200k, that's not true.

If your mum is truly a resident doctor, let's say a Junior resident, she will be on CONMESS 3 step 2. If you add her call duty allowance, it will be definitely more than 200k. If she is a senior resident, the pay is even higher.

While I understand your point, don't come here and give false information!

Bro what's up with you You won dey follow person argue about wetin in say in own mama dey collect again Ah ah!!! Some Nigerians ehn!!! Una can be wonderful o

lordally:


Bro what's up with you You won dey follow person argue about wetin in say in own mama dey collect again Ah ah!!! Some Nigerians ehn!!! Una can be wonderful o

Go and sleep if you don't have anything reasonable to say!

Alusiizizi:


Internet cafe?

I don't get you

motymop:


I have already stated above that a prolific doctor in Nigeria earns more than a prolific programmer earning in dollars.

Some doctors in Nigeria are owners of hospitals and some are top specialists in their various field, just 1 payment
from a single surgical operation is worth x4 than the amount a prolific coder will receive after a 2 month gig

Sorry sir, an upwork prolific nigerian coder earn per gigs and his job is not secured, he is like a contractor that can be sacked at any given time.

Upwork is only a step to get your foot in the door. If you are especially good(and particularly, if your technical/scientific skills go beyond coding) a universe very quickly opens up for you. Many of those jobs that you hustle for at upwork eventually yield long term clients with ever increasing(more valuable) demands, connections and opportunities to earn much more than you can hope for if limited to upwork alone, at the end of the day, its all a business. There's no way you can compare this to anything that's obtainable in Nigeria with worthless Naira, prolific or not.

MrJavaS:


I don't get you

Work from an internet cafe. With your laptop of course.

Alusiizizi:


Upwork is only a step to get your foot in the door. If you are especially good(and particularly, if your technical/scientific skills go beyond coding) a universe very quickly opens up for you. Many of those jobs that you hustle for at upwork eventually yield long term clients with ever increasing(more valuable) demands, connections and opportunities to earn much more than you can hope for if limited to upwork alone, at the end of the day, its all a business. There's no way you can compare this to anything that's obtainable in Nigeria with worthless Naira, prolific or not.

So how many Nigerian programmers get long time clients on upwork, realistically very few, infact there are lot of competition from India and eastern europe.

Lets be realistic, very few Nigerian programmers get a stable job on upwork or even earn a million a month on projects.

Now these exceptionally good programmers after they get the dollars, wont they convert it to naira?

motymop:


I have already stated above that a prolific doctor in Nigeria earns more than a prolific programmer earning in dollars.

Some doctors in Nigeria are owners of hospitals and some are top specialists in their various field, just 1 payment
from a single surgical operation is worth x4 than the amount a prolific coder will receive after a 2 month gig

Sorry sir, an upwork prolific nigerian coder earn per gigs and his job is not secured, he is like a contractor that can be sacked at any given time.

Only ignorant young ones will practice medicine in Nigeria. Only arrogant older ones will defend that stance.

Cc: Studymore123

motymop:


So how many Nigerian programmers get long time clients on upwork, realistically very few, infact there are lot of competition from India and eastern europe.

Lets be realistic, very few Nigerian programmers get a stable job on upwork or even earn a million a month on projects.

Now these exceptionally good programmers after they get the dollars, wont they convert it to naira?

This field (freelancing, frelance software development in particular) depends on your skill and abilities, no more, no less. No quota system, no guarantee of anything other than what your ability can afford. A developer that is not able to grow in this field will get nowhere. Growing requires you to push for those complex jobs that take weeks to complete and test your limits as a developer, problem solver and scientist. That is the nature of the business, and only those with the right qualities grow in it. Others simply burn out. I did mention earlier that only a small fraction of people have what it takes to become **market functional** programmers. This is what I meant by "market functional".

motymop:


So how many Nigerian programmers get long time clients on upwork, realistically very few, infact there are lot of competition from India and eastern europe.

Lets be realistic, very few Nigerian programmers get a stable job on upwork or even earn a million a month on projects.

Now these exceptionally good programmers after they get the dollars, wont they convert it to naira?

Also, if you are a good developer, you will have no trouble in competition with Indians, Chinese and such and you will definitely get those long term clients.

Gerrard59:


You seem to know more about his mom than her only son.

What will I not read on Nairaland?

I don't know more about his mum than he does, but I know more about his mom's profession and salary than he does.

I pray you understand the difference!

I have commented before but I want to do that again, there are more broke programmers than doctors, the IT field isn't going anywhere in Nigeria, it's mostly remote jobs that are available and unfortunately that is becoming heavily saturated and technology is improving everyday, as a so called programmer (I mean those that their a-z of programming is library usage) your specialty can become obsolete as quickly as possible while the ogas at the top (computer scientists) remain, but doctors are far more different, your knowledge hardly becomes obsolete. If you have the drive to be a doctor make sure that you at least bag first class or second class upper while planning on how to leave this country, don't drop your dream for nonsense, there are many broke programmers but we don't go about flashing our teeth. I am one of them unfortunately and I have turned to writing which hopefully by the ending of this month will start bringing in income, all that glitters ain't gold.

motymop:


So how many Nigerian programmers get long time clients on upwork, realistically very few, infact there are lot of competition from India and eastern europe.

Lets be realistic, very few Nigerian programmers get a stable job on upwork or even earn a million a month on projects.

Now these exceptionally good programmers after they get the dollars, wont they convert it to naira?

Bitter truth.

Alusiizizi:


Everyone cannot learn how to program. In fact(and I am using real statistics here and not just dreaming up numbers) only less than 1% of **university students** can become sufficiently skilled in programming to become market functional and they are highly sought, not only in Nigeria but also internationally. MBBS on the other hand is quite a bit more lenient to entrants, where it's really about the stamina to go through course work that matters. I do free-lance work internationally and all of my work involves programming, in addition to more technical stuff, and I see about $4000 every month(2million Naira). I'm a bit surprised to learn that MDs earn 300K though. I would have thought at least 1 million a month.

Now you know why doctors go on strike. Delayed pay on top meager salaries

Gerrard59:


Only ignorant young ones will practice medicine in Nigeria. Only arrogant older ones will defend that stance.

Cc: Studymore123

Sorry sir, but the money for the surgery goes into ancillary costs for the surgery mostly and not into the doctors pocket

Gerrard59:


Only ignorant young ones will practice medicine in Nigeria. Only arrogant older ones will defend that stance.

Cc: Studymore123

So you mean people studying and practicing medicine in Nigeria are fools.

You are typing like when they graduate you will give them visas to go work abroad.

Continue to deceive yourself.

tensazangetsu20:

Yes its going to take effect from next year. Salaries will now be up to the hospitals and they can decide what to pay. So expect 15 to 50k salaries for housemanships. CMDs are very corrupt.

This is never going to happen, unless Nigeria wants to further reduce the quality of her medical personnel. Most of those hospitals don't employ new hands often and they rely hugely on those house officers to do a lot of work. If the incentive is removed, those young doctors wouldn't give in their best in the house jobs. In fact, many of them will not even be showing up for work! The consequence is that quality of healthcare professionals will decline and hospitals will be on so much pressure to employ new professionals. The FG has been informed about these consequences and they're reviewing the proposal.

Those that made that suggestion in the first place didn't think well!

Jman06:
This is never going to happen, unless Nigeria wants to further reduce the quality of her medical personnel. Most of those hospitals don't employ new hands often and they rely hugely on those house officers to do a lot of work. If the incentive is removed, those young doctors wouldn't give in their best in the house jobs. In fact, many of them will not even be showing up for work! The consequence is that quality of healthcare professionals will decline and hospitals will be on so much pressure to employ new professionals. The FG has been informed about these consequences and they're reviewing the proposal.

Those that made that suggestion in the first place didn't think well!

Dey there. My mom is even one of the lucky ones. Her colleagues in other states are owed salaries for months to years. Medicine is horrible in Naija o.

SegFault:
I have commented before but I want to do that again, there are more broke programmers than doctors, the IT field isn't going anywhere in Nigeria, it's mostly remote jobs that are available and unfortunately that is becoming heavily saturated and technology is improving everyday, as a so called programmer (I mean those that their a-z of programming is library usage) your specialty can become obsolete as quickly as possible while the ogas at the top (computer scientists) remain, but doctors are far more different, your knowledge hardly becomes obsolete. If you have the drive to be a doctor make sure that you at least bag first class or second class upper while planning on how to leave this country, don't drop your dream for nonsense, there are many broke programmers but we don't go about flashing our teeth. I am one of them unfortunately and I have turned to writing which hopefully by the ending of this month will start bringing in income, all that glitters ain't gold.

There's no first class or second class in medicine. It's distinction and pass and only like 0.1 percent of doctors have distinction. Even at that it means nothing honestly. To get housemanship you need connections, to get residency you need connections. All this with very low dehumanising pay. Even to leave this country costs so much money. OET alone is over 200k. IELTS is 85k. People write it 6 7 times to get required marks then there's plab one and plab two alongside the hurdles of visa application. A doctor was just rejected from going to the UK because the embassy couldn't believe he hasn't been paid for 5 months. UI hasn't paid doctors for five months including of residents.

lordally:


Bro what's up with you You won dey follow person argue about wetin in say in own mama dey collect again Ah ah!!! Some Nigerians ehn!!! Una can be wonderful o

Because it doesn't make any sense. No senior register can be on a payroll less than 300k.
If I tell you a professor earns less than 200k, would you believe that even if the professor is my mom. Simple arithmetic.
His Mom isn't a doctor or she's paid about less than 70% of her salary

tensazangetsu20:

There's no first class or second class in medicine. It's distinction and pass and only like 0.1 percent of doctors have distinction. Even at that it means nothing honestly. To get housemanship you need connections, to get residency you need connections. All this with very low dehumanising pay. Even to leave this country costs so much money. OET alone is over 200k. IELTS is 85k. People write it 6 7 times to get required marks then there's plab one and plab two alongside the hurdles of visa application. A doctor was just rejected from going to the UK because the embassy couldn't believe he hasn't been paid for 5 months. UI hasn't paid doctors for five months including of residents.

Anyone needs OET tutorials....I am available experience hands on tutor

OET is the easier but more expensive alternative to IELTS....very much worth it. Reach out to me for experienced hands on tutor and ace it

Studymore123:


Many of these comparisons doesn't make sense. Many of the coders on this platform are unnecessarily loud, I think it’s the excitement that they earn foreign currency. Many people in Nigeria have been making millions for years but now it seems as if coding is the only profession in the to make it big.
Anywhere in the world Doctors generally earns far more than coders.
Nigeria coders makes so much noise because of currency conversion. You're paid 1k or 2k working remotely and that translates to about 500k/1M monthly. In the US that's peanuts but in Nigeria that's some money.
While I encourage anyone who is able to leverage such opportunities but please let's try to avoid senseless comparisons.
Whether you read Medicine, Arts, Science, Social Science or Humanities you can leverage your skills by using remote jobs to earn better than your peers earning locally. A friend read Fine Arts and earns about 4k monthly, English 2k monthly, Math’s 2k monthly, Graphics design 3k monthly, Sociology 2k monthly.
The technology for Doctors to work remotely is not widespread and I don't know if it's in Nigeria. Technologies like Hyperreal holograms, 3D operating rooms, MS Hololens, and Corning's specialty glass are becoming widespread and Covid-19 has caused a surge in telemedicine. In the next few years Doctors living in Nigeria and working remotely will be a norm.
I appreciate coders for their relentless activities and extending the functionalities of technology. While coders can reveal in the moment please avoid unnecessary comparisons.

You are correct about coders being loud and all, this remote work doesn't even excite me, we are leveraging on the fact that the value of our currency is so bad. So i don't see it as a plus because a lot of local companies are stuck with 200k salaries and now they are complaining because they cannot match the pay of foreign tech since their profit is in Naira.

Coding isn't the only profession to make it big, we also need other professions to thrive as well. Being a Doctor should earn you good money anytime, any day.

Some of these people don't tell you the crazy areas about tech or this remote jobs, some of this companies have most terrifying culture. A company like CrossOver for example that monitor your activities, takes your screenshots etc. You have no privacy whatsoever, subject you to crazy inhumane treatments because of dollars.

The interview process in tech is also really nothing to write home about, completely shitty interview process that can take you 7 to 8 rounds of technical + behavioural interviews. At least i have done 7 rounds before and still didn't get the job.

Also if you lose your remote job in tech, you are in panic mode because it may take you months to even smell another remote job.

Fadafada231:
Forget, medicine is just hype. Afa na onu, nnukwu afa onweghi Ife di ebe ahu. Ego adiroya. Technology have taking place. In next 10years don't be surprised to see machine and other technology doing the work of Doctors

medsurg is not a linear job and can never be substituted with machines and robots. They only enhance or augment clinical work, surgical process, data and diagnosis. Do u hate human doctors?
medical field has one of 3 highest job securities.