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Lies, We Have Been Lied To by Femiwilli: 2:38pm On Aug 07, 2021
We have been told that Jesus never died and we all believed it

Yet here are a list of historians & writers who during the time of Jesus actually wrote that Jesus died

This means that Jesus did die & rose again from the grave

No true prophet of God can deny this truth

This explains why turkey has Christian roots


What other lie do you believe and have you considered the fact u may believe the lie that Jesus never died?

Listen to many people who noted that Jesus died


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41Tm5FDKns

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Re: Lies, We Have Been Lied To by AntiChristian: 3:32pm On Aug 07, 2021
Yeah, that why majority of Israelites believed in Jesus today.

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Re: Lies, We Have Been Lied To by Femiwilli: 6:10pm On Aug 07, 2021
AntiChristian:
Yeah, that why majority of Israelites believed in Jesus today.

They were lied to just like u muslims have been lied too

Matthew 28
11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.
Re: Lies, We Have Been Lied To by 2dominate: 8:14pm On Aug 07, 2021
Femiwilli:
We have been told that Jesus never died and we all believed it

Yet here are a list of historians & writers who during the time of Jesus actually wrote that Jesus died

This means that Jesus did die & rose again from the grave

No true prophet of God can deny this truth

This explains why turkey has Christian roots


What other lie do you believe and have you considered the fact u may believe the lie that Jesus never died?

Listen to many people who noted that Jesus died


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41Tm5FDKns
Jesus died but not on the cross.
Re: Lies, We Have Been Lied To by AntiChristian: 7:03am On Aug 08, 2021
Femiwilli:


They were lied to just like u muslims have been lied too

Matthew 28
11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.


Guy! I'm not dumb. When Jesus' was allegedly about to die, many big signs happened.

If this truly happened Israel would have believed as none can cover truth with falsehood.

Mind you, we weren't lie to in any way!
Re: Lies, We Have Been Lied To by haekymbahd(m): 9:45am On Aug 08, 2021
Femiwilli:


They were lied to just like u muslims have been lied too

Matthew 28
11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

According to your bible
Note: At the time of crucifiction there were two Jesus {Jesus Barabbas (son of the father) and Jesus Christ}. Barabbas means son of the father one of them was set free while the other was crucified.

The earliest canonical gospel which is gospel of Mark in stopped at Chapter 16 verse 8 in the earliest manuscript found and it didn't give account for the resurrection of Christ. But it was later inserted by scribes as fabrication after the author mark must have been dead and after other Gospel books were written . Let me show you dates in which the first cannonical and others were written. The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66–70, Matthew and Luke around AD 85–90, and John AD 90–110.


Question for you: Is Jesus the son of the father or Jesus christ



Mathew 27
20 But the chief priests and the elders prevailed on the people to ask for Jesus Barabbas, and put Jesus to death.

21 Again the governor said to them, Which of the two do you wish me to release for you? And they said, Jesus Barabbas!

22 Pilate said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus Who is called Christ?

23 They all replied, Let Him be crucified! And he said, Why? What has He done that is evil? But they shouted all the louder, Let Him be crucified!

26 So he set free for them Jesus Barabbas; and he [had] Jesus whipped, and delivered Him up to be crucified.



Allah SWT said:

"And [for] their saying, Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 157)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


Mind you before this event occured Jesus had prayed over it.

Mark 14
35 And going a little farther, He fell on the ground and kept praying that if it were possible the [[e]fatal] hour might pass from Him.

36 And He was saying, Abba, [which means] Father, everything is possible for You. Take away this cup from Me; yet not what I will, but what You [will].



Even Apostle Paul didn't witness crucifiction he was not even one of Jesus disciples while alive so everything is all hearsay. Or can you tell me the eyewitnesses authors of the cannonical Gospels copied from. Which of those Historians and writers were eye witnesses. Mind you Jesus was an isrealite and was alledgly said to be crucified in Rome how did they know the true Jesus when Judas had to kiss him to identify him before they even captured him and kept record of it when he didn't even offend them it was the isrealites that had issues with him.


Now you might want to ask of how possible can another be made to resemble Jesus even his disciples didn't recognize him when he appeared to them tell me how will the Romans even identify him


This occured after he was alledgly said to be crucified

Luke 24
15And while they were conversing and discussing together, Jesus Himself caught up with them and was already accompanying them.

16But their eyes were held, so that they did not recognize Him.

17And He said to them, What is this discussion that you are exchanging ([f]throwing back and forth) between yourselves as you walk along? And they stood still, looking sad and downcast.

18Then one of them, named Cleopas, answered Him, Do you alone dwell as a stranger in Jerusalem and not know the things that have occurred there in these days?

19And He said to them, What [kind of ] things? And they said to Him, About Jesus of Nazareth, Who was a Prophet mighty in work and word before God and all the people--

20And how our chief priests and rulers gave Him up to be sentenced to death, and crucified Him.

21But we were hoping that it was He Who would redeem and set Israel free. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things occurred.

22And moreover, some women of our company astounded us and [g]drove us out of our senses. They were at the tomb early [in the morning]

23But did not find His body; and they returned saying that they had [even] seen a vision of angels, who said that He was alive!

24So some of those [who were] with us went to the tomb and they found it just as the women had said, but Him they did not see.

25And [Jesus] said to them, O foolish ones [sluggish in mind, dull of perception] and slow of heart to believe (adhere to and trust in and rely on) everything that the prophets have spoken!

30And it occurred that as He reclined at table with them, He took [a loaf of] bread and praised [God] and gave thanks and asked a blessing, and then broke it and was giving it to them

31When their eyes were [instantly] opened and they [clearly] recognized Him, and He vanished ([i]departed invisibly).

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