MightySparrow:
Muhammad Is a messenger only to the Arabs. He is the only prophet outside Jewish race. He brought confusion rather than Message.
Taliban, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram are clear messages of Allah and Muhammad.

MaxInDHouse:


The concluding statement is somehow dicey but if that's how you feel like seeing the matter it's OK. But that's not the truth!

The world is going to an end, Satan and his demons are everywhere trying to make all humans destroy one another, they have lost in the battle to keep everyone in the dark, so as the light of God's word is getting brighter and Jesus' disciples are shining brightly throughout the earth Satan is becoming sadder everyday.

So they want to fight against God but the only way they can do such is by making God's word invalid. God's word said some humans will survive Satan's final attack on humanity {Revelations 7:14} but Satan and his demons are spitefully anticipating total annihilation!

Politics has been the root cause of the problem humans have right after the incident in the garden of Eden. God promised that no matter how Satan try He (God) will always have some people who will be loyal to God {Job 1:8} God arranged for a nation through Abraham's lineage but Satan succeeded in making that nation a mess {Matthew 23:37-38} so after Jesus' ultimate sacrifice God released His Holy Spirit and a GROUP of people who will later become millions across the globe practicing pure worship under God's sovereignty sufficed, instantly Satan and his demons went into action to annihilate all the pioneers of this GROUP {Revelations 12:17} after which Satan quickly initiated a counterfeit GROUP to deceive the world and will serve Satan's purpose, that religion is globally known today as the "Roman Catholic Church" unlike Jesus' true disciples who goes about peacefully preaching and teaching people from house to house and door to door the Catholics were forcing their religion on people everywhere they go. This went on until the birth of Muhammad in Mecca. Muhammad wanted to make himself a prophet just to enjoy himself but attacks kept coming from all sides including the Roman Catholic Church who taught Muhammad the little he knew about God. That was how both religions began struggling for the world's domination under Satan's blindfold (Politics)
Today the Catholic Church and her children Protestants have successfully held the power for centuries {Revelations 17:5} but the Arabs whose ancestors produced the first four world powers wanted the power back. That's why they are fighting Catholic and her Protestant children to recover what they thought rightfully belongs to them.
That's what is happening in the world today.
However Satan and his demons are the unseen forces behind all these {Ephesians 6:12} that's why Jesus commaded us never to lead by force or use of weapons! Matthew 26:52
Throughout the earth today the one and only GROUP who are aware of all these sacred secrets is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization that's why Satan and his human agents keep criticizing us {2Corinthians 4:4} because we are not deceived by Satan's cobwebs! 2Corinthians 2:11
So as i said earlier people will continue to kill people and Satan will give you a thousand and one reason why you must pick up weapons to kill your fellowman, only Jehovah's Witnesses have been trained never to lift up weapons against anyone no matter what happens! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:

Muhammad wanted to make himself a prophet just to enjoy himself but attacks kept coming from all sides including the Roman Catholic Church who taught Muhammad the little he knew about God. That was how both religions began struggling for the world's domination under Satan's blindfold (Politics)

haekymbahdx:
Am I right if I say this

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

En arkhêi ên ho lógos, kaì ho lógos ên pròs tòn theón, kaì theòs ên ho lógos

In the beginning existed the Word, and the Word existed with the God, and a God was the Word.



Note: there is difference between the God and or a god (a God)

ton theon - The God (definite) NOUN

Kai theos.- and God (indefinite) ADJECTIVE

The meaning of the Greek article
The meaning of the Greek article is slightly different, which can make it difficult for English speakers to grasp.

"The primary function of the [Greek] article is not to make a word definite.

When the article is present, it is emphasizing identity

When the article is not present, it is generally emphasizing the quality of the substantive."

-Mounce, BBG, p. 334

haekymbahdx:
You think being a prophet is a child's play. Even Jesus in his home town was rejected and killed according to christians even though he told some of the things they already knew. Imagine Muhammad in place where majority were idol worshippers. THE WHOLE WORLD WAS BASICALLY AGAINST ONE MAN. Not even Christians and Jews supported him.

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever makes Muhammad a prophet should equally makes Buddha, Plato, Socrates, Guru Maharaj, Ṣàngó and all other warriors prophets as well!

nencounter10:



Sorry, I don't have time for debates. I just state the truth and move on.

Theon and Theos are different forms of the noun Theo. Just as have, had and has are different form of the verb 'to have' in English language.Consult a Greek Grammer book for more info.

As for the other thing you wrote consult the thread below for more info.

https://www.nairaland.com/6691292/lets-talk-gods

haekymbahdx:

Sure I know there is a God behind it who only say to it "be and it will be" and that is Allah. My message was do Catholics knew that earth and heaven were Joined entity before they separated don't get me wrong.

Okay I didn't know that Buddha, Plato, Socrates, Guru Maharani, Sango are seed of Abraham.

Genesis
12 And God said unto Abraham: 'Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah saith unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall seed be called to thee.

13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.'


Now I ask you please answer me which nation did God made out of Ishmael or was that a failed declaration by your God

Isaiah 29
10 For the Lord has poured out on you the spirit of deep sleep. And He has closed your eyes, the prophets; and your heads, the seers, He has covered and muffled.

11 And the vision of all this has become for you like the words of a book that is sealed. When men give it to one who can read, saying, Read this, I pray you, he says, I cannot, for it is sealed.

12 And when the book is given to him who is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray you, he says, I cannot read.

13 And the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips but remove their hearts and minds far from Me, and their fear and reverence for Me are a commandment of men that is learned by repetition [without any thought as to the meaning],

14 Therefore, behold! I will again do marvelous things with this people, marvelous and astonishing things; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discerning men will vanish or be hidden.

Allah SWT said:

"Recite in the name of your Lord who created -"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 1)

"Created man from a clinging substance."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 2)

"Taught man that which he knew not."
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 5)

"No! [But] indeed, man transgresses"
(QS. Al-Alaq 96: Verse 6)

Who is this talking about Max


Is Charles Taze Russell the founder of Jehovah witness a seed of Abraham.

MaxInDHouse:

No you don't know because if you do you will never speak of Big Bang when talking about a Creator who is the sole architect!

MaxInDHouse:


Neither is Muhammad because Abraham had eight sons but God specifically said he covenant will be established with Isaac even when Abraham spoke of Ishmael! Genesis 17:18-21
So all other seven sons of Abraham has been ruled out of the promised seed!

MaxInDHouse:


God promised Abraham that Ishmael will survive but at the same time God never promised any Covenant with Ishmael rather what God's angel said about Ishmael is that the child and all his generations will become terrorists! Genesis 16:11-12

haekymbahdx:
Allah SWT said:

"Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 117)

"Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?"
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 30)

Allah has said how he created the heavens and earth and it has been proved by scientists. Show me from Bible how Jehovah created heavens and earth alone.

MaxInDHouse:


God's word never mentioned anything about Ishmael having to do with salvation of mankind so any prophecy found in the scriptures is about the lineage of Jacob! John 4:22

MaxInDHouse:


God's word never mentioned anything about Ishmael having to do with salvation of mankind so any prophecy found in the scriptures is about the lineage of Jacob! John 4:22

MaxInDHouse:


When talking about Creation what exactly did Allah say that sound as if it's the Creator that's talking?
Well let's scrutinize what both Gods said regarding CREATION?

JEHOVAH said he first created one spirit creature who worked with Him during those creative days {Proverbs 8:22-30} so when He said let us make man in our own image Jehovah was talking to His only begotten Son! Genesis 1:26

But that will only lead to endless arguments of no benefits. Let's talk about Creation itself.
Each person will ask rhetoric questions about on what his own God said about Creation then we'll both verify how true it is. Are you ready for?

haekymbahdx:
At least you will agree that apart from Isaac of all Abraham's seed only Ishmael did Allah said he will make a great nation.
Genesis
18 Arise, raise up the youth and support him with your hand, for I intend to make him a great nation.
Note the word Great nation that means it will be known
You can prove me wrong by posting a verse where Allah said this to other sons of Abraham

haekymbahdx:
Question: Who created heavens and earth. Give me the name of the person simple

MaxInDHouse:


You're making it funny because i already told you that Abraham felt concerned for his first born son that's why God assured him that Ishmael will survive. There are six other sons of Abraham after the death of Satan (Abraham's legitimate wife) Abraham never asked any question about them because they grew up in his environ unlike Ishmael whom he has to send away with the mother!

So it's logical and reasonable that God promised the patriarch of the safety and survival of Abraham's first son!

MaxInDHouse:

God promised Abraham that Ishmael will survive but at the same time God never promised any Covenant with Ishmael rather what God's angel said about Ishmael is that the child and all his generations will become terrorists! Genesis 16:11-12

haekymbahdx:


THE WHOLE WORLD WAS BASICALLY AGAINST ONE MAN

haekymbahdx:
Which of the other sons did God say he will make a Great nation.
Where are the ishmelites has his generation the Great nation gone into extinction.. Are isrealites a Great nation where are the Great nation of ishmelites...

Where are the terrorists you talked about did Ishmael became a terrorist....

MaxInDHouse:

Guy been a great nation has nothing to do with God's Covenant. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, England, America, Russia, Germany and many more were greater nations a hundred times than Israel so which of them is the lineage of Ismael?



That's what the angel said in that book so God never promised salvation through Ishmael the angel said Ishmael will become a trouble maker:

And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. KJV


Jehovah’s angel added: “Here you are pregnant, and you will give birth to a son, and you must name him Ishʹma·el, for Jehovah has heard your affliction. He will be a wild donkey of a man. His hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand will be against him, and he will dwell opposite all his brothers. NWT

You can search for another Bible translation of Genesis 16:11-12, i just gave you the two i have on my mobile device.

So whatever Ishmael will become in life trouble making is the trademark says the angel of God. There was nothing like covenant of prophet coming from that lineage!

haekymbahdx:

Well whatever you say I don't care if Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, England, America, Russia, Germany and many were greater than ishmelites so which of them did God say he will make a great nation and gibmve proof. What matters is Ishmael is the only son of Abraham that God said he would make a great nation did he talk about others stop jumping bro ... Are the united states not a bigger nation than isreal infact all the nations above are greater than isreal so what logic is in what you are saying

Infact are they greater that ishmelites do you know the populations of Muslims in the world. Islam has basically spread to almost all countries get that.

Genesis 16
10 Also the Angel of the Lord said to her, I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be numbered for multitude.

MaxInDHouse:


Exactly the same thing was said about Israel but they never ruled the world once so don't let politicians use you as a scapegoat.
Islam will never rule the world, in fact America is using diplomacy to sabotage the politicians using Islam by introducing DEMOCRACY.
Under this system of government alcoholics, lesbians, gays, feminists, transgenders, atheists and many more will have a say in the political affairs of their country. That's why islamized nations are having problems because they will first have issues with their own people who have chosen to live their lives in a way totally contradicting Islam. So Islam is bound to fail!

haekymbahdx:

Which prophet like Moses came after Jesus if not Muhammad.

haekymbahdx:
Who is talking about Ruling the world. We are talking about the true God creator of Heavens and earth ALLAH

AntiChristian:


Alright, Jesus has a God.

How can Theon be the God of a Theos?

No need for you to answer!

MaxInDHouse:


You've jumped all the protocol my friend!

Moses was speaking to the Israelites here and this people only view fellow Israelites as their brothers!
But let's assume Moses was speaking about the extended descendants of Abraham, don't forget that the descendants of Esau (Edomites) will be the first because it was Esau and Jacob that were born to Isaac.
And if we're to extend the invitation to Abraham's descendants then apart from Isaac Abraham still have seven other sons including Ishmael! Genesis 25:1

MaxInDHouse:


Allah is what Muhammad called his God that has nothing to do with the God of Israel!

haekymbahdx:

The prophet didn't come until after Christ because the children of isreal were expecting 3 personalities of which the prophet was among. Unfortunately isreal was cursed so I ask which prophet came after Jesus...
Would the prophet had even been sent to isreal after it had been cursed.
The onus is on you to tell us the prophet that came to isreal after Jesus or the prophet didn't come.

MaxInDHouse:


There's no Bible verse that says a prophet will come after Jesus, don't forget that i was once a Muslim too and i know where you're driving at but i'll not act presumptuously. Please PRESENT the Bible verse that says another prophet will rise after Moses.
The one i know is found @ Deuteronomy 18:15-19
If that's the verse then let's break it down but if not please quote that verse in the 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses of the book called "Bible"

haekymbahdx:
Allah is what Abraham called his God too. Allah is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob unless you want to say there are more than one God Almighty
Exodus 6
3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by My [a]name the Lord I did not make Myself known to them [in acts and great miracles].(A)

haekymbahdx:
Neither did any verse say a prophet will come before Jesus

This is not about breaking down at the time of Jesus no prophet had come to isreal then isreal was cursed till then no prophet came not until Muhammad.

Would a prophet come to isreal after it had been cursed.

MaxInDHouse:


This is where you goofed greatly!
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a Hebrew name "JEHOVAH" or "YAHWEH"
So Allah has nothing to do with that, in fact all the nations of the earth knew the name of the Israelite God therefore if Muhammad wants to claim he has anything to do with that God he must learn from the Jews! John 4:22