justwise:


I'm British so zip it

Gemma11:


So what exactly are you defending here?

justwise:


Nigerians are double charged and they are not entitled to public fund while British citizens use NHS even if they don't pay a penny,

A lot of British citizens rather sit on their lazy backsides and claim benefit rather than take those jobs Nigerians students do.

Nigerians student visa holders pay for everything till they get resident paper.

British govt charger those Nigerians even for sending emails or calls to find out about their visa application.

So stop this Nigerians are taking this and that because you got no clue what they go through to survive here.

Gemma11:


Stop defending nonsense.
The issue here is that Nigerians are taking advantage of the student visa route and bringing everybody in their family. The Student visa was not designed for that.

There is a housing crisis because student accomodation is supposed to house single people and not whole families. Most Nigerians coming in can not afford to pay for housing which is suitable for whole families that is the main issue.

Women are coming in heavily pregnant and giving birth for free on the NHS...can they try that one in America?

3-4 New immigrant children are being placed in schools and British born children who have parents who have paid taxes for years have to stay home.

As I said, The student visa was not designed for families but now the government is aware that Nigerians are taking the piss they will put a stop to it.

Uzomarrr12345:

That the mentality many Nigerians have .. lol … they feel entitled because they’ve paid so much money on acquiring MSc in UK .

There’s a reason why it called “Skilled worker”

There’s a reason why many Indians you see in UK/US tech industries are on work visa direct !

If you know you are skilled enough with enough professional certifications and you are outstanding at whatever you do ..Go for it .

But if you feel that just because you paid £14,000 to study MSc in food & nutrition in one low ranking university owned by one pakistan man… ;lol…therefore the UK should give you a job and let you bring your family

My brother , you are on a long thing , your visa might even expire before your convocation self

Gemma11:


Out of compatriotism you guys should stay in your land o...UK is not a bed of roses and life is a lot harder than in Nigeria.

justwise:


Nigerians against snobs like you

iboboyswag:


Again Honourable Gateman of the British Empire.

We like the hard UK life.

It is clear that you are triggered. Triggered at the prospects of these migrants taking odd jobs, building their lives slowly then taking your high perched jobs. The same job from which you derive your sense of achievement and accomplishment.

You see the depth of experience the migrants bring into the country and like it has and would always be (as it happened for your folks), their breakthroughs are only a question of time.

These thoughts trigger you, they threaten your confidence. But don't worry too much, I'd pray you find peace.

Always remember, the sky is large enough for all birds to soar. May the good Lord hill you.

Chinlov:
Gemma's Parents certainly are true Nigerians just as we all are. they saw an opportunity and took it and abused the system (as he said) otherwise they should have only worked for a while and if they get pregnant, go back to Nigeria to give birth to him so that they would be patriotic Nigerians (as he recommends).

#BELIKE GEMMA'SPARENTS

dubaiprince:


From the bottom of my heart, God bless you for this especially the last paragraph.

The truth is most British citizens who are not immigrants don't know what migrants go through. They just think they see a migrant on the street and he/she is fleecing them. I got an offer with another firm willing to pay immigration cost for myself and 2 of my dependants, a director with my current employer not wanting me to leave just asked how much the visa and ihs costs is, when i told him it is something in the region on 10k, i saw the shock on his face and he simply said as a family man himself, he would advice me to take the offer (I am a tier 2 visa holder with 4 dependants). Not that my my kids have fallen ill since they came into the UK to need NHS infact they had all immunizations back home compulsory and optional before coming in.

Myself and Wife pay NI and Tax plus the 10k they collected and we were already planning to cough out another 10k next year for visa extension if not for this offer that came through.

The UK govt should use the money they get from migrants judiciously by expanding their social infrastructure to cope with the increasing population. You don't collect money from people and not make adequate provision for them. Nigerian migrants are not their problem.

HollyMadison:


I’m using the chair, in pink, it’s really good and I had horrible back pain from being a banker for years. I’m also fully remote

Chreze:
See as una just scatter everywhere. Something wey I been don read finish, now I just read 4 pages about Nigerian and India. Comparison that will never end, even when there is no need to compare.

Una do well.

Gemma11:


Yeah her focus should be on Nigerians because they are abusing the system.

Students are normally single people

Students consisting of a grown man/wife & partner with 3- 5 kids is not normal and taxing on the system. Yes they are paying for healthcare but are they also paying for school places, books, pens, free food and all the other amenities that these children use? It is something when British Born children can't find a place in school because a new Nigerian immigrant child has taken their place.

There are more Indians and Chinese coming in as students than Nigerians but these are genuine students coming alone to study. It is the Nigerians who are packing whole families here.

Suella will be back. She probably only resigned so that she could do so before the PM.

Chreze:


Thanks. I will proceed to order before e finish.

Chreze:


If I tell you say I have been on this site since two days trying to cover pages I missed you no go believe. If you no read am you go just de feel say them don talk something wey de important to you and your family.

Gemma11:


Out of compatriotism you guys should stay in your land o...UK is not a bed of roses and life is a lot harder than in Nigeria.

HondaLover:

The comparism has been going on for a couple of days or weeks now.......
The sad part is it ends up getting abusive and messy.

I think we all can pass across our messages or opinions without being abusive.

The togetherness of this group is dwindling.

If it's not a drama on Student visa today, it's a drama on shite pay or something.

Make una rest ó.

By the way, edakun me I'm lazy to read jàre (the political architecture of this country is kinda clumsy to me, I know the labour and Conservatives are like a party system yeah? If a party is still in Government they have the right to unseat a sitting PM yeah? Which was elected at more or less a primary election eg
(RS vs LT[b][/b]). Edakun ẹ ṣàlàyé o).


CC @Semmyk
CC @Lexusgs430

Gemma11:


So what exactly are you defending here?

Gemma11:


You didn't make any sense...most importantly you didn;t even understand what I wrote because where did I say that they were flooding student accomodation?

Student accomodation is readily available..the issue is, such accomodation is not meant to house families..what part of that don't you understand?

In the meantime Nigerians are complaining that they can't find accommodation but that is because they either can't afford it or do not have UK credit records or a guarantor.

Again the sense of entitlement is astounding.

Crying more than the bereaved? I have been paying taxes here for how many years and I have every right to have an opinion on how they are used.

The UK will soon stop this nonsense sha. Nigerians should stay where they are and fix their country instead of running over here to complain and over use resources.

Josh121:


Oh can you tell us your story on how you got here and start paying tax, let me guess you also came as a student . Bad belle

Zahra29:
I see where Gemma is coming from in some ways.

The majority of Nigerian immigrants might be hardworking and resourceful, however Nigeria does have a bad reputation for a reason because there is a fair number of people who look for ways to fleece the system, thereby making it a lot harder for genuine people.

All the POF scams for example. Applicants using chicanery to show that they have the required funds even though they know that they lack sufficient means to sustain them and their dependents.

There have been numerous posts where people have to be "convinced" that they do not qualify for 30hrs nursery funding or other grants/benefits as they count as public funds. To British citizens/residents who pay taxes and do not even claim these benefits, it can be very annoying to hear or see immigrants who have not yet contributed to the system (and students who do not pay tax) trying to claim these benefits. It can also make them wonder what benefits these people would go on to claim as soon as they have obtained citizenship. This is what easily stokes resentment in Brits - feeling like they're being taken for a mug

Also, the complaints. No country is perfect. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it can be quite grating hearing migrants complaining about the NHS and other aspects of British life. The obvious response would be "why don't you go back then, if it's so wonderful where you're from!"

Gemma11:


Not every black Nigerian person 'came' to the UK. Some of us are born and raised in this land. My parents were paying Uk taxes long before I was born here in London. I am now also paying my own share....na you get bad belle..lol

Anyway the reason why I contributed to this thread was just to help genuine students and Nigerian immigrants answer questions about life in the UK not those who want to play ojoro to fleece the system.

Gemma11:


Unlike you I am not after a job..lol..I don pass the level of 'job'. I have long established myself as a landlady with multiple with mortgage free properties and as a successful invester in the UK to the point where I can sit back and enjoy my passive income.

My daily activities include advising new immigrants on how to naviagate the system, UK way of life and other philantrophic/charity work.

As I said I am simply here to offer advice to genuine Nigerian immigrants on life in the UK and will continue to call out the those who continue to abuse the system. like it or lump it.

Zahra29:
I see where Gemma is coming from in some ways.

The majority of Nigerian immigrants might be hardworking and resourceful, however Nigeria does have a bad reputation for a reason because there is a fair number of people who look for ways to fleece the system, thereby making it a lot harder for genuine people.

All the POF scams for example. Applicants using chicanery to show that they have the required funds even though they know that they lack sufficient means to sustain them and their dependents.

There have been numerous posts where people have to be "convinced" that they do not qualify for 30hrs nursery funding or other grants/benefits as they count as public funds. To British citizens/residents who pay taxes and do not even claim these benefits, it can be very annoying to hear or see immigrants who have not yet contributed to the system (and students who do not pay tax) trying to claim these benefits. It can also make them wonder what benefits these people would go on to claim as soon as they have obtained citizenship. This is what easily stokes resentment in Brits - feeling like they're being taken for a mug

Also, the complaints. No country is perfect. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it can be quite grating hearing migrants complaining about the NHS and other aspects of British life. The obvious response would be "why don't you go back then, if it's so wonderful where you're from!"

Zahra29:
I see where Gemma is coming from in some ways.

The majority of Nigerian immigrants might be hardworking and resourceful, however Nigeria does have a bad reputation for a reason because there is a fair number of people who look for ways to fleece the system, thereby making it a lot harder for genuine people.

All the POF scams for example. Applicants using chicanery to show that they have the required funds even though they know that they lack sufficient means to sustain them and their dependents.

There have been numerous posts where people have to be "convinced" that they do not qualify for 30hrs nursery funding or other grants/benefits as they count as public funds. To British citizens/residents who pay taxes and do not even claim these benefits, it can be very annoying to hear or see immigrants who have not yet contributed to the system (and students who do not pay tax) trying to claim these benefits. It can also make them wonder what benefits these people would go on to claim as soon as they have obtained citizenship. This is what easily stokes resentment in Brits - feeling like they're being taken for a mug

Also, the complaints. No country is perfect. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it can be quite grating hearing [b]migrants complaining about the NHS and other aspects of British life. [/b]The obvious response would be "why don't you go back then, if it's so wonderful where you're from!"

justwise:


My posts here is not in support of those who abuse the system, nobody here come down on fraudsters more than i do, my frustration with Gemma11 view is the generalisation, her hardcore nationalistic view, student visa holders contribute upfront more into the system than any other type of immigrants.

The UK govt has the means and ways to limit number of students coming in with their families, you can't throw them under the bus after granting them visas at high cost then when they get in you start shouting immigration number bla bla bla