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Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by smeag0l(m): 7:38am On Feb 16, 2022
Like I told you earlier , this is an industry i work in and ive been opportunrd to visit one or two gas plants in some of these coubtries i mentioned. And like i told you earlier, Russia cutting off gas supply from europe may have slight implications but this can be managed. Germany, Norway, England, Netherland and France are all oil and gas producing countries, it'sjust that for Germany , the gas they produce wont be enough to seeve both domestic and industrial use. This is mainly due to population and ehixh is why they import from Russia. Same with Italy. However, they can always explore an LNG option and it is in discussions currently. I dont care whoever Russia goes to supply their gas to. The main thing is that if sanctions are imposed on them theyll find it hard to sell their gas. Not because china wont buy, but because china wont have a medium to pay them. US,UN and NATO will go as far as removing Russian banks and their routing numbers from international bank transactions. Except the chinese will pay them in chinese yen. Because, for all i know, almost all of the world's oil and gas transactions is done in USD.
anonymous1759:



You try by all means to shift Goal post . It’s sad you can’t be redeemed any longer . From your assertion you created alternative other European countries to get Gas . Just like their likes have alternatives , Russia has China too to patronize her natural gas .

Russia has been supplying Crude oil to Venezuela and Syria for some time . Don’t make it sound like they’re isolated. Just like the western Media make it look.

And I noticed you forgot to talk about the Area where NATO also show her military strength via NATO drills sometimes they cross to Russian and China boarders. And gets chased.
it that not aggression ? But since the Media you rely on don’t put it that way you’ll never see it but talk about Russia and China . It’s high time you start thinking for yourself.
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by anonymous1759(m): 7:46am On Feb 16, 2022
smeag0l:
Like I told you earlier , this is an industry i work in and ive been opportunrd to visit one or two gas plants in some of these coubtries i mentioned. And like i told you earlier, Russia cutting off gas supply from europe may have slight implications but this can be managed. Germany, Norway, England, Netherland and France are all oil and gas producing countries, it'sjust that for Germany , the gas they produce wont be enough to seeve both domestic and industrial use. This is mainly due to population and ehixh is why they import from Russia. Same with Italy. However, they can always explore an LNG option and it is in discussions currently. I dont care whoever Russia goes to supply their gas to. The main thing is that if sanctions are imposed on them theyll find it hard to sell their gas. Not because china wont buy, but because china wont have a medium to pay them. US,UN and NATO will go as far as removing Russian banks and their routing numbers from international bank transactions. Except the chinese will pay them in chinese yen. Because, for all i know, almost all of the world's oil and gas transactions is done in USD.


Like I said when it comes to that level they’ll definitely find a way . Iran , Syria , North Korea, Russia , Venezuela, Cuba all been living in sanctions but they’re surviving.

Who thought Iran will be able to continue are Nuclear programs ? But the western Media will make it seem like when you’re sanctioned you can’t cope in life . That’s the real propaganda to spread fear to nations so they’ll bow to them. It’s more like mind Game.

If country like Iran can survive with sanctions for over 20 I bet Russia won’t be a problem .
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by smeag0l(m): 7:59am On Feb 16, 2022
Sanctions are not meant for a country to go extinct. Theyre deterrent measures. Nigeria was once sanctioned under Abacha's regime. The main reason for the sanctions is so that Russia wont be able to fund a war. Iran tests nuclear weapons in the atlantic.
US cant come and occupy their country or fight them so as to stop their activities. Thats the difference between US , Russia and China. Russia and China are still living in the 19th century where you can "conquer" or annex a country as yours. US and the entire west is now making it known to them that the world has gone beyond this mentality and that these countries are sovereign states of their own and shouldnt be breached or dictated to just because theyre close to Russia or China.
anonymous1759:



Like I said when it comes to that level they’ll definitely find a way . Iran , Syria , North Korea, Russia , Venezuela, Cuba all been living in sanctions but they’re surviving.

Who thought Iran will be able to continue are Nuclear programs ? But the western Media will make it seem like when you’re sanctioned you can’t cope in life . That’s the real propaganda to spread fear to nations so they’ll bow to them. It’s more like mind Game.

If country like Iran can survive with sanctions for over 20 I bet Russia won’t be a problem .
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by anonymous1759(m): 9:02am On Feb 16, 2022
smeag0l:
Sanctions are not meant for a country to go extinct. Theyre deterrent measures. Nigeria was once sanctioned under Abacha's regime. The main reason for the sanctions is so that Russia wont be able to fund a war. Iran tests nuclear weapons in the atlantic.
US cant come and occupy their country or fight them so as to stop their activities. Thats the difference between US , Russia and China. Russia and China are still living in the 19th century where you can "conquer" or annex a country as yours. US and the entire west is now making it known to them that the world has gone beyond this mentality and that these countries are sovereign states of their own and shouldnt be breached or dictated to just because theyre close to Russia or China.


But when America did the same thing to CUBA they didn’t think Cuba is a sovereign nation or has a right to make military alliance’s with ever country she wishes to.
America will any day any time invade Cuba , Mexico or any country around them if they make military alliances with Russia or China . Knowing fully well that a base of one of these countries I made mention of will have a military intelligence there.

A threat to America is a world threat but a threat to Russia and China is not . That’s purely double standard. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by smeag0l(m): 12:34pm On Feb 16, 2022
Okay, since you keep mentioning Cuba maybe i should explain to you what happened in Cuba in 1962. US forces were occupying Turkey, Italy and West Germany from the end of the second world war up till 1962 so as to prevent an attack by Russia on their allies. This attack could either be orchestrated from Poland, East Germany or even from Russia. Russian president at the time, now felt the US occupying Turkey or Italy was too close to them and would give the US a "first strike" advantage in the event of a war. So they decided to also look for a way to occupy a territory very close to the US. At that time, they knew the US had a conflict with Cuba because the president turned against them after helping him win elections so they decided to use Cuba. They started bringing in missiles to cuba by flight and sea. Ehen the US realized this, the had to call Russia to take off all those weapons and Russia now brought a bargain of US also pulling out of Turkey and Italy(west Germany was not included in this deal because Russia also occupied east germany) . That was how that issue was solved. Russia instigated the Cuban crisis. This almost led to a third world war because Russian ships almost shot at a US surveillance airplane hovering around Cuba to gather intelligence on what was happening.
anonymous1759:



But when America did the same thing to CUBA they didn’t think Cuba is a sovereign nation or has a right to make military alliance’s with ever country she wishes to.
America will any day any time invade Cuba , Mexico or any country around them if they make military alliances with Russia or China . Knowing fully well that a base of one of these countries I made mention of will have a military intelligence there.

A threat to America is a world threat but a threat to Russia and China is not . That’s purely double standard. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by anonymous1759(m): 12:44pm On Feb 16, 2022
smeag0l:
Okay, since you keep mentioning Cuba maybe i should explain to you what happened in Cuba in 1962. US forces were occupying Turkey, Italy and West Germany from the end of the second world war up till 1962 so as to prevent an attack by Russia on their allies. This attack could either be orchestrated from Poland, East Germany or even from Russia. Russian president at the time, now felt the US occupying Turkey or Italy was too close to them and would give the US a "first strike" advantage in the event of a war. So they decided to also look for a way to occupy a territory very close to the US. At that time, they knew the US had a conflict with Cuba because the president turned against them after helping him win elections so they decided to use Cuba. They started bringing in missiles to cuba by flight and sea. Ehen the US realized this, the had to call Russia to take off all those weapons and Russia now brought a bargain of US also pulling out of Turkey and Italy(west Germany was not included in this deal because Russia also occupied east germany) . That was how that issue was solved. Russia instigated the Cuban crisis. This almost led to a third world war because Russian ships almost shot at a US surveillance airplane hovering around Cuba to gather intelligence on what was happening.

Just like Russia took advantage of Cuba that’s how the USA is taking advantage of countries closer to Russia who are not in good terms with Russia.
So what’s the difference? Every country is fighting for her interest the only thing I cannot allow is to allow western Media think for me. You can’t make me dislike a country because you despise them .
So many people hate Russia and China because western Media propaganda. I was in that position before but now I’m free to think for myself. You should be at the liberty to do the without any bias they should be balance of power.
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by smeag0l(m): 2:13pm On Feb 16, 2022
Well, i dont hate them because of western propaganda. I hate them because of the economic systems they practice. They practice a socialist/communist system. However, the leaders of those countries are closet capitalists. And they dont even practice what they profess in its entirety. A socialist system of givernment requires that the government controls everything, citizens are not allowed to set prices etc. It also requires provision to be made for social amenities by the government and for the citizens all for free or at a very subsidized rate. This is not what is happening in those two countries.
anonymous1759:


Just like Russia took advantage of Cuba that’s how the USA is taking advantage of countries closer to Russia who are not in good terms with Russia.
So what’s the difference? Every country is fighting for her interest the only thing I cannot allow is to allow western Media think for me. You can’t make me dislike a country because you despise them .
So many people hate Russia and China because western Media propaganda. I was in that position before but now I’m free to think for myself. You should be at the liberty to do the without any bias they should be balance of power.
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by anonymous1759(m): 2:38pm On Feb 16, 2022
smeag0l:
Well, i dont hate them because of western propaganda. I hate them because of the economic systems they practice. They practice a socialist/communist system. However, the leaders of those countries are closet capitalists. And they dont even practice what they profess in its entirety. A socialist system of givernment requires that the government controls everything, citizens are not allowed to set prices etc. It also requires provision to be made for social amenities by the government and for the citizens all for free or at a very subsidized rate. This is not what is happening in those two countries.


No system of Government is perfect. I believe anything goes as long your citizens are fine. Democracy is not for every country same thing with either socialist or capitalist system of government the end point should be progress.
If you can achieve that at the end of the day you’re fine.
Western Media will criticize China and Russia for their their type of economy they run . But if you look closely some of their allies do the same but they won’t criticize them .
Re: US, allies ask citizens to leave Ukraine at once, amid a possible Russia attack by Eneye4me: 12:12am On Mar 31, 2022
LtChisom:


Na your papa dey deranged with your worthless prophet mohammed and lunatic allah not me, idiots.

Because the US is helping the world tame your rapist violent and terrorist religion most of you vagabonds now feel they care you support the russians.

They will keep stashing you headslamming imbeciles in guatemala bay since you've said that you guys will not allow this world to rest cos of your idiotic senile arabian prophet who out of his drug abuse introduced an aggressive maniac religion into this world.
Have U take ur pills, mad man

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