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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by goody234: 1:20am On Apr 28, 2022
Some empty head on another thread was arguing with me about this ...europe needs russian gas badly they are all paying in roubles we all know this ....Na propaganda news says the opposite

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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by kayjay69(m): 2:02am On Apr 28, 2022
Source: RT

grin grin grin
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by kayjay69(m): 2:04am On Apr 28, 2022
Why do you waste your time trying to educate some of these fools on nairaland.
They barely know the history of their own people talk less of world history and geopolitics.

For them it's always good guy Vs bad guy, police and thief mentality na him den dey use view these things. It's no wonder we are so daft and naive as a people in Nigeria.

There is no good cop, bad cop in all of this. All of these actors are both good and bad, only thing that matters to them is shared interests full stop. The minute we as Africans understand this concept, the simpler our lives would be and the wiser we would be especially in our dealings with others.

Nigerians won't bother to focus on Nigeria and Africa, a civil war next door in Cameroon another in Ethiopia, but no na wetin dey go on for Eastern Europe we go dey concerned with. And rather than look at how that affects us as a people, we are busy picking sides in a war that is really not our business.
Kingpin1000:

Don't blame poland,they already have beef with Russia even before WWII, Poland were attacked be Nazi Germany and were overrun by Russians, an average Polish man hates Russians.
So they can freeze with their hatred.

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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Mangekyo: 2:10am On Apr 28, 2022
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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Nobody: 2:23am On Apr 28, 2022
grandstar:


Do you know which funds are going to rebuild war torn Ukraine? They will be taken from the frozen $300bn foreign reserves of Russia. Also, Putin is reputed to have at at least $70bn stashed overseas. This can also be used.

The West won't use the money because again... it's Russia and not some small country they can bully around. And it doesn't even benefit them anyway (that's if they could the money). Why use Russia's money to rebuild Ukraine when you can loan Ukraine money at good interests and throw it into more debt it would struggle to repay? That's American Capitalism 101.

grandstar:

Though the Rouble is rebounding, the Russian economy is crashing. Its GDP is expected to shrink by 8% this year alone.

"Is expected to"? In the last paragraph I quoted earlier, you said "They will be taken from..." Don't live in the future when you cannot live in the present.

It's hard for a country to go into a deep recession when its currency is appreciating, don't you think? Currencies fall with their economies and rise with them.

I should also add that wars generally reduce the GDP of a country unless you manufacture your own weapons, have lots of natural resources, can turn those resources into finished goods, and depend on local tech rather than imports.

Russia fits that bill properly, just like the US and in the near future, China. Wars increase the GDP of these kinds of countries and not reduce them, as long as the war is not fought on their soil.

grandstar:
A Russian economist said there's nothing produced in Russia that does not have a foreign input. Russia was well integrated into the world's economy. These inputs are now going to be very hard to purchase. Some believethar economic output might fall by as much as 11%.

More future tenses in bold?

There is nothing produced anywhere that doesn't have foreign input. That's globalization. Besides, Russia actually exports more to the West including the US than they import from Russia (other than gas). And again, the sort of things Russia exports are the things those economies need while the things it imports are things it can do without, or at least, can easily get elsewhere.

Let's not live in fantasyland and face reality. How many countries have survived US sanctions? Not to talk of a joint US-EU sanction?

Even economic blocs would tremble at the mere mention of US sanctions. But here's Russia taking on joint US-EU sanctions like a boss. Instead, the sanctions have had more effects on US and EU than on Russia. Why? Because they export more from Russia than Russia exports from them.

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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Horus(m): 2:25am On Apr 28, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acyWFeGJ20

What The EU Paying For Gas In Rubles Means For The Dollar, Silver, & Inflation
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Nobody: 4:19am On Apr 28, 2022
Osariemen12:
At least 10 countries have set up Russian bank accounts.



Source: https://www.rt.com/business/554612-eu-buyers-russian-gas-ruble/
mad respect!

Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by boyfrank: 5:52am On Apr 28, 2022
Kingpin1000:

Don't blame poland,they already have beef with Russia even before WWII, Poland were attacked be Nazi Germany and were overrun by Russians, an average Polish man hates Russians.
So they can freeze with their hatred.

POLES WERE NAZI?
Like I said earlier, you need to have the IQ of a goat to be a Putin supporter.

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Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by boyfrank: 5:57am On Apr 28, 2022
naija4life247:


Uncle, why you come carry another person matter for head like cap? You sure say you dey alright upstairs?

You wey carry Putin mata for head like olodo, ur head correct?
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by MDK777: 6:08am On Apr 28, 2022
U SaBi The Game OGa PuttIn ForGet Those BornFooLS Supporting West
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Osariemen12: 6:57am On Apr 28, 2022
Astoria:
mad respect!


Putin deserves it.
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Osariemen12: 6:59am On Apr 28, 2022
darediamond:
grin
You gat no Joy ooo!!

Irrational decisions turn me off.
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by sayso: 8:07am On Apr 28, 2022
Still the same are they going to eat the gas? Russia will still convert to £$€ when paying for imports. As nigerians trading in cameroon or benin republic use dollars? No. Has it improve our naira NO. So your currency weight depends on in/out of major items.
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by nobilie: 8:09am On Apr 28, 2022
The only thing keeping Russia is its propensity to go nuke(s). If not, any attack on dollar is war from America. That was the reason for the fall of Ghadaffi who wanted OPEC to stop receiving $ as currency of payment
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Akuruoulo(m): 8:28am On Apr 28, 2022
Osariemen12:


They have the option of avalanching with the enamel of the snow just to avoid Russia's gas. One thing you were not taught in school is this: there are two continents on earth - Russia and others.
SAME WAY A CNTINENT IS FIGHTING A WEAK NATION FOR OVER 2 MONTHS, THESE COUNTRIES WILL SURVIVE THIS 100%
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by ariesbull: 8:35am On Apr 28, 2022
THEY WILL PAY OR NO ELECTRICITY OR COLD KILLETH
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by ariesbull: 8:38am On Apr 28, 2022
Shoodboi:


The West won't use the money because again... it's Russia and not some small country they can bully around. And it doesn't even benefit them anyway (that's if they could the money). Why use Russia's money to rebuild Ukraine when you can loan Ukraine money at good interests and throw it into more debt it would struggle to repay? That's American Capitalism 101.



"Is expected to"? In the last paragraph I quoted earlier, you said "They will be taken from..." Don't live in the future when you cannot live in the present.

It's hard for a country to go into a deep recession when its currency is appreciating, don't you think? Currencies fall with their economies and rise with them.

I should also add that wars generally reduce the GDP of a country unless you manufacture your own weapons, have lots of natural resources, can turn those resources into finished goods, and depend on local tech rather than imports.

Russia fits that bill properly, just like the US and in the near future, China. Wars increase the GDP of these kinds of countries and not reduce them, as long as the war is not fought on their soil.



More future tenses in bold?

There is nothing produced anywhere that doesn't have foreign input. That's globalization. Besides, Russia actually exports more to the West including the US than they import from Russia (other than gas). And again, the sort of things Russia exports are the things those economies need while the things it imports are things it can do without, or at least, can easily get elsewhere.

Let's not live in fantasyland and face reality. How many countries have survived US sanctions? Not to talk of a joint US-EU sanction?

Even economic blocs would tremble at the mere mention of US sanctions. But here's Russia taking on joint US-EU sanctions like a boss. Instead, the sanctions have had more effects on US and EU than on Russia. Why? Because they export more from Russia than Russia exports from them.




VERY INTELLIGENT...U LECTURED THE CLOWN
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Guyman02: 8:49am On Apr 28, 2022
Shoodboi:
The ruble has recovered what it lost at the beginning of the war and its worth is only going to increase. I should start trading ruble on forex so that I too can make some cool cash from the largeese while Ukraine is drowning in debt under the guise of aid. Debt used to provide weapons that are destroyed at the warfront. Who else noticed we haven't been seeing photos of destroyed Russian tanks lately?

Western media seems to have pulled out many of their reporters from Ukraine, they realise that this is not Iraq and people outside the West are not buying their propaganda. The Arabs have refused to co-operate with EU and USA to increase oil and gas production making the sanctions ineffective
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Cantonese: 8:55am On Apr 28, 2022
Osariemen12:





The stupid people in Poland can freeze to death, go days without a bath and shut down their industries. After all, they are poles.

At least it is their country.

People like you beg, sacrifice, kill, etc just to get visas and escape the irresponsible going on in your own country.
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by maasoap(m): 9:09am On Apr 28, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:



Nothing is spectacular about Russia`s energy.

Countries will seek alternatives which is abundant.

Lol. Except that they are now paying in rubbles
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Guyman02: 9:16am On Apr 28, 2022
adedehinbo:
Some one should give me an independent sources i can get the update about the wars from,most of the ones i read online are the west tools of propaganda
Get the Russian side of the story on www.rt.com and www.sputnik.com and read the western side on CNN, MSNBC and bbc, the truth lies in the middle.

For independent analysis read www.thegrayzone.com
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by SeriouslySense(m): 9:17am On Apr 28, 2022
cool cool cool cool Listen to Mrs Palki on Wion: Gravitas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGz7iEpy-UY
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by MeeLan: 10:40am On Apr 28, 2022
Kingpin1000:
To a good leader, the welfare of His/her citizens remains paramount.
I pity those countries that are being pushed by the US.. they forgot there are opposition politicians in their countries, a little push from the opposition, the masses will be on the streets calling for the head of their leaders.
When inflation hits, shortage of energy thr masses will call for the heads of their leaders.
Only small fuel scarcity for last december,Paul Scholes abi Gary Neville dey go fight for filling station.
Biden and his son are rogues benefiting from sweats of Ukraine.
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by grandstar(m): 10:45am On Apr 28, 2022
Shoodboi:


The West won't use the money because again... it's Russia and not some small country they can bully around. And it doesn't even benefit them anyway (that's if they could the money). Why use Russia's money to rebuild Ukraine when you can loan Ukraine money at good interests and throw it into more debt it would struggle to repay? That's American Capitalism 101.



"Is expected to"? In the last paragraph I quoted earlier, you said "They will be taken from..." Don't live in the future when you cannot live in the present.

It's hard for a country to go into a deep recession when its currency is appreciating, don't you think? Currencies fall with their economies and rise with them.

I should also add that wars generally reduce the GDP of a country unless you manufacture your own weapons, have lots of natural resources, can turn those resources into finished goods, and depend on local tech rather than imports.

Russia fits that bill properly, just like the US and in the near future, China. Wars increase the GDP of these kinds of countries and not reduce them, as long as the war is not fought on their soil.



More future tenses in bold?

There is nothing produced anywhere that doesn't have foreign input. That's globalization. Besides, Russia actually exports more to the West including the US than they import from Russia (other than gas). And again, the sort of things Russia exports are the things those economies need while the things it imports are things it can do without, or at least, can easily get elsewhere.

Let's not live in fantasyland and face reality. How many countries have survived US sanctions? Not to talk of a joint US-EU sanction?

Even economic blocs would tremble at the mere mention of US sanctions. But here's Russia taking on joint US-EU sanctions like a boss. Instead, the sanctions have had more effects on US and EU than on Russia. Why? Because they export more from Russia than Russia exports from them.

For now, read the article. We shall discuss later

https://www.afr.com/world/europe/why-russia-s-economy-is-holding-on-despite-sanctions-20220427-p5agh9
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by BlueAir: 11:48am On Apr 28, 2022
Ball less countries
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by adedehinbo(m): 3:19pm On Apr 28, 2022
Guyman02:

Get the Russian side of the story on www.rt.com and www.sputnik.com and read the western side on CNN, MSNBC and bbc, the truth lies in the middle.

For independent analysis read www.thegrayzone.com
thanks bro
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Nobody: 3:47pm On Apr 28, 2022
[s]
Goddson:
How has the life of Europeans changed with the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions?

The EU urged citizens to turn off the heating, reduce the speed of the car and switch to remote control.

▪️In Germany, it was advised to wash less often so as not to depend on Russian gas

▪️In France, residents were asked to lower the temperature in the batteries of apartments, save on air conditioners and lighting

In Italy, restrictions are imposed on the temperature: in summer it should not be below 25 ° C, and in winter – no higher than 19 ° C

In Ireland, for the sake of saving gasoline, motorists were advised to slow down less often, not carry heavy loads and not turn on the air conditioner, but it is better to walk

In Lithuania, citizens were advised to boil less water, lower the temperature in the room to 16 degrees Celsius and listen to music quieter

▪️In Estonia, it was recommended to wash clothes at night and insulate houses

I pray this people put their citizens first.
[/s] Stfu
Re: Four EU Countries Make Gas Payments In Russia's Rubbles by Aaay: 4:49pm On Apr 28, 2022
Really

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