ddippset:

first of all you're biased right from the on set. what messi has performed for argentina ronaldo can only dream of for portugal. anyways me thinks it all depends. you said the super eagles and one more- messi or ronaldo right? ok here's your answer. if you want the super eagles to produce the highest goal scorer in the competition, go for ronaldo but if you want to win the competition then messi is the man you want.

dademola:

hhmnn!!! Messi has been outstanding for argentina. He single-handedly qualified d team for d last worldcup. He was instrumental in his team's succes @ d 2006 worldcup. @ d last worldcup, he was turnament's top scorer and he also had d most assists. In d ongoing copa america, he dribbled past d whole uruguayan team. Due to all dis feats accomplished wit his national team, he has won d ballon d'or twice. I fink ma facts are correct cos i got dem from STEVIE WONDER!!!!!! Guy, d poster neva sed xavi and iniesta are ready to wear green-white-green!!!!!!ut if you want to win the competition then messi is the man you want.

hhmnn!!! Messi has been outstanding for argentina. He single-handedly qualified d team for d last worldcup. He was instrumental in his team's succes @ d 2006 worldcup. @ d last worldcup, he was turnament's top scorer and he also had d most assists. In d ongoing copa america, he dribbled past d whole uruguayan team. Due to all dis feats accomplished wit his national team, he has won d ballon d'or twice. I fink ma facts are correct cos i got dem from STEVIE WONDER!!!!!! Guy, d poster neva sed xavi and iniesta are ready to wear green-white-green!!!!!!

all that sarcasm is entirely irrelevant and out of context here boi. Messi is trash 4 argentina, good. But ronaldo? He's trash x 10 for portugal. Messi owns his on international and on club level, messi owns him tripple time.

tactics or no tactics, dis plyrs stand out

omar22:

Gosh men, The main fact that Ronaldo did more rolling on the ground than playing at the 2006 wc, flopped at EURO2008 when everyone thought he was going deliver egg shaped trophy, struggled to qualify for south africa and flopped in South Africa, I bet George Weah is rubbish because Liberia got nowhere in football or Jean Pierre Papin who failed get France to 2 world cup is also rubbish,

ddippset:

all that sarcasm is entirely irrelevant and out of context here boi. Messi is trash 4 argentina, good. But ronaldo? He's trash x 10 for portugal. Messi owns his on international and on club level, messi owns him tripple time.

dademola:

hmmn!! Both havnt performed too well for dia national teams bt ronaldo's goals/game ratio;26/80, is betta dan messi's 17/60.so @ d moment, ronaldo has contributed more to his national team dan messi has done, dude!! Ronaldo has been tried and tested @ 2 different clubs havin 2 differnt sets of plyrs wit 2 different managers who have 2 differnt mentalities and he still performed. We both knw dis is d most imprtant factor for d above thread, bt due to sentimental attachment and a certain obssession for d best plyr in d world, u want to continue ignorin d obvious!!

omar22:

Gosh men, The main fact that Ronaldo did more rolling on the ground than playing at the 2006 wc, flopped at EURO2008 when everyone thought he was going deliver egg shaped trophy, struggled to qualify for south africa and flopped in South Africa, I bet George Weah is rubbish because Liberia got nowhere in football or Jean Pierre Papin who failed get France to 2 world cup is also rubbish,

omar22:

Gosh men, The main fact that Ronaldo did more rolling on the ground than playing at the 2006 wc, flopped at EURO2008 when everyone thought he was going deliver egg shaped trophy, struggled to qualify for south africa and flopped in South Africa, I bet George Weah is rubbish because Liberia got nowhere in football or Jean Pierre Papin who failed get France to 2 world cup is also rubbish,

ddippset:

goals per game what? So now if you want to judge players performance you simply count the goals and then go to sleep? Messi at least has 2 trophies for his country and ronaldo? And plls cut out that 2 clubs talk. Playing for man u and madrrd? 2 biggest clubs u have great great players all around u u aint proving poo.

ddippset:

lol. When did we agree to leave out age grade tournaments? If ronaldo was an unknown quantity as an u 17 and an u20, it means he simply aint naturally talented enuff.

dademola:

ofcourse we hav to leave out age-grade tournaments cos d poster sed super eagles, and not flying eagles or golden eaglets So frm wot u're sayin, cos zidane was an unknown quantity @ dis levels, he aint naturally talented?? Cos henry was an unknown quantity @ dis level, his talent has nw become artificial Hw many more names do u need?? Dis is obviously d height of it all. Guy, face reality: wit xavi and iniesta, messi is superb. Without em, he is, Dnt lemme say wots on ma mind

ddippset:

ok, since ronni has proven to b impotent in a pportugal jersy that means he was thrash back then without scholes and giggs and he is thrash now without ozil and alonso. How do u like that.lets stop haggling over petty details like some sellers of melon.xavi this iniesta that zidane this henry that. The facts are there messi 2 ballon dors, no 3 this yr. More champions league medals, more internatinal medals. Compared 2 maradona, pele. What r u arguing self? And hey i got alot of my mind too. Holla at me.

ddippset:

ok, since ronni has proven to b impotent in a pportugal jersy that means he was thrash back then without scholes and giggs and he is thrash now without ozil and alonso. How do u like that.lets stop haggling over petty details like some sellers of melon.xavi this iniesta that zidane this henry that. The facts are there messi 2 ballon dors, no 3 this yr. More champions league medals, more internatinal medals. Compared 2 maradona, pele. What r u arguing self? And hey i got alot of my mind too. Holla at me.

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ok, since ronni has proven to b impotent in a pportugal jersy that means he was thrash back then without scholes and giggs and he is thrash now without ozil and alonso. How do u like that.lets stop haggling over petty details like some sellers of melon.xavi this iniesta that zidane this henry that. The facts are there messi 2 ballon dors, no 3 this yr. More champions league medals, more internatinal medals. Compared 2 maradona, pele. What r u arguing self? And hey i got alot of my mind too. Holla at me.

dademola:

that is excactly ma point!! D argument, to me, is who will fit in betta into a team, not who is more decorated or who is betta.we are left wit 2 plyrs. One has proven himself wit 2 different teams and 2 different gaffers. D oda has shown us dt he needs 2 particular plyrs b4 he can perform. Considerin d above parameters,i tink d ansa to d thread shld b obvious!dals. Compared 2 maradona, pele. What r u arguing self? And hey i got alot of my mind too. Holla at me.that is excactly ma point!! D argument, to me, is who will fit in betta into a team, not who is more decorated or who is betta.we are left wit 2 plyrs. One has proven himself wit 2 different teams and 2 different gaffers. D oda has shown us dt he needs 2 particular plyrs b4 he can perform. Considerin d above parameters,i tink d ansa to d thread shld b obvious!

ddippset:

iam amazed really. Is there really anyone on our god given earth who doesn't know how selfless messi is and how he loves to play for the team and how ronaldo is a glory hunter and loves to win individual accolade and top scorer's awards? How ronaldo has had beef with cassilas and alonso 4 these reasons. If ronaldo was in the super eagles his aim would consistently be to win the golden boot but messi would score and also try to assist osaze and aiyegbeni. Thats my point. We need messi. Lets get siasia to have him nationalize for us.

dademola:

ehehehehehehheehe!! Like i hav bin repeating since: ADAPTABILITY IS D WATCH-WORD HIA!! Games are won by goals, not attempts @goal, brova. Even if CR7 loves personal accolades, as long as it isnt@ d detriment of d team, no problem. Why Cos he wld give siasia goals and assists, WITHOUT WAITING FOR ROONEY OR GIGGS to b nigerians!!!!messi wld 'try' to assist osaze and aiyegbeni, bt to no avail. Why? Cos 2 certain spanish players hav refused to play for d super eagles!! Siasa wld hav to nationalize 3 plyrs, then!!s long as it isnt@ d detriment of d team, no problem. Why Cos he wld give siasia goals and assists, WITHOUT WAITING FOR ROONEY OR GIGGS to b nigerians!!!!messi wld 'try' to assist osaze and aiyegbeni, bt to no avail. Why? Cos 2 certain spanish players hav refused to play for d super eagles!! Siasa wld hav to nationalize 3 plyrs, then!!

ddippset:

seriously i doubt that you do watch argentina's and barca's games. You just wtach highlights and read headlines and come out criticising messi. But of course messi is a master creator. Did you see how many chances he made for higuain and lavezzi which they blasted away? No you didnt. Why? U just werent watching. If higuain only scored one more of those chances then argentina would be playing the final tmrw. Plus, at least messi will take us to the quarter finals and president goodluck ebele azikiwe jonathan will declare a 10 day public holiday.

dademola:

dats d difference btwn d 2 of us. I only talk about players dt i watch closely. Is it dt u want to start comparing his club and country forms??dt will be sucidal. Can u compare d creativity messi shws @ barca to d one he shws wit argentina??if u decide to do so, it means u obviously 'watch' d game frm tabloids and newspapers. Quater final my left foot!!!! Why are u findin it so hard to accept d xavi and iniesta factor??

ddippset:

there have been greater mid field pairs in the world than xavi and iniesta. Messi equated the record 47 goals in a major league season. Now again 53. Top scorer ever in a champions league season. Top scorer 3 consecutive champioms leagues. Why didnt other players achieve that with other top class mid fielders? or you will now tell me xavi and iniesta are the best mid fielders the world has ever produced?

dademola:

i kip on emphasizin on xavi and iniesta cos dey have performed consistently for barca and spain, showing d obvious: dey dnt nid messi, bt messi needs dem!!!as i hav alws sed, swap messi wit david silva and see wot happens@ both barca and city. All peles and maradonnas u mentioned, wit d exception messi, all hav one tin in common: dey hav proved dia mettle wit diffent sets of plyrs!!! Messi is a worldclass plyr wit xavi and iniesta!! Period!! Y is it so hard for u to accept d obvious??

ddippset:

in u-20 2005 argentina had 11 players messi was the best. In olympics 2008 argentina had 11 players messi was the best. In world cup 2010 argentina had 11 players messi was the best. In copa america 2011 argentina had 11 players messi was the best. In barca season after season messi has goals more than xavi and iniesta combined. Messi has assissts more than xavi and iniesta combined. He is barca's best and most important player.What else do you want? I think i need a break from this argument.

ddippset:

xavi and iniesta have messi to thank for the fame and recognition they enjoy. Messi scores the goals in quality as well as in quantity. If messi kept on missing the goals from their quality asssists then no one would even take note of their contributions.barca kept on winning by 3-0, 5-0 but without messi in the world cup spain struggled to win their games 1-0, 1-0. You keep dosging salient issues, how did messi bcome best player of holland 2005 and one of the best at the world cup? You still cannot answer how messi has more assists than xavi+ iniesta for 3 seasons now. Keep dodging these questions.

dademola:

dey hav messi to thank?? Jst as dey had him to thank@ d last worldcup and @ euro 2008?? Why are u doing dis

ddippset:

listen to what 14 guys i know said of messi ! BARAK OBAMA- iam like messi. HUSSEIN BOLT- he is my favourite player. ARSENE WENGER- he is a player from play station. ALEX FERGUSSON- we just couldn't cope with messi. PEP GUORDIOLA- messi is the best ever. XAVI HIMSELF- messi is the best player in history. WAYNE ROONEY- messi is the best player ive seen. GRONDONA- i just dont know who is better, messi, maradona. ADILES- he is my greatest footballer ever. MARADONA- he is my successor. SAMUEL ETO- lionel messi is god. JOSE MOURINHO- with messi its unpredictable he dan play against me next time and score 5 goals. FRANK RIBERY- i want to be as good as messi. DADEMOLA- messi is thrash.