Mademan5:

Oga try to read carefully before rushing to reply. I never said buhari's son is equally to his father, I specifically said in that particular occassion that he is representing his father, he will be accorded the same respect that would have been given to the father if he was the one that came. If they had book sharaton hotel for Buhari, that same hotel is what his son will stay, they they have reserved a gold plate to use and serve the president alone, even though he didn't come, they will still serve the representative with that same gold plate, what does this mean? It means at that point he is representing the president, he is one with the president that is why they will put him in the same hotel room reserved for the president , give him food in the same gold plate reserved only for the president because in that particular occassion he is being seen as the president even though the main person isn't present in the ocassions. Read slowly and carefully, so you can understand the point .

Mademan5:

Oga try to read carefully before rushing to reply. I never said buhari's son is equally to his father, I specifically said in that particular occassion that he is representing his father, he will be accorded the same respect that would have been given to the father if he was the one that came. If they had book sharaton hotel for Buhari, that same hotel is what his son will stay, they they have reserved a gold plate to use and serve the president alone, even though he didn't come, they will still serve the representative with that same gold plate, what does this mean? It means at that point he is representing the president, he is one with the president that is why they will put him in the same hotel room reserved for the president , give him food in the same gold plate reserved only for the president because in that particular occassion he is being seen as the president even though the main person isn't present in the ocassions. Read slowly and carefully, so you can understand the point .

Mademan5:

Oga try to read carefully before rushing to reply. I never said buhari's son is equally to his father, I specifically said in that particular occassion that he is representing his father, he will be accorded the same respect that would have been given to the father if he was the one that came. If they had book sharaton hotel for Buhari, that same hotel is what his son will stay, they they have reserved a gold plate to use and serve the president alone, even though he didn't come, they will still serve the representative with that same gold plate, what does this mean? It means at that point he is representing the president, he is one with the president that is why they will put him in the same hotel room reserved for the president , give him food in the same gold plate reserved only for the president because in that particular occassion he is being seen as the president even though the main person isn't present in the ocassions. Read slowly and carefully, so you can understand the point .

HedwigesMaduro:


This explanation is very deep and scripturally sound.

Janosky:

Jesus is a god, not ho Theos (the God) his Father.
Trinitarians REMOVED Greek definite article "ho" ("the" in English) to create a false impression that Jesus is ho Theos the God his Father ( in 2nd sentence of John 1:1, Check Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible.
Ho Theos the God is at John 4:24,John 14:1, Bill Mounce did not remove it.
John 1:1 should read the same as Acts 12:22-23, to differentiate ho Theos from other god as Paul did at 1 Corinthians 8:5-6).

Shalom.

Maynman:


Ho is the.
Theos is god.
Since you are using Greek language, let’s maintain it and not divert to English.

So if you call it theos or ho theos is the same.
You forgot to mention that they also removed gods name in the Bible, Elohim the most high, and Yahweh(jehovah) the lord.

Janosky:

In the Greek/English Interlinear Bible, when the reference is to Yahweh the Most High, He is addressed as Theos or ho Theos (the God).
But whenever Theos refers to another being , the interlinear address that being as "a god/gods"
For example,1 Corinthians 8:5-6 & Acts 12:22-23, Bill mounce Greek interlinear Bible.

Shalom.

Janosky:

In the Greek/English Interlinear Bible, when the reference is to Yahweh the Most High, He is addressed as Theos or ho Theos (the God).
But whenever Theos refers to another being , the interlinear address that being as "a god/gods"
For example,1 Corinthians 8:5-6 & Acts 12:22-23, Bill mounce Greek interlinear Bible.

Shalom.

And why are using the interlinear Bible?
English Bible VERSIONS are written from Septuagint Bible(Greek) and the masoretic text, none from interlinear Bible. The interlinear Bible was also written from these same sources. I don’t know why you brought up the interlinear Bible, it has no use, but agenda must agend abi Jehovah witness

Janosky:

In the Greek/English Interlinear Bible, when the reference is to Yahweh the Most High, He is addressed as Theos or ho Theos (the God).
But whenever Theos refers to another being , the interlinear address that being as "a god/gods"
For example,1 Corinthians 8:5-6 & Acts 12:22-23, Bill mounce Greek interlinear Bible.

Shalom.

Maynman:


When the son goes to represent the president, they will announce that the president is NOT here and is represented by a representative.

“THE PRESIDENT IS NOT HERE”

Maynman:


Another flawed analogy is that the president can’t send his son to represent him in state affairs, his son is not part of the government, he can only send ministers or those in government.

Mademan5:

Then after announcing what next?. You haven't been to an occassion where a governor was invited and he sends a representative and after the organizers of the program announcing that the governor was represented. They will still refer the representative as the governor. If there is anything like governor's closing remarks. The representative goes and takes the remark. At that time he is taking that closing remarks he is taking it as the governor while the words are coming out of the representative mouth. What that means is, physically the closing remark is coming out of the representative mouth, but Mystically it is coming out of the governor's mouth even though he is not there. I think your problem is the word "Mistically" you can look it up in the dictionary so that you can understand what it means.

Mademan5:

You still don't get it, the analogy I used can be used for any body that represents him, be it his son, his wife, his deputy, his cabinet member etc. It doesn't matter who the person is, the analogy works for anybody but I used son because we were talking about God and his son Jesus. Try to broading your understanding when reading, you don't expect one to spell out everything for you before you get where the person is going .

Maynman:


In they eyes of the law, he is nothing but a representative, he doesn’t have immunity even though he is REPRESENTING the president, he can’t call any SHOTS, he is just an ordinary representative, [b]everything he is saying at the event are the words of the president not the REPRESENTATIVE [/b]and which was commanded to him by the PRESIDENT.

Mademan5:

This is another place you shows you don't understand what the word "Mystically " means. From the bolded it means physically it is the representative that is talking but Mystically it is the president that is talking . Showing that physically they are two persons at that time of the event but Mystically they are the same person at that time or the event. Like a said before try to understand what that word means it will help your understanding

Mademan5:

This is another place you shows you don't understand what the word "Mystically " means. From the bolded it means physically it is the representative that is talking but Mystically it is the president that is talking . Showing that physically they are two persons at that time of the event but Mystically they are the same person at that time or the event. Like a said before try to understand what that word means it will help your understanding

Mademan5:

This is another place you shows you don't understand what the word "Mystically " means. From the bolded it means physically it is the representative that is talking but Mystically it is the president that is talking . Showing that physically they are two persons at that time of the event but Mystically they are the same person at that time or the event. Like a said before try to understand what that word means it will help your understanding

Maynman:


Even in the entourage that will follow the president son is different from the one of the President. The grandeur of the president is different from REPRESENTATIVE, They can’t accord the same respect to a REPRESENTATIVE!
And you said it yourself, he is representing the president, he is not the SAME with the president.
He is a representative! You said it yourself.
The law doesn’t recognize REPRESENTATIVE as PRESIDENT.

Mademan5:

Since you need everything to be explained to you to the most minute form. This scenero can work on any two persons , it mustn't be between a president only and his son, that was why I aswell used a governor to buttress my point. It can work between your father sending you to represent him in a village meeting, it can be a boss sending his secretary to represent him in a meeting. In that meeting every one sees him as the boss even though he is not the boss but representing the boss, the same respect that they would have been given to the boss will be given to him in that meeting. Period. So Mystically the boss is inside or him and they are one at that meeting but after the meeting he becomes ordinary secretary that he used to be but during that meeting that he is representing the boss, he is the boss. Again understand that word "Mystically ". I think your problem is you haven't witnessed much high profile events where people have to represent high profile personnels . To understand how this thing works

Mademan5:

Since you need everything to be explained to you to the most minute form. This scenero can work on any two persons , it mustn't be between a president only and his son, that was why I aswell used a governor to buttress my point. It can work between your father sending you to represent him in a village meeting, it can be a boss sending his secretary to represent him in a meeting. In that meeting every one sees him as the boss even though he is not the boss but representing the boss, the same respect that they would have been given to the boss will be given to him in that meeting. Period. So Mystically the boss is inside or him and they are one at that meeting but after the meeting he becomes ordinary secretary that he used to be but during that meeting that he is representing the boss, he is the boss. Again understand that word "Mystically ". I think your problem is you haven't witnessed much high profile events where people have to represent high profile personnels . To understand how this thing works

Maynman:


Bro you can act to the limit your father gave you in that event, you can’t slap anyone and say you are representating your father? Can’t you see your analogy is flawed.
And right in that meeting they know you are not your father and there’s even certain words you can say.
The same respect they will give your father age mate they can’t give you small boy even though you are representing him. Where do you live that high profile people are given same respect as representative, why are they then called “high profile”??

Mademan5:
" the word "Mystically" that I have been using is the same as mystery so I get why it's difficult for you to understand

Maynman:


Don’t president of usa send his representatives to us here, do we treat him the same as president of USA? We give him the same gradeur?
If the representative dies in Nigeria right inside the event hall, will the USA president stop being president? Or will Nigerians say the USA president has died?

Maynman:


Mystically they know that the president is not here and it’s the representative that’s talking in the event.
Mystically they know that the president is superior to the representative, and they won’t mistake him for representative another time.
Your analogy is so flawed.

How will they give the same respect and honor to a representative as the president

Mademan5:
No you got it wrong, physically they know that the president is not there but Mystically they know that the president is there.

Maynman:


Bro, mystically the representative can’t sign anything into law in that event, He can’t command the armed forces inside the event hall. He doesn’t have any power over the senate or the country in the event hall.
Mystically he can’t say anything or do something else apart from what the president told him to do in that event, he is a puppet.

Mademan5:

Oboy you don't get it,.do you? When Buhari was out of the country for months and he allowed Osinbajo to represent him, didn't Osinbajo do somethings in the capacity of the president at that moment. I hope i am not wasting my time with a kid here. Physically Osinbajo was the vice president but Mystically he was the president that time that he was representing Buhari as the president . This is simple na

Maynman:


No he didn’t, abba kyari had to take papers to him in London to sign papers into law.

Mademan5:
so it was only Abba kyari taking papers to him in London to sign was the only thing you noticed during when Osibanjo took over. And Abba Kyari taking papers to London was it the right thing to do? do you think in a place where things works. That he can do such?

Maynman:


They Can’t give the same respect to a boss and to a representative, why is it then called a boss and representative??
All what you are saying is not recognized in the law!!

Mademan5:
ok, it's ok. I have seen your level of reasoning no need going further

Maynman:


Yes it is the right thing to do as the president. You can’t sign laws into power without the president.

How many bills has Vice President signed into law? Haven’t he represented Buhari begore?