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China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Smalloga: 8:01pm On Aug 03, 2022
I don't like war but I like reading about war.

Please, can someone explain the tanks below? Are they driving on water abi my eye dey pain me?

Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Tmberwolf1: 8:20pm On Aug 03, 2022
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Zonefree(m): 8:23pm On Aug 03, 2022
Tmberwolf1:
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.
Na so una misled Ukraine to their doom...Una don start with Taiwan again.


I no wan hear #PrayForTaiwan o

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Mattswaggz: 8:24pm On Aug 03, 2022
Tmberwolf1:
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.

The comparisons didn't include western weapons donations and others form of support...... you can include that now and weigh the odds again. grin

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Tmberwolf1: 8:27pm On Aug 03, 2022
Zonefree:

Na so una misled Ukraine to their doom...Una don start with Taiwan again.


I no wan hear #PrayForTaiwan o
Mumu like you... So ukraine should let themselves be invaded abi?

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Tmberwolf1: 8:41pm On Aug 03, 2022
Mattswaggz:


The comparisons didn't include western weapons donations and others form of support...... you can include that now and weigh the odds again. grin
Military interventions and difficult geography of Taiwan.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by ken6488(m): 8:58pm On Aug 03, 2022
Tmberwolf1:
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.
this is how you guys mislead Ukraine to destruction


Same Russia seizing territory?

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by seunny4lif(m): 12:55am On Aug 04, 2022
Tmberwolf1:
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.
Russia struggling with which Ukraine?
The same Ukraine that have lost over 25% of its land to Russia, that’s combined size of Wales and Scot.
Russia is fighting USA and Uk through Ukraine as over €60B have been spent on Ukraine by USA, UK and EU in just 5 months.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 11:51am On Aug 04, 2022
seunny4lif:

Russia struggling with which Ukraine?
The same Ukraine that have lost over 25% of its land to Russia, that’s combined size of Wales and Scot.
Russia is fighting USA and Uk through Ukraine as over €60B have been spent on Ukraine by USA, UK and EU in just 5 months.

Stop talking nonsense. Nobody is fighting Russia through anything. Ukraine that they won't even give rockets that can travel more than 80km, you say UK and USA is fighting Russia. 6 months of attrition, nothing come out, after boasting they can take Ukraine in 2 weeks

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by seunny4lif(m): 12:03pm On Aug 04, 2022
Ibime:


Stop talking nonsense. Nobody is fighting Russia through anything. Ukraine that they won't even give rockets that can travel more than 80km, you say UK and USA is fighting Russia. 6 months of attrition, nothing come out, after boasting they can take Ukraine in 2 weeks
Someone seized over 25% of your land and not only just any land but the most agricultural industrial area and took your industrial steel yet you called that failure.
Russia is not going to level eastern Ukraine to the ground as the planned to take it forever as eastern Ukraine is for Russian citizens unlike Syria or Georgia that Russians have no plan to stay there.

Check the recent videos of Mauripol and see how Russians have already started cleaning up the streets and building some of the apartments and fixing the hospitals.

Tell us what is success then?

grin grin
Tell that to EU that have spent billions of dollars on Ukraine and USA that said they have spent over 40B on Ukraine.
Ukraine is the new money sink hole after NATO withdrew from Afghan

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 12:11pm On Aug 04, 2022
seunny4lif:

Someone seized over 25% of your land and not only just any land but the most agricultural industrial area and took your industrial steel yet you called that failure.
Russia is not going to level eastern Ukraine to the ground as the planned to take it forever as eastern Ukraine is for Russian citizens unlike Syria or Georgia that Russians have no plan to stay there.

Check the recent videos of Mauripol and see how Russians have already started cleaning up the streets and building some of the apartments and fixing the hospitals.

Tell us what is success then?

grin grin
Tell that to EU that have spent billions of dollars on Ukraine and USA that said they have spent over 40B on Ukraine.
Ukraine is the new money sink hole after NATO withdrew from Afghan


You talking rubbish. Russia levelled Donbass in name of liberation, you say they didn't want to level. Mariupol that is 95% destroyed. By the way seperatists already controlled 10% of Ukraine before the war, so 15% gained in over 6 months now.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by compton11(m): 12:50pm On Aug 04, 2022
U wan compare sleep with death?
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by panafrican(m): 2:21pm On Aug 04, 2022
You are saying China only has 6,300 tanks and 7000 artillery pieces to defend a country with more than
1.4 billion
people ?
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:34pm On Aug 04, 2022
NATO ran away from Afghanistan farmers and spent over two trillion dollars there all for nothing.

No one wins at war that is the basic truth the one thing you can do is to take lands and that is only way you can show you have won something.

But at the end of the day no one wins any war.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Nobody: 4:12pm On Aug 04, 2022
Ibime:


Stop talking nonsense. Nobody is fighting Russia through anything. Ukraine that they won't even give rockets that can travel more than 80km, you say UK and USA is fighting Russia. 6 months of attrition, nothing come out, after boasting they can take Ukraine in 2 weeks

So where is the $60bn US awarded for them going to

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 4:50pm On Aug 04, 2022
atmy1:


So where is the $60bn US awarded for them going to

More than half is to keep their economy going and none is to match Russia rocket firepower or reach into Russian territory
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Nobody: 7:20am On Aug 05, 2022
At least 19 billion out of the 40 billion is going directly to buying arms for Ukraine while over 6 billion is to support NATO. This is in addition to $30m per day spent in the first five weeks of the conflict. This is only from the US, and excludes money and weapons supplied by other countries like UK, Poland, Germany etc. Remember, America also spent 8 years training and arming the Ukrainian army only for Russia to be decimating it slowly in a war of attrition.
Ibime:


More than half is to keep their economy going and none is to match Russia rocket firepower or reach into Russian territory

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 7:43am On Aug 05, 2022
atmy1:
At least 19 billion out of the 40 billion is going directly to buying arms for Ukraine while over 6 billion is to support NATO. This is in addition to $30m per day spent in the first five weeks of the conflict. This is only from the US, and excludes money and weapons supplied by other countries like UK, Poland, Germany etc. Remember, America also spent 8 years training and arming the Ukrainian army only for Russia to be decimating it slowly in a war of attrition.

Ok, so now you have come down from $60bln to $19bln. You are getting there. $8bln has been delivered so far mostly in small arms and defensive weapons.

When Putards finish talking rubbish about how they are facing NATO directly, let me know. Russia were wiped on the ground and had to resort to heavy artillery bombing from long range where they have advantage in order to make slow progress. Russia is firing rockets from hundreds of miles, even from submarines. Ukraine only just received rockets with limited range recently and these Putards are saying Russia is fighting NATO. If e sure una, attack a NATO country and see if you can hide behind rockets from hundreds of miles against an enemy with the same thing.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Dvdpity: 10:17am On Aug 05, 2022
Ibime:


Ok, so now you have come down from $60bln to $19bln. You are getting there. $8bln has been delivered so far mostly in small arms and defensive weapons.

When Putards finish talking rubbish about how they are facing NATO directly, let me know. Russia were wiped on the ground and had to resort to heavy artillery bombing from long range where they have advantage in order to make slow progress. Russia is firing rockets from hundreds of miles, even from submarines. Ukraine only just received rockets with limited range recently and these Putards are saying Russia is fighting NATO. If e sure una, attack a NATO country and see if you can hide behind rockets from hundreds of miles against an enemy with the same thing.


Keep talking. United States approved 40billion for Ukraine, which is almost equal to Russia military budget. Approved land lease for Ukraine which is almost 30 billion, EU has spent almost 10billion plus Japan, newszeland, Australia, with all the weapons pumped into Ukraine.
Ukrainian army is second only to Russia in terms of military size, and now the most equipped military in the whole of Europe aside russia.

Not forgetting all the intelligence from NATO and allies, even Poland send their best battalion into Ukraine, plus thousands of mercenaries, plus the media hype. Still russia is collecting their lands piece by piece and Ukraine is losing men at terrific rate.

And yes, MacGregor who was an American and former NATO chief said that NATO is fighting russia in Ukraine but are scared of Russia retaliation if they declared official war against Russia. NATO and USA is afraid of russia.

And let me tell you this. USA and her vessel States has already invested over 150 billion dollars in this conflicts, both official and unofficial transactions. In legal and illegal ways.

Now Ukraine has postponed their counter offensive to next year. Don't start what you cannot finish.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 05, 2022
The 60bn mentioned was an error it is actually 40bn.
Below is the approximate contributions towards the war in Ukraine

Ukraine: 8.3bn
US (direct military): 19bn
US(for NATO): 6bn
US(first 5 weeks): 30m per day *35days=1.05bn
US(economic, which still involves funding local manufacturing of weapons): 16bn
EU: roughly3bn
Germany: roughly 2bn
UK: roughly 2.7bn

Total: $58bn

I am not adding contributions from dozens of other countries like Poland, Baltic states, France, Japan, Canada etc, plus additional weapons and personally secretly channeled into Ukraine daily.

Russia's total annual military budget: $69bn

Now, Ukraine is using over 80% of its military capabilities to fight the war while Russia has not deployed more than 20%.

I believe the above analysis wil give you an idea of which side is wasting more resources and losing in the war.

Ibime:


Ok, so now you have come down from $60bln to $19bln. You are getting there. $8bln has been delivered so far mostly in small arms and defensive weapons.

When Putards finish talking rubbish about how they are facing NATO directly, let me know. Russia were wiped on the ground and had to resort to heavy artillery bombing from long range where they have advantage in order to make slow progress. Russia is firing rockets from hundreds of miles, even from submarines. Ukraine only just received rockets with limited range recently and these Putards are saying Russia is fighting NATO. If e sure una, attack a NATO country and see if you can hide behind rockets from hundreds of miles against an enemy with the same thing.


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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 5:37pm On Aug 05, 2022
atmy1:
The 60bn mentioned was an error it is actually 40bn.
Below is the approximate contributions towards the war in Ukraine

Ukraine: 8.3bn
US (direct military): 19bn
US(for NATO): 6bn
US(first 5 weeks): 30m per day *35days=1.05bn
US(economic, which still involves funding local manufacturing of weapons): 16bn
EU: roughly3bn
Germany: roughly 2bn
UK: roughly 2.7bn

Total: $58bn

I am not adding contributions from dozens of other countries like Poland, Baltic states, France, Japan, Canada etc, plus additional weapons and personally secretly channeled into Ukraine daily.

Russia's total annual military budget: $69bn

Now, Ukraine is using over 80% of its military capabilities to fight the war while Russia has not deployed more than 20%.

I believe the above analysis wil give you an idea of which side is wasting more resources and losing in the war.


A military includes chefs, logistics, navy , Airforce etc

What Russia has in Ukraine is the limit of their powers that's why they are releasing prisoners, begging Syrians, North Koreans etc to add to their manpower. Those chefs, Navy etc are irrelevant to their fight, and they still have internal security/borders to man with what's left of their infantry

Ukraine pommelled Russia on the ground game, Russia simply retreated to where Ukrainian rockets can't reach and used their long range rockets to pound the Ukrainians to clear areas before advancing their infantry. They should try that with any NATO country with the same range of rockets, mumu say Russia is facing strength of NATO in Ukraine. NATO that refused to give Ukraine long range rockets that would reach anywhere in Russia just to avoid Russia pushing nuclear button. Even as of now, only $8bln in military aid has reached Ukraine, mostly for defensive weapons until only 16 Himars reached recently, Putard say Russia is facing NATO. Foolish talk

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:15pm On Aug 05, 2022
This one is in pains.
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Nobody: 3:17am On Aug 06, 2022
Ukraine is winning. They pummelled Russia and defeated them. Clap for yourself.
Ibime:


A military includes chefs, logistics, navy , Airforce etc

What Russia has in Ukraine is the limit of their powers that's why they are releasing prisoners, begging Syrians, North Koreans etc to add to their manpower. Those chefs, Navy etc are irrelevant to their fight, and they still have internal security/borders to man with what's left of their infantry

Ukraine pommelled Russia on the ground game, Russia simply retreated to where Ukrainian rockets can't reach and used their long range rockets to pound the Ukrainians to clear areas before advancing their infantry. They should try that with any NATO country with the same range of rockets, mumu say Russia is facing strength of NATO in Ukraine. NATO that refused to give Ukraine long range rockets that would reach anywhere in Russia just to avoid Russia pushing nuclear button. Even as of now, only $8bln in military aid has reached Ukraine, mostly for defensive weapons until only 16 Himars reached recently, Putard say Russia is facing NATO. Foolish talk

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Nobody: 3:22am On Aug 06, 2022
Despite putting their own civilians in danger to trap the Russians they are still losing. They will continue to lose and there is nothing anybody can do about it unless keep denying it untill it is no more possible to deny. Even AI that is a western institution can't avoid the truth anymore.
Ibime:


A military includes chefs, logistics, navy , Airforce etc

What Russia has in Ukraine is the limit of their powers that's why they are releasing prisoners, begging Syrians, North Koreans etc to add to their manpower. Those chefs, Navy etc are irrelevant to their fight, and they still have internal security/borders to man with what's left of their infantry

Ukraine pommelled Russia on the ground game, Russia simply retreated to where Ukrainian rockets can't reach and used their long range rockets to pound the Ukrainians to clear areas before advancing their infantry. They should try that with any NATO country with the same range of rockets, mumu say Russia is facing strength of NATO in Ukraine. NATO that refused to give Ukraine long range rockets that would reach anywhere in Russia just to avoid Russia pushing nuclear button. Even as of now, only $8bln in military aid has reached Ukraine, mostly for defensive weapons until only 16 Himars reached recently, Putard say Russia is facing NATO. Foolish talk

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Ibime(m): 9:04am On Aug 06, 2022
atmy1:
Ukraine is winning. They pummelled Russia and defeated them. Clap for yourself.

You are very foolish. Nobody said Ukraine is winning. I said Russia simply retreated to where Ukraine missiles can't reach and outranged them with rockets. They should try that with any NATO country since you claimed Russia is facing the strength of NATO in Ukraine.
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Jokerman(m): 11:19am On Aug 06, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
This one is in pains.


So to you, USA is afraid of Russia or what??

We both Know USA are not that heartless, many of you would be living in caves by now
Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:40am On Aug 06, 2022
Jokerman:


So to you, USA is afraid of Russia or what??

We both Know USA are not that heartless, many of you would be living in caves by now
. Research on how Russia dealt with Hitler then you will really know who is more powerful.

When you see a nation as big as Russia not making noise like USA in the world stage you will know why they don't blink or boast.

Till date the most deadly nuke belongs to Russia.

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Re: China Vs Taiwan Military Comparisons (picture) by leofab(f): 12:16am On Aug 07, 2022
Tmberwolf1:
All these comparisons were made for russia against ukraine, yet russia still dey struggle with ukraine... The task China is about to undertake is far too much for them to handle, let them respect themselves and just sit at home.
could have been worst if they don’t have land boarder.. moving equipment through sea and landing them in enemy territory during hostility is not easy..

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