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The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 3:13pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Mathew 7:15-17 Jesus (Blessed Be His Name) said to the crowd: Beware of false prophets, who [will] come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do people gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? Even so every good tree bring forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.............................................................................. The Founder Of Islam Who Claimed To Be A Prophet Slept With A Dead Woman Kanz al-‘Ommal in Sunan al Aqwal wa al-Af’al vol 16, pg 158 The prophet of allah took off his gown and put it on Om Ali and slept with her in her grave and they kicked dirt on him, saying: ‘Oh messenger of allah, we saw you do something no one else has ever done.’ He said: ‘I dressed her in my gown, so she can wear the gowns of paradise and I slept with her in her grave to relieve her of the torments of the grave.'” She was the best of allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib. The two Arabic words ( ataja' ma'ha ﺍﺿﻄﺠﻊ ﻣﻌﻬﺎ ) which is translated above as "slept with her" are indeed used in Arabic to mean "intercourse." This is similar to the English idiom "to lay with her," which can literally mean nothing more than laying down with a woman, but often is a reference to intercourse. More than a few Muslim clerics have made this linguistic observation. The Arabic scholar Demetrius explains: The Arabic word used here for "slept" is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "lay down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a “mother of the [Muslims].” This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since the [unbelievers] believed that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. “Relieve of the torments” here means that the torment won’t be as much because she is now a “mother of the Muslims" after Muhammad slept with her and “consummated” the union. .............................................................................. Of course, brethren, we expect the mohammadans to deny this: but it isn't their job to deny or agree with anything. That is the job of their ulema: the scholars and clerics devoted to learning the doings and sayings of the founder of islam. Thus, the real question: Do the ulema agree or deny that necrophilia is permissible in Islam? Well, let's hear them speak... Abd Al-Hameed Al-Sharawani, Howashi al-Sharwani- Al-Qubra, Egypt: Al-Maktabah Al-Tojariah, 1983, vol 1, pg 263 There is no need to rewash a dead woman if her husband has sex with her after she dies….And there is no punishment for anyone who has sex with a dead woman or limits sex to sex with a dead woman.” Mohammad Al-Sherbini Al-Khateeb, Al-Iqna3 fi Hal al-Faz: Abu Shoja’a Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1994, vol 2, pg 521 There is no restriction against sex with a dead woman or an animal.Even animals... Islam's four orthodox schools of jurisprudence (or madhahib al-fiqh ) -- namely, al-Hanafi, al-Hanbali, al-Maliki, and al-Shafi'i-- implicitly permit necrophilia. None of them actually address it on its own; rather, they give it a nod when it comes up in the context of other topics. In the section on adultery, the Maliki teaching is this: Sharh Mukhtasar al-Khalil In al-fiqh al-Maliki In 2011 a Moroccan cleric and founding member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, Sheikh Abdul Bari Zamzami, issued a fatwa permitting the Muslim husband to copulate with his dead wife. He prefaced his decree by saying that, although he does not necessarily approve of this act, it is not for him to ban what Islam permits. As proof, he cited the aforementioned rulings of Islam's schools of jurisprudence. <-Source Following are excerpts from an interview with Moroccan cleric Abd Al-Bari Al-Zamzami, a member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, and from an address delivered by Al-Zamzami.At least he admitted, albeit accidentally, that the founder of Islam was a mentally or psychologically unbalance man. In April 2012, when the Muslim Brotherhood's Muhammad Morsi was president of Egypt, the Islamist Egyptian parliamentarians tried to pass a law to make intercourse with dead people legal. <-Source In late 2017, Sheikh Sabri Abdul Raeuf, a professor at Egypt's Al Azhar, the Islamic world's most prestigious madrassa, during a televised show in Egypt, when asked if it is permissible for a husband to penetrate his wife after death. He replied : "It is not favorable in Islam; however the Islamic law considers it as Halal," meaning "permissible," not a sin or crime. <- Source Bizarre they wanted the investigation to focus on the medias for reporting on the interview, but not on the interviewee. Afghan former policewoman reveals Islamic Taliban routinely has intercourse with dead women. <-Source ............................................................................. The mohammadans are taught to love their false prophet absolutely, that he was the perfect being, and to live life the way he lived his. Sahih Bukhari 15 Therefore, brethren, it shouldn't surprise you that many of them live life the way their beloved false prophet lived his. Below are some examples: A Muslim was arrested for having intercourse with the corpse of a baby girl and other women. <-Source Kasim Khuram, 23, forced his way into a Co-op undertakers before violating a dead body at around 1.40am on November 11 last year (2018).Even dead babies aren't safe. No surprises, the living ones aren't safe either: In Islam it is permissible to use breast-feeding baby girls for sexual pleasure. <-Source In Islamic Pakistan it isn't uncommon for them to steal the corpses of newly dead women from their graves, and molest and copulate them. <-Source 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by fykes(m): 3:24pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Can only be demonic and satanic 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by obiekunie01: 3:36pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
oh boy!! the world is truly in trouble with this head slamming psychos! That book is truly the book of evil! 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by sagenaija: 8:17pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Empiree, Lukgaf, Rashduct4luv, Antichristian, motayoayinde, mhmsadyq, haekymbahd or Realismailakabir is this your religion? Seriously? 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by tctrills: 8:44pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
I would love Empiree, and Antichristian to shed more light on this. Do Muslims have sex with corpses? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Ravenna: 8:51pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Islamabad wallah 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by motayoayinde: 8:54pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
tctrills: THIS ACTUALLY DOESN'T DESERVE ANY RESPONSE. BUT IT APPEARS YOUR QUESTION IS IN GOOD FAITH. SO THE ANSWER IS A BIG, FLAT HELL NO! |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by tctrills: 8:58pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
motayoayinde:Yes they are free not to respond. I believe in freedom of speech but those 2 guys are very active on the religious platform and they would be the best to explain the Muslim position. Now when you say hell no, are you saying that the OP fabricated the event, that it never happened or are you saying that his narrative is correct but the interpretation is wrong? 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by motayoayinde: 9:11pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
tctrills: YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS FALSE, UNFOUNDED AND STRANGE. 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by godliman: 9:39pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
fykes:It is 100℅ satanic. There is no vice that is not permissible. I read about sex with sheep, sex with water melon or cucumber etc 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Ovacoma: 9:54pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Islam is full of unimaginables! This is just one of the hundreds of reasons muhaMad man cannot be from The God of Israel. Many more horror events like this are recorded about the self acclaimed prophet. The shameless and gullible followers will soon come to defend the false prophet since they have lost their sense of reasoning. 4 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by sagenaija: 10:22pm On Aug 07, 2022 |
Ovacoma:Even when you quote their sources these guys will deny it. In most cases they run by what they think their religion should be rather than by what the books tell them. They seem to have simply blinded themselves to the truth of their religion. 7 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Nobody: 7:18am On Aug 08, 2022 |
The more you get to know about this pervert, the more sick he gets. And the more you understand why his followers are also sick in the head. 6 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by AntiChristian: 8:24am On Aug 08, 2022 |
Answering the Fallacious Claim of Necrophilia Compiled, Translated & Annotated Abu Khuzaimah Ansari The ignorant people of other faiths, in their emotionally filled rants and outbursts against Islām allege the Messenger of Allah (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) slept with the body of Fātimah bint Asad RaḍiAllāhū ʿAnha based on the wording of this ḥadīth. Such horrible claims are often regurgitated by people who follow and believe in Christianity. This is an outright lie and a desperate attempt to discredit Islām, such claims are often raised by people who have not read anything about Islām and rather just take some information from websites, who extend most of their efforts to concoct fallacious allegations against Islām. This treacherous claim rests on the words فاضطجع They claim the word means to sleep, lay down ie he lay down with Fātimah bint Asad to have sex with her and this Arabic word is often used to denote to lie down and sleep with someone. We seek refuge in Allāh from such lies and aspersions. Āmīn Answer Firstly: we have shown this ḥadīth is weak in the preceding discourse, but let’s assume for arguments sake that it was authentic, then; Secondly: The word اضطجع means to lie, lie down, recline, repose and sleep according to the well known Arabic dictionaries. It does not mean to sleep or to lay down for sex. This is also the word the Christians use in their Arabic translation of the Bible. Hence, they say وَدَخَلَ أَلِيشَعُ الْبَيْتَ وَإِذَا بِالصَّبِيِّ مَيْتٌ وَمُضْطَجعٌ عَلَى سَرِيرِهِ. [And when Elisha was come into the house, behold, the child was dead, and laid upon his bed. (2Kings 4:32) Kings James Version). So one asks, does the word laid here also mean, ‘lay to have sex?’ Of course it does not! Then why is this meaning specified and restricted to the ḥadīth only. Thirdly: the wording of the ḥadīth clearly mentions the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) entered the grave after it was dug and the body of Fātimah bint Asad RaḍiAllāhū ʿAnha had not been lowered into the grave. The Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) lay in the grave after it was dug by his companions. The grave had a Laḥd, which is a horizontal opening in the vertically dug grave. The Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) also dug the grave and the Laḥd after which he lay in it. Thereafter, he stood up and eventually the body was lowered into the grave. It should therefore be noted; the body was lowered into the grave after he stood up – the body was not even in the grave when he was lying down in it! What kind of necrophilia was this? We presume the claimants can further shed some light on this matter, for the claimants are likely to know the reality and details of necrophilia the best, perhaps from experience in the modern Christian atheistic world, because surely one only accuses others of things they have experience, practice and knowledge about. So we ask again? How is the alleged incident even possible when the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) did not even lie next to the body, unless the detractors have developed other forms of sex!!! Again, this would not be surprising because this is what happens when you abandon your scriptures by distorting the divine message they contained. The wording of the report further shows the great care and love the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) had for Fātimah bint Asad RaḍiAllāhū ʿAnha, the alleged wording says, “When camphor water was brought, Allāh’s Messenger (Peace Be Upon Him) poured some water into his hands. Then Allāh’s Messenger (Peace Be Upon Him) took off his shirt and clothed her with it and used his own sheet of cloth as her coffin.” This showed the love and care the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) had for her due to her status. The detractors show more affection and care for animals and dogs and regularly bathe them, how about Fātimah bint Asad RaḍiAllāhū ʿAnha, who was his paternal aunt and looked after him just like his mother! At what expense is the human mind and intelligence being carelessly wasted. Fourthly: another indication which shows the futility of this repulsive allegation is the fact that the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) used his shirt and wrapped it around her and then used his own sheet of cloth as her coffin, the words are, “Then Allāh’s Messenger (Peace Be Upon Him) took off his shirt and clothed her with it and used his own sheet of cloth as her coffin.” Again, a sane, upright and normal human being asks, why would a person use their own shirt to wrap the corpse of his paternal aunt – a mother like figure, then use his own sheets as her coffin, then dig her grave with his own hands, then lie in her grave and supplicate to the creator to forgive and have mercy on her (allegedly as the ḥadīth is weak), then to have her lowered in the grave, then unfasten the coffin sheets and shirt and then indulge in necrophilia? Absolutely preposterous! We would like to exercise our common sense by using our brains and minds, given to us by our creator and ask, what were the other companions doing during this incident of necrophilia? Why do this in the grave and not on the ground if they were looking? These people have no idea about the stature, uprightness and credibility of the illustrious companions, that they would allow someone to do such a heinous act in front of them. The companions were powerful, they were Ūsāmah bin Zayd, Abū Ayyūb al-Anṣārī, ʿUmar bin al-Khaṭṭāb and the Abyssinian companion, May Allāh be pleased with all of them. Who does not know the lofty credentials of ʿUmar bin al-Khaṭṭāb, that even satan was forced to change paths when he would see him due to his, principles, morals, standards, character and firm belief. That the likes of these companions just stood there and watched this evil incident to unfold. Fifthly: the detractors should know in Islām purification and cleanliness play a pivotal role in the daily life of Muslims. For example, Muslims are instructed to hold their private parts with their left hand because they have been instructed to eat with their right. They are instructed to sit down while relieving themselves, they are instructed to protect themselves and their clothes from urine and faeces, they are instructed to clean themselves with water, they are instructed to wash their hands everytime they relieve themselves, they are instructed to conceal their private parts from others and much more. The Muslims were given these instructions by the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam), whose words in the Religion are taken as divine texts, ie from the Prophetic Ḥadīth. This said, the rules, regulations and etiquettes for sexual intercourse between legally married partners in Islām require a greater level of purification and cleanliness. The point being, on another occasion the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) asked his companions to help lower a body into a grave, and he asked them if any of them were in a state of sexual impurity, ie if they had spent the night with their lawful wives. One of the companion who was in a state of sexual impurity was asked not to help in lowering the body (Bukhārī). This honours the deceased, ie the people who help lower the deceaseds body are in a state of ritual purity and clean. So when a person is in a state of sexual impurity and he is not allowed to partake in lowering the deceased, then how about the act of sexual intercourse with a corpse! Let alone the rules and regulations Muslims have when it comes to intimacy and intercourse. We mentioned examples of how Muslims uphold purification and cleanliness while relieving themselves and at the same token the clever people who regurgitate these treacherous lies about the Messenger of Allāh (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallm), are the same people who do not even wash their hands when they go to the toilet, they have cascades of urine droplets on their clothes and toilet seats. They are the same people who would not bathe for weeks, just less than 100 years and when they would bathe, the whole family would use the water, whereas our glorious Prophetic Divine teachings go back 1400 years. Therefore, it is absolutely absurd and a despicable aspersion to even suggest this notion of necrophilia, which is an outright treacherous lie. Share this and receive reward. https://www.salafiri.com/answering-the-fallacious-claim-of-necrophilia/ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Ovacoma: 8:45am On Aug 08, 2022 |
Usual long lies. 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by sagenaija: 9:53am On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian: ISLAM SPEAKS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUTH. It is interesting that you run to the Bible when it is convenient for you but then turn around to claim that it is 'corrupted' when it exposes your lie. How do you guys find it so convenient to do that? The writer you brought left the hadith in question and went to"on another occasion". This is to subtly divert attention away from the explaining the issue at hand. We can see through that. When it will not serve your purpose a hadith becomes weak. When it will it becomes usable. How come Islam has not decided to jettison the hadiths it thinks are inauthentic? If they are questionable why retain them? Even if we are to accept this man's line of argument, why do you guys have all these strange and conflicting and convoluted stories about this 'prophet' who is supposed to be your best example? What is the Moslem supposed to learn from Mohamed here? Is it to also do the same with a dead dearly loved one? Why is it that for every single issue in Islam you guys have dozens of positions? And this was supposed to be the CLEAR guidance to mankind? You've ended up buying into TALES FROM ARABIA and wallowing in it without reasoning. 6 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by AntiChristian: 10:02am On Aug 08, 2022 |
sagenaija: Mumbo Jumbo as usual! I think the treatise answered you and other "Holy Spirit" filled falsehood peddlers well. Read it and Reread it. Get a pail! Your eyes are pale! Wail as you ail. Your lies and hypocrisy are busted! |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by AntiChristian: 10:14am On Aug 08, 2022 |
sagenaija: Islam still remains the one and only way despite the lies and falsehood Christians peddle! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by MindHacker9009(m): 3:44pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
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Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by sagenaija: 5:07pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian: When did quoting from your books become a lie? When you guys are unable to give a reasonable response you resort to underhand tactics. Let me ask you another question you'll still not be able to answer: Were all those who narrated all the stories about Mohamed including the hadiths in particular inspired by Allah? Let's have your answer. 3 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 6:21pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Of course, brethren, we expect the mohammadans to deny this: but it isn't their job to deny or agree with anything. That is the job of their ulema: the scholars and clerics devoted to learning the doings and sayings of the founder of islam. Thus, the real question: Do the ulema agree or deny that necrophilia is permissible in Islam?We heard them speak, and they said it is permissible. 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 6:25pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You called your Islamic scholars liars and hypocrites. You should be ashamed of yourself. 3 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 6:29pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian:I agree. It remains the one and only way to dead women private part. despite the lies and falsehood Christians peddle!Islamic Scholars say in islam it is permissible to copulate dead people. 4 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Ovacoma: 6:46pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Without lies Islam dies! 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by mhmsadyq(m): 7:44pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
sagenaija: Throwing stones at every dog that barks at you is a waste of time and efforts! Continue barking while we move! 4 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by motayoayinde: 8:27pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
AntiChristian: THIS SHOULD DO FOR ANY SANE PERSON. BUT ISLAMOPHOBES ARE NOT. JAZAAKALLAH 2 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 8:33pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
mhmsadyq: Make sure you don't move into the vaginas of dead women, alright! 3 Likes |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by BetterHeadline: 8:46pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
motayoayinde: You say islamophobe as if it is wrong. By the way, islamophobes arent the ones going around to molest and copulate dead people. 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by mhmsadyq(m): 9:13pm On Aug 08, 2022 |
BetterHeadline: The heart that can conceive this can only be the heart of a Christian- rotten soul. 1 Like |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by Ovacoma: 4:25am On Aug 09, 2022 |
motayoayinde:HOW CAN A SANE PERSON DEFEND MUHAMAD MAN WHO IS CONSIDERED THE BEST OF MANKIND AND BEST EXAMPLE TO MUMUSLIMS? CAN YOU DO WHAT HE DID AND STILL BE CONSIDERED A SANE PERSON? EG. MARRYING A 9 YEARS OLD GIRL, SLEEPING WITH SLAVES, RAPING CAPTURED WOMEN AFTER KILLING THEIR HUSBANDS AND RELATIVES, LUSTING AFTER AND TAKING YOUR SON'S WIFE, KILLINGS, SLEEPING WITH 9 WOMEN IN ONE NIGHT, ETC, AND STILL BE CONSIDERED A SANE PERSON? BESIDES, THE STORIES ARE ALL FROM YOUR OWN SOURCES. WHY NOT GO AND BURN THE WEAK HADITHS OR DROWN THEM AS USUAL IF YOU FIND THEM UNACCEPTABLE? |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by AntiChristian: 9:46am On Aug 09, 2022 |
Ovacoma: Islam abi Christianity? The books of the Bible were initially written and copied by hand on papyrus scrolls. No originals survive. Is the "Bible" not a lie? |
Re: The Founder Of Islam Laid With A Dead Woman by AntiChristian: 9:57am On Aug 09, 2022 |
BetterHeadline: We don quote verse where Elisha laid with dead boy! [And when Elisha was come into the house, behold, the child was dead, and laid upon his bed. (2Kings 4:32) Kings James Version). The word used in the Hadith is "laid" too not copulate as you devilish liar said! |
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