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Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by MasterJayJay: 6:35pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
The authorities of the Nigerian Railway Corporation (NRC) have said that whereas the Corporation barely earns up to N1.7m per day, it uses about 24,000 litres of diesel daily for the Lagos- Ibadan route, amounting to about N4 million. Source> https://saharareporters.com/2022/09/18/lagos-ibadan-train-nigerian-railway-spends-about-n4-million-diesel-alone-daily-makes-n17 1 Like
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Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by mrvitalis(m): 6:38pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
I remember predicting this thing ...years back .. infrastructure doesn't really kick start development it complement it this was what Peter Obi was arguing with osibanjo in 2019 now see the results Speed rails are too expensive to run can never break even in a country as poor as we for now !!!! What we needed was effective locomotive rail from Ibadan to the ports in Lagos to move containers $150 million would have achieved that Their is a rail from warri to lokoja ...it should have been locomotive from warri port to Abuja , with branch off to Onitsha and imo state From onne to aba then to Enugu then to Jos and Maiduguri All the Above can be achieved with 600 million dollars max if we have an effective government 1.5 billion dollars wasted I mean over 1 trillion Naira If proforce and innoson where given 100 billion each to expand production they would have employed twice what this rail line would employ 1 billion to 100 cocoa clusters to build cocoa processing plants ban exportation of raw cocoa we only export cocoa powder and butter with would double value in a taxable business This are the simple things Peter Obi is talking about ...we don't have much but we can effectively use what we have better So today it's obvious Peter Obi was right osibanjo was wrong ....won't you still vote Peter Obi ? 232 Likes 18 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by iamwilliamsfx(m): 6:40pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Wahala.. How much would be the fee for train transportation zi 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by KingKO22: 6:42pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Ok |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Nobody: 6:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Everyday problem |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Blue3k(m): 6:48pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
interesting even with Cargo traffic the rails are running at a loss. I'm not surprised about passengers rail considering they subsidize below market value like other things. 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Peterobi90: 6:48pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Can't boxcars be attached to the trains behind to carry cargo?.. is it only a passenger train? Add oil tanks aswell... drag the trains to profit. If it was a a personal business, would anyone consider running such a loss? 34 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by mrvitalis(m): 6:54pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
iamwilliamsfx:The fee should be around 50k to break even In Europe I read is over £1.5 per 10 km that's around 10k per 10km 1k per km ... Lagos to Ibadan is 130km ...that's 130,000 naira ...say labour cost is cheaper hear so we should get 60% cheaper ..based on that Lagos to Ibadan in a high speed train should cost 78k for it to make any profit and pay off its debt So when Peter Obi was arguing with osibanjo in 2019 this was what he was talking about we are not yet ripe for rail ...you can't borrow to fund projects that can't break even and pay for themselves 52 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Cantonese: 6:59pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Please I do not understand what these people are trying to say. “ On how the NRC was sourcing funds to sustain its operations, Okhiria said, “In the 2022 budget, the.government provided about N500m for diesel, which barely lasts up to a month for rail services across the country. “We also search for funds from other sources, such as property rents and others. So, we use it to augment what we earn from the train services. See, it has been a serious headache, I won’t lie to you. It has been stressful and the NRC is owing for diesel, but we cannot stop.” If railways were built to make profits from loans obtained from China, how is it that government provided 500m for diesel in the 2022 budget? What is government’s business with providing funds for diesel if the NRC was set out for profit making in the first place? Why do they have to source for funds for diesel from everywhere? As a government organization, is it not possible to make arrangements with the NNPC to get regular supply of diesel at cheaper costs, rather than “suppliers”? Please at this rate, how will Nigeria pay off loans obtained from the Chinese? Is it not common sense that since diesel charges alone amount to 4.4m daily, prices have to be increased to make profit? Are railways built for to score cheap political goals? One may not doubt that diesel and maintenance has become a veritable source of looting by civil servants in the NRC and politicians. When will Nigeria get out of the grip of corruption? 39 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by funshint(m): 6:59pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
It seems things has been in comatose in NRC since Amaechi left. Hmmn Hausa has taken over...expect redundancy. That's their trade mark wherever they head. 47 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by iamwilliamsfx(m): 7:05pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
mrvitalis: I thought train is the cheapest means of transportation 6 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by mrvitalis(m): 7:12pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
iamwilliamsfx:Not speed trains. They are just faster than planes( if u add boarding time , checkin time ,and check out ) reason it makes sense Google sha 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Cantonese: 7:16pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
mrvitalis: Those are not high speed trains bro. Nigeria cannot afford those ones yet. 25 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by mrvitalis(m): 7:29pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Cantonese:Those are standard gauge trains similar to what u have in Europe ...high speeds ( billet Trains ) are mostly in Asia 25 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Cantonese: 7:40pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
mrvitalis: Exactly. The Ibadan trains originally were thought to run at approximately 150 km/ph. However they presently run at 60km/ph. The ones by Lagos state government should run at 335km/ph. They are way faster and should be costlier. 5 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by nkemoma(m): 7:41pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
There was a country.... Zoogeria... Nothing good can come out of bad leaders 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by inoki247: 7:41pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
lol I neva see Govt wey dey clueless and daft reach diz present Govt... wetin suppose dey generate revenue instead he dey waste revenue.... Nigeria no dey ripe for all this thing true true cos we want everything to be subsidized.... 19 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by SpatialKing(m): 7:41pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Those making noise about Lagos Ibadan rail being an infrastructure Guess what is about to be abandoned like Abuja Kaduna rain Build infrastructures that are self sustainable and essential Resort Ajaokuta steel company A bigger deep sea port in Akwa Ibom Renovate the roads 29 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by FuckSilly: 7:41pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Wow betide you foolish old leaders and these fool ani fools in government. In most countries in Europe where they don't have crude oil, train transport is almost free even if you're traveling to heaven. You tell us that you import petrol and put subsidies, no problem. We all know the truth. But what about diesel? DIESEL IS THE EASIEST FUEL TO REFINE FROM CRUDE OIL It's so easy that 70% of what Niger Delta boys refine and cook up daily is DIESEL!!! How is it possible that you fools are telling us now that you run at loss? 35 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Tonypen247(m): 7:42pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Hmm 1 Like |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by daveP(m): 7:42pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Are these guys so dumb they didn't plan this minute details when embarking on this project from the get go?? The fact that this is surprising them, gives that conclusion. Wait, did he just reference the Ukraine War? Other oil countries like Saudi are cashing out due to the current oil boom , sotey they wan build a new city with top infrastructure. We are still here, bunkering and vandalizing. If things were going the right way, half like Saudis, minimum wage will effortlessly be 100k and it won't affect any coffers. But no So this deficit made them to reduce some trips? Okay. One will be quick to blame insecurity, but this is lack of proper planning. 14 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by stano2(m): 7:42pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Wahala plenty for this country |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by SouthSouth1914: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Nigeria is a joke! Always putting the cart before the horse! 12 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by ATLIEN2027: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Mos of the people commenting here are very ignorant of world realities. The fact is that most public transportation around the world don't make anything close to their operations cost not to talk of profit. Especially a new rail system that's just getting off the ground cannot break even anytime soon. Most private businesses don't even break even in the beginning not to talk of a public business. Do you guys even think that most buses and train systems in Europe and the US are breaking even or even making any money? Most will go out of business without govt subsidies and allocations. Couple this world reality with the Nigerian factor of bribe and corruption. Everyone working at the train station is already thinking of how to pocket the ticket fee instead of giving it to the govt. Employ some of these youths on NL and their number goal is to get rich from one scam or the other at the train stations.... 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by 989900: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
You rely on imported petroleum products . . . these are one of the results: destitute wey buy calendar, where he wan hang am? 20 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Peterobi90: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Hmm 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Nwaomaah: 7:43pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
Remember when Abuja-Kaduna train passengers were kidnapped? It was discovered that there were more passengers not on the manifest than those in it. 1000 passengers enter train and all buy tickets. 300 tickets are remitted and 700 pocketed. That's also how our airline died, our refineries, our ships etc etc Corruption will be the end of us all 29 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Zico5(m): 7:45pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
These people in government are truly insane. Who are they complaining to. At least Buhari promised to build one refinery every year for the duration of year he will spend in government. Where is the promise. If the only achievement of this government which they termed railway revolution is not sustainable then they should close market. And least railway is just secondary mean of transportation. Truly Buhari is a calamity. Anything he touches become a curse. 10 Likes |
Re: Lagos-Ibadan Train: NRC Spends More On Diesel Daily, Running At A Loss by Nobody: 7:45pm On Sep 19, 2022 |
mrvitalis: Before you guys type mumbo-jumbo, try to reason for yourselves for once. That rail project is an outdated and overdue infrastructure, something you can never find anymore in developed countries. The major reason why they seem to be running at a loss is low patronage and the current price of diesel, nothing else. There is no country in the world where government-owned transport infrastructure is seen as strictly for-profit, it's meant to ease the lives of citizens and facilitate movement of goods and services in the country, the ripple effects are then a good business/trading ecosystem and creation of jobs which would lead to more taxes for the government. That explanation you gave above is too myopic and limited in scope. 10 Likes 1 Share |
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