Evangelical Christians are fond of telling people that everyone on the face of the earth MUST believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, alongside repentance from sin.
They often emphasize, without mincing words, that if one does not accept Christ irrespective of his or her good works, morality or religious affiliation/standing, such a one will end up in eternal doom.
How do you as a non Christian feel about this gospel of the evangelical Christians?

FreedomfromtheT:
■ Evangelical Christians are fond of telling people that everyone on the face of the earth MUST believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, alongside repentance from sin.
■ They often emphasize, without mincing words, that if one does not accept Christ irrespective of his or her good works, morality or religious affiliation/standing, such a one will end up in eternal doom.
■ How do you as a non Christian feel about this gospel of the evangelical Christians?

1. But these evangelicals lie because Jesus Christ only said He came to save only those who are the Lost sheep of Israel. I guess your evangelicals do not in fact believe in Jesus Christ.

2. Another lie spread by your evangelicals using the name of Jesus Christ who instead said that Eternal life belongs only to those who believe in Him meaning that one cannot experience eternal [/b]doom outside of Jesus Christ - [b]Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46. According to the Evangelion of Jesus Christ Himself, all who will meet their end in eternal doom will all be in fact born-agains meaning that those who do not believe in Him at all will in no way be impacted by eternity let alone eternal doom. Again, your evangelicals clearly do not believe in Jesus Christ.

3. Evangelicals are deluded individuals consumed by the lies and delusions that are the doctrines and traditions of their pastors and mogs rather than the man Jesus Christ. They do not know God nor do they have anything to do with God.

Kobojunkie:
1. But these evangelicals lie because Jesus Christ only said He came to save only those who are the Lost sheep of Israel. I guess your evangelicals do not in fact believe in Jesus Christ.

2. Another lie spread by your evangelicals using the name of Jesus Christ who instead said that Eternal life belongs only to those who believe in Him meaning that one cannot experience eternal [/b]doom outside of Jesus Christ - [b]Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46. According to the Evangelion of Jesus Christ Himself, all who will meet their end in eternal doom will all be in fact born-agains meaning that those who do not believe in Him at all will in no way be impacted by eternity let alone eternal doom. Again, your evangelicals clearly do not believe in Jesus Christ.

3. Evangelicals are deluded individuals consumed by the lies and delusions that are the doctrines and traditions of their pastors and mogs rather than the man Jesus Christ. They do not know God nor do they have anything to do with God.

You are wrong.

Kobojunkie:
1. But these evangelicals lie because Jesus Christ only said He came to save only those who are the Lost sheep of Israel. I guess your evangelicals do not in fact believe in Jesus Christ.

2. Another lie spread by your evangelicals using the name of Jesus Christ who instead said that Eternal life belongs only to those who believe in Him meaning that one cannot experience eternal [/b]doom outside of Jesus Christ - [b]Matthew 25 vs 40 - 46. According to the Evangelion of Jesus Christ Himself, all who will meet their end in eternal doom will all be in fact born-agains meaning that those who do not believe in Him at all will in no way be impacted by eternity let alone eternal doom. Again, your evangelicals clearly do not believe in Jesus Christ.

3. Evangelicals are deluded individuals consumed by the lies and delusions that are the doctrines and traditions of their pastors and mogs rather than the man Jesus Christ. They do not know God nor do they have anything to do with God.

Forget the evangelicals. Have you separated yourself from your family? Do you hate them?


The Cost of Being a Disciple

25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

FreedomfromtheT:
You are wrong.

Yet another lie you evangelicals tell people is that once they are born-again, they receive the Holy Spirit. That lie has led so many of living a deluded existed convinced they are of God when in fact God is far from their reality. The fact of the Gospel, from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself in John 3 vs 1 - 21, is that the actual Spirit that born-agains are born of Spirit from is the Spirit of Eternal Life, not the Spirit of Truth. He clearly explained this when He differentiated the life you get get from your mother's womb from that you get from being born of the Spirit of Life Himself. Jesus Christ also went on to explain that being born of the Spirit of Life is a possession by a power one not only wields no control over - John 3 vs 5 - 8 - but also a power with not focused in one direction--- those headed to hell will all also need to first be born of spirit.

I believe evangelicals are part and parcel of the antichrist religion that teaches lies in place of the Truth of God and lures the ignorant away from following the Truth of God, Jesus Christ.

KnownUnknown:
Forget the evangelicals. Have you separated yourself from your family? Do you hate them?
The Cost of Being a Disciple
25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

Yes!

Kobojunkiee:
Yes!

How have you separated yourself from your family?
Do they know you hate them?

KnownUnknown:
How have you separated yourself from your family?
Do they know you hate them?

Why do you care so much as to want to know?

FreedomfromtheT:
Evangelical Christians are fond of telling people that everyone on the face of the earth MUST believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, alongside repentance from sin.
They often emphasize, without mincing words, that if one does not accept Christ irrespective of his or her good works, morality or religious affiliation/standing, such a one will end up in eternal doom.
How do you as a non Christian feel about this gospel of the evangelical Christians?

Honestly, I don't feel Okay. I Love People, I think God loved them more. Jesus is the Only way but He himself promised to appear to those that don't look for him. .

I think they would meet him one day and even in death they would be converted and make Heaven.

SilasIBB:
■ Honestly, I don't feel Okay. I Love People, I think God loved them more. Jesus is the Only way but He himself promised to appear to those that don't look for him. I think they would meet him one day and even in death they would be converted and make Heaven.

Where in scripture do you get this idea of yours from?

Kobojunkiee:
Why do you care so much as to want to know?

I want to know because you answered yes to the previous question.

KnownUnknown:
I want to know because you answered yes to the previous question.

They are aware and they are unable to do anything about it.

SilasIBB:




Honestly, I don't feel Okay. I Love People, I think God loved them more. Jesus is the Only way but He himself promised to appear to those that don't look for him. .

I think they would meet him one day and even in death they would be converted and make Heaven.

I think I understand how you feel.
Yes, God loves all sinners. That is why Christ died, not just for sinners who are associated with the Christian religion but the whole sinful humanity.
That is also why no matter one's background and irrespective of how far or deep any has gone into wickedness and unrighteousness, God still forgives if the person genuinely repents.
God has been appearing to those that don't look for Him in various ways. While some are taking advantage of God's open Arms, others keep taking His mercy for granted.
Please make no mistake about this: there is no conversion, repentance or salvation after death.
Thank you.

KnownUnknown:


Forget the evangelicals. Have you separated yourself from your family? Do you hate them?


The Cost of Being a Disciple

25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

You misinterpreted the scriptures.
Hatred is a sin, so Jesus Christ Who commanded His disciples to love even their enemies and persecutors can never ask same followers to hate their family and relatives.
The context of Christ's message is that any true disciple of His must love Him above all else, including his own self.
Thank you.

FreedomfromtheT:
Evangelical Christians are fond of telling people that everyone on the face of the earth MUST believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, alongside repentance from sin.
They often emphasize, without mincing words, that if one does not accept Christ irrespective of his or her good works, morality or religious affiliation/standing, such a one will end up in eternal doom.
How do you as a non Christian feel about this gospel of the evangelical Christians?

It's not about evangelical rather Jesus himself said it! John 3:16

When i first heard it as a Muslim back then i felt something is wrong with all Christians but when the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) expatiate on it i can't argue further because i realized it's indisputable fact!

FreedomfromtheT:
■You misinterpreted the scriptures. Hatred is a sin, so Jesus Christ Who commanded His disciples to love even their enemies and persecutors can never ask same followers to hate their family and relatives.
■The context of Christ's message is that any true disciple of His must love Him above all else, including his own self. Thank you.

1. Here's what Jesus Christ said that you are probably not aware of since you churchians do not practice this at all.
A. For you to be worthy of Him, Jesus Christ, you must abandon your family ties, your wealth/property, your positions/business — life—, etc. He urged you to count the cost before you approach Him to become one of His own.

25 Many people were traveling with Jesus. He said to them,
26 “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower.You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters—even more than your own life!
27 Whoever will not carry the cross that is given to them when they follow me cannot be my follower.
28 “If you wanted to build a building, you would first sit down and decide how much it would cost. You must see if you have enough money to finish the job.
29 If you don’t do that, you might begin the work, but you would not be able to finish. And if you could not finish it, everyone would laugh at you.
30 They would say, ‘This man began to build, but he was not able to finish.’
31 “If a king is going to fight against another king, first he will sit down and plan. If he has only 10,000 men, he will try to decide if he is able to defeat the other king who has 20,000 men.
32 If he thinks he cannot defeat the other king, he will send some men to ask for peace while that king’s army is still far away.
33 “It is the same for each of you. You must leave everything you have to follow me. If not, you cannot be my follower. - Luke 14 vs 25 - 33

B. He came to cause a rift between you and your family as prophesied even in Micah 7 vs 1 - 6 that He will cause your enemies to be those in your very own family/home.

34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.
35 I have come to make this happen: ‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.
36 Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37 “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38 Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39 Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life. - Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39

C. Those who abandon relatives — father, mother, children, wife, husband, brother, sister —, belongings/property, respect/reputation, etc. for his sake are those who are blessed by Him.

29 Jesus said, “I can promise that everyone who has left their home, brothers, sisters, mother, father, children, or farm for me and for the Good News about me
30 will get a hundred times more than they left. Here in this world they will get more homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and farms. And with these things they will have persecutions. But in the world that is coming they will also get the reward of eternal life.
31 Many people who have the highest place now will have the lowest place in the future. And the people who have the lowest place now will have the highest place then.” - Mark 10 vs 29 - 31

C.2 So, yes, Jesus Christ meant it when He said you should abandon your earthly ties to your relatives including your offspring, to embrace instead that which He has prescribed in other to become worthy of Him.

28 Jesus said to them, “When the time of the new world comes, the Son of Man will sit on his great and glorious throne. And I can promise that you who followed me will sit on twelve thrones, and you will judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 Everyone who has left houses, brothers, sisters, father, mother, children, or farms to follow me will get much more than they left. And they will have eternal life.
30 Many people who are first now will be last in the future. And many who are last now will be first in the future. - Matthew 19 vs 28 - 30

D....

46 While Jesus was talking to the people, his mother and brothers stood outside. They wanted to talk to him.
47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are waiting for you outside. They want to talk to you.”
48 Jesus answered, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?” .
49 Then he pointed to his followers and said, “See! These people are my mother and my brothers.
50 Yes, anyone who does what my Father in heaven wants is my true brother and sister and mother.” - Matthew 12 vs 46-50

E....

31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers came. They stood outside and sent someone in to tell him to come out.
32 Many people were sitting around Jesus. They said to him, “Your mother, your brothers, and your sisters are waiting for you outside.”
33 Jesus asked, “Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?”
34 Then he looked at the people sitting around him and said, “These people are my mother and my brothers!
35 My true brother and sister and mother are those who do what God wants.” - Mark 3 vs 31-35

F....

19 Jesus’ mother and brothers came to visit him. But they could not get close to him, because there were so many people.
20 Someone said to Jesus, “Your mother and your brothers are standing outside. They want to see you.”
21 Jesus answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who listen to God’s teaching and obey it.” - Luke 8 vs 19 - 21

G. The same Jesus Christ told you that you are no longer to call any man on earth your father.

8 “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher.
9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven.
10 And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah. 11 Whoever serves you like a servant is the greatest among you.
12 People who think they are better than others will be made humble. But people who humble themselves will be made great. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 12

So, clearly, Jesus Christ meant it when He urged you to disavow/abandon/hate your earthly family in order to embrace instead the new ties that are of the Kingdom of God. Yes, you will love them all as you love your enemies and your neighbors but your family is no longer those of the earth once you enter into the Kingdom of God but those who are of the Kingdom of God. And your father, no longer your earthly father or any other man for that matter but the Father up in Heaven.

2. The context of the declarations made by Jesus Christ is the Kingdom of God, and those who are citizens of that domain are required to abide by His Law — His teachings and commandments, not seek ways to wrought different twists on His Truth i.e. your many interpretations that allow you to continue to live in denial of HIs truth while you hide yourselves behind the many mentions of His name.

Kobojunkie:
1. Here's what Jesus Christ said that you are probably not aware of since you churchians do not practice this at all.
A. For you to be worthy of Him, Jesus Christ, you must abandon your family ties, your wealth/property, your positions/business — life—, etc. He urged you to count the cost before you approach Him to become one of His own.

B. He came to cause a rift between you and your family as prophesied even in Micah 7 vs 1 - 6 that He will cause your enemies to be those in your very own family/home.
C. Those who abandon relatives — father, mother, children, wife, husband, brother, sister —, belongings/property, respect/reputation, etc. for his sake are those who are blessed by Him.
C.2 So, yes, Jesus Christ meant it when He said you should abandon your earthly ties to your relatives including your offspring, to embrace instead that which He has prescribed in other to become worthy of Him.
D....
E....
F....
G. The same Jesus Christ told you that you are no longer to call any man on earth your father.
So, clearly, Jesus Christ meant it when He urged you to disavow/abandon/hate your earthly family in order to embrace instead the new ties that are of the Kingdom of God. Yes, you will love them all as you love your enemies and your neighbors but your family is no longer those of the earth once you enter into the Kingdom of God but those who are of the Kingdom of God. And your father, no longer your earthly father or any other man for that matter but the Father up in Heaven.

2. The context of the declarations made by Jesus Christ is the Kingdom of God, and those who are citizens of that domain are required to abide by His Law — His teachings and commandments, not seek ways to wrought different twists on His Truth i.e. your many interpretations that allow you to continue to live in denial of HIs truth while you hide yourselves behind the many mentions of His name.

Mcheeeeeeeeew!

MaxInDHouse:


It's not about evangelical rather Jesus himself said it! John 3:16

When i first heard it as a Muslim back then i felt something is wrong with all Christians but when the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) expatiate on it i can't argue further because i realized it's indisputable fact!

What makes Jehovah's witnesses the true 'Christians' according to you?

FreedomfromtheT:
What makes Jehovah's witnesses the true 'Christians' according to you?

Why not focus on the topic of discussion?

Would you like to know the truth about Jesus being the only way?

JWs proved beyond every reasonable doubt that Jesus is the only way, you don't even need the book (Bible) to prove that all you need is IDENTIFY Jesus' true disciples then compare the movement with all other religions on this planet! Matthew 7:16-18

Kobojunkiee:
Where in scripture do you get this idea of yours from?

Why are you always picking on people? 🙄

SilasIBB:
■ Why are you always picking on people? 🙄

1. How is asking a question akin to picking on one abeg?

FreedomfromtheT:
You misinterpreted the scriptures.
Hatred is a sin, so Jesus Christ Who commanded His disciples to love even their enemies and persecutors can never ask same followers to hate their family and relatives.
The context of Christ's message is that any true disciple of His must love Him above all else, including his own self.
Thank you.

First of all, “love your enemies” is the scam employed by people who want to subjugate others without struggle. Loving your enemies is just stupid. If love is involved they wouldn’t be your enemy in the first place.

Second of all, you only succeeded in painting the magical jew as some cult leader who wants you to place him above everything else. Kind of narcissistic and kind of psychotic.

The context of the magical Jew’s message is that you people need to ask forgiveness from the god of the Hebrews. The repulsive, psychotic, murderous god of the Hebrews. That’s a freaking joke.

KnownUnknown:


First of all, “love your enemies” is the scam employed by people who want to subjugate others without struggle. Loving your enemies is just stupid. If love is involved they wouldn’t be your enemy in the first place.

Second of all, you only succeeded in painting the magical jew as some cult leader who wants you to place him above everything else. Kind of narcissistic and kind of psychotic.

The context of the magical Jew’s message is that you people need to ask forgiveness from the god of the Hebrews. The repulsive, psychotic, murderous god of the Hebrews. That’s a freaking joke.

One can be your enemy without you being the person's enemy.
Jesus Christ, the only Saviour of the world taught that Christians, His followers should love their enemies and persecutors.
Obviously, you are not one of His followers. So the message is not for you until you become His. But for now, you are on your way to eternal doom.

FreedomfromtheTpost=122987097:
One can be your enemy without you being the person's enemy.

If you don’t consider the person your enemy why refer to him as enemy?

FreedomfromtheTpost=122987097:

Jesus Christ, the only Saviour of the world taught that Christians, His followers should love their enemies and persecutors.

Who is their enemy and how are they their enemies?

What’s so horrific about Christian persecution that is different from all other miseries mankind inflict on each other for various reasons?
What about the people Christians have persecuted and continue to persecute?
You Christians love to strike blows while yelling out loud in faux pain.

FreedomfromtheTpost=122987097:

Obviously, you are not one of His followers. So the message is not for you until you become His.

Perpetual slaves they have made you lot.

FreedomfromtheTpost=122987097:

But for now, you are on your way to eternal doom.

Oh yeah? The almighty leprechaun will put you and the magic Jew in eternal Dachau.

FreedomfromtheT:
Mcheeeeeeeeew!

As expected.... since your god has not explained this, it is of no value to you, I see.