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Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Deen4me(m): 7:23pm On Oct 01, 2011
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Bill Clinton: Netanyahu isn't interested in Mideast peace deal
Former U.S. President says a cynical perspective of Prime Minister's calls for negotiations 'means that he's just not going to give up the West Bank'.
By Haaretz


Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is responsible for the inability to reach a peace deal that would end the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, former U.S. President Bill Clinton said on Thursday.
Speaking on the sidelines of the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York, the former U.S. president was quoted by Foreign Policy magazine as claiming that Netanyahu lost interest in the peace process as soon as two basic Israelis demands seemed to come into reach: a viable Palestinian leadership and the possibility of normalizing ties with the Arab world.
"The Israelis always wanted two things that once it turned out they had, it didn't seem so appealing to Mr. Netanyahu," Clinton said, adding that Israel wanted "to believe they had a partner for peace in a Palestinian government, and there's no question -- and the Netanyahu government has said -- that this is the finest Palestinian government they've ever had in the West Bank."
Furthermore, the former U.S. president is quoted by Foreign Policy as saying that Israel was also on the verge of being recognized by Arab nations adding that the "king of Saudi Arabia started lining up all the Arab countries to say to the Israelis, ‘if you work it out with the Palestinians , we will give you immediately not only recognition but a political, economic, and security partnership."
"This is huge, It's a heck of a deal," Clinton said, adding: "That's what happened. Every American needs to know this. That's how we got to where we are."
"The real cynics believe that the Netanyahu's government's continued call for negotiations over borders and such means that he's just not going to give up the West Bank," he added.
Clinton also said he felt the Palestinians would accept the deal rejected by former PA President Yasser Arafat in 2000 negotiations with then Prime Minister Ehud Barak, saying that Palestinian leaders "have explicitly said on more than one occasion that if [Netanyahu] put up the deal that was offered to them before -- my deal -- that they would take it."
"For reasons that even after all these years I still don't know for sure, Arafat turned down the deal I put together that Barak accepted," he was quoted by Foreign Policy as saying. "But they also had an Israeli government that was willing to give them East Jerusalem as the capital of the new state of Palestine."
Clinton also added, as to the chances of Mideast peace being achievable in the foreseeable future, in light of past failures, saying that the "two great tragedies in modern Middle Eastern politics, which make you wonder if God wants Middle East peace or not, were [Yitzhak] Rabin's assassination and [Ariel] Sharon's stroke."
Clinton's comments come as a Palestinian delegation headed by Abbas is planned to officially submit its statehood bid to the United Nations later Friday, with both Palestinian President Abbas and Prime Minister Netanyahu scheduled to address the General Assembly.
Despite heavy pressure from the West, Abbas remained determined to formally apply for UN recognition of a Palestinian state Friday.
U.S. President Barack Obama met with Abbas Thursday night in an effort to convince him not to seek Security Council recognition, warning that the U.S. would use its veto power to block it. Lower-level American officials also met with Abbas several times, but to no avail.

Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, reiterated on Thursdays that Abbas' statehood bid will not contribute to the peace process and will merely delay the start of negotiations - which, she added, are the only way the Palestinians can actually achieve independence.
American officials also continued their effort to mobilize enough Security Council votes to defeat the statehood bid without a U.S. veto. Germany has already announced it won't vote yes, and Rice said she is convinced other countries will do the same. America, she said, is not the only country to realize that the UN gambit is unproductive.

Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Nobody: 7:33pm On Oct 01, 2011
why should the PM give in to terrorist groups like Hamas? on pe. clinton is entitled to his opinion. PM benjamin knows what hes aiming for. lets keep our fingers crossed. infact no matter what happens at the end even if two states were created, to get the UN recognition being agitated for, would still be a mirage. pathetic. that what u get when terrorist are allowed in ur country
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by LagosShia: 7:51pm On Oct 01, 2011
toba:

why should the PM give in to terrorist groups like Hamas? on pe. clinton is entitled to his opinion. PM benjamin knows what hes aiming for. lets keep our fingers crossed. infact no matter what happens at the end even if two states were created, to get the UN recognition being agitated for, would still be a mirage. pathetic. that what u get when terrorist are allowed in your country

how did you reach the conclusion that Hamas is a "terrorist" group while israel is not a terrorist state? is it because america under zionist politics calls hamas a terrorist group so the entire human race must accept that?

what is wrong with you? please explain your finding.
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Sweetnecta: 2:23am On Oct 02, 2011
@Toba; whats is wrong with a people wanting to have a homeland?
the Jews who successful did it, against the wishes of many, are the jews more than mere mortals?

is your exaggerated love for Jesus disallowing you to realize what is just between two disputing parties?
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Nobody: 10:58am On Oct 02, 2011
Hamas has targeted and killed many civilians.
The group has conducted violent action against Israeli military and civilian targets, including suicide bombings. Hamas has been named a terrorist organization by the United States and the European Union. It is supported by the governments of Syria and Iran and many wealthy private individuals in Saudi Arabia, among others in the Arab world.


i dont know what more description u want from me after the above one i just gave to u
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by LagosShia: 12:08pm On Oct 02, 2011
toba:

Hamas has targeted and killed many civilians.

these people you're refering to as civilians,are the same people responsible for the displacement of millions of palestinians from their land.true or false? these people know that they are from other continents and their presence in palestine results in the displacement and ethnic cleansing of others.why did they accept to be part of that scheme?

would you as a yoruba man accept the people of benin (in edo state) to lay claim to yoruba land because the benin kingdom ruled over the southwest and then import benin people from all over the world to settle in your land? would you fold your hands and kiss those people when they come to occupy your house and drive you out? what would you do dear sir?

still yet,i have not mentioned the many more crimes committed by the zionist settlers themselves and not only by the israeli military.


The group has conducted violent action against Israeli military and civilian targets, including suicide bombings. Hamas has been named a terrorist organization by the United States and the European Union. It is supported by the governments of Syria and Iran and many wealthy private individuals in Saudi Arabia, among others in the Arab world.

i dont know what more description u want from me after the above one i just gave to u

the americans fought for independence and they were celebrated as freedom fighters.

the french also did and they are called freedom fighters.you find every people on earth has taken up arms to defend themselves and protect the land of their origin and their ancestors from time immomorial.why is it when the palestinians take up arms against an international conspiracy to dispossess them,they are called "terrorists"?these are a weak people fighting for survival.they are facing the most sophisticated weapons and bombs made in america that the zionists are using to kill them.when they use their "hunting" tactics for freedom,the entire world get brainwashed by american propaganda and call them "terrorists".there is a difference between a terrorist group like al-qaeda that has hijacked the image of muslims,and a resistance and freedom fighting group like hamas or hezbollah who are fighting on their lands for the freedom of their own people against occupation.when nigerians learn that difference all things will be as clear as day light.

when the americans vote for a war criminal like george bush,that is democracy.but when palestinians voted for hamas in the most democratic election the middle east has witnessed,the west sanctions them and refuse to talk to them.is that democracy? who is the terrorist here?

the USA calling others terrorists for defending themselves,in the american constitution grant americans the right to bear arms and defend themselves in a "well regulated militia".i.e.a militia/resistance movement like hamas.what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Deen4me(m): 2:26pm On Oct 02, 2011
@ Toba Kindly refer to the site below for more insight into the conflict

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Nobody: 7:59pm On Oct 02, 2011
op i can equally refer u to a number of sites with a different view about the conflict. what matters is the true interpretation of whats on ground. No one wants to negotiate with a terrorist group
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by Sweetnecta: 8:38pm On Oct 02, 2011
^ put the yorubas in each group for example.

if the yorubas are the jews, will you be happy at the actions of the youbas?

if the yorubas are the palestinians will you be happy at the actions of the youbas?


please answer directly. and if you wish to explain, let see where your heart lies.
Re: Bill Clinton: Netanyahu Isn't Interested In Mideast Peace Deal by LagosShia: 8:43pm On Oct 02, 2011
toba:

op i can equally refer u to a number of sites with a different view about the conflict. what matters is the true interpretation of whats on ground. No one wants to negotiate with a terrorist group

Oga,

you neva tell us na wetin make those people "terrorist".

or dem mama born dem terrorist?  undecided undecided undecided undecided

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