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Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Nobody: 6:05pm On Oct 19, 2011
"Evangelist Jesus Christ is among the most exciting and respected ministers in Jerusalem today. Also a highly successful entrepreneurial carpenter from Nazareth, he has pioneered a highly successful school of discipleship and has traveled the world to perform stupendous miracles and propound theological exegesis. He is the author of the bestsellers Sermon on the Mount; Parable of the Sower; and our Lord’s Prayer! In addition, he has performed several chart-topping miracles, including feeding 5000, raising the dead, extracting money from the mouth of a fish, walking on water and healing the sick. His weekly temple program, Father’s work, appears at the main temple in Jerusalem with several satellite programs in Nazareth, Capernaum, Samaria and. Evangelist Christ is the founder and pastor of christianity, one of the fastest-growing faiths in the world, where he pastors an interracial congregation of more than 1 billion members."

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Have you ever wondered why billboards that supposedly advertise christian programs have the largest space reserved for the face of the "host pastor"? Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have PA's, booking officers, iPad/iPhone apps, flashy websites that describes them more than the message they claim to be spreading?
Ever wondered why every single minister today has written a book that they plug far more than the bible itself? Ever wondered why the "info" section for facebook ministers is a disgusting tome on how important they think they are?

Indeed we are in the last days.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Jenwitemi(m): 6:22pm On Oct 19, 2011
Davidylan, haven't you just told lies to magnify another man(Jesus) just like the modern day pastors do? What is the difference between you and them?
davidylan:

"Evangelist Jesus Christ is among the most exciting and respected ministers in Jerusalem today. Also a highly successful entrepreneurial carpenter from Nazareth, he has pioneered a highly successful school of discipleship and has traveled the world to perform stupendous miracles and propound theological exegesis. He is the author of the bestsellers Sermon on the Mount; Parable of the Sower; and our Lord’s Prayer! In addition, he has performed several chart-topping miracles, including feeding 5000, raising the dead, extracting money from the mouth of a fish, walking on water and healing the sick. His weekly temple program, Father’s work, appears at the main temple in Jerusalem with several satellite programs in Nazareth, Capernaum, Samaria and. Evangelist Christ is the founder and pastor of christianity, one of the fastest-growing faiths in the world, where he pastors an interracial congregation of more than 1 billion members."
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Nobody: 6:30pm On Oct 19, 2011
Jenwitemi:

Davidylan, haven't you just told lies to magnify another man(Jesus) just like the modern day pastors do? What is the difference between you and them?

actually i took that from the forward to a book by a popular "man of gawd" then modified it to read like what a biography of Christ would read in our day. That was a parody my friend.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Nobody: 6:32pm On Oct 19, 2011
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Daiquiri: 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2011
frosbel:


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Loving that signage

- DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Nobody: 10:28pm On Oct 19, 2011
@OP. If Jesus had a standard face, I'm sure they'd use it.
However we're not allowed to create images of God. The only image of God we have been cleared to use is OURS.

As to the PA thing, you sound like someone who is either a low-level employee or a student so you have NO IDEA how busy people of a certain level get. You would need to hire someone whose job it then becomes to sort out and order your schedule for you while you focus on the more important things. Remember how burnt-out Moses got when he was trying to do everything himself? You then become "too busy for God", which is the last thing any MOG needs.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Joagbaje(m): 6:34am On Oct 20, 2011
davidylan:

"Evangelist Jesus Christ is among the most exciting and respected ministers in Jerusalem today. Also a highly successful entrepreneurial carpenter from Nazareth, he has pioneered a highly successful school of discipleship and has traveled the world to perform stupendous miracles and propound theological exegesis. He is the author of the bestsellers Sermon on the Mount; Parable of the Sower; and our Lord’s Prayer! In addition, he has performed several chart-topping miracles, including feeding 5000, raising the dead, extracting money from the mouth of a fish, walking on water and healing the sick. His weekly temple program, Father’s work, appears at the main temple in Jerusalem with several satellite programs in Nazareth, Capernaum, Samaria and. Evangelist Christ is the founder and pastor of christianity, one of the fastest-growing faiths in the world, where he pastors an interracial congregation of more than 1 billion members."

So what's the point of this mockery?

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Have you ever wondered why billboards that supposedly advertise christian programs have the largest space reserved for the face of the "host pastor"?

It's common sense in advertising. Ask experts. What would you rather prefer?

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have PA's, booking officers,

It's common sense. What's your own. A man with many appointments need to organise himself. So that appointments don't clash.

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have iPad/iPhone apps,

What on earth! Are they not meant for human beings.  cool. What do you want them to use? Slate?

Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have flashy websites that describes them more than the message they claim to be spreading?

What is wrong with the "flashy" should they pay money to get a dull looking website ?
Ever wondered why every single minister today has written a book that they plug far more than the bible itself?
Are they bible printers. What is wrong in a man circulating his book. Didn't Paul circulate his messages. Why didn't he circulate the scriptures rather. Na wa for religious men o.

Ever wondered why the "info" section for facebook ministers is a disgusting tome on how important they think they are?
What is your own ? At least they are doing something.Focus on your own assignment.

1 Peter 4:15
15 But let none of you suffer as a. . busybody in other men's matters.


Indeed we are in the last days.

That's the more reason you should rather focus on the great commission instead of criticising others.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by newmi(m): 7:49am On Oct 20, 2011
davidylan:

"Evangelist Jesus Christ is among the most exciting and respected ministers in Jerusalem today. Also a highly successful entrepreneurial carpenter from Nazareth, he has pioneered a highly successful school of discipleship and has traveled the world to perform stupendous miracles and propound theological exegesis. He is the author of the bestsellers Sermon on the Mount; Parable of the Sower; and our Lord’s Prayer! In addition, he has performed several chart-topping miracles, including feeding 5000, raising the dead, extracting money from the mouth of a fish, walking on water and healing the sick. His weekly temple program, Father’s work, appears at the main temple in Jerusalem with several satellite programs in Nazareth, Capernaum, Samaria and. Evangelist Christ is the founder and pastor of christianity, one of the fastest-growing faiths in the world, where he pastors an interracial congregation of more than 1 billion members."

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Have you ever wondered why billboards that supposedly advertise christian programs have the largest space reserved for the face of the "host pastor"? Have you wondered why so-called "ministers" of God now have PA's, booking officers, iPad/iPhone apps, flashy websites that describes them more than the message they claim to be spreading?
Ever wondered why every single minister today has written a book that they plug far more than the bible itself? Ever wondered why the "info" section for facebook ministers is a disgusting tome on how important they think they are?

Indeed we are in the last days.
Pls l mean no disrespect but l have spent a good portion of my early hours reviewing your post yet am still thinking what exactly is the point or sense the person intends to get across the table.
is your offence directed towards Pastors or churches maximizing today's technologies for the gospel or perhaps is the manner the maximization is being done?
come straight and let us reason together.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by Nobody: 3:21pm On Oct 20, 2011
Why don't you worry about your own work in the Kingdom? If you were busy doing what you should be doing you won't have time sit and be judge and jury of the brethren.

The accuser of the brethren is having a field day  working within you OP.
Check yourself and beware.

Your topic has no point but to steer people away from perhaps their point of salvation. A lost soul reading this, not understanding that you are simply partnering with the devil to do his work of keeping people back from the cross, would refuse to attend such events, ultimately missing their chance to hear the message God intended to use to bring them to repentance that day.

These things will be on your head, so stop trying to do the work of the devil. . . Unless of course you're one of his agents? undecided
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by wordtalk(m): 9:53am On Oct 22, 2011
newmi:

Pls l mean no disrespect but l have spent a good portion of my early hours reviewing your post yet am still thinking what exactly is the point or sense the person intends to get across the table.

O dear me! I don't understand why this very simply thread has generated such concern. Misunderstanding, maybe?

The OP has said that it was a parody, not a parade -

davidylan:

actually i took that from the forward to a book by a popular "man of gawd" then modified it to read like what a biography of Christ would read in our day. That was a parody my friend.

Yes, nicely put. Sometimes I sense the message in a preaching or teaching is very quickly lost and buried along the line when the 'gawds' switch over to impress us with their curriculum vitae.
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by newmi(m): 10:36am On Oct 22, 2011
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Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by newmi(m): 10:44am On Oct 22, 2011
,2 Timothy 3:1-2
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, ,
The prophecy is that in the last days men shall be lovers of their own selves for the reason being that PERILOUS TIMES SHALL COME.
The. amplified version gives a clearer picture "2 Timothy 3:1
1 BUT UNDERSTAND this, that in the last days will come( set in) perilous times of great stress and trouble[ hard to deal with and hard to bear]"
in fact the Newliving Translation says that in the last days it is that going to be very difficult to be Christian.

why is this so well first of we are in the last days and due to the magnitude of stress, hardship and the pressure that life 's daily demands makes on us many people would become too busy trying to solve their problem such that it would only take the pureness and selfless love of Christ Jesus which is spread abroad in our hearts to spear moments of concentrating on our own needs and lend a helping hand to some else
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by wordtalk(m): 11:04am On Oct 22, 2011
^^ I think when the Bible speaks about perilous times, it goes beyond people finding it difficult to lending a helping hand to other folks.

The point, I think, that the OP wanted to highlight is that men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:2). In a nutshell, even those who claim to be working for the Lord are too preoccupied with loving themselves - and the parody tries to highlight the issue with an unspoken question: should genuinely called servants of Christ focus so much on themslves? Is there not something wrong with the phenomenon of ministers competing to show off themselves in massive billboards and other media as if that is the message itself of Christ?
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by newmi(m): 11:24am On Oct 22, 2011
There is no better time in the history of man that best describes what the last days epitomise especially when we into retrospect the current state of economic turmoil and financial disarray the global market has progressively and helplessly deteriorate to such that nation who before were enviable models to emulate but have become nothing but a mere shadow of their past living the of the pack with nothing to be desired.
No one excepted we need to be sensitive the leadership of God's to prompt us serving a check for on order to avoid falling prey to this spirit of the last days, which summed up in SELFISHNESS.
Yes selflessness is the broad name because we kill, steal, cheat, betray, victimize and oppress others all because of selfishness. Even selfishness is the reason commit suicide and are proud.
Selfishness is manifesTed when credence and gratification preferably accorded "self" instead of "love"
Re: Men As Lovers Of Themselves by newmi(m): 12:33pm On Oct 22, 2011
wordtalk:

^^ I think when the Bible speaks about perilous times, it goes beyond people finding it difficult to lending a helping hand to other folks.

The point, I think, that the OP wanted to highlight is that men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:2). In a nutshell, even those who claim to be working for the Lord are too preoccupied with loving themselves - and the parody tries to highlight the issue with an unspoken question: should genuinely called servants of Christ focus so much on themslves? Is there not something wrong with the phenomenon of ministers competing to show off themselves in massive billboards and other media as if that is the message itself of Christ?
You know what l concur but my little concern is simple which is why must we always find ways to narrow matters in the direction of pastors and men of God which in most case eight out ten are unnecessary. Now this is not to displace the possibility for such to happen within the church but to narrow it always in that direction is simply suggesting that there are no true pastors or church learder. Selfishness shows up everywhere and with everyone including me and you but it is the grace of God that enable us to tame thatdesire to want vent our selfishness.
Philippians 2:13
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of[ his] good pleasure.

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