ImoleNaija:


Hell get GPS coordinates?

Hell is a location na

Racoon:
https://www.thecable.ng/flight-diversion-united-nigeria-pilots-werent-familiar-with-nigerian-terrain-says-keyamo/amp

Thank you very much for telling us the truth at last. You must also sanction the airline for the unnecessary and obvious lie they expounded in their press release

pocom35:


See what this one is saying... airplanes collide mid air?
Or is it because of cheap data y'all just come and comment anything?

It's obvious the pilot mistook Asaba for Abuja and that was where they flew to from the very beginning..

Aircrafts can collide mid air

Resetinc:
Empty head minister,

Planes are equipped with GPS and pilots input their routes/destination to the gps which draws a line on a map, and they follow that line to their destination. If your plane doesn't have GPS, then a tablet or even your phone can run an app that does about the same thing, at least for visual flight rules….there is also ILS system that picks signals and guides pilots on approach , you don’t have to be a Nigerian to fly an airplane in Nigeria you empty head barrister, We have Control towers that communicate and monitor flight with radio assistance, and onboard inertial reference systems…
What the hell is a fvcking lawyer doing in the aviation ministry?? this country eeh!!

Being an aviator myself, I thought it was the DUMBEST excuse ever. I was so shocked at the minister's response, I couldn't think of a reply

SmartyPants:



What you sre saying is what he said. But for some reason you people cant read.

The airline initially lied that it was due to bad weather. Keyamo is exposing them.

Come on!

Nobody cares to read dumb things coming from nigeria, they are all crap and annoying.
I just read headlines.
So the headline is deceiving..
Trust me nothing about nigeria news is inspiring, educative and worth spe ding time reading.

With this deep info, I want to believe you are a pilot, and if you're not, I salute your knowledge.

Resetinc:
Empty head minister,

Planes are equipped with GPS and pilots input their routes/destination to the gps which draws a line on a map, and they follow that line to their destination. If your plane doesn't have GPS, then a tablet or even your phone can run an app that does about the same thing, at least for visual flight rules….there is also ILS system that picks signals and guides pilots on approach , you don’t have to be a Nigerian to fly an airplane in Nigeria you empty head barrister, We have Control towers that communicate and monitor flight with radio assistance, and onboard inertial reference systems…
What the hell is a fvcking lawyer doing in the aviation ministry?? this country eeh!!

Chaii ever since this man joined the Thiefinubu team, he has become nothing but a slowpoke.

A lawyer aviation minister

Sorry is this man okay? like from 30-33,000 ft, the pilot will be looking out of the window

post=127209505:
..... rightly so.
This shouldn't be swept under the carpet.
Thank God no life was lost

de there de wait for broom and carpet

AK89:
Sorry is this man okay? like from 30-33,000 ft, the pilot will be looking out of the window

good question

SmartyPants:



What you sre saying is what he said. But for some reason you people cant read.

The airline initially lied that it was due to bad weather. Keyamo is exposing them.

Come on!

what is he exposing? is it in the sky at 30,000 feet that you will know Nigerian terrain?

Goalnaldo:
True I remember the former minister of education adamu adamu admitting he knew nothing about the educational sector prior to his appointment by buhari 😂😂

although you need professionals or people with technical knowledge to head most ministries, its not really a problem if an outsider is appointed provided the outsider is patriotic and sees the appointment as an opportunity to serve and is ready to learn what it takes to deliver. In nIgeria, that unfortunately isnt the case

DrChukki:


My brother, our appointments here is not for you to function... It's for compensation.

Whether you're skilled in that area or not, provided you played a role to bring the president to power, you automatically qualify to become a minister.

Can't you see that a journalist is the minister or Solid Minerals... In a country with thousands of Geoscience Professionals

you are absolutely correct.

although you need professionals or people with technical knowledge to head most ministries, its not really a problem if an outsider is appointed provided the outsider is patriotic and sees the appointment as an opportunity to serve and is ready to learn what it takes to deliver. In Nigeria, that unfortunately isnt the case

Neoteny7:
This is absolute nonsense.

All pilots file their flight plan and receive instructions for waypoints/beacons as well as altitude, speed, and heading. They're also very visible with their transponder and on primary radar.

How on earth could he have flown all by himself from Lagos to Asaba without an emergency being declared?

I tire o. I thought, I was the one.

post=127209547:

Ignorance is no excuse,
A pilot shouldn't be flying in a terrain he knows nothing about.
We hope they have learnt their lessons now.

You must not comment sha.

Ignorance is no excuse but even you are guilty of same here.

Keyamo should have kept his mouth shut and you should have done same oo.

Thank you.

Neoteny7:
This is absolute nonsense.

All pilots file their flight plan and receive instructions for waypoints/beacons as well as altitude, speed, and heading. They're also very visible with their transponder and on primary radar.

How on earth could he have flown all by himself from Lagos to Asaba without an emergency being declared?

Even the minister does not know what you know.
How these idiots get these appointments is shocking to be honest.

Imagine what a minister of aviation uttered from his mouth.

Tufiakwa

Oga, you're not talking to fools. What has terrain got to do with missing your direction?
What happened to their Flight Instruments?

Na Road dem follow? Even if na Road, Google map dey.

The truth of the matter has NOT been told.

Again, if you no get the question let me ask you again....GPS on your cell phone at 30000 feet na lie.... First and foremost all GPS on cell phones use land, rail and ferry trails.... Not air.


Let's stop providing wrong information on public forum...stop

AroundYou:


There is Gps even above 100,000Feet. GPS signal is different from CellPhone Signal

As usual, most of the comments on this issue are ignorant.
The minister only exposed the lie earlier churned out by the airline.
And what he said is consistent with what some investigative journalists said earlier.
What most of you guys fail to realise is that the pilots are given codes for their destination.
Abuja is ABV while Asaba is ABB. This is where the problem originated.
Someone mistakenly typed or clicked ABB instead of ABV,
And the pilots were misled to think that they were heading to Asaba.
That is the knowing of terrain the minister was talking about.
A Nigerian pilot would have most probably discovered the error in the code given to him.
The cabin crew member that made the announcement "welcome to Abuja" didn't do anything wrong.
She, like the passengers, didn't know that the pilot had been misled to land in Asaba.

SmartyPants:



What you sre saying is what he said. But for some reason you people cant read.

The airline initially lied that it was due to bad weather. Keyamo is exposing them.

Come on!

Every flight has a GPS coordinate for the pilot to follow. You do not need to be familiar with the terrain. That is what your navigator is for.
The minister has no idea what he's talking about

So the point you are trying to make is that the PRO MUST tell a lie to be adjudged good on the job.

You must belong to APC

Obierika:


Let's pretend you are the PRO of the airline, oya give us a more believeable excuse/lie to cover for the error

...we're waiting

sirpharrell:
As usual, most of the comments on this issue are ignorant.
The minister only exposed the lie earlier churned out by the airline.
And what he said is consistent with what some investigative journalists said earlier.
What most of you guys fail to realise is that the pilots are given codes for their destination.
Abuja is ABV while Asaba is ABB. This is where the problem originated.
Someone mistakenly typed or clicked ABB instead of ABV,
And the pilots were misled to think that they were heading to Asaba.
That is the knowing of terrain the minister was talking about.
A Nigerian pilot would have most probably discovered the error in the code given to him.
The cabin crew member that made the announcement "welcome to Abuja" didn't do anything wrong.
She, like the passengers, didn't know that the pilot had been misled to land in Asaba.

Ignorance is a disease sha. In your haste to sound wise you also displayed the same ignorance as our clueless minister.
There is a reason why we have something called a control tower.
Right from the inception of the flight, this should have been noticed.
Please read up so you don't embarrass yourself in a more public setting

Programmer47:


Every flight has a GPS coordinate for the pilot to follow. You do not need to be familiar with the terrain. That is what your navigator is for.
The minister has no idea what he's talking about

Read the write up. From the beginning the pilots confused Abuja with Asaba. That's what he means...this is based on recordings retreived from the control tower.

Its all there in the write up.

In any case the minister is saying the whole episode is about incompetence not the weather. That's the point!

Why can't you read before you respond to anything... Show me one pilot study in the world that you will enter his plane of he tells you he is using the GPS on his iPhone or Android phone to fly you from Kano to Zamfara?

Maybe you can fly with your iPhone or Android phone, I'm assuming you are from Vejin in Edo State.

Again read the comment thread and re read your responses and you will figure out where you went off side.

AroundYou:


Why do you love arguing blindly? You are telling a pilot that Gps does not work above 30,000 feet? Are you kidding me?

Airplanes have GPS antennas and the satellites providing the GPS signal is above 300,000 feet's or more, Please stop arguing about what you no nothing about.

Programmer47:


Ignorance is a disease sha. In your haste to sound wise you also displayed the same ignorance as our clueless minister.
There is a reason why we have something called a control tower.
Right from the inception of the flight, this should have been noticed.
Please read up so you don't embarrass yourself in a more public setting

You are the one sounding so ignorant, well you are of course.
Have you listened to the conversation between the pilot and the control tower?
Of course, you haven't but you know more than the minister who has listened to the conversation.
Read the post again especially the point where the minister said from the conversation, the control tower asked the pilot repeatedly to confirm his destination and he said it was Asaba.
The minister didn't say this, but inside sources that know more than you do (if you know anything about aviation at all) have said that the problem originated from the code given to the foreign pilot, ABB instead of ABV.
Most of you just jump on the bandwagon and come online to spew rubbish on things you know nothing about.

They are not familiar yet they have been flying correctly and consistently for years until the recent incident?

Festus Keyamo get sense abeg.
You are now a minister!!! Talk with dignity.

sirpharrell:


You are the one sounding so ignorant, well you are of course.
Have you listened to the conversation between the pilot and the control tower?
Of course, you haven't but you know more than the minister who has listened to the conversation.
Read the post again especially the point where the minister said from the conversation, the control tower asked the pilot repeatedly to confirm his destination and he said it was Asaba.
The minister didn't say this, but inside sources that know more than you do (if you know anything about aviation at all) have said that the problem originated from the code given to the foreign pilot, ABB instead of ABV.
Most of you just jump on the bandwagon and come online to spew rubbish on things you know nothing about.

A control tower keeps track of its outgoing flights. Before the plane jets off , a flight plan is handed over to the pilot to assist with the navigational process. It was an obvious negligence on the part of the control tower, not the pilots.
It has nothing to do with the pilots not knowing the terrain.
At 30,000 ft in the air, there is no way to differentiate states. The "ignorant folks" according to you simply stated that Keyamo used the wrong technical term to describe the error and you immediately rushed to comment without properly analyzing what is being said.

"The pilots are not familiar with this terrain" is a sentence that reeks of ignorance.
A wrong flight plan was delivered to the navigator. It has nothing to do with the pilot who was just following his navigation systems.

I see this as just another scheme to attack aircrafts who probably run their aircrafts on wet lease.
Place the blame where it lies. On the control tower. Not only did they Bleep up the flight plan, they also failed to keep tabs on an outgoing flight which in some countries is grounds for severe reprisals.

SmartyPants:


Read the write up. From the beginning the pilots confused Abuja with Asaba. That's what he means...this is based on recordings retreived from the control tower.

Its all there in the write up.

In any case the minister is saying the whole episode is about incompetence not the weather. That's the point!

Programmer47:


A control tower keeps track of its outgoing flights. Before the plane jets off , a flight plan is handed over to the pilot to assist with the navigational process. It was an obvious negligence on the part of the control tower, not the pilots.
It has nothing to do with the pilots not knowing the terrain.
At 30,000 ft in the air, there is no way to differentiate states. The "ignorant folks" according to you simply stated that Keyamo used the wrong technical term to describe the error and you immediately rushed to comment without properly analyzing what is being said.

"The pilots are not familiar with this terrain" is a sentence that reeks of ignorance.
A wrong flight plan was delivered to the navigator. It has nothing to do with the pilot who was just following his navigation systems.

I see this as just another scheme to attack aircrafts who probably run their aircrafts on wet lease.
Place the blame where it lies. On the control tower. Not only did they Bleep up the flight plan, they also failed to keep tabs on an outgoing flight which in some countries is grounds for severe reprisals.

Here is your answer as well.
If one is not well versed on an industry , it shows in their speech.
This case is similar to a novice blaming the Mason for the structure of the house when the buck stops at the architect