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Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:11am On Dec 26, 2023 |
buygala:5. This is also the understanding of marriage that is offered by the Gospel. For this reason, when it comes to blessings, the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which states that the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex should I continue? |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:12am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Belafonte: the pope did not give a speech, he approved a document written byy some cardinals. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:13am On Dec 26, 2023 |
bitbillionaire:5. This is also the understanding of marriage that is offered by the Gospel. For this reason, when it comes to blessings, the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which states that the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex should I continue? |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:13am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Belafonte:https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:14am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Larryndelaw:the cardinal who wrote the document already defended himself https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/cardinal-fernandez-same-sex-blessing |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:15am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Empresa: did yo even read the document in the first place? |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:17am On Dec 26, 2023 |
bigcasava1:Did you read the document? This is what the pope saids It is a matter of avoiding that “something that is not marriage is being recognized as marriage.”[5] Therefore, rites and prayers that could create confusion between what constitutes marriage—which is the “exclusive, stable, and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the generation of children”[6]—and what contradicts it are inadmissible. This conviction is grounded in the perennial Catholic doctrine of marriage; it is only in this context that sexual relations find their natural, proper, and fully human meaning. The Church’s doctrine on this point remains firm. 5. This is also the understanding of marriage that is offered by the Gospel. For this reason, when it comes to blessings, the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which states that the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex. you want more? |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:18am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Iamzik: Even the pope's document agrees with you that the bible is clearly against it |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ubenedictus(m): 3:19am On Dec 26, 2023 |
drnoel: It is a matter of avoiding that “something that is not marriage is being recognized as marriage.”[5] Therefore, rites and prayers that could create confusion between what constitutes marriage—which is the “exclusive, stable, and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the generation of children”[6]—and what contradicts it are inadmissible. This conviction is grounded in the perennial Catholic doctrine of marriage; it is only in this context that sexual relations find their natural, proper, and fully human meaning. The Church’s doctrine on this point remains firm. 5. This is also the understanding of marriage that is offered by the Gospel. For this reason, when it comes to blessings, the Church has the right and the duty to avoid any rite that might contradict this conviction or lead to confusion. Such is also the meaning of the Responsum of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which states that the Church does not have the power to impart blessings on unions of persons of the same sex. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by ariesbull: 5:45am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Ubenedictus:i am a catholic ....and I domt support this madness |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by blowjohn(m): 6:00am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Ubenedictus: Ok good. But in the article they said they can now bless same sex couples. The issue here is 'couples' If u bless same sex couples it means ur blessing their relationship. It means they are ok with or condone same sex couples. These are people that need psychiatric and psychological evaluations, management and treatment, as well as prayers of deliverance, instead of blessings |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by blowjohn(m): 6:07am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Ubenedictus: Everyone recognizes that he or she is a sinner. There are many sins. If one is a thief or murderer, that means he or she shud go for prayer of Grace? What happened to prayer of forgiveness, and deliverance? By the way, are they not aware that same sex couples need psychiatric, psychological evaluation, management, as well as deliverance? How does a gay live more according to God's will if he doesn't turn away from being gay? Same thing as a murderer turning away from killing people. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by julaion: 6:31am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Sprints3:Same God gave an order in book of levi that gays should be killed and their blood shall be on their head |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:32am On Dec 26, 2023 |
buygala:Is it the Pope you are quoting here or CNN, if you really want to hear what the Pope said, here it is, read and verify for yourself https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:33am On Dec 26, 2023 |
letristian: Here is the blessing he intends for them, take time and read ,okay,your brain will not scatter https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:34am On Dec 26, 2023 |
abhosts:No damage control needed because this is his exact statement, read and weep https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by dandollaz: 6:34am On Dec 26, 2023 |
You go explain tire. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:36am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Originalsly:Him and CNN, who do you think is not part of the inner circle. Then see what's on the website, which I know you don't even know exist, because you have never been there your life https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:36am On Dec 26, 2023 |
frog12:Who Sabi lie exactly https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:40am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Nahunger:The Pope never denied his statement, his statement was clear and the media started to circulate lies to discredit the Pope, and the funniest part is that his statement is online for all to see, maybe it's because.its a long one and we know this generation don't like reading so it's easy to deceive them Shaaa here's the Pope official statement, read and then apologize for this your ignorant statement https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 6:43am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Natbrowny:I know say English hard you na why devil wan use am against you. Fight hard, fight really.hard and read the Pope's statement from the source https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20231218_fiducia-supplicans_en.html# |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by livebullet(m): 6:53am On Dec 26, 2023 |
letristian: Do you mean u cannot be blessed by your pastor simply because you are a fornicator! |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by buygala(m): 7:03am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Ajmoziz: If you Catholics believe this merry go round of an explanation, then y'all are more brainwashed than I thought Blessing same sex couples without "officially validating it"... What kind of double-speak is that? ... Or maybe we should take it that Blessing in this context means "unofficial validation" which still boils down to validation 1 Like
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Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Justnation: 7:35am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Archbishop is playing safe and applying damage control. What the Pope did was horrible and I know the lager community of Catholic faithful will not accept it |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Richfella1(m): 8:00am On Dec 26, 2023 |
id911: I don't have a dog in the fight...but na from clap them dey take enter dance. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by maasoap(m): 8:33am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Xscape1993:But this man didn't repeat what Pope said now. He should have quoted Pope for further clarification. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by maasoap(m): 8:40am On Dec 26, 2023 |
ucsquare:Brainwashed doing damage control and attacking people. Lol. Christianity came from them and they will continue twisting it and manipulating it to accommodate anything they want, you just have to deal with that. Pope has given his blessing to gay marriages and has instructed churches to follow. You either comply or dump Catholics or Christianity |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by zoedew: 8:47am On Dec 26, 2023 |
id911:Ever heard evil receiving the commendation of the good? That's what you and the Pope are attempting to do! It is an exercise in futility!! |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Freebills12: 8:50am On Dec 26, 2023 |
[color=#006600][/color]buygala: Translatiors are traitors... Hope you have heard that adage before? Download this document... Fudicia supplicans ... the document in equation. Read it and stop saying what a blogger or media house wrote in order to sell. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Freebills12: 8:53am On Dec 26, 2023 |
[color=#000099][/color] buygala: If you are a pastor and a harlot ask you to pray for her. Will you pray for her? Catholic church is against homosexuality. It is a sin against God and man. Praying for them to change is not bad. |
Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Originalsly: 9:00am On Dec 26, 2023 |
Ajmoziz: Why should I know about the website? ... and why should I be there? ... am I Catholic? You should be saying this to the Rev Father... if he had visited the site he would not have said what he did. Did you even read what you referenced? If you did .... doesn't it say same sex couples can receive blessings? ... and the Rev said it is a lie?
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Re: Same-sex Couples: Pope Was Misquoted By Enemies Of D Church - Archbishop Kaigama by Ajmoziz(m): 10:06am On Dec 26, 2023 |
buygala: Bro read to the end ehhh, your head will not explode, everything you need to know is explained,if you just read |
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