kabukabu50:

Its not a celebrity thing, its more of a cultural issue.
More people in first world countries are more likely to be addicted to drugs legal or illegal
They have more discretionary income.Social stigmas that exist in poorer countries deter drug use.

That euphemism is wrong and baseless.  We all live in one world as far as nature is concerned.

Mr--Why:

That euphemism is wrong and baseless.  We all live in one world as far as nature is concerned.

so nigeria and germany should be classified as one world?
i like this guy already.

nobody can cheat nature.mj and stella obj paid dearly with their lives.i like the way my mama give birth to me oooooo.dr murray was the scapegoat.

So bad for him.

coogar:

nigerian celebrities have more self-control would describe it more aptly.

That so called "self control", I already described as the influence of cultural norms and attitudes,  Gawd, movin on.

The thread is already resembling one of those Al-jazeera*hate everything west* ones

Sheeesh.Seriously get a grip.

coogar:

how come your own doctor hasn't made you a junkie?
would a doctor force drugs on his patient?

michael jackson was a celebrity. he would get what he wants from any doctor. we all know how this could have panned out.
propofol isn't supposed to be administered outside a hospital environment but i can tell you every doctor in america would administer it to michael if he had demanded it. it boils down to professionalism versus compromising

good luck to conrad murray!
someone had to pay for michael jackson's death.

Micheal Jackson or any celebrity  demand on drug use is not the issue here.

Were are talking about ethics and professionalism, any Doc that ignores that will blame him-self.

Doctor Murray loosed  one of his practice licence and his other licences might go.

kabukabu50:

That so called "self control", I already described as the influence of cultural norms and attitudes,  Gawd, movin on.

The thread is already resembling one of those Al-jazeera*hate everything west* ones

Sheeesh.Seriously get a grip.

i don't hate the west - just stating facts that africans tend to have more self-control and more balanced than their counterparts in the west.
nigerian celebrities will definitely be taking drugs - but with self control.

emmatok:

Micheal Jackson or any celebrity  demand on drug use is not the issue here.

We're are talking about ethics and professionalism, any Doc that ignores that will blame him-self.

Doctor Murray has loosed  one of his practice licence and his other licences might go.

emmatok, biko.
i am not wearing my bulletproof vest this evening.

coogar:

so nigeria and germany should be classified as one world?
i like this guy already.

We all breath the same O₂ and are mortal beings. If they want to be really classified as first world, they should build some type of craft and relocate to some planet outside of the universe entirely where immortality awaits them.

Under-developed, developing and developed sound more reasonable though .

Mr--Why:

We all breath the same O₂ and are mortal beings. If they want to be really classified as first world, they should build some type of craft and relocate to some planet outside of the universe entirely where immortality awaits them.

Under-developed, developing and developed sound more reasonable though .

under developed - 3rd
developing -2nd
developed - 1st.

happy now?

Any discerning person would have seen his conviction coming.
The evidence against him was quite significant.
So here's another black man looking at 4 years staring @ prison bars.

Yep! plus lose his practice licences, Dumb Axxrse grenadan!! I hear it runs in the family.

Limaoscar:


Yep! plus lose his practice licences, Dumb Axxrse grenadan!! I hear it runs in the family.

he can still practice in another state

coogar:

under developed - 3rd
developing -2nd
developed - 1st.

happy now?

Noooo. Just waiting for the day to say it to them right in their face, then I will be happy . They are good with coded words and words are powerful. "Sub Sahara Africa", "black death", "black market", black Monday" etc. Whats up with all that.    Anyways, night.

I think the fault lies on both of them, but mainly on the doctor because he was supposed to be in-charge of Michael, Michael was an addict and needed help,, but that doctor was just too careless with Michael's life,

ijaw_girl:

I think the fault lies on both of them, but mainly on the doctor because he was supposed to be in-charge of Michael, Michael was an addict and needed help,, but that doctor was just too careless with Michael's life,

how do you knw

This case is complete nonsense. I understand that Conrad Murray's use of Propofol was unusual, but doctors commonly prescribe medications for off-label uses. The fact is that Conrad Murray is a consultant physician and is therefore and authority in his field. It doesn't matter if he was beating Michael on the head with shovel as long as it was his professional opinion that shovel-beating was in his patient's best interest. The fact is that doctors have to make risky decisions as part of their job and no matter how careful they are, some patients are going to suffer or die as a result of those decisions. If there are concerns over the standard of care MJ received, then the Medical Board of California should hold a hearing and strip him of his license. It makes no sense for a jury of laymen to be second-guessing a highly qualified professional with years of experience.

It would be fine if they thought that he deliberately killed MJ, but nobody is saying that. At worst he was a bit reckless and wasn't paying attention to his patient at a crucial time. The guy has basically been dragged in front of a jury because of a momentary lapse in concentration. What happened is very sad but no doctor should have to worry about going to prison because of the care they give to their patients.

This case puts all doctors at risk. And in the end, it'll be the patients that'll suffer. The next Michael Jackson is going to have a really hard time finding a qualified doctor to take care of him. And if doctors are worrying about going to jail, it'll lead to more defensive medicine. And fewer sick people will get better.

coogar:

i don't hate the west - just stating facts that africans tend to have more self-control and more balanced than their counterparts in the west.
nigerian celebrities will definitely be taking drugs - but with self control.

emmatok, biko.
i am not wearing my bulletproof vest this evening.

Darn, the stuff that people put on the internet these days, just mindblowing.
Self control my behind, if africans do, how come we have not applied it to intellectual science and developed technologies that surpass western ideas, how come we are tied in in relentless corruption, how come we can't harness our own resources to make positive changes in our environment.


I guess not, maybe we need some more of the "western drugs" to enable our *creative genes*

child please.

ijaw_girl:

I think the fault lies on both of them, but mainly on the doctor because he was supposed to be in-charge of Michael, Michael was an addict and needed help,, but that doctor was just too careless with Michael's life,

do you think as a doctor it is easy controlling a celeb like MJ?

The simple truth there is dat Dr conrad murry can not be completely exonerated from that crime.look at it frm dis scenario,why did he leave michael jackson afta administerin d drug knwin fully well hw power d anaesthetic could be.and also knwin fully well dat d drug ws nt meant to be given at home.and anoda separate investigation showd dat he made series of calls between d time he gave him d drug and the time michael jackson died.why didnt he call d emergency service immediately he found out jackson ws nt breathin any more instead he ws givin him CPR on his bed instead of floor?why ws he cautious of hidin d drugs and d equipments used in administerin d drug before callin d emergency service?? well for people dat didnt knw before,Dr conrad murray calld michael jackson on the eve of his most advertised london concert.pls ask illumnati nt me okay.

kabukabu50:

Darn, the stuff that people put on the internet these days, just mindblowing.
Self control my behind, if africans do, how come we have not applied it to intellectual science and developed technologies that surpass western ideas, how come we are tied in in relentless corruption, how come we can't harness our own resources to make positive changes in our environment.

how you can put self control and knowledge in the same realm baffles me.
what has self control gotta do with knowledge?

I guess not, maybe we need some more of the "western drugs" to enable our *creative genes*

we don' need the western posion.
there's a universe of difference between self control and knowledge. . . . civilization got to africa very very late.
what's the suicide rate in the western world? what is it in africa??

Good for him careless doctor

coogar:

how you can put self control and knowledge in the same realm baffles me.
what has self control gotta do with knowledge?

we don' need the western posion.
there's a universe of difference between self control and knowledge. . . . civilization got to africa very very late.
what's the suicide rate in the western world? what is it in africa??

That "self control" is not inherently present in african DNA or however you want me to explain it to you.
Like I previously put it, there are different cultural factors that come into play  

facepalm.

Truth is ;Michael Jackson was already a dead man walking before he met Dr Murray.Dr Murray was just the fall guy.LIke they say; a drowning man would always look for some one to go down with.Its a pity it went this way but lets wait for the details of the verdict, thats where the twist might just play out to Dr . Murrays favour, may be a suspended sentence.

Still wondering why he's receiving only 4 years. Receiving a paycheck of $150,000 from Micheal Jackson for God knows how long. He'll probably just go to jail to think about what to do with all the wealth he had accumulated.

Probably Murray bleached Jackson skin and fix a plastic nose for him too. The dermatologist that helped him bleached his skin'which later become excuse of Vitiligo) SHOULD ALSO BE PUNISHED!

He's been used as a scapegoat!

[b][size=16pt]But what can you do if you're naturally a compassionate person?  Compassionate people are easily drawn to work of mercy, performing compassionate roles and, doing it out of sheer human sympathy - and that can be ruinous to their health, career and life and pocket.

It's a pity what happened to Dr Conrad.  Michael Jackson and his lifestyle has ruined a decent gentleman, who only went to help a walking ZOMBIE trying to take others to the abyss with him.  Imagine, his home was nothing less but a Pharmacy?  Is that a normal life?  No wonder, he ended up that way.

In retrospect, we wish Dr Conrad hadn't even heard of, talk less of seen and let alone touch that atomic bomb they called Michael Jackson, that was waiting to explode at the time. In Igbo language we call his kind, 'Ocho nga na oko'.   And that means, a dangerous and risky individual!!! Not quite sure if I got the interpretation correct but anyone can help here!

Well Dr Conrad, experience they say is the best teacher and that's also, a learning curve for everyone in Healthcare - to watch that compassionate Inner-man in them.  You see, sometimes, that Good Samaritan Spirit in us all can be damaging to our health therefore, we must apply common sense in these things, by not letting our hearts rule your heads!

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poor murray has loads of evidences against him 2 show he is guilty even frm m.j's producer, instrumentalist etc. I jst hp he gets a fair trial

Who's next?

Since the judgement was involuntary manslaughter,they should fine him and grant him bail. Make them free him.

addiction resistant rate of naija aje kpako celebs, is far greater than that of oyibo aje bota celebz, therefore naija to take weda na propofol,lorazepam,cocaine,opium,weed,igbo, name it,can neva induce fatal addiction as much as the oyibos(whites)

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My brother, what you said is true, propofol should not be given outside a hospital but I bet you, celebrities are one of the most difficult people to treat as a Doctor because they determine what they want and how they want it.

MJ Doctor knew all these, but the 150,000 dollars a month was too enticing for him, that he was then taking instructions from MJ instead of the reverse,