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Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by texazzpete(m): 12:24pm On Nov 25, 2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/25/six-deaths-after-pastors-claim-hiv-cure_n_1112527.html?ref=uk

At least six people have died from HIV after being told by evangelical pastors they were "cured" and could stop taking their medication, Sky News is reporting.

There is evidence churches in four of the UK's biggest cities, including London, are claiming to be able to cure HIV through God. Three Sky reporters went undercover to the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), based in Southwark, South London, and told pastors they were HIV positive.

All three were told they could be "healed". According to the reports, once a month the church holds a "prayer line" where people from across Europe congregate to be cured of their illnesses. At a registration session, the sick have to hand over a doctor's etter as "evidence" to prove they are ill.

They are then "healed" by pastors shouting for the devil to leave their body while spraying water at the "patient".

One pastor, Rachel Holmes, allegedly told a reporter the church has a 100% success rate.

"We have many people that contract HIV. All are healed."

Patients are told if symptoms synonymous with the disease persist it is actually a sign of the virus leaving the body.

"We've had people coming back saying they are not healed. I have to stop them and say 'No please, you are free."

The "healed" patients are then told they are free to start a family.

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 25, 2011
Beware of scammers !
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Jakumo(m): 12:38pm On Nov 25, 2011
Everyone knows that the ONLY proven way to cure AIDS is boning a wild porcupine every midnight for an entire week, sending $100 cash to my account, updating your will to make me sole beneficiary, and PRAYING.

Thank you Jeeeesus !
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 12:42pm On Nov 25, 2011
shocked shocked shocked
Beware of scammers ! grin
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 25, 2011
Church Tells HIV Patients To Stop Treatment
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SHOCK VIDEO* Church Tells HIV Patients To Stop Treatment - At least six people have died in Britain after being told they had been healed of HIV and could stop taking their medication, Sky News has discovered.

There is evidence that evangelical churches in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Glasgow are claiming to cure HIV through God.

We sent three undercover reporters to the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), which is based in Southwark, south London.

All of them told the pastors they were HIV positive - all were told they could be healed.

Once a month the church has a prayer line, where people from across Europe come to be cured of all kinds of illness.

At registration they have to hand over a doctor's letter as evidence of their condition

They are filmed giving before and after testimonies, which are put on SCOAN's website.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 12:49pm On Nov 25, 2011
Beware of scammers !
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Bawss1(m): 12:51pm On Nov 25, 2011
~Bluetooth:

Beware of scammers !

. . .and spammers! Enough already!

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Pukkah: 12:54pm On Nov 25, 2011
Religion is the opium of the people.  There will always be a generous supply of dumb people for clever and smart people to con, deceive and fleece.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 1:02pm On Nov 25, 2011
Bawss1:

. . .and spammers! Enough already!
People have been deceived by these scammers so you have to shout it at them over and over again.

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Arosa(m): 1:13pm On Nov 25, 2011
how much is this anointing water that cures Hiv? embarassed lipsrsealed
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Makweembo: 1:14pm On Nov 25, 2011
Statement from SCOAN London - http://scoanlondon./

Recently, Sky News came uninvited to SCOAN London. Their approach was not polite. Their actions were recorded by The Synagogue and by their own camera man.

Below is our response to their queries. This is what we believe:

“We are not the Healer; God is the Healer. Never a sickness God cannot heal. Never a disease God cannot cure. Never a burden God cannot bear. Never a problem God cannot solve. To His power, nothing is impossible. We have not done anything to bring about healing, deliverance or prosperity. If somebody is healed, it is God who heals.

“We must have a genuine desire if we come to God. We are not in position to question anybody’s genuine desire. Only God knows if one comes with true desire. Only God can determine this. That is why, if anybody comes in the name of God, we pray for them. The outcome of the prayer will determine if they come genuinely or not.

“When we are healed, we are healed for a relationship with Jesus forever. Christianity is a relationship. When the relationship is broken, the blessing is lost.

“We don’t ask people to stop taking medication. Doctors treat; God heals. Medical doctors do their work, just as ministers of God do. We sent a team of doctors, nurses and counsellors to help after the earthquake in Haiti, as well as to many other troubled nations, as you can see from our full documentary on Emmanuel TV (www.emmanuel.tv). You will see the regard we have for medical doctors; I mean, the power of nature. There is nothing bad in using medication. It was the same medication that sustained these people before they came to the church. However, they believed that God is the God of nature.”
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 25, 2011
The undoing of a lot of these scammers would be their foray into the UK.
Unlike Nigeria and the U.S where just about anything goes in the name of religion, there is a hard-limit to obeisance in the U.K

Scammers like this are pretty much fair game now, judging by the number of TV documentaries/exposé we have seen in recent times.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 1:22pm On Nov 25, 2011
Arosa:

how much is this anointing water that cures Hiv? embarassed lipsrsealed
havent you heard that Ofe ni igbala ?
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Kilode1: 1:47pm On Nov 25, 2011
These same Lunatics calling themselves pastors have probably killed thousands in Nigeria already. embarassed
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 1:49pm On Nov 25, 2011
I did not see this here , posted in the religious section as well.

It is total madness.

T.B Joshua is a SCAM and his church is a SHAM
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by doctokwus: 2:10pm On Nov 25, 2011
See how quick they were in issuing a statement after d journalists story& dere refutal of allegations that they tell people not to b taking their anti HIV drugs;I bet in nigeria they won't evn bother& will b first to dismiss d journalists as agents of d devil;I wish we had such investigative journalists in nigeria,many of d horrible things some of these churches do in d name of religion would av bn exposed
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by r231(m): 2:48pm On Nov 25, 2011
undecided
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 2:49pm On Nov 25, 2011
typical Yoruba man. Bloody Rascals. How can he be healing people with powers from ijebu-ode. Bloody mofo
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by ak47mann(m): 2:53pm On Nov 25, 2011
saw on the news this morning very sad cool
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by BCuZiMBlaCk(m): 2:59pm On Nov 25, 2011
No offense but i laughed when i saw the title of the thread.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by donjos10(m): 3:02pm On Nov 25, 2011
how
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by juman(m): 3:09pm On Nov 25, 2011
Everything about Nigeria are fake
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by papagiddy(m): 3:12pm On Nov 25, 2011
well, tbj is just doing his best,God is the healer. may God bless TBJ

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by moderatorr: 3:17pm On Nov 25, 2011
may God bless TB Joshua.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by moderatorr: 3:21pm On Nov 25, 2011
the criticism that TB Joshua has suffered in Nigeria is greater than anything sky news can cookup in their entire life!
TB Joshua has more critics than GEJ.
Every now and then we see people cooking up false evidense against TB Joshua.
The barest truth is that those who criticise TB Joshua are those who have not studied him.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by jmoore(m): 3:24pm On Nov 25, 2011
juman:

Everything about Nigeria are fake

watch how you talk!

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by andyanders: 3:25pm On Nov 25, 2011
@Kilode?!
@frosbel (m)
@lucenzo

Well, judgment is in the hands of God. You 3 above said that the man of God T.B. Joshua is a lunatic and a scam. I believe that you people were saying what you stated above because you are blind and as a result of your ignorance to be able to know who T.B.Joshua is. If you are in spirit, you need not to condenm. The Sky News that posed as Aids patients and went to SCOAN in London to be healed goes to show you that they went there for a purpose, just to discredit the church of God and the man of God senior Prophet T.B Joshua because of their ignorance. I cannot blame Sky news because they are of this world.
Our problem in the whole world is “Tongue Problem". T.B. Joshua is not the healer. He NEVER claimed to be the healer. Jesus Christ is the healer. He is the messenger of God. Doing the works of God for the glory of God. T.B Joshua never said he is God or Jesus. Why do men condemn him?

He T. B. Joshua has been helping the needy and giving scholarships to millions of less privileged children that were not his biological children, the widow and the widower. He has given hope to the less privileged through out the society.

Well, he, T. B. Joshua will NEVER ever challenge you people over your comments, rather he will still be praying for you people because he is not of this world. He is only accountable to the man who sent him, God Almighty.

I pray, you understand the gravity of your comments because you will surely give accounts of your comments in the presence of God God.

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Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Yorisb: 3:27pm On Nov 25, 2011
papa giddy:

well, tbj is just doing his best,God is the healer. may God bless TBJ
moderatorr:

the criticism that TB Joshua has suffered in Nigeria is greater than anything sky news can cookup in their entire life!
TB Joshua has more critics than GEJ.
Every now and then we see people cooking up false evidense against TB Joshua.
The barest truth is that those who criticise TB Joshua are those who have not studied him.


Huh? Excuse me?!?
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by freecocoa(f): 3:29pm On Nov 25, 2011
I can only say, Hmmm Na wa O.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 3:32pm On Nov 25, 2011
andyanders:

Well, he, T. B. Joshua will NEVER ever challenge you people over your comments, rather he will still be praying for you people because he is not of this world. He is only accountable to the man who sent him, God Almighty.

How many, how many, how many?

I always knew that grin

Doh, it doesn't take the brains of Einstein to see T.B Joshua was birthed by aliens from a different galaxy.
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Nobody: 3:37pm On Nov 25, 2011
Be carefull all of you speaking blasphemy against the man of God. Every tongue that rise against him in blasphemy shall be destroyed, every tongue that speak evil against him shall be condemed, he that course him, shall be course and bless is he that bless you. Thus says Lord
Re: Six Die After Being 'cured' Of Hiv By Tb Joshua's Church In London by Kx: 3:40pm On Nov 25, 2011
Na wah.

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