Nairaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: Join Nairaland / Login / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 1236265 members, 1645200 topics. Date: Saturday, 19 April 2014 at 09:05 AM

Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? - Religion - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? (4738 Views)

Should A Born-Again Christian Work On Sunday? / Can A Born Again Christian Be A Soldier? / A Born Again Christian Is Not A Sinner (even If He Sins) (1) (2) (3) (4)

(0) (Reply) (Go Down)

Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 3:36am On Jan 08, 2012
Christians on nairaland, this question has been on my mind, i asked somebody, he told, he is a member of olumba,olumba. I also gather from a coded information from a man of God that he is not a christian. What do you think? Has he been washed in the precious blood of the lamb or just a nominal christian? I am not here to judge him or destroy him, i just feel that we need to discuss this and offer possible solution, because a leader has great influence and inspiration on his people. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by claremont(m): 10:48am On Jan 08, 2012
How does his being a Christian/Muslim/Pagan influence the implementation of government policies and programmes?! Moreover, why should his religious/non-religious inclination be a subject of public debate?!

1 Like

Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Judek2(m): 12:18pm On Jan 08, 2012
And I say, you are judging already.

GEJ is a political leader and not a religious leader. Religion in Christianity has nothing to do with politics,so Goodluck must exhibit his political power and whether being a good Christian or not does not include his political stands.
His spiritual life is between him and God.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by frosbel(m): 1:24pm On Jan 08, 2012
Judek2:

And I say, you are judging already.

GEJ is a political leader and not a religious leader. Religion in Christianity has nothing to do with politics,so Goodluck must exhibit his political power and whether being a good Christian or not does not include his political stands.
His spiritual life is between him and God.

Gbam !!!!!!
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 1:34pm On Jan 08, 2012
Let us learn from this true life story. One of our political leader in this country gave his chauffeur a directive to take him to a particular place, this politcian went to the bush, while the chauffeur was waiting, this chauffeur waited and waited for a long time, this our so call leader refused to come back, so, this chauffeur took it as responsibilty to look for his boss, when he got there, Alas! This particular politician was bathing with blood. This politician asked him; what did you see? The politician warned his chauffeur not to reveal the secret to anybody. This chauffeur died after sometime.
Let us be frank now, majority of our leaders are deep into the occult, some of them have gone too far with the devil. Why? They want to be in that position by all means. They will sacrifice anything just to get to that position. There are chronic herbalists that will do JUJU for them, so that they can acheive their heart desire.
You see, it will be difficult to understand all these mysteries, it will take, a great spiritual insight to understand what some politicians have done to get to their present position. The truth is that there is no way such a leader will think straight, it is not possible for such a leader to be creative. It will take the grace of God and the mercy of God for such leader to affect his generation for good. God bless you. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Sweetnecta: 1:40pm On Jan 08, 2012
@frosbel;^^^ the same gbam will not apply to former political leaders like shagari, buhari, babangida, abacha, abdlSalaam.

you will not forget that they came from a specific tribe, region, ethnic group, their religion must be the number 1 of their identity.

the same are not applying to delta man christian kneeling president [wide brim hat pressing brain down] GEJ.

when it comes to life, different rules must apply to Islam and muslims.


@God2man: the moral of your story above since there is no punch line, is no one told you, since the driver never told anyone, but you have to make it up as Paul made up his Bible.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by musKeeto(m): 1:42pm On Jan 08, 2012
God2man:

Let us learn from this true life story. One of our political leader in this country gave his chauffeur a directive to take him to a particular place, this politcian went to the bush, while the chauffeur was waiting, this chauffeur waited and waited for a long time, this our so call leader refused to come back, so, this chauffeur took it as responsibilty to look for his boss, when he got there, Alas! This particular politician was bathing with blood. This politician asked him; what did you see? The politician warned his chauffeur not to reveal the secret to anybody. This chauffeur died after sometime.
Let us be frank now, majority of our leaders are deep into the occult, some of them have gone too far with the devil. Why? They want to be in that position by all means. They will sacrifice anything just to get to that position. There are chronic herbalists that will do JUJU for them, so that they can acheive their heart desire.
You see, it will be difficult to understand all these mysteries, it will take, a great spiritual insight to understand what some politicians have done to get to their present position. The truth is that there is no way such a leader will think straight, it is not possible for such a leader to be creative. It will take the grace of God and the mercy of God for such leader to affect his generation for good. God bless you. God2man.
LMAOO, The chauffeur died, all these cigar and star gist for Nairaland.


Simply put,

1. You say a lot of our leaders are deeply into occult. If I agree with you then it directly means that

a. Either the prayer of Nigerians every end of month, croosover blal blah blah are not working, or we're praying to the wrong God.
b. If GEJ's into occult, then either Adeboye annointed an occultic man or,
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by frosbel(m): 1:55pm On Jan 08, 2012
Sweetnecta:

@frosbel;^^^ the same gbam will not apply to former political leaders like shagari, buhari, babangida, abacha, abdlSalaam.

you will not forget that they came from a specific tribe, region, ethnic group, their religion must be the number 1 of their identity.

the same are not applying to delta man christian kneeling president [wide brim hat pressing brain down] GEJ.

when it comes to life, different rules must apply to Islam and muslims.

In [u]TRUE[/U] Christianity , there is separation of Religion and State akin to " give what belongs to Caesar  to Caesar  and give what belongs to God to God ".

In Islam , Religion and State are intertwined.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 2:21pm On Jan 08, 2012
Let us be careful here, i will not label GEJ as an occult man nor Pastor Adeboye, it is not good for their offices, it shows we do not respect our leaders. However, we need to know, where our political leaders stand, is it with God? Or the devil? It is not possble to serve the two together.
Some leaders are born to lead, some have leadership entrusted on them, some struggle to become a leader, some became a leader by chance or luck. Some people inherit it. Leadership is not a tea party, it requires a lot of thinking, taking risky decisions that will affect the next generation positively. GEJ may be facing some uneasy situation now, my prayer is that God should help him to do the right thing. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by plaetton: 4:52pm On Jan 08, 2012
All our past leaders have been devoutly religious.
What positive legacies have they left behind?
Must you look at everything and everyone through a religious lens?
And pls tell me, name one historical or contemporary world leader who governed well and brought properity and peace to his nation on account of his religious piety?
Religion and polictal leadership are a very bad mix. History supports this.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by aletheia(m): 8:13pm On Jan 08, 2012
God2man:

Let us learn from this true life story. One of our political leader in this country gave his chauffeur a directive to take him to a particular place, this politcian went to the bush, while the chauffeur was waiting, this chauffeur waited and waited for a long time, this our so call leader refused to come back, so, this chauffeur took it as responsibilty to look for his boss, when he got there, Alas! This particular politician was bathing with blood. This politician asked him; what did you see? The politician warned his chauffeur not to reveal the secret to anybody. This chauffeur died after sometime.
Let us be frank now, majority of our leaders are deep into the occult, some of them have gone too far with the devil. Why? They want to be in that position by all means. They will sacrifice anything just to get to that position. There are chronic herbalists that will do JUJU for them, so that they can acheive their heart desire.
You see, it will be difficult to understand all these mysteries, it will take, a great spiritual insight to understand what some politicians have done to get to their present position. The truth is that there is no way such a leader will think straight, it is not possible for such a leader to be creative. It will take the grace of God and the mercy of God for such leader to affect his generation for good. God bless you. God2man.
^
Why are you afraid of naming names? The political leader in question is the former governor of Nasarawa state. . .the one before the last one. His chauffeur told his family what happened before he died. That's how the story came out.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by chrisj2000(m): 6:37am On Jan 09, 2012
do the important things first
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 7:52am On Jan 09, 2012
The Nigeria situation is more that what people think, if it is just one day or two days prayer, it will be okay, but we have a very big and complex problem in our hands, it is very deep, all we need to do is to continue in our prayers, although many believed we do not need prayer but force, well, history is in the best position to answer that question. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by musKeeto(m): 8:40am On Jan 09, 2012
God2man:

The Nigeria situation is more that what people think, if it is just one day or two days prayer, it will be okay, but we have a very big and complex problem in our hands, it is very deep, all we need to do is to continue in our prayers, although many believed we do not need prayer but force, well, history is in the best position to answer that question. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
It's more than what people think? And yet the men supposedly close to God is not warning them, not speaking to them. Is the situation also above their God?
Continue in prayers for how long? Prayers have not worked. The sooner we realise that, the earlier our solution will arrive,
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by PA1982(f): 11:57am On Jan 09, 2012
God2man wrote:

Let us be careful here, i will not label GEJ as an occult man nor Pastor Adeboye, it is not good for their offices, it shows we do not respect our leaders. However, we need to know, where our political leaders stand, is it with God? Or the devil? It is not possble to serve the two together.
Some leaders are born to lead, some have leadership entrusted on them, some struggle to become a leader, some became a leader by chance or luck. Some people inherit it. Leadership is not a tea party, it requires a lot of thinking, taking risky decisions that will affect the next generation positively. GEJ may be facing some uneasy situation now, my prayer is that God should help him to do the right thing. God bless Nigeria. God2man.

I agree with your conclusion but your premise that a ruler can only be with God or with the devil is a ridiculous one, God2man.
Nigeria is a nation with multiple faiths and sooner or later you and all Nigerians will have to learn to respect others' religious choices.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by frosbel(m): 12:06pm On Jan 09, 2012
PA1982:

God2man wrote:
I agree with your conclusion but your premise that a ruler can only be with God or with the devil is a ridiculous one, God2man.
Nigeria is a nation with multiple faiths and sooner or later you and all Nigerians will have to learn to respect others' religious choices.

We will learn to respect other religious choices especially that of ISLAM when they stop killing us.

Obviously not all Muslims have this murderous mentality especially those in the South who are mostly passive, otherwise I do not personally have a problem with anyone worshipping anything they like , even a stone for example.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by mazaje(m): 12:52pm On Jan 09, 2012
frosbel:

We will learn to respect other religious choices especially that of ISLAM when they stop killing us.

Obviously not all Muslims have this murderous mentality especially those in the South who are mostly passive, otherwise I do not personally have a problem with anyone worshipping anything they like , even a stone for example.

You remain a lair. . . . . .
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by frosbel(m): 1:01pm On Jan 09, 2012
mazaje:

You remain a lair. . . . . .

a lair What's that grin

Anyway , like I said, you can worship anything you like, it is your choice, what is difficult about that !!

Obviously we will still present the truth in meekness , and try to convince you with the truth, but we surely will not coerce you to do otherwise. undecided

Freedom of choice, remember !!!
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by mazaje(m): 2:37pm On Jan 09, 2012
I repeat, you remain a lair, your posts here are completely at variance with what you have stated. . .

Stop talking about any truth because you don't know any. . .You only believe that the man made mythology and stories that you happen to be brought up in and indoctrinated with since childhood is better than the others out there and nothing more. . . .
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by frosbel(m): 2:49pm On Jan 09, 2012
mazaje:

I[b] repeat, you remain a lair, your posts here are completely at variance with what you have stated.[/b] . .

Stop talking about any truth because you don't know any. . .You only believe that the man made mythology and stories that you happen to be brought up in and indoctrinated with since childhood is better than the others out there and nothing more. . . .

First of , it is Liar, not Lair. grin

Secondly , please point out specifically what I have said that is at variance with any earlier articles and or comments I have posted.

Thank You
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 3:28pm On Jan 09, 2012
Ask anyone presently holding any political office in Nigeria today, if he has not gone before a shrine to swear or drink a blood to seal an oath. You may find, but they will be very few.
These are the reasons why prayers seem not to be working. Any blood that is shed is powerful, there is life in the blood, it is even more powerful, if an innocent blood of a man is shed.
We are here compailning about the situation of the country,when people have killed innocent blood just to get to a position, and we are saying that it has nothing to do with us. What a pity! Well, if we refused to do what we are suppose to do as christians,things may be exacerbated. Let us do something to help our dear country, it is imporatant, even if it means exposing all politicians involved in one ritual or another, to cleanse our land of innocent blood. You see, God will find it difficult to bless a nation where innocent blood are shed daily, there is something known as the curse of the innocent. The only way we can be free is to expose them, ask for the cleansing blood of the lamb, to cleanse our land, those politicians too, need to confess their sins and forsake them, this way, we will be making a tremendous progress in this country, or else, we will continue to pray without much success, or very little impact of answered prayers. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by God2man(m): 3:31pm On Jan 09, 2012
Ask anyone presently holding any political office in Nigeria today, if he has not gone before a shrine to swear or drink a blood to seal an oath. You may find, but they will be very few.
These are the reasons why prayers seem not to be working. Any blood that is shed is powerful, there is life in the blood, it is even more powerful, if an innocent blood of a man is shed.
We are here compailning about the situation of the country,when people have killed innocent blood just to get to a position, and we are saying that it has nothing to do with us. What a pity! Well, if we refused to do what we are suppose to do as christians,things may be exacerbated. Let us do something to help our dear country, it is imporatant, even if it means exposing all politicians involved in one ritual or another, to cleanse our land of innocent blood. You see, God will find it difficult to bless a nation where innocent blood are shed daily, there is something known as the curse of the innocent. The only way we can be free is to expose them, ask for the cleansing blood of the lamb, to cleanse our land, those politicians too, need to confess their sins and forsake them, this way, we will be making a tremendous progress in this country, or else, we will continue to pray without much success, or very little impact of answered prayers. God bless Nigeria. God2man.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Sweetnecta: 3:56pm On Jan 09, 2012
@Frosbel: « #7 on: Yesterday at 01:55:50 PM »
[Quote]In TRUE Christianity , there is separation of Religion and State akin to " give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar and give what belongs to God to God ".

In Islam , Religion and State are intertwined.[/Quote]{Joke; its a lair} Seriously, if the bold are what christianity is, you have a problem, the reason your religion is not a total guidance for man. No wonder you do not pray like Jesus prayed at Gethsemane. No wonder you people make things up as you go; singing, beating drums, playing organs, clapping hands, standing up and sitting down and your prayer is not orderly, organized, standardized, wearing all kinda clothing from show me everything to just a little but never cover up completely. When ceasar wants your tithes, then fight breaks out with man of God and his collection basket. Abeg whats true about a mirage?
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by Judek2(m): 4:09pm On Jan 09, 2012
[/quote]
Sweetnecta:

@frosbel;^^^ the same gbam will not apply to former political leaders like shagari, buhari, babangida, abacha, abdlSalaam.

you will not forget that they came from a specific tribe, region, ethnic group, their religion must be the number 1 of their identity.

the same are not applying to delta man christian kneeling president [wide brim hat pressing brain down] GEJ.

when it comes to life, different rules must apply to Islam and muslims.


@God2man: the moral of your story above since there is no punch line, is no one told you, since the driver never told anyone, but you have to make it up as Paul made up his Bible.

I think this takes care of your ranting.

[quote author=aletheia link=topic=841450.msg9921665#msg9921665 date=1326050010]
^
Why are you afraid of naming names? The political leader in question is the former governor of Nasarawa state. . .the one before the last one. His chauffeur told his family what happened before he died. That's how the story came out.
Re: Is President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan A Born Again Christian? by babsomotde(m): 10:16pm On Jan 10, 2012
That i can't say cos am not close to him and I don't know him in person. Only God know those that are His. Let's just pray for nigeria and her leaders. Thank you Jesus.

(0) (Reply)

Prophet Uebert Angel Of Zimbabwe Attacks Prophet TB Joshua During Prophecy / Some Funny Churches Name. / GOV. Raji Fashola @ Holyghost Congress 08

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (0) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2014 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See Nairalist and How To Advertise
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.