elampiro:
2012-2014 (2 seasons), Rooney 29 total goals and 8 from ouside the box.

2009-2011 (3 seasons) Rooney scored about 66 goals, and Coogar believes he didn't score 7 of them from outside the box, even though he cannot prove whoscored wrong.

* In few days time, we shall revisit your stance on Rooney playmaker role in 2011/12 season. Based on your report.

* RVP scored more from close range (within the six box) than Rooney in 2011/12. Rooney more from wihdrawn position. I will fetch that report too. That is what I said since yesterday that from close range.

coogar:

last season was an anomaly - rooney had no one to share in the freekick duties. giggs played less games than ever. nani/young were perpetually injured & RVP was injured for most parts.



you are the one with no evidence. i have been able to provide evidence of the breakdown of all the goals scored outside the box from 08/09.



that argument is dead & buried. the author of that article was talking about rooney operating behind hernandez to win the title in the second half of 2010/11 season & reaching the wembley final against barca.



so because RVP scored more from close range means rooney was from a withdrawn position? whose fault is it that rooney isn't disciplined positionally? RVP was a lone striker that year, rooney had a strike partner - the creativity was from the flanks(nani + young + valencia)

so what was rooney doing from deep? how many assists did rooney make that season if he was operating from deep?

elampiro:
The below is from another website, not woscored:

Over the last 3 seasons, no player has scored more Premier League goals from outside the box than Wayne Rooney (13).
.........

It looks like Rooney's 5 goals outside the box in 2011/12 were all in the EPL. I will work on this tomorrow,at least.

elampiro: Lol
Odunharry,n your article accepted that Rooney played the number 10 well.

* Did I not say the negative comments were out of hatred? Did we not see the match? Now this man is talking about leadership. How many leaders are left in the team? How long has Rooney been a leader? What is the reason for a learning curve?

coogar:

it was the same tweet released at different times this year.

coogar:

where's elfenomeno??

ChristineC: The problems at the back is not just about quality players, but not having enough time to develop understanding. If I am the coach, the next time Smalling or Jones injures themselves unnecessarily after just returning from injury, I will sell them both. A defender that cannot play five consecutive matches with his partner to form a unified base is not needed. The same too for Evans, I don't even like his football.
We will make it guys. Like Falcao's damsel tweeted, "loss of a fight doesn't mean you'll lose the war."
Our defenders should scare strikers, toughen up and play together for sometime like Kompany and Mangala, that is my stand.

Manchester United’s back four lack leaders and this image above from Match of the Day 2 is a fine example. Here, five United players are pointing to the two unmarked Leicester players in the penalty area, seemingly asking each other to take responsibility and pick them up. They have no sort of straight defensive line either.



This shows United’s dismal attempt at organising their back line. The players marked 1 (Smalling), 2 (Blackett), 3 (Rojo) and 4 (Rafael) are United’s back four in the second half. But rather than standing in a straight line, looking to catch opponents offside, United’s players have formed a diamond. It sums up the lack of shape, communication and organisation. Louis van Gaal has a big job on his hands

SetrakusRa:

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2765720/Louis-van-Gaal-one-best-coaches-world-fix-Manchester-United-s-defence.html

coogar:

not entirely....
he said he was good in the first half. 45 mins isn't 90 mins.



they weren't out of hatred - if you cannot admit rooney was shyte in the second half when we needed him the most, then you shouldn't be taken serious on this forum at all.

can 5 different articles be against rooney all of a sudden? everything they have written, i pointed out immediately after the game and you accused me of witch-hunting.

lo & behold, different articles started coming out reiterating exactly what i said on sunday. rooney was shyte on sunday especially in the second half.

elampiro:

^^
And they expected the captain to clap for them. Look at how Blackett played them onside.

These guys are good and smart but we missed the leadership of Ferdi or Vidic there. Smalling is to blame the most here.

SailorXY:
what do you think is the way forward for this team as it stands now

elampiro: Wayne Rooney:

There seems to be a lot of people who have written us off because of Sundays result but I don't see it that way. When I look around our dressing room and see the quality we have and the managers unbelievable attention to detail I have no doubts this team will be successful.

elampiro:
The team will be ok soon. Gaal is new to EPL and he's getting to know the physical approach. The front line of the team will sort itself out on its own. It might take the whole season to get to know the best combination. Situations might also warrant certain players being selected ahead of others.
Gaal has said Falcao and RVP will be striking. What if one loses form? It's gona be a rumble.
Mata appear to score from close rage, same playing and scoring region of RVP and Falcao. So it makes sense to me to play Rooney alog who scored from distance. That could favour a 4-3-3. But as I let the players rumble.
It's unfortunate somewhat to have all of them in one team without adequate matches. If our defence and midfield is solid, any one who plays behind the strikers will deliver. We get bullied by physical teams in the midfield.

capricornian:

Elampiro, can I ask you some questions my bro?

1- Do you think Rooney's performances compared to when he was younger are improving, stagnant or on the down hill?

2- If you were to buy 'a Rooney' which would you prefer.... A Rooney of some 6years back or the Rooney of now?

3- What are those attributes or qualities that can make Rooney a better player?

Thank you

coogar:

over 3 years ago would be between january 2011 & the night of the champions league final - when SAF preferred rooney/hernandez combo to berbatov/hernandez.

in 11/12, it was mostly rooney & welbeck in attack. hernandez was injured & berbatov had limited starts. stop posting if you don't understand simple english.

coogar:

finally, the writer was talking about the season rooney operated behind hernandez - mostly in europe when we got to champions league final & when we destroyed chelsea in the title race.

that was the last time rooney had any decent performance in the hole.

BinghiNya: Wazza is the bomb, he won't be benched. RVP will sit on the Bench as he offers little, his goal scoring hides nothing.