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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


Ibrahimovic is not a reject. He left because of his discord with Guardiola. He couldn't play under Guardiola, so he left.

You don't what is a reject. Even Ozil is not a reject. He couldn't fight for his place so he left. Costa and Aguero was the top strikers of their clubs when they left.

Zlatan was bought for huge money and sent out within a year. Madrid rejected Ozil. You can paint their exit in bright colors all you like

Sanchez, Yaya were all rejected from La Liga
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On Aug 01, 2015
pelvicky:
leverkusen/ mocheng....wu take 4th abeg?

Leverkusen
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:12pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:
Every year top 5 Balon D or mention the last time an EPL player made it

World cup top scorer mention the last time an EPL player made it

World cup best player mention the last time a player in the EPL made it


Neymar was never in top 5 Balon D'or while at Santos, but this year, he will be because he's at the best team.

You are missing the point. Madrid and Barca has the best team but their league are boring!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:15pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


Neymar was never in top 5 Balon D'or while at Santos, but this year, he will be because he's at the best team.

You are missing the point. Madrid and Barca has the best team but their league are boring!!

The past 2 seasons the La Liga was decided later than the EPL yes its boring

Not everyone wants to watch 20 technically and tactically handicapped teams kick and follow over 90mins

That is why La Liga select skilled players and the La Liga rejects become instant hits in the technically disabled EPL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:16pm On Aug 01, 2015
darkenedrebel:


coming close to winning does not equate to winning it

Valencia & Sevilla usually place 3rd/4th or 5th
even Espanyol once topped La Liga for some weeks

every league has its super-powers - not only la liga.

It doesn't equate but it counts.

Valencia and Sevilla are always 3rd and 4th with A HUGE GAP BETWEEN 2ND and 1ST, that's the difference.

La Liga super powers are TWO, EPL is 4 or even 5.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:17pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


Neymar was never in top 5 Balon D'or while at Santos, but this year, he will be because he's at the best team.

You are missing the point. Madrid and Barca has the best team but their league are boring!!

That didnt stop Neymar from being a star at the Confed cup and the world cup

Which big international stage can we count on EPL players to deliver? None
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:18pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


When was the last time Arsenal made top 2 in the league? Make una dey lie small small

I am sure Villareal has been closer to winning La Liga than Arsenal have to EPL in recent times

But twice, Assanal has come close to winning it before flopping to Man Utd. Remember Gallas in tears when the league was grabbed from their hands?

Looserfool lost the league twice to Man Utd and Chelsea at the dying minute.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


It doesn't equate but it counts.

Valencia and Sevilla are always 3rd and 4th with A HUGE GAP BETWEEN 2ND and 1ST, that's the difference.

La Liga super powers are TWO, EPL is 4 or even 5.

La liga was decided later than EPL in the past 2 seasons

SO what isyour point
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:21pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


But twice, Assanal has come close to winning it before flopping to Man Utd. Remember Gallas in tears when the league was grabbed from their hands?

Looserfool lost the league twice to Man Utd and Chelsea at the dying minute.

Which year was that? WHen did Arsenal come 2nd in the league last?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


Zlatan was bought for huge money and sent out within a year. Madrid rejected Ozil. You can paint their exit in bright colors all you like

Sanchez, Yaya were all rejected from La Liga

Nah. Saying Zlatan is a reject is like Maria is a Man Utd reject. Maria was never rejected, Man Utd didn't want to sell. They just decided to move on even when the club would have hold on them if they stayed.

Yes, Yaya and Sanchez is Barca reject not La Liga reject. Many club in Liga would have wanted them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:30pm On Aug 01, 2015
Barca were so glad to sell Zlatan, Di Maria forced Man Utd hand to sell from reports I am hearing
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:31pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


La liga was decided later than EPL in the past 2 seasons

SO what isyour point

Last season, though decided late, we knew the title was between Barca and Madrid. It's only last 2 season that you can make a case for.

Okay, what of the last 7seasons nko? Wasn't the title clearly between Barca and Madrid?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:32pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


Which year was that? WHen did Arsenal come 2nd in the league last?

Haba!! Dayo, Arsenal was close to winning the league before Man Utd toppled them at the ending. I'll google the season later and show you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:41pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:
Barca were so glad to sell Zlatan, Di Maria forced Man Utd hand to sell from reports I am hearing

You are re-echoing my sentiments.

Man Utd never wanted to sell Maria, the fans still adore him, he forced our hands. He's no reject. He's doing the same thing De Gea is doing.

At Madrid, Maria wanted more money, Madrid said no they could pay a specific amount not close to what Maria wanted, so Maria went to Man Utd. Money was the issue not performance problem. He even wanted PSG but FFP stopped the deal, so he came to Man Utd. Now the FFP is down, like a money-monger, he's forcing his way to PSG. He's no reject, he loves money, simples!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:45pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


2009 How many years ago was that? 6 when Ballack and Essien were still key players

Only La Liga teams have been stopping Atletico in the CL for the past 2 seasons.

CL semi now is 2 La Liga teams while EPL na quarter

2015 No EPL club made semi none also in quarters (2 La Liga)
2014 One EPL club made semi (2 La Liga)
2013 No EPL club made semi none even made quarters (2 La Liga)
2012 Only one EPL club semi (2 La Liga)
C'mon dude wth is wrong wit u?? So Chelsea vs PSG in 2015 was played in group stage abi??
In 2014 Chelsea vs Athletico and/or United vs Bayern was also in the qualifying rounds abi??
Abeg Gerrarahere and stop lie-ing undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 7:48pm On Aug 01, 2015
Suarez first season in EPL ended with 4league goals, a certain man.utd flop diego forlan was an instant hit in la liga(we should not also 4get dat an unkown michu was also an instant hit in the EPL), an ageing van nistelroojy at the age of 30 won the pichichi in his la liga debut season (a feat no la liga import in the EPL has archeived) sneijder van dar vart nd robben were all shipped out of madrid but that doesn't mean the are bad players, di maria dat madrid bought was not better than robben, neither are khedira nd lassana diara better than sneijder, our own british balon d'or winner micheal owen was one of the hottest properties in england nd europe during de early 2000's, but was lost wen he went to ply his trade in la liga, same goes to negredo nd soldado,
so what am i trying to say? A players performance in a certain league doesn't tell the difference between other leagues, because Fabregas nd sanchez de liga rejects (as u guys claimed) are lightening up the EPL doesn't make the EPL a weaker league, after all the Epl player of the year raumdueter is labelin as piaus ikedia nd announcin to the whole nairaland his woes in european club tournaments, forced the german player of the year kevin de bruyne (if i'm not mistaken) out of the chelsea first team, so what do you have to say about that? Even a certain llorente dat teared man.u defence to shreds was glued to the bench by a certain young alvaro morota; so the strength of a league doesn't depends on the best teams, but the best competition nd entertainment, In germany we only watch dortmund vs bayern which is likely to change to wolfburg vs bayern dis season, in spain barca vs madrid, in italy NONE! In france NONE! IN England.. Man.u vs man.city, arsenal vs chelsea, liverpool vs everto, tottenham vs arsenal, man.u vs liverpoo, man.city vs tottenham, man.u vs chelsea, arsenal vs man.u de list goes on nd on, La liga by no doubt blows the epl out of the water when it comes to better/flashy players and even boost the better teams, but the competition nd entertainment is in the EPL.. THE REAL DEAL IS IN ENGLAND, take it or leave it! Its a fact every true football fan knows!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:49pm On Aug 01, 2015
ManU fans please who has the pix of our latest away addidas jersey.,,thanks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:52pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:

Last season, though decided late, we knew the title was between Barca and Madrid. It's only last 2 season that you can make a case for.

Okay, what of the last 7seasons nko? Wasn't the title clearly between Barca and Madrid?

Last season who were those teams competing for epl
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:55pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


You are re-echoing my sentiments.

Man Utd never wanted to sell Maria, the fans still adore him, he forced our hands. He's no reject. He's doing the same thing De Gea is doing.

At Madrid, Maria wanted more money, Madrid said no they could pay a specific amount not close to what Maria wanted, so Maria went to Man Utd. Money was the issue not performance problem. He even wanted PSG but FFP stopped the deal, so he came to Man Utd. Now the FFP is down, like a money-monger, he's forcing his way to PSG. He's no reject, he loves money, simples!!

How is di maria case with Madrid or man utd similar to Zlatan with Barça
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Aug 01, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
C'mon dude wth is wrong wit u?? So Chelsea vs PSG in 2015 was played in group stage abi??
In 2014 Chelsea vs Athletico and/or United vs Bayern was also in the qualifying rounds abi??
Abeg Gerrarahere and stop lie-ing undecided

Point the lie in my post you quoted
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:06pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


How is di maria case with Madrid or man utd similar to Zlatan with Barça

Hahaha. Dayo, you are like an eel. You keep circumventing around and away from the truth.

Maria and Zlatan's case are not exactly like but both are not rejects.

Maria's was money issue, while Zlatan's case was player-coach beef. But none was rejected.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:10pm On Aug 01, 2015
Zlatan was not wanted by the team Barça

Di maria is the one avoiding man utd
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:11pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


2009 How many years ago was that? 6 when Ballack and Essien were still key players

Only La Liga teams have been stopping Atletico in the CL for the past 2 seasons.

CL semi now is 2 La Liga teams while EPL na quarter

2015 No EPL club made semi none also in quarters (2 La Liga)
2014 One EPL club made semi (2 La Liga)
2013 No EPL club made semi none even made quarters (2 La Liga)
2012 Only one EPL club semi (2 La Liga)

I gat you U. Football started 2 years ago. The one won by Mikel, Ramires, Torres, Terry, Ivanovic, Louiz, etc should be written off. Even Rooney is still active. Gerrard, Lampard all still active. But the UCL they won should be confined to 1929 just to make case for Laliga.

Dayo go and zleep. This argument is over.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:18pm On Aug 01, 2015
elampiro:


I gat you U. Football started 2 years ago. The one won by Mikel, Ramires, Torres, Terry, Ivanovic, Louiz, etc should be written off. Even Rooney is still active. Gerrard, Lampard all still active. But the UCL they won should be confined to 1929 just to make case for Laliga.

Dayo go and zleep. This argument is over.

It's logical that recent events have more weight than those that happened long ago else should we say Milan is currently a top side because they won the CL 8 yrs ago
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:23pm On Aug 01, 2015
Di Maria was sent to the bench. He was poor in his last game while he was still in the starting 11. Then Januzaj was sent to replace him, and Januzaj created the much needed goal to break the deadlock.

That was the end of Di Maria as a first team player in Man United.

The only reason Gaal could possibly be calling his name as our player is because PSG are yet to meet the asking price.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:26pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


It's logical that recent events have more weight than those that happened long ago else should we say Milan is currently a top side because they won the CL 8 yrs ago

So a UCL won by Ramires, Ivanovic and Luiz is not recent?

Okay. I hear.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 8:27pm On Aug 01, 2015
weedtaker:
Suarez first season in EPL ended with 4league goals, a certain man.utd flop diego forlan was an instant hit in la liga(we should not also 4get dat an unkown michu was also an instant hit in the EPL), an ageing van nistelroojy at the age of 30 won the pichichi in his la liga debut season (a feat no la liga import in the EPL has archeived) sneijder van dar vart nd robben were all shipped out of madrid but that doesn't mean the are bad players, di maria dat madrid bought was not better than robben, neither are khedira nd lassana diara better than sneijder, our own british balon d'or winner micheal owen was one of the hottest properties in england nd europe during de early 2000's, but was lost wen he went to ply his trade in la liga, same goes to negredo nd soldado,
so what am i trying to say? A players performance in a certain league doesn't tell the difference between other leagues, because Fabregas nd sanchez de liga rejects (as u guys claimed) are lightening up the EPL doesn't make the EPL a weaker league, after all the Epl player of the year raumdueter is hi labelin as piaus ikedia nd announcin to the whole nairaland his woes in european club tournaments, forced the german player of the year kevin de bruyne (if i'm not mistaken) out of the chelsea first team, so what do you have to say about that? Even a certain llorente dat teared man.u defence to shreds was glued to the bench by a certain young alvaro morota; so the strength of a league doesn't depends on the best teams, but the best competition nd entertainment, In germany we only watch dortmund vs bayern which is likely to change to wolfburg vs bayern dis season, in spain barca vs madrid, in italy NONE! In france NONE! IN England.. Man.u vs man.city, arsenal vs chelsea, liverpool vs everto, tottenham vs arsenal, man.u vs liverpoo, man.city vs tottenham, man.u vs chelsea, arsenal vs man.u de list goes on nd on, La liga by no doubt blows the epl out of the water when it comes to better/flashy players and even boost the better teams, but the competition nd entertainment is in the EPL.. THE REAL DEAL IS IN ENGLAND, take it or leave it! Its a fact every true football fan knows!

You were making sense till you started rating Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham, Liverpool matches among the elite ones.

I can't believe you could rate their matches alongside Barca vs Madrid.

None of these teams can stand the likes of Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla, Bilbao and Sociedad.

Barca and Madrid alongside Bayern stand head and shoulders above all other teams in Europe. Never you compare el-clasico with any matches that EPL can provide.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:28pm On Aug 01, 2015
oga ramdeuter abeg answer me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 8:33pm On Aug 01, 2015
sinizia:


Nah. Saying Zlatan is a reject is like Maria is a Man Utd reject. Maria was never rejected, Man Utd didn't want to sell. They just decided to move on even when the club would have hold on them if they stayed.

Yes, Yaya and Sanchez is Barca reject not La Liga reject. Many club in Liga would have wanted them.

Point of correction...

Zlatan was offloaded from Barca. He wanted to be the face of barcelona, but was rejected. Messi was the anointed one, and our decision has been 100% successful.

Sanchez was rejected because he was not just good enough.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:36pm On Aug 01, 2015
weedtaker:
oga ramdeuter abeg answer me.

What's your question
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:38pm On Aug 01, 2015
Debroslink:


You were making sense till you started rating Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham, Liverpool matches among the elite ones.

I can't believe you could rate their matches alongside Barca vs Madrid.

None of these teams can stand the likes of Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla, Bilbao and Sociedad.

Barca and Madrid alongside Bayern stand head and shoulders above all other teams in Europe. Never you compare el-clasico with any matches that EPL can provide.
oga mi dat's wan i'm trying to say, arsenal can not match the likes of valencia nd co. I agree, that's why i pointed out that la liga has the better teams, but the league they play in is not as competetive as the one everton nd arsenal play in. That's ma point. Bayern barca nd madrid stands ahead of the whole english teams in europe i also agree, but we are talking about leagues here not teams, bayern stands head nd shoulders but dia league is not as competetive nd stronger dan de EPL. Dats ma point bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:38pm On Aug 01, 2015
raumdeuter:


La liga was decided later than EPL in the past 2 seasons

SO what isyour point

Thats bcoz Epl starts & finishes its season at least a week b4 law ga

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