all4naija: God argument based on fallacy. It is right we define God first before making claim of religion God(as most of you are already distancing yourselves from religion God in your comments).

1. God has been defined - he's the creator.
2. What do you mean by "religion God" and who's making a claim of him?
3. Nobody is distancing themselves from anything. Deism does not start out from the backyard of any religion.

thehomer:
Actually, it does because it would mean that God would need to have a body to be considered as being a conscious entity. If he does have a body, then it would mean that he exists in space and time.

I doubt it's possible to discuss this properly since your concept of "body" begins and ends with the physical.

Deep Sight:
@ thehomer, I heard you are in real life a Pastor at Mountain of Fire and Miracles.

hmmm!

Deep Sight:
@ thehomer, I heard you are in real life a Pastor at Mountain of Fire and Miracles.

hmmm!

MyJoe:
. . . .
I doubt it's possible to discuss this properly since your concept of "body" begins and ends with the physical.

We may as well end this here because i really don't understand what you mean when you talk of a non-physical body with respect to consciousness.

thehomer:

Your dull and lazy attempt at obfuscation and time wasting means this part of the discussion has come to an end. Next time, if you wish to have a serious discussion, first present your argument.

You are the lazy one. And you just proved it by not responding to my well-thought out statements. You need to go back and read philosophy and while doing that familiarize yourself with Aquinas and his proofs.

thehomer:

Means that what is progressive? Christianity or science? If Christianity, just how progressive can it be when it is all tied down to a Book?

Not quite. It's more about character building and fellowship. Besides, you seem to forget that early Christians didn't have the Bible as we do.

MyJoe:
I just took a look at the write-up. It’s well-written and I’d like to find time to read everything, but my thinking right now is that the writer appears stuck in his materialist universe. I think the problem is, perhaps, that you guys look for things spiritual with the tools of science.

In asserting that consciousness cannot exist outside of a body because of observations made of humans, science or philosophy may be off its turf.

BTW, if a body is needed to have consciousness, it doesn't take anything away from the God argument.

Ok boss.

Deep Sight:

In fact i heard him shouting, satan, die, die, die! outside their church

Depends on what tribe theHomer is. Where I served in Nnewi, they were shouting "Nwon Nwon Nwon" (my humble transcription).

Edit:
@TheHomer
Boss, na joke we dey oh.

Deep Sight:

In fact i heard him shouting, satan, die, die, die! outside their church

Are you sure it was me?

You would be hard pressed to find me attending at any church though.

MyJoe:
1. God has been defined - he's the creator.
2. What do you mean by "religion God" and who's making a claim of him?
3. Nobody is distancing themselves from anything. Deism does not start out from the backyard of any religion.


I doubt it's possible to discuss this properly since your concept of "body" begins and ends with the physical.

You are very funny.

1. God is now synonymous with creator? If God is creator what did it create? Should we accept the creator of the Bible, Koran ,The Hindu script,etc?

2. Religion is an established way of belief and worship of supernatural beings(fairies). Greeks have good history for gods.

3. Come on, some of you were quick to claim different gods and some also assert that existence of god is evident in nature - which is different from the mainstream belief that God spoke to people in the past, revealed to them his book and presence and send his only begotten son(Bwhahaha...)

jayriginal:

Depends on what tribe theHomer is. Where I served in Nnewi, they were shouting "Nwon Nwon Nwon" (my humble transcription).

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@TheHomer
Boss, na joke we dey oh.

Don't worry. There won't be a protest against the post with people demanding for decapitation. Deep Sight should be safe for now. But if there were cartoons, that would be taking things too far. My minions will have no choice but to start looking for embassies to invade and protest the images.

all4naija: You are very funny.

1. God is now synonymous with creator? If God is creator what did it create? Should we accept the creator of the Bible, Koran ,The Hindu script,etc?

2. Religion is an established way of belief and worship of supernatural beings(fairies). Greeks have good history for gods.

3. Come on, some of you were quick to claim different gods and some also assert that existence of god is evident in nature - which is different from the mainstream belief that God spoken to people in the past, revealed to them his book and presence and send his only begotten son(Bwhahaha...)

Creator is the most common and most basic definition of God. Maybe you really didn't know.

Not sure what the rest of what you wrote is to do with my expressed views. Read me on page 0 - people have different views about the nature of God and what he does but he means creator to most. The Greeks had gods, yeah. Bye.

According to the wikipedia article you recommended, non-intervention was a defining quality of the deist God.

Also God created the world from??

thehomer:

Don't worry. There won't be a protest against the post with people demanding for decapitation. Deep Sight should be safe for now. But if there were cartoons, that would be taking things too far. My minions will have no choice but to start looking for embassies to invade and protest the images.

that means that you have managed to suucessfully start and deploy a religion where people will believe with the whole of their heart and chant the statements

"there is no god except thehomer's God and thehomer is his messenger"

"death to anyone who insults thehomer and his god"

"the highest achievement in thehomer's religion is to kill and be killed for thehomers God"

MyJoe:
Creator is the most common and most basic definition of God. Maybe you really didn't know.

Not sure what the rest of what you wrote is to do with my expressed views. Read me on page 0 - people have different views about the nature of God and what he does but he means creator to most. The Greeks had gods, yeah. Bye.

Dude, I don't know what you are on about. You make a list which I respond to accordingly and now you don't know what the rest is all about. Thank you for your complexity. Indeed, you can not define God in the first place yet you are bent on arguing about it.

Still, there is nothing like God in the real sense. Just humanly made up to have sense of something beyond what they don't understand about many things in the environment(the natural world).

cyrexx:

that means that you have managed to suucessfully start and deploy a religion where people will believe with the whole of their heart and chant the statements

"there is no god except thehomer's God and thehomer is his messenger"

"death to anyone who insults thehomer and his god"

"the highest achievement in thehomer's religion is to kill and be killed for thehomers God"

What else would you expect from a master mind? The religious text will be out soon. Grab your copy when it's available.

all4naija: Dude, I don't know what you are on about. You make a list which I respond to accordingly and now you don't know what the rest is all about. Thank you for your complexity. Indeed, you can not define God in the first place yet you are bent on arguing about it.

Still, there is nothing like God in the real sense. Just humanly made up to have sense of something beyond what they don't understand about many things in the environment(the natural world).

Ok

thehomer:

What else would you expect from a master mind? The religious text will be out soon. Grab your copy when it's available.

Are you crazy??!!!!! You already pledged fealty to THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN. How dare you try to start your own "path to enlightenment"? The punishment for apostasy is death!!! I'm going to e-kill you.

thehomer:

What else would you expect from a master mind? The religious text will be out soon. Grab your copy when it's available.

Is Cyrexx one of "your", you know!

That he needs to buy the grand masters book?

Martian:

Are you crazy??!!!!! You already pledged fealty to THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN. How dare you try to start your own "path to enlightenment"? The punishment for apostasy is death!!! I'm going to e-kill you.

hmmm!
This promises to be worst than islam.

Martian:

Are you crazy??!!!!! You already pledged fealty to THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN. How dare you try to start your own "path to enlightenment"? The punishment for apostasy is death!!! I'm going to e-kill you.

hmmm!
This promises to be worst than islam.

Martian:

Are you crazy??!!!!! You already pledged fealty to THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN. How dare you try to start your own "path to enlightenment"? The punishment for apostasy is death!!! I'm going to e-kill you.

Mine is The Reformed Church of the Great Leprechaun aka church of thehomer. Repent of your blasphemy before I send my inquisitors after you.