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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:49pm On Apr 30, 2017
Walahi Football needs video technology like humans need water. WTF Rashford?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 12:53pm On Apr 30, 2017
Chelseafan1:


You are a retaard.

Get out of my mentions. Anuofia.


Loser!
Better go and get urself a job and stop wasting ur time online on NL and bet9ja looking for osho free cash.

Ur mates are settling down, getting married, ur own gf is dumping ur broke ass and u are here devoting ur time to quote me cheesy.

I spiri ur life
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:00pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ibime:


That may be the case but gambling is slightly different.

When you start believing your smarter than the average Joe, you will feel your punts are based on research and knowledge rather than addiction. You will see arguments even on this thread saying they use smart methods in their betting, others don't know how to punt, they are not using sense etc.

I have seen otherwise stable people blow money on stock trading in the same way. No addictive personality, just believing they have better research or better quants.

nateevs:


Exactly. I have seen otherwise stable people blow money on the Forex Trading. I don't do the 'know thyself' preach. I am more of a 'understand why you are doing it' kinda guy. Like you said, when one's reasons are trending towards desperation, and the insatiable need to win, then the addiction may just have crept in.

Addictive personality does not show on the face, so how do you know for sure that these people are actually 'stable' in the first place?

Forex and many other forms of Trading are actually forms of betting in practice, the only difference is that the risk management strategy is decided at organisational level rather than individual level at hedge funds.

Individual traders are no really no different to bettors. You generally do your research, then you take a position and back it with your funds. You already know there is a risk of losing your money, but you have a strategy to mitigate your risk by either sticking to low risk, low returns trades/bets, or reducing the amount of money you are willing to spend.

Addictive personalities will often forgo the research bits and make moves based on hunches or gut feeling. These are the people that throw logic out of the window during their thought process. It won't show on the face bro.

That's why all man must know himself before they start any new ventures.

For every Greg Coffey, there's a Kweku Adoboli. Know thyself.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:10pm On Apr 30, 2017
E joo, ti e ba n wo ball yin l'osan yi, e ma me buscuiti o.

Buscuiti l'ata ninu o
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:12pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nihilist:






Addictive personality does not show on the face, so how do you know for sure that these people are actually 'stable' in the first place?

Forex and many other forms of Trading are actually forms of betting in practice, the only difference is that the risk management strategy is decided at organisational level rather than individual level at hedge funds.

Individual traders are no really no different to bettors. You generally do your research, then you take a position and back it with your funds. You already know there is a risk of losing your money, but you have a strategy to mitigate your risk by either sticking to low risk, low returns trades/bets, or reducing the amount of money you are willing to spend.

Addictive personalities will often forgo the research bits and make moves based on hunches or gut feeling. These are the people that throw logic out of the window during their thought process. It won't show on the face bro.

That's why all man must know himself before they start any new ventures.

For every Greg Coffey, there's a Kweku Adoboli. Know thyself.

I think this is theoretical observation. Practically speaking, have you ever met an addictive personality with self control? Or an addictive personality who knows thyself?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:19pm On Apr 30, 2017
nateevs:


I think this is theoretical observation. Practically speaking, have you ever met an addictive personality with self control? Or an addictive personality who knows thyself?

My wife is an assistant psychologist with G4S. These are the kind of people she deals with on a daily basis, especially within the criminal justice system. The concept of Know Thyself us at the heart of CBT.

That's exactly what they teach at AA or Gambling Anonymous meetings.

You need to know yourself and know your triggers and your limits first, before you can be free of addiction.

Otherwise you might abstain from Gambling but the same impulses will lead to you get addicted to even mojo.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 1:19pm On Apr 30, 2017
Me wey I go put 20K n Chelsea/ PSG and city win, receive 60K sharp sharp
Withdraw 40, use the other 20 to stake again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:27pm On Apr 30, 2017
I will say dont start betting because you dont know where it will leave you. You probably wont know the type of inbuilt restraint you have

I knew I didnt have betting luck early, If we play dice for fun I will be winning once we put money I will start losing, same with Kashi So I stopped

But later I started football betting and felt it was more of a knowledge thing than just rolling a dice and hoping to hit 6. I started betting on Tennis and football and initially I won actually one of my big wins of $1,820 on a 12 game accumulator for some Euro U21 games that made the bulk of the money for my first car in US.

After that I became bolder, Friends will even come to collect picks from me. I had another near miss in 2009 where one game stopped a $6k win. I thought I had mastered it until I went on a 6months spree of back to back losses and several thousands of dollars

With TKB we would draw excel sheet of all games in Europe do several risk assesment (Pick only supposedly sure games where the gap on the league table between the teams were at least 10) review last 5 results put in a lot of informed guesses but we were copping losses back to back. I started making single games bet, In game bet. I remember World cup 2010 Ghana vs Serbia playing a drab game no one created any chance for 75mins, I just put $200 on the game ending in a draw, few mins later a Serbian guy from a non threatening position fouled in the box and Asamoah Gyan buried the goal and my money.

I also did a 12 game accumulator where everyone won but PSG, That game they had 32 shots to the opponent 5 and still drew.

It was after we have collected enough L's that tkb just brought the idea that assuming we go to the other side and we were the ones owning the betting shop and dishing nigg@s the L. We did several research and I had a discussion with my stat profesor and he told me statistically you can never lose by owning a betting shop because the low odds take care of the risk. "Owning a betting shop is illegal in the US but if its legal in your country go for it You can never lose"
That was what led him to start the betting company which has made him millions and continues to give

Today the economy of Nigeria has pushed many guys have gone into it not knowing what they are really doing. 1 million guys hook on to the story of 1 guy who won and all dive into it. Have they ever thought of it why the owners are becoming richer and they poorer.

I have guys even with good jobs in Nigeria who call me for football picks from Bundesliga

I have gone to Vegas to play poker with a little cash though for the fun of it
My betting account with draftkings has $300 unused sitting in it and I havent used for like a year,

Best advice, Dont start it. It will suck you in thinking your next bet will be your lucky break

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:38pm On Apr 30, 2017
Siggurdson freekick na Nakamura levels o.

See freekick shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 1:39pm On Apr 30, 2017
Chelsea team today: Courtois; Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill (c); Moses, Kante, Matic, Alonso; Pedro, Diego Costa, Hazard. #EVECHE
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 1:39pm On Apr 30, 2017
Chelsea substitutes: Begovic, Zouma, Ake, Chalobah, Fabregas, Willian, Batshuayi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 1:40pm On Apr 30, 2017
Everton team: Stekelenburg, Holgate, Jagielka (c), Williams, Calvert-Lewin, Baines, Gueye, Davies, Barkley, Valencia, Lukaku. #EVECHE
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:40pm On Apr 30, 2017
raumdeuter:
I will say dont start betting because you dont know where it will leave you. You probably wont know the type of inbuilt restraint you have

I knew I didnt have betting luck early, If we play dice for fun I will be winning once we put money I will start losing, same with Kashi So I stopped

But later I started football betting and felt it was more of a knowledge thing than just rolling a dice and hoping to hit 6. I started betting on Tennis and football and initially I won actually one of my big wins of $1,820 on a 12 game accumulator for some Euro U21 games that made the bulk of the money for my first car in US.

After that I became bolder, Friends will even come to collect picks from me. I had another near miss in 2009 where one game stopped a $6k win. I thought I had mastered it until I went on a 6months spree of back to back losses and several thousands of dollars

With TKB we would draw excel sheet of all games in Europe do several risk assesment (Pick only supposedly sure games where the gap on the league table between the teams were at least 10) review last 5 results put in a lot of informed guesses but we were copping losses back to back. I started making single games bet, In game bet. I remember World cup 2010 Ghana vs Serbia playing a drab game no one created any chance for 75mins, I just put $200 on the game ending in a draw, few mins later a Serbian guy from a non threatening position fouled in the box and Asamoah Gyan buried the goal and my money.

I also did a 12 game accumulator where everyone won but PSG, That game they had 32 shots to the opponent 5 and still drew.

It was after we have collected enough L's that tkb just brought the idea that assuming we go to the other side and we were the ones owning the betting shop and dishing nigg@s the L. We did several research and I had a discussion with my stat profesor and he told me statistically you can never lose by owning a betting shop because the low odds take care of the risk. "Owning a betting shop is illegal in the US but if its legal in your country go for it You can never lose"
That was what led him to start the betting company which has made him millions and continues to give

Today the economy of Nigeria has pushed many guys have gone into it not knowing what they are really doing. 1 million guys hook on to the story of 1 guy who won and all dive into it. Have they ever thought of it why the owners are becoming richer and they poorer.

I have guys even with good jobs in Nigeria who call me for football picks from Bundesliga

I have gone to Vegas to play poker with a little cash though for the fun of it
My betting account with draftkings has $300 unused sitting in it and I havent used for like a year,

Best advice, Dont start it. It will suck you in thinking your next bet will be your lucky break
Name of TKB betting company please
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:41pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nihilist:


My wife is an assistant psychologist with G4S. These are the kind of people she deals with on a daily basis, especially within the criminal justice system. The concept of Know Thyself us at the heart of CBT.

That's exactly what they teach at AA or Gambling Anonymous meetings.

You need to know yourself and know your triggers and your limits first, before you can be free of addiction.

Otherwise you might abstain from Gambling but the same impulses will lead to you get addicted to even mojo.


I would have thought the 'know thyself' you referred to earlier was related to 'knowing limits'; meaning, have a bet but know when to stop. This to me is all the wrong advice for addictive personalities.

On the other hand, I feel the 'know thyself' taught at AA will be related to complete abstinence; meaning 'know that you are an addictive person and abstain completely'. This is what Ibime and I are talking about.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 1:43pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nihilist:
Siggurdson freekick na Nakamura levels o.
See freekick shocked
Siggurdson should be the most underrated player in EPL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:48pm On Apr 30, 2017
Bettors always believe they are in control and that they are smart people with sheer knowledge of everything. The truth is that's where addiction starts and it also shows you are on the way to degeneration once you start having this warped mentality that you are in charge.
You are not because bookies are smiling to the bank at your expense.

"Know thyself" is a warped mantra
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:48pm On Apr 30, 2017
nateevs:



I would have thought the 'know thyself' you referred to earlier was related to 'knowing limits'; meaning, have a bet but know when to stop. This to me is all the wrong advice for addictive personalities.

On the other hand, I feel the 'know thyself' taught at AA will be related to complete abstinence; meaning 'know that you are an addictive person and abstain completely'. This is what Ibime and I are talking about.

What I'm saying is not contradicting your posts. In fact it complements it. What I've been saying is this- it might not be enough to abstain from Gambling, your impulses might manifest in a different form - it could be drugs, it could be booze, it could be women.

I think that it's important continue to monitor ourselves and look out for behaviour and thought processes that lead to habit forming behaviour, that could crystallize into an addiction...for example, even something as benign as Nairalanding could be a serious addiction if left to spiral out of control.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Tochex101(m): 1:49pm On Apr 30, 2017
Olaone1:
Name of TKB betting company please
Stakers den, I followed the story then too but Stakers den ain't doing too well again....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:51pm On Apr 30, 2017
Tochex101:

Stakers den, I followed the story then too but Stakers den ain't doing too well again....
Not doing well from what I know
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:52pm On Apr 30, 2017
Sirgudson and ericksen same type of players with same style of play.. We shouldn't allow this dead ball specialist to waste ...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 1:58pm On Apr 30, 2017
lordfalcao:
Sirgudson and ericksen same type of players with same style of play.. We shouldn't allow this dead ball specialist to waste ...


Ur own Fabregas sef never see first team shirt, u dey think of Erikson

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 2:00pm On Apr 30, 2017
Nihilist:


What I'm saying is not contradicting your posts. In fact it complements it. What I've been saying is this- it might not be enough to abstain from Gambling, your impulses might manifest in a different form - it could be drugs, it could be booze, it could be women.

I think that it's important continue to monitor ourselves and look out for behaviour and thought processes that lead to habit forming behaviour, that could crystallize into an addiction...for example, even something as benign as Nairalanding could be a serious addiction if left to spiral out of control.


Good Point!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 2:05pm On Apr 30, 2017
Here we go
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:09pm On Apr 30, 2017
Elnino4ladies:


Siggurdson should be the most underrated player in EPL

True talk

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 2:10pm On Apr 30, 2017
SeekinAttention:



Loser!
Better go and get urself a job and stop wasting ur time online on NL and bet9ja looking for osho free cash.

Ur mates are settling down, getting married, ur own gf is dumping ur broke ass and u are here devoting ur time to quote me cheesy.

I spiri ur life

Weyrey alasho, roaming about nairaland looking for attention, what have done or achieved in your miserable life, tell me.

The bets you are staking on, to what purpose?

Oloshi, alainitiju, alainironu, eleriibu, apoda, ara galatia.

Go feed on some cow dung.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:10pm On Apr 30, 2017
So Idrissa Gueye dey man mark Hazard abi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 2:12pm On Apr 30, 2017
I just love Pedro's drive. Dude knows how to unsettle an organized defense line.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 2:12pm On Apr 30, 2017
I thought gueye was man marking hazard.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 2:12pm On Apr 30, 2017
Make lukaku no come audition for Costa job today.
I want the kain rubbish performance e give for the 2nd leg for the Liverpool game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 2:14pm On Apr 30, 2017
Ibime:
So Idrissa Gueye dey man mark Hazard abi
these PL coaches are foolish . so na to dey man mark hazard dey reign now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 2:16pm On Apr 30, 2017
R. Koeman is utilizing Mous tactics of man marking Hazard with I. Gueye, thus far, it seems to be working. Maybe a yellow card on Gueye may change everything.

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