stinkmeaner:
D way oga nihilist take dey emphasize this "sunken place" ehhnn

If you have a camera phone please borrow conte abeg

popizaino:
Do you know the amount of assists and goal fabregas had in his short spell at barca compared to iniesta?would you now say fabregas is better than iniesta for such favourable stats?


your brain is meant for thinking bro you can do better?

Agba iya. Did I tell you anybody is better than anybody oponu

airmark:


Anytime you guys meet a dumb chelsea fan, dont call him a shekpite or whatever name, call him a lordfalcao.

Gaddemit!


Cc: bigkesh

lordfalcao:
last season fab was throwing passes while coming from the bench, they told us it was what we are missing. This season he has been handed a more advanced role, we don't see the passes, we don't even see a decent job in the midfield.

We even lost the forward drive of Kante this season. Last season, Kante used to burst into opponents final third regularly creating overloads that unsettle the opposition. This season, I can't remember the last time Kante drove forward regularly like that because he is too busy bodyguarding the incompetent Fabregas and Donkeyoko at the back.

I tried to explain last season the the two man midfield is a LCM and RCM arrangement. Matic worked the left-side and Kante the right-side. Both are defensive midfielders primarily with occasional licence to move forward. But some people who knew better were screaming for Fabregas claiming it's a DM and AM arrangement, and that Kante is the DM, so Fabregas should come in to play AM.

Oasis007:


Seem some Chelsea Fans are arguing with Emotion instead of being critically objective?! Though Conte ain't to be wholly blamed, but he must definitely share from the Blames.

Nothing is wrong with the Formation - 3 - 5 - 2 or 3 - 4 - 3 - rather the Personnel executing it. Conte needs to play the right Players in the Midfield.

I suggest he tries out Kante and Drinkwater Pivot in a 3 - 4 - 3 Setting with Morata, Hazard and Pedro/Willian in Attack.

Correct. Personnel is the only difference. Drinkbleach is our last roll of the dice but I'm not holding my breath.

Nihilist:


Morata is the only player in the team whos job description is primarily to score goals. If hes not scoring, the team struggles

The reason you're asking for other people to share the goalscoring burden is because our number 9 is in the sunken place.

Willian and Pedro are trying and they do well when they play. They score when they play.

Hazard has been very foolish this season too and of course thats also affecting the team

But i cannot overlook the fact that our number 9 has recieved better service than any other striker in the league, including Aguero and Harry Kane, and is still the most wasteful striker in the entire league.

Its a BIG problem if our striker cannot sink a simple ball in the back of the net.

Chelsea play a 3 man front and not a target man. They should score As much as morata has scored or score more than that.

City have sterling with a hand in 18 goals, sane a hand in 15 goals, Jesus a hand in 10 goals. These players are other attackers man city have. Not to mention their midfields

Man u have martial a hand in 10 goals, lingard a hand in 11 goals, rashford a hand in 9 goals. Excluding lukaku mhiktaryan, and the rest these players are other attackers man u have. Not to mention the ones that came from midfield

Spurs have son with a hand in 12 goals, Alli and sterling with a hand in 12 goals each.

The same goes to Liverpool with salah, countinho and mane? What is the difference ? These teams are scoring more, their attacker scoring almost same with their strikers or more than their strikers. Compare this with your attackers and point out any of hazard, Pedro, Willian have had a hand in goals more than this players listed.

Conte have already pointed it out, the team should score more. If you don't see this but heap it on Morata because of your misunderstanding around his persona. Nothing can be done to remedy your views about him.

Nihilist:

In my opinion, which Conte agrees with, even when we play 343, we are more defensively solid than we were last season, so any argument about bakayoko or fab not being able to play 2 man midfield is dust.

We have not played 3-4-3 against any decent team this season, only relegation candidates that don't create chances.

No English you speak will absolve the incompetence of Donkeyoko and Fibreglass which we warned repeatedly about and have been vindicated.

Wisdom from the mouth of Lordfalcao.

lordfalcao:
This season we have been playing big teams with 3-5-2 because conte doesn't trust any of fab or bakayoko to do what matic was doing with kante. This is what kante vs matic did all through last season against bigger teams without qualms. Now we have to pack midfield like sardine before playing a decent game against a better side.

Nihilist:


Of course you wont see Fab's passes because of the way you watch footy

CC in the chart below does not stand for credit card.

BCC in the chart does not mean Blind Copy

what is the difference between them? Fab only have a hand in half of the goals and assist they have provided this season in the EPL. This is not the attack you were clamoring from Fab all through last season.

Greatihex:
All these rival fans making noise here because hazard is off form are not surprising me. I remember you gathered here to call him a fraud and one season wonder in 2015/2016 but lost your voice in 2016/2017.

He is off form now. You guys should not worry, you will still disappear and lost your voices soon.


For those saying that we are playing with 9 defensive minded players, is moses, fab and hazard among them?

Do you classify Moses as an attacking player?

lordfalcao:
Chelsea play a 3 man front and not a target man. They should score As much as morata has scored or score more than that.

City have sterling with a hand in 18 goals, sane a hand in 15 goals, Jesus a hand in 10 goals. These players are other attackers man city have. Not to mention their midfields

Man u have martial a hand in 10 goals, lingard a hand in 11 goals, rashford a hand in 9 goals. Excluding lukaku mhiktaryan, and the rest these players are other attackers man u have. Not to mention the ones that came from midfield

Spurs have son with a hand in 12 goals, Alli and sterling with a hand in 12 goals each.

The same goes to Liverpool with salah, countinho and mane? What is the difference ? These teams are scoring more, their attacker scoring almost same with their strikers or more than their strikers. Compare this with your attackers and point out any of hazard, Pedro, Willian have had a hand in goals more than this players listed.

Conte have already pointed it out, the team should score more. If you don't see this but heap it on Morata because of your misunderstanding around his persona. Nothing can be done to remedy your views about him.

I have never said other players dont need to step up. What i said was that Morata needs to escape the sunken place.

And FYI, we do play a target man system. Im about to drive off now so i cant post it, but therss a couple of interviews out there where chelsea players talk about the striker being the reference point for play at all times, and how the whole team plays for the striker.

In conclusion, i agree with you that the likes of Hazard and Bakayoko need to step up to score....but Morata desperately needs to escape from his sunken oblivion.

Kevin DeBruyne has created the most chances in the league this season, and the most big chances.

Fabregas is second to only KDB in chance creation in the league this seasin and has created only 3 fewer Big chances than the Belgian- Morata needs exploit that creativity and use it to escape the sunken place.

lordfalcao:
what is the difference between them? Fab only have a hand in half of the goals and assist they have provided this season in the EPL. This is not the attack you were clamoring from Fab all through last season.

Whose fault is it if Fabregas is creating chances at almost the same level as KDB and nobody is converting them?

At least these numbers should silence the dusty argument that Fab isnt creating chances.

Ibime:


We have not played 3-4-3 against any decent team this season, only relegation candidates that don't create chances.

No English you speak will absolve the incompetence of Donkeyoko and Fibreglass which we warned repeatedly about and have been vindicated.

Wisdom from the mouth of Lordfalcao.

Ogbeni i aint got time for dusty argument this morning

We've played 343 thirteen times in the league this season, won 9, drew 2

That's 11/13.

So i dont know what you're talking about.

Nihilist:



I have never said other players dont need to step up. What i said was that Morata needs to escape the sunken place.

And FYI, we do play a target man system. Im about to drive off now so i cant post it, but therss a couple of interviews out there where chelsea players talk about the striker being the reference point for play at all times, and how the whole team plays for the striker.

In conclusion, i agree with you that the likes of Hazard and Bakayoko need to step up to score....but Morata desperately needs to escape from his sunken oblivion.

Kevin DeBruyne has created the most chances in the league this season, and the most big chances.

Fabregas is second to only KDB in chance creation in the league this seasin and has created only 3 fewer Big chances than the Belgian- Morata needs exploit that creativity and use it to escape the sunken place.

these are my point and they have been agreed to.

Nevertheless every team play for striker, likewise city. It doesn't mean aguero or Jesus plays as a target man like lukaku does in most of the game for man u.

You claim fabregas have the second highest chances created but when we don't see them, we hold the attackers majorly at fault. Not only Morata, but hazard Pedro and Willian.

Nihilist:


Ogbeni i aint got time for dusty argument this morning

We've played 343 thirteen times in the league this season, won 9, drew 2

That's 11/13.

So i dont know what you're talking about.

Against who?

9 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses is 29 points.

Which puts you on course for an 85 point season.

Last season we made 93 points against all teams, big and small.

This record is 85 points if we only played against the smallest teams in the league.

This is a pitiful record.

Ibime:


Against who?

9 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses is 29 points.

Which puts you on course for an 85 point season.

Last season we made 93 points against all teams, big and small.

This record is 85 points if we only played against the smallest teams in the league.

This is a pitiful record.

Tell thst to morata who has been directly responsible for more dropped points than any other chelsea player this season.

Add hazard to the list too as he was a striker in a 343 for a couple of games and he didnt score.

HOW TO COOK DRAW SOUP!
Add 1 spoon of Conte
Dribble it with 2 cups of Hazard
Tackle the mixture with 4 packets of Kante
Add a slice of Cahill and a pinch of Zappacosta
And pour one sachet of Bakayoko to improve the draw aroma
Chill for 90 minutes before you miss it with a spoon of fine Morata
And then cover the pot with Courtois
Let it steam and watch it all draw out






Lol. People dey craze o

Greatihex:
HOW TO COOK DRAW SOUP!

Add 1 spoon of Conte

Dribble it with 2 cups of Hazard

Tackle the mixture with 4 packets of Kante

Add a slice of Cahill and a pinch of Zappacosta

And pour one sachet of Bakayoko to improve the draw aroma

Chill for 90 minutes before you miss it with a spoon of fine Morata

And then cover the pot with Courtois

Let it steam and watch it all draw out







Lol. People dey craze o

The case of Matic is like Cahill. A 6.5 or 7/10 player who is not everyones cup of tea but who does his job and understands the system. There are 3 or 4 players that could have comfortably replaced Matic (Cahill) last transfer window with no sweat. Unfortunately, desperation and lack of tactical knowledge led some people right from last season to start calling for Michael Hector (Fabregas) to replace him, then compounded in the summer by signing another Djilobolodji (Bakayoko) as a so-called upgrade. We would not be talking tactical conversation right now if Michael Hector and Djilobolodji could perform their basic function.

lordfalcao:
Chelsea play a 3 man front and not a target man. They should score As much as morata has scored or score more than that.

City have sterling with a hand in 18 goals, sane a hand in 15 goals, Jesus a hand in 10 goals. These players are other attackers man city have. Not to mention their midfields

Man u have martial a hand in 10 goals, lingard a hand in 11 goals, rashford a hand in 9 goals. Excluding lukaku mhiktaryan, and the rest these players are other attackers man u have. Not to mention the ones that came from midfield

Spurs have son with a hand in 12 goals, Alli and sterling with a hand in 12 goals each.

The same goes to Liverpool with salah, countinho and mane? What is the difference ? These teams are scoring more, their attacker scoring almost same with their strikers or more than their strikers. Compare this with your attackers and point out any of hazard, Pedro, Willian have had a hand in goals more than this players listed.

Conte have already pointed it out, the team should score more. If you don't see this but heap it on Morata because of your misunderstanding around his persona. Nothing can be done to remedy your views about him.

Will you please go to church so that some rubbish in your head can be removed?

Nihilist:


Tell thst to morata who has been directly responsible for more dropped points than any other chelsea player this season.

Add hazard to the list too as he was a striker in a 343 for a couple of games and he didnt score.

Costa went on leave of absence last season from January to season-end, only scoring 6 goals from January to May and we still finished on 93 points.

Saturday's scoreless draw with Leicester, who dominated the first half before being reduced to 10 men, shows nearly all of the Blues are struggling
Alvaro Morata has been repeatedly identified as Chelsea's biggest under-performer at the moment but Saturday's 0-0 draw at home to Leicester City showed that his present malaise has spread to many of his team-mates.
The Foxes peppered the Blues' goal in the first half with 12 shots in total, the most by any visiting side in the opening 45 minutes of a game at Stamford Bridge since 2003-04. Indeed, while Chelsea ended the game on the offensive, that was only due to the second-half dismissal of Ben Chilwell's senseless dismissal.
In truth, Chelsea were lucky to escape with a point. Their historice third consecutive 0-0 draw in all competitions was undeserved, and for all the wrong reasons.
A stalemate looks all the more disappointing, given Leicester have lost 12 of their last 14 games against Chelsea in all competitions, but had Chilwell not got himself sent off, it's likely that Claude Puel's adventurous approach would have been rewarded with a victory.
Morata and Eden Hazard started up front once again, which was unsurprising, with Antonio Conte seemingly having decided that 3-5-2 is the only way to go, after abandoning his preferred 3-4-3 following in light of his side's a bad run in October.
Chelsea's £55 million striker will take more criticism after a match in which the only thing he did of not was earn his sixth booking of the season – and rightly so. Morata has scored just three goals in all competitions since November 22.
However, he is not the only player performing poorly. Hazard still looks badly out of sorts, just as he did against Arsenal in midweek, and the Belgian was substituted for the third game in a row.
Hazard is under intense pressure to provide a creative spark for Chelsea, as the sole player who links Morata to his midfield, and he is also covering a huge amount of ground in the 3-5-2 formation, not least because so many of his team-mates are out of form and offering little.
In short, Hazard looks exhausted from carrying the Blues attack almost all on his own.
Cesc Fabregas is a genius creator but his spark and fluidity has ebbed away in recent months, and it was no surprise to see him come off at the same time as Hazard.
Conte decided against withdrawing Tiemoue Bakayoko but the midfielder still doesn't look remotely close to justifying the club's decision to sell Nemanja Matic and sign the ex-Monaco man for the same £40 million fee.
Pedro and Willian came on in place of Hazard and Cesc but they made little impact. Indeed, Pedro has been the player to have declined most since last season, when his crucial goals played a huge part in Chelsea's title win.
Willian, perhaps, deserves more game time after some good performances against lesser opposition but with the club's new, more cautious formation, his first-team chances have been limited.
Overall, the worrying thing was that with Puel having lined Leicester up in a bold 4-4-2 formation, they outplayed Chelsea for long stretches, as Jamie Vardy and Riyad Mahrez played with the confidence that you would expect of a Chelsea player.
The Blues were fortunate to claim what was their fourth stalemate in a row. They are now nine points off their total after 23 games from last season but, even more crucially, trail Premier League leaders Manchester City by a whopping 15 points, having played one game more than Pep Guardiola's side.
Conte's reign at Chelsea has been great so far and, amid talk of him potentially leaving at the end of the season, most fans want to see him stay for at least another year.
However, the negativity among the fans has hit its highest levels since the Italian's arrival as Chelsea boss, with their side no longer enjoyable to watch.
The Chelsea boss was raging on the touchline and he used up his substitutions after just 56 minutes, the earliest he has ever done so since taking charge.
Leicester deserved their point and the problems at Chelsea go well beyond just Morata's malaise. It extends to a whole group of underperforming champions.
As Conte said afterwards, "I don't think it is only Morata's problem, also the other players, because we are not scoring goals. We are not conceding, but we are not creating chances."
The remainder of Chelsea's season hinges upon Conte finding a solution.


http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/chelsea-can-no-longer-count-on-hazard-to-carry-them-as/1g7kp3j0bpwsw1b2fzey0hghlc

Ibime:


Costa went on leave of absence last season from January to season-end, only scoring 6 goals from January to May and we still finished on 93 points.

what were other attackers doing last season. Shebi they were waiting on Costa like nihilist is waiting on morata. Nihilist is telling us the teams problem is because of Morata

airmark:


Will you please go to church so that some rubbish in your head can be removed?

big things are hadder for you to understand . You have picked the smallest part which you can understand. Carry on

No Van Dijk for Liverpool today.

No Coutinho too.

Can they still do the whole league a favour and stop those muthafuckas in sky blue?

lordfalcao:
what were other attackers doing last season. Shebi they were waiting on Costa like nihilist is waiting on morata. Nihilist is telling us the teams problem is because of Morata

They took out Pedro and put an AM in the team (Donkeyoko) that only has 4 league goals and assists. An AM!

Only because that same AM was brought to play Matic role and failed, so now Pedro has to be sacrificed as none of them can play 2 man midfield.

airmark:


Will you please go to church so that some rubbish in your head can be removed?

Lol....3man front indeed

lordfalcao:
Chelsea play a 3 man front and not a target man. They should score As much as morata has scored or score more than that.

City have sterling with a hand in 18 goals, sane a hand in 15 goals, Jesus a hand in 10 goals. These players are other attackers man city have. Not to mention their midfields

Man u have martial a hand in 10 goals, lingard a hand in 11 goals, rashford a hand in 9 goals. Excluding lukaku mhiktaryan, and the rest these players are other attackers man u have. Not to mention the ones that came from midfield

Spurs have son with a hand in 12 goals, Alli and sterling with a hand in 12 goals each.

The same goes to Liverpool with salah, countinho and mane? What is the difference ? These teams are scoring more, their attacker scoring almost same with their strikers or more than their strikers. Compare this with your attackers and point out any of hazard, Pedro, Willian have had a hand in goals more than this players listed.

Conte have already pointed it out, the team should score more. If you don't see this but heap it on Morata because of your misunderstanding around his persona. Nothing can be done to remedy your views about him.

oga, you are beginning to sound ridiculous with this your defence of morata.

Even me wey be em big fan no go type some of the ridiculous things you have been posting here.

patrickmuf:
Do you classify Moses as an attacking player?

is moses a defensive minded player?

diggz:



Lol....3man front indeed

I forgot to even tag you. Are you sure this lordfalcao is not a mad man?

Though bakanonsense has been part of our problem, but look at the technical description of the roles of our two men upfront below, and every sensible person will understand where nihilist was coming from.

If morata continues to fall and miss big chances in this 3-5-2, the team is doomed. Unless conte switches formation.

Nihilist:
No Van Dijk for Liverpool today.

No Coutinho too.

Can they still do the whole league a favour and stop those muthafuckas in sky blue?

Wetin do Van Dijk

The fact is that both Ibime and nihilist are correct with their argument, but the whole thing boils down to our players, especially attackers not being in form.


This is my opinion.

elrony:


Wetin do Van Dijk

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