nateevs: "Torres will not succeed at Chelsea" "He lacks the ability to play in tight spaces".

Hmmm! If I remember correctly, I think Torres was a success at Liverpool. . . Ah! That's because tight spaces were not invented then.
Of course!



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nateevs: What are saying now is clearly different from what you said a few minutes ago. That Torres scored a chunk of his goals when set free on goal does not equal "inability to play in tight spaces" . . . and to stretch that even further by saying that he "will not" succeed at Chelsea because of it is preposterous at the very least.


What Coogar and I believe is that Torres is a striker who thrives on quick, incisive build-up play because he has good ability of timing those runs that set him free on goal. This does mean he cannot play or score in tight spaces. It just means that even in seemingly tight spaces, some players see passes other don't and Torres who knows how to create that space in the "tight space" relies on midfielders who can spot that run and make that pass. Chelsea has never had one these player up until Mata.

Right now, we are building a squad of this calibre of players. I believe it will seem rather wise to see how Torres works in the "new team" before trying to be the guy who predicted the falling heavens.

nateevs:
What Coogar and I believe is that Torres is a striker who thrives on quick, incisive build-up play because he has good ability of timing those runs that set him free on goal. This does mean he cannot play or score in tight spaces. It just means that even in seemingly tight spaces, some players see passes other don't and Torres who knows how to create that space in the "tight space" relies on midfielders who can spot that run and make that pass. Chelsea has never had one these player up until Mata.

FBS: Pre-season coming up in 2 weeks! Its about time walahi.

Ibime:

Blaming midfielders again are we? Torres has more excuses than a hypochondriac.

How many of Matas passes did Torres score last season.

So the kinda passes that Lamps used to set the likes of Ramires and DD free in the UCL and FA Cup latter stages are not good enough for Torres?

Its always someone else's fault with Torres.

Ibime:

Blaming midfielders again are we? Torres has more excuses than a hypochondriac.

How many of Matas passes did Torres score last season.

So the kinda passes that Lamps used to set the likes of Ramires and DD free in the UCL and FA Cup latter stages are not good enough for Torres?

Its always someone else's fault with Torres.

I didn't know how I miss this.
How many in total are these passes to Ramires, Drogba et al.
It's very easy to keep saying why didn't he score all the passes. . how many of those passes did others score?

I will blame the mid-fielders until our style of play changes.
Minus Drogba, which striker has ever blossomed at Chelsea in the last 10 years?


After JFH and TAF, we bought Crespo, Kezman, Mutu, Sheva, Pizzarro, Di Santo, Lukaku, Sturridge and now Torres. Not one single one of these strikers ever had a season to remember at Chelsea. Is this Torres' fault as well?

While some of us analyse what goes on season by season, some others look at systemic problem over time. We developed a system, with players that only Drogba can thrive in. Only Anelka also had "one" successful season as a striker and that was in the season we dared to change the system.


My point is Torres is a top class striker that Chelsea can get a lot from. However, just like previous strikers at Chelsea, we need to develop a system that brings out the best in them.

nateevs:


I didn't know how I miss this.
How many in total are these passes to Ramires, Drogba et al.
It's very easy to keep saying why didn't he score all the passes. . how many of those passes did others score?

I will blame the mid-fielders until our style of play changes.
Minus Drogba, which striker has ever blossomed at Chelsea in the last 10 years?


After JFH and TAF, we bought Crespo, Kezman, Mutu, Sheva, Pizzarro, Di Santo, Lukaku, Sturridge and now Torres. Not one single one of these strikers ever had a season to remember at Chelsea. Is this Torres' fault as well?

While some of us analyse what goes on season by season, some others look at systemic problem over time. We developed a system, with players that only Drogba can thrive in. Only Anelka also had "one" successful season as a striker and that was in the season we dared to change the system.


My point is Torres is a top class striker that Chelsea can get a lot from. However, just like previous strikers at Chelsea, we need to develop a system that brings out the best in them.

nateevs:
After JFH and TAF, we bought Crespo, Kezman, Mutu, Sheva, Pizzarro, Di Santo, Lukaku, Sturridge and now Torres. Not one single one of these strikers ever had a season to remember at Chelsea. Is this Torres' fault as well?

I've just told ma mate on the phone that even if Torres scores 30 goals next season, Chelsea wont win anything cos I know which kind of games he would score in. It wont be title-deciding games like Everton, City, Newcastle or those tactical UCL games etc where space is tight. His own would be only to chop awoof against the Villas and Wigans who would give him enough space to play his "switchback", only for Chelsea to drop points in those tight games where trophies are won and lost and where a strikers tactical contribution is vital.

Torres had ZERO contribution to Spain's title. . . .the coach Del Bosque knows it and thats why he refused to play him in any tight decisive game, and his one attempt to do so against Croatia produced a cuarenta y cinco minutos horribilis that precipitated Torres' withdrawal after half-time.

Chidi,

Market don open for Emirates oo. Van Persie wan go now

nateevs:

Hey Russia man! Are you watching the PS games?

nateevs:
So we must conclude now that Torres, may score 20 goals next season, it still will be far from a successful season.

nateevs:
Torres as a Liverpool striker scored against Chelsea, ManU, City, Newcastle, Arsenal, Everton, Tottenham, Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Benfica.

nateevs:
I see. Did Del Bosque also know to not play Llorente - 30 goals last season - as well?


You cannot pass judgement on Torres on the back of Del Bosque's tactical decisions. If in the eye of Del Bosque, Torres was that rubbish, he should have played Llorente. One time when it favours your argument you tell us Del Bosque knew not to rely on Torres, yet every other time he (Del Bosque) chose to bring on a striker after not starting one, he brought on the rubbish one. How do you justify that?

Ibime:
Case in point: Torres did not contribute anything to Spain's Euro title win. Or is it against Ireland or 20 minutes to go against a 2-0 down and 10-men Italy that the title was won?

Torres had ZERO contribution to Spain's title. . . .the coach Del Bosque knows it and thats why he refused to play him in any tight decisive game, and his one attempt to do so against Croatia produced a cuarenta y cinco minutos horribilis that precipitated Torres' withdrawal after half-time.

coogar:

this is the most idiotic comment in the history of nairaland.
so torres contributed zero to spain's title but he won the golden
boot? i am sure if they open your brain, they would find fluff inside it.

FBS:
My guy nateevs, yes so. That's when the season starts for me. lol.

Will you be watching?

1025: my best name after mikel is hazard. if chelsea become hazardous in ur 18 yard box, na only fire service go save u.

190: I've fallen for d dude marko marin already

Love his name - he's d dude I wanna watch already

I like de bryune too - aint a hugh fan of hazard

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