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Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 06, 2012 |
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Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by anonymous6(f): 4:46am On Jul 07, 2012 |
interesting article but I don't believe Yoruba came from Benin(or Edo) but I do without a doubt that they come from the same paternal lineage, who was Yoruba(Oduduwa) |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 10:36am On Jul 07, 2012 |
anonymous6: interesting article but I don't believe Yoruba came from Benin(or Edo) but I do without a doubt that they come from the same paternal lineage, who was Yoruba(Oduduwa) I don't know who came from who, but they both have the same royal lineage... Which is similar to the Oba of Benin/Olu of Warri Itsekiri)... The Itsekiris aren't from Benin, yet they have Benin royal lineage.. I just want those who know more about history to answer some of the questions raised in the article. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by bright007(f): 4:38pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
@poster:Inasmuch as u tried to be unbiased from d beginning,ur myopic reasoning didn't allow have å safe landing on the issue. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
bright007: @poster:Inasmuch as u tried to be unbiased from d beginning,ur myopic reasoning didn't allow have å safe landing on the issue. I didn't write the article, I copied it from a website - and the website was referenced below the article... Can you point out the bias in the article because the writer gave a lot of credit to the Oba of Benin's side of the story? |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by bokohalal(m): 5:17pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
anonymous6: interesting article but I don't believe [/b]Yoruba came from Benin(or Edo) but I do without a [b]doubt [/b]that they come from the same paternal lineage, who was [b]Yoruba(Oduduwa)What are you still waiting for? Just tell us how or show where we can find same conviction and be in no doubt ,too. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by anonymous6(f): 6:31pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
bokohalal: oh oh somebody is mad, lol well it has been said not only by Yoruba's but Edo's that both groups have the same paternal lineage that is why we are connected |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by bokohalal(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
anonymous6:Nobody is mad. Your last post said they have same paternal lineage.Earlier,however,you were convinced that the Pater was Yoruba. That is the point I want you to educate me about. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by anonymous6(f): 7:09pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
bokohalal: Nope my posts are the same from my recent to earlier post, I believe that both groups have the same paternal lineage and that paternal lineage is oduduwa which is yoruba but that doesn't mean Edo are yoruba; they are still different groups in the end of the day. It is the samething with the Jews/Hebrew and Arabs, they both have the same paternal lineage which is Abraham(Hebrew), but in the end of the day they both different groups, you get it now. anonymous6: anonymous6: interesting article but[b] I don't believe Yoruba came from Benin(or Edo) but I do know without a doubt that they come from the same paternal lineage, who [/b]was Yoruba(Oduduwa) |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 7:16pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
You guys need to separate the people from the royal bloodline.. We're different people. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by anonymous6(f): 7:18pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
shymmex: You guys need to separate the people from the royal bloodline.. It is true we are different but there is a common ancestral link between Edo and Yoruba |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
anonymous6: Yeah, the royal bloodline (not the people) of the Yoruba subgroups and Edo are the same except the Ijebu people.. Ours is from Obanta |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by bokohalal(m): 3:29am On Jul 10, 2012 |
anonymous6:No,I do not get it.You are even more unconvincing. Homework time.Go find out where the mythical Abraham came from and apply it to your faulty analogy.Get it? |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by ronkebp(f): 3:56pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
shymmex: Shymmex so you are Ijebu??.....Ewwwww!!!! the meanest yorubas' ever!!!! |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by anonymous6(f): 5:26pm On Jul 10, 2012 |
bokohalal: At this point you and me have to agree to disagree, my post was not meant for a argument or a debate but what I believe, end of story. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Toppie2(f): 2:47pm On Jul 11, 2012 |
Back then, my sunday school teacher told us cain married an angel! |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Ptolomeus(m): 5:08pm On Jul 11, 2012 |
@Shymmex I think, very wisely, we explained that is not the same royal lineage, as the people. As I have explained to me that throughout history, there have been changes (sometimes products wars) in the line of royalty, who do not have to maintain the original lineage or be the same as that of the people. Dear Shymmex, your article is very interesting. Thank you very much for sharing! My best regards to all. @Toppie2 I understand that at that time, the important thing was to destroy the culture and traditions. Cain's marriage with an angel is a simple story, but not much different from other stories that were used to impose a transplanted culture and destroy the identity of each African people. My warm greetings to you! |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 4:16am On Jul 13, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: @Shymmex Thanks brother. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by DuduNegro: 6:59pm On Jul 14, 2012 |
On the issue of women in Old testatement and Cain's marriage, the scripture customarily was patrilineal and so always listed and accounted for the men. This does not mean there were no women, the Bible was silent on the women that Adam and Eve had. Also, it was not forbidden and neither was it sinful for a brother to lay with his sister for reproduction in the time of Cain and Abel. The prohibition came much later on after Moses. The only thing forbidden in their time was that a man shall not lay with a beast or with another man. Therefore towns and cities were destroyed where these forbidden acts were practiced. Cain's children came out of his partnership with his sister - a permissible act in that age and period of mankind. I don't want to talk or contribute anything to this Oduduwa and Yoruba/Edo thing again because it has been over discussed. The discussions of previous threads are still available for anyone interested in getting info, no need for monthly discussions on it with new postings. The royal lineage of Ife, the cradle of Yoruba came from Afro Asia. The royal blood line of Benin/Edo people came from the royal blood line of Ife. The royal blood line of Itsekiri came from the royal blood line of Benin. The royal blood line of Lagos came from the royal blood line of Benin. The Itsekiri people, the Lagos people are Yorubas. The Edo people are not Yorubas. The Anago people are the original indigenes of SouthWest Nigeria (today called Yorubaland) and their tongue is indigenous to the land. The Yoruba people are migrants out of Afro Asia and so is their tongue (ancient Hebrew). The Yoruba tongue is not indigenous. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Ptolomeus(m): 6:41pm On Jul 16, 2012 |
Dudu_Negro: The Yoruba tongue is not indigenous.Interestingly your assertion. Could you dig in more about that statement? From already thank you very much. Warm regards, dear friend! |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 11:30am On Aug 07, 2021 |
The true history of the yoruba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: 1) ife empire 2) bight of ife 3) bight of yoruba 4) ife battle against britain 5) ife republic |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 11:33am On Aug 07, 2021 |
Nothing about ife is real, ife was a small village until 1912 when the British started urbanizing it. All these fairytales about ife are just that, fairytales made by politicians who knew the people of the region were dumb enough to believe. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by RedboneSmith(m): 4:49pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies: I only needed 1 minute, 43 seconds of the first video to know that everything in it and in the next video is crap. |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 4:59pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
RedboneSmith:watch it again and in full, both videos, then you will be enlightened. Truthbeatslies: |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by TAO11(f): 5:38pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
DEBUNKED! Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: (1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends. (3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. Peace! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 5:39pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies: |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by TAO11(f): 5:43pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. Stop tripping. Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: (1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends. (3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. Peace! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by Nobody: 5:45pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies: |
Re: Yoruba And Benin Kingdom: Ile Ife The Final Resting Place Of History by TAO11(f): 5:48pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: (1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends. (3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. Peace! |
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