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Culture / Re: Are You Nigerian.. Are You African? by anonymous6(f): 3:28pm On Oct 04, 2015
Culture / Re: BBC Lists Out The Most Common ‘unruly’ Behaviours Displayed By Nigerians by anonymous6(f): 3:24pm On Oct 04, 2015
fibial:
According to a BBC article published today, Nigerians are one of the most unruly sets of
human beings around.
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As the article goes, here are the most common bad behaviour exhibited by Nigerians:
The Nigerians who will never stand in any queue, who must make their way to the front as
soon as they arrive

The drivers who will never stop at a traffic light, who consider it anathema to allow an
empty space in front of their vehicles

The invisible individuals who excrete piles of solid waste on the pavements, night after
night

The staff who take three weeks’ leave to attend their father’s burial, then another three
weeks later in the year to attend their father’s burial, again. “That first one was my father
who paid my school fees,” they say. “This one is my biological father”

Nigerians are notorious for illegal electricity connection. Can this happen in London?
The mothers who threaten the head teacher with fire and brimstone because their children
were punished for coming late to school

The bosses who, in the presence of their entire staff, praise you for your excellent work
skills, then wink and ask if you also have excellent “bedroom skills”, while everyone
present bursts out laughing

The top government officials who show off their importance by the number of people jam-
packed into their waiting rooms. They give you an appointment for 7am, knowing full well
that they do not intend to see you until 10pm

The air hostesses who frown throughout the flight, to avoid giving you the false
impression that they are at your beck and call

The “big men” and “big women” who scream “Do you know who I am?” when you ask for
some identity before they can be allowed through the gate

Those who ring the airline to request that the flight be delayed for their sakes, while their
fellow passengers gaze out of the aeroplane windows for an hour, wondering why the
flight is delayed, this time


please can you send the source lol. I have to admit this article is spot on and I have witnessed some of these behaviours with some Nigerians as well and its irritating, to me one reason this happens is because to be honest with some Nigerians these backward behaviours are the norm in nigeria and it is tolerated smh
Culture / Re: Nigeria's Dangerous Skin Whitening Obsession As Reported By Aljazeera (Pictures) by anonymous6(f): 3:16pm On Oct 04, 2015
I heard about this from Aljazerra and I think BBC a few years ago about bleaching in Nigeria, other African countries, countries in Asia(ex. India) and south america(ex. Brazil). I think the reality is that skin bleaching is the negative effects of colonialism in Africa sadly and it will take awhile before Africa comes to terms with it and address it then finally reject it. The funny part of all about this is that most of the famous Nigerians in the media and entertainment industry are dark skinned and dark brown black Nigerians who are good looking so it's funny at times that these women bleaching don't appreciate what they have but as I said before colonailism left a nasty affect in Africa and until that affect is wiped out skin bleaching will continue. I think those pictures of black african women who have skin damage as a result of bleaching is a good way to address it to black african women and some men that if they continue they will look a mess in the future. America did that with their anti-smoking agenda, they kept showing adds and commercials against smoking: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=anti+smoking+commercials
and guess what the commercials worked cause smoking reduced in America over the decades, maybe Nigerian/Black Africans need to start doing that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usR-uTFc30g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mfFbA2r2g
Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 7:38pm On Sep 27, 2015
tonychristopher:


Tell that to that girl blackcoffee or something ..she must be too black That might be reason Igbo men take off

You know Igbo are from chocolate to fair


I have seen some dark chocolate igbo people lol

Majority of Nigeria is mostly of dark chocolate & chocolate skin tone followed by light skinned black people

dark chocolate is beautiful

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Survey: Nigerians Most Educated In The U.S. - BET by anonymous6(f): 5:58pm On Sep 27, 2015
Angelou:
are Somalis not among them... What about other kushites residing in Minnesota.
Somali99 i think this assertions are in accurate..
Anyway i'm just being sarcastic, we all know that the only thing somalis and djibouti are good at doing is flaunting their swollen forehead and buck teeth cheesy cheesy grin

lol
Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 5:34pm On Sep 27, 2015
bigfrancis21:


@bold...it is the same way Igbo parents prefer their kids marrying from within their region. I guess it all balances out at the end of the day. No tribe should be singled out as being 'tribal bigots'.

Yea basically Majority of yoruba's, majority of igbo's and majority of Hausa's prefer their children to marry within their own tribe and for the most part majority of Nigerians marry with in their Tribe any way and I see nothing wrong with that or see it as being a tribal bigot, to me it's more of cultural pride. All cultures and races are like that in the world today, the indians, arabs and etc are all like that. I have no problem with intertribal though. However the only time intertribal becomes a problem is when people within their respective culture, race, group and etc attack other groups or their own for justification for marrying out(not extreme with Nigerians though).

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Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 4:01pm On Sep 27, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Thanks for your objective statements. Yea, Igbos do face religious attacks and crisis in the North but many are still willing enough to go to the North in search of business opportunities. Yorubas are almost absent in the east in almost all spheres of life - trade, education, NYSC etc.

In trade there are very few Yoruba traders trading in the east. The few ones willing to travel to the east have made the east their home, and are excelling in their trade. Competition is very stiff in the east and many Igbos find themselves migrating out to other zones where competition is much less than it is back home.

Asides trade, let us consider education. How many Yoruba would you find studying in the east? You can count the number of Yorubas who are studying in the east. It is not a matter of not enough schools in the east. There are tons of schools in the east - universities, colleges of education and polytechnics. A cursory look at the admission list of schools in the east reveals mostly easterners and Niger Deltans and very few Yorubas.

During my 3rd year in the University, there was this Yoruba guy who lived in the same hostel as me. That was his final year as he was graduating. One evening we met ourselves at a popular indomie eating joint close to the area called 'beach' in Nsukka. As we were eating we got talking. I asked him about his decision to come to the east and how it happened. He revealed to me that when he put UNN as first choice because he wanted to come to UNN to study, his parents yelled at him for deciding to go to the east because 'they eat human flesh there and they will kill you and eat you when you get there.' They warned him to change his option to a university in the SW. He refused and took his JAMB exam. Luckily for him, he got admission into UNN and moved to Nsukka to start his education. According to him, he had deep-seated beliefs too about the Igbos before he left the SW and that living in the east had taught him that the Igbos were human beings after all. He said lots of Yorubas, like his parents, carry a lot of false impressions about the Igbos and that he was grateful he came to the east which taught him a lot about the Igbos. He also mentioned that he loved the city of Enugu a lot for its serenity and beauty and wondered why it wasn't as populated as Lagos, which he described as rowdy and noisy.

When it comes to NYSC, lots of Yoruba corpers posted to the east redeploy back to the west after camping. I have met more Yoruba corpers who redeployed back to the west than those who remained in the east to complete their service. A Yoruba corper posted to Port-Harcourt revealed her own story when she received her posting letter that she had been posted to PH (which she considered as 'east' or Igboland anyway), her parents were very critical of her going to the east for service and planned for her that they would have her redeploy back to the west after camping because the east was too dangerous for her to live there. After 3 weeks in camp, this corper called her parents and insisted that she was going to complete her service in PH and that she liked the place. Her parents tried to discourage her but she insisted.

The only area you can find Yorubas in significant numbers in the east is in civil service, which was not out of their volition but because they were posted to the east.

The crux of the matter is Yorubas bear a lot of false deep-seated impressions about the Igbos or Igboland in general that they are hardly ever willing to consider living there. To think of the fact that there are other ethnic groups such as the Hausas, Ibibios, Binis/Esan etc. living in Igboland while there are hardly any Yorubas reveals the thought processes of the Yorubas regarding Igbos in general.


I never did corp or education in Nigeria, so I will answer based on what my relatives of have told me & my travels to Nigeria; When it comes to education & Corp, I Think the reason is because Yoruba parents are comfortable and prefer their children getting their education & corp in their region which is SW then traveling all the way to the East. However when it comes to corp, there are some points you mentioned that I would like to add as well, it is not only the east but other regions like far deep in the north that yoruba parents don't want their children going to but for the most part it is because of safety for example the religious fiasco of the north, so you will understand some Yoruba parents fear of letting their children go to some where far away that is not completely safe. However igbo parents have misconceptions of yoruba territory as well, so I don't think it is one sided.

I will add that tribes in Nigeria need to ease up on their misconceptions of one another in order for Nigeria to move forward smoothly

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Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 2:47pm On Sep 27, 2015
TerraCotta:


This poster often makes these types of inane comments. He is not alone in being incurably addicted to ethnic stereotyping so there's not much point in engaging with him (although I'm grateful to others like Radoillo and Scholes who do God's work by replying!) I do have to correct some simplistic comments that I often see repeated by ignorant posters on Nairaland. Anyone who feels offended because they fit the bill of 'ignorance' may wish to look up the meaning of the word.

Yoruba entrepreneurs have lived and continue to live all over Nigeria and West Africa, in numbers rivaling if not outnumbering any other migrant groups. I'm not interested in score-settling with shallow-minded tribal chestbeaters but the facts are the facts and we have both anecdotal and empirical evidence to support this view. You will find Yoruba traders in every rural corner of northern and central Nigeria, and in a chain of communities stretching throughout West Africa up to the Ivory Coast. Entrepreneurial travel is a foundational aspect of Yoruba culture, as I've written here before. It's enshrined in the traditional religion through "Aje shaluga" and Olokun, and is well-presented in hundreds of proverbs, and in ancient and contemporary patterns of commerce. The market is still the locus of society in most rural settings, and cities built along traditional plans like Ibadan still demonstrate the central role of the market in Yoruba life. A brilliant, under-appreciated book on this theme was published in the early 1980s and is called "The Entrepreneur As Culture-Hero"--the author is Professor Bernard Belasco, formerly of the City University of New York. More recent books by Toyin Falola and Jane Guyer go further into Yoruba economic history and anthropology from the 19th century to the present.

Even further back in time, the economic development of Ile-Ife was most likely due to its trade in the luxury goods of the day (9th-14th century West Africa), which included the beaded jewelry, ivory and bronze/brass/copper-alloy artwork produced there: http://www.icom-cc.org/54/document/wg-glass-and-ceramics-interim-meeting-corning-2010--preprint-ige/?action=Site_Downloads_Downloadfile&id=1278
The city was wealthy enough to attract the attention of Muslim scholars like Ibn-Battuta, who is believed to have written about 14th-century Ife under the name "Yufi"--similar to the indigenous Ife-Ijesa and Okun-Ondo dialect version of the town name, "Ufe". There is some controversy about this record but it appears to be correct in calling Ife "one of the largest towns of the negroes, whose ruler is one of the most considerable of the negro rulers." As suggested by this record, Yoruba cultures have long placed an importance on living in primarily urban arrangements; they are considered one (if not the most) urbanized societies in Africa prior to colonization. Urbanization requires societies open to immigration, entrepreneurship, religious, linguistic and cultural mixing. To my mind, this tradition is strongly upheld in Yoruba culture and partially explain both the size and economic vitality of many Yoruba cities like Lagos and Ibadan.

Coming back to the revolting bigotry that pushes someone to say a group of 35 million people aren't "independent-minded and enterprising enough to travel outside their region to survive". The mindset that generates this type of simple-minded comment can't be cured by posting on the Internet, unfortunately. Thankfully, it can be partially relieved through reading and travel, so more facts:

Yoruba Traders in Cote D'Ivoire: http://www.ajol.info/index.php/afrrev/article/view/43614 (This was, until recently, the country with the highest per-capita GDP and living standards in West Africa)

The Yoruba Migrant Entrepreneur Experience in Ghana: http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/events/amw-2008/papers/olaniyi.pdf and https://books.google.com.hk/books?id=IjlzSYnAKdQC&pg=PA217&lpg=PA217&dq=yoruba+ivory+ghana&source=bl&ots=fu3niM8Tif&sig=pkXGVgPr9-1yvmJHRPbG-i08KTE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCWoVChMIn-6-6qSWyAIVJCymCh0iAg64#v=onepage&q=yoruba%20ivory%20ghana&f=false

The Yoruba ethnonym "Anago" or "Nagot" is synonymous with "Nigerian" in both the Ivory Coast and Ghana, which suggests the significance of the Yoruba migrant population in both countries.



This is senseless, given the documented travel patterns above. If there were economic opportunities and societal openness rivaling Cote D'Ivoire and Ghana in the East, you would expect to see more migration there. Unlike some of the silly inferences I read on Nairaland, migrant labor does not move to new areas out of an altruistic need to "develop" a community. Migrant traders like the Yoruba in these countries, or in London, Dubai and so forth, go to these places because there are more economic opportunities than they would have at home. They are leaving to "strike it rich", not to perform philanthropy. It is a clear comment on the perceived inferior quality of Nigerian schools that students would rather attend university in Ghana and Malaysia (and of course the U.S. and U.K.) It may wound Nigerian pride to hear it, but that won't make it less true. Likewise, if Yoruba traders go to every other region and nation on Earth but avoid specific ones in large numbers, there is likely to be a straightforward explanation that doesn't require the tortured logic of the quoted statement.



Your claims are demonstrably false as shown above, since there are literally millions of Yoruba people living outside their region for three or more generations, at this point. They live in a wide variety of other communities inside and outside Nigeria. The more probable truth is that you and others who think and talk like you represent a strain of thought and lack of openness in your region that most Yoruba people would find unacceptable. Coming from cosmopolitan backgrounds where they are used to celebrating a variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds, they are unlikely to be attracted to that rudimentary approach to life and a general lack of courtesy and decorum. If there were some overriding economic reasons to live in the East, there would undoubtedly be many hardy migrants who are indifferent to these issues. For instance, there are Yoruba traders established in Hong Kong and Dubai, which are certainly more economically competitive and less culturally-familiar to them than Eastern Nigeria. The appeal is the economic opportunity that the first two choices offer and that the last appears to lack. Whether or not this lack of opportunity is true has little to do with my point that BigFrancis typifies a lack of cultural courtesy and decorum that many (if not most) Yoruba would find repellant.

Bigotry comes easily to the shallow-minded and inexperienced and it's tempting (but difficult) to ignore it if you have a nuanced and open-minded view of the world. Nairaland taught me a log time ago that engaging with dyed-in-the-wool bigots is a waste of time--they either grow out of their ignorance through their own efforts or inevitably face shame and correction from a source they admire and trust more than an anonymous internet poster. It is important to correct nonsense like the first quoted statement because impressionable readers who don't have a wider appetite for information might buy it.

Excellent response
Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 2:41pm On Sep 27, 2015
bigfrancis21:


I have a witness in the person of a half-yoruba half-igbo nairalander on this forum who personally narrated her ordeal in the hands of a Yoruba man she was dating.

Me to as well, I forgot her name but I think she made a thread about it

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Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 2:38pm On Sep 27, 2015
bigfrancis21:


The only tribe who will have issues with living in the east is the Yoruba because they are hardly independent minded and enterprising enough to travel outside their region to survive. Also, many are discouraged by the tough competition that must be going on in the east, given the tough competition the Igbos are giving in Lagos and other SW states already. Then also, some Yorubas also carry so many false impressions about the Igbos or Igboland in general and hardly ever travel out to visit other areas, especially Igboland. Igboland is some mysterious Island, some unthinkable place where aliens live and land is scarce. cheesy Many Yoruba corpers who are posted to the east redeploy back to the west after camping, even when nobody is pursuing them. They redeploy just because they want to go back to their zone, where they feel comfortable in. On the other hand, Hausas, Ibibios etc have no issue at all migrating to the east to live. In the East, you'll find thousands, if not millions, of Hausas living and doing their businesses peacefully. Many of them have been allocated lands which they established their own community and some of them speak fluent Igbo.

The crux of the matter is that the average yoruba man feels insecure when he is outside of his own region. He doesn't feel comfortable when he is not in the midst of his own people. The ones that travel to the north happen to be muslims and fitting in in the north is not an issue for them. It is not an issue of not feeling comfortable in the east. Lots of non-Igbos are residing peacefully in the east.

interesting there are some truths to what you said but not all is correct, First of all the biggest reason Many Yoruba's don't venture out as you mentioned is because most Yoruba's tend to just feel comfortable in their own territory and don't really care as much to venture out at times not because they have fear of other tribes. However some do venture out and are fine, plus they are not having stiff competition in record numbers in their territory as you are saying. Their are some igbos doing business in Lagos but not big enough that it is beating the yoruba majority to scare them, also most other parts of yoruba land which OGUN, ODUN, OYO, OSUN, EKETI and etc, I never heard of anything of igbo's having stiff compettition against yoruba's in their own territory. The story I have heard is yoruba's having competition amongst themselves in their own territory when it comes to business and not against igbo's.

Also I would like to mention, that yes there are Hausa doing business in the East but it is not easy for Igbo's to do business in the North because there are some bigotry against igbo's from Hausa cause of their religion. I heard of a story of a igbo man that had to leave the north with his family and take his business cause the muslim hausa's physically asaulted him and didn't want him there, and his story is not the only case there have been many stories similar to that mans story, so lets be real
Culture / Re: Igbo Men And Inter- Tribal Marriage by anonymous6(f): 2:22pm On Sep 27, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Love knows no colour and boundary and, often times, cases of inter-tribal love like this pop up, however the majority of love cases of the Igbo people still fall within the same ethnic group. Igbo people are encouraged to find love within their own - there are over 35 million of them. Finding love amongst that number should be easy.

I did not intend to feel superior in my post but was only giving you an inside view as seen from the lens of Igbo men and people in general. I must also add that feeling superior is only a thing of the mind. If you feel you are superior, so be it. Just once you don't lord it over other people. If feeling superior drives you to succeed, that's good.

Also, Yoruba men and Hausa men marry mostly from within their kind. I don't see why that of the Igbo should be any different

If I may ask, were you recently in love with an Igbo? What happened?

bigfrancis21:


Are you aware that Hausa men barely marry from outside the Hausa tribe? Does that make them bigots?

Are you aware that Yoruba men mostly marry Yorubas and even the few that have married Igbos, still went on to take on Yoruba spouses? Aren't they 'tribal bigots' by doing so?

Are you aware that white men marry mostly within their race? Does that make them racist?

Why should that of the Igbos be different? Why should Igbos be labelled 'tribal bigots' for choosing to marry their own? Why has happened to freedom to marry who one wants?



As a yoruba woman, you have one of the best statements on this thread

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Culture / Re: Whites With Black DNA by anonymous6(f): 2:21am On Sep 24, 2015
bigfrancis21:
Many people who consider themselves “white” would be surprised to discover they have African ancestry — especially those in the South.
In an ironic twist, a new study has found that some of the states with the most racial tension are also the ones where the most white people have black ancestors. The findings published this month in the American Journal of Human Genetics found that whites in the South were far more likely to have black ancestry than any other part of the country.
Researchers examined 145,000 DNA samples provided to genetic testing company 23andme for ancestry analysis. They have now determined that at least six million Americans who called themselves white had at least 1 percent African ancestry.

South Carolina and Louisiana ranked highest on the list. Researchers found that one in 20 people who called themselves white in those states had at least 2 percent African ancestry. And in a lot of the South, about 10 percent of people who identified as white turned out to have African DNA as well.
What’s also worth noting is the genders of the specific people responsible for some Americans’ mixed ancestry. A whopping 19 percent of the ancestors of self-identified black people — were European male, while only 5 percent were European females. This racial mixing generally occurred in the early 1800s, when slavery was legal, further validating what historians know about white slave owners raping enslaved women who descended from Africa.
Just like white people in the South had the most African ancestry, so did black people living in the south; with those in Georgia and South Carolina topping the list. Conversely, black Americans with the lowest percentage of African ancestry were those in West Virginia and Oregon.

not surprised, heavy mixing happened in America history between whites and black and whites and native americans
Foreign Affairs / Re: Survey: Nigerians Most Educated In The U.S. - BET by anonymous6(f): 2:20pm On Sep 21, 2015
icedbeatz:
naija peeps just have to especially after seeing the craps that happens in naija, schooling and excelling in an environment that is not conducive and the unequipped schools in naija it automatically prepares a true naija citizen to do well in US where the are exposed to good professors, state of the art labs, dedicated teachers and conducive environment. Why won't you do well when you know where you are coming from and the fked up things that you have seen or experienced back in naija hmm? Hahahahahahahahaha anywhere you go for this world and no see naija person there bros begin run because we're everywhere hustling......if only the polithiefcians would just give the citizens 30 percent opportunity to shine eeeh hmm we go lead the pace #ILOVE9JA



sad but true, also the schools that are good in Nigeria are competitive to get into, especially in Nigerian states where they are just behind

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Culture / Re: Why A Muslim Can Never Be President In USA (in Support Of Ben Carson) by anonymous6(f): 2:11pm On Sep 21, 2015
NOBODYY:
Something to consider. This is why we are in big trouble. Can Muslims be Good Americans?
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Qur’an.
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer 5 times a day.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Qur’an 4:34). Can you see a court case brewing here?
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam. (Qur’an, 2:256)
Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur’an do not allow freedom of religion and expression.
Spiritually, no, because when we declare “one nation under God,” the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called Love in the Qur’an’s 99 excellent names. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic. Therefore after much study and deliberation perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish…it’s still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country. Pass it on. The war is bigger than we know.

To be "All-American”… One must support the Constitution and the principles of our Founding Fathers. There is no room for Sharia Law or supporters of that backwards Islamic system of laws

In general America and most of the middle east doesn't get along and when you add muslim fanatics like ISIS and the Osama Bin Ladin of 2001 it won't happen
Politics / Highly Educated Africans Find Themselves Trapped In Cycle Of Poverty In America by anonymous6(f): 2:02pm On Sep 21, 2015
America has long been scrutinized for its policies and legislation surrounding immigration, and it seems like African immigrants from sub-Saharan countries are carrying some of the heaviest burdens.

When making the journey across the Atlantic, many African immigrants have no idea that they are leaving behind more than just a familiar land.

Those who have reputations as successful doctors and engineers, those who have worked tirelessly to earn some of the highest accolades universities have to offer and those who have spent years climbing their respective career ladders are often leaving those accomplishments behind as well.

Once they cross the boarder into America, many are forced to navigate a disheartening transition from economic success to a financial downfall that leaves them in the unforgiving grasps of poverty.

Highly educated and successful immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa are generally underemployed in America, despite a few states initiating new practices and policies to help curve this troubling trend.

This is a story that Nasser Diallo, an immigrant from Guinea, West Africa, is all too familiar with.

Diallo fled his home after the military sprayed protesters with a wave of bullets. The former political journalist was covering the demonstration when the tragedy struck, according to The Root.

When word got out that the military government was looking for him, he knew he had to leave his home behind. With no transcripts or other documentation to serve as proof of his extensive professional background in journalism, his career failed to take off in America.

“I had to make a very, very tough choice to go back to school and restart from scratch,” Diallo, who also held a law degree back in Guinea, told The Root. “I didn’t have a choice. I was going nowhere. By the time I’m going to graduate, I’ll be maybe 50.”

Unfortunately, Diallo’s story is only becoming more and more common as a part of a system that some experts say has resulted in widespread “brain waste.”

“We’ve all heart about brain drain,” Jeanne Batalova, a senior policy analyst with the Migration Policy Institute, told The Root. “This is brain waste.”

MPI reports that 1 in every 5 college-educated immigrants from another country is actually unemployed or underemployed in America. This means doctors, lawyers, psychologists, journalists, educators, esteemed authors, nurses and other professionals who have a lot to offer their communities and the economy at large, are instead being forced into unemployment lines or being asked to fulfill duties that don’t even utilize their degrees or years of experience in a particular field.

In addition to the cultural barriers and obstacles of racial discrimination, experts also point to the varying federal and state requirements for different professions in the U.S. as a culprit behind the underemployment of these immigrants.

“If you’re a nurse or a doctor, there are so many federal and state requirements that you have to fill,” Jeff Gross, the director of the New Americans Integration Institute at the Massachusetts Immigration and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, told The Root. “It’s very, very complicated and time-consuming.”

In professions of all types, however, there has always been a greater value placed on American degrees when compared to other countries across the globe; thus presenting yet another major hurdle in the way of highly educated immigrants.

Despite the severity of such a problem, little has been done to address the issue on a federal level, although states like Michigan have been slightly more proactive by teaming up with Upwardly Global.

Upwardly Global is described by The Root as an “employment advocacy agency for immigrants, to craft clear-cut licensing guides for 20 professions, so immigrants know exactly how to proceed.”

The state has also passed a bill that helps experienced barbers from other countries launch their businesses in America sooner without having to fulfill the same amount of instruction hours as someone without professional experience under their belt.

Another bill, passed in February, was introduced in the Illinois General Assembly to prohibit anyone from denying someone a professional license because of their immigration status.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/05/20/highly-educated-african-migrants-find-themselves-trapped-in-cycle-of-poverty-in-america/
Foreign Affairs / Re: Survey: Nigerians Most Educated In The U.S. - BET by anonymous6(f): 1:58pm On Sep 21, 2015
Sunexy:
We shud do better... Dats y we are THE BLACKS

understood but it starts from somewhere and the rise of Black African billionaires in Africa shows we are progressing. However it is sad that foreign black suffer double jeopardy being black and foreign
Business / Re: List Of Nigerian Tycoons That Impact Ghana's Economy by anonymous6(f): 1:57pm On Sep 21, 2015
wow interesting list
Foreign Affairs / Survey: Nigerians Most Educated In The U.S. - BET by anonymous6(f): 1:38pm On Sep 21, 2015
Analysis of U.S. Census data and other surveys show Nigerian immigrants and their descendants score highest when it comes to earning degrees.

Nigerian Americans have long been known for their community’s intense cultural emphasis on education, and now an analysis of Census data coupled with several local surveys shows that Nigerians don't just value education, but surpass all other U.S. ethnic groups when it comes to obtaining degrees.



"Being Black, you are already at a disadvantage," Oluyinka Olutoye, an associate professor of pediatric surgery at Baylor College of Medicine, told the Houston Chronicle. "You really need to excel far above if you want to be considered for anything in this country."



According to 2006 census data, 37 percent of Nigerians in the U.S. had bachelor's degrees, 17 percent held master's degrees and 4 percent had doctorates. In contrast, the same census data showed only 19 percent of white Americans had bachelor’s degrees, 8 percent held master’s degrees and only 1 percent held doctorates, the paper reports.



The census data was bolstered by an independent analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys conducted by Rice University and commissioned by the Chronicle.


"These are higher levels of educational attainment than were found in any other...community," Stephen Klineberg, a sociologist at Rice University who conducts the annual Houston Area Survey, told the paper.



However, despite the strides in education made by many African immigrants, including Nigerian-Americans, discrimination still colors their prospects for employment. A study of 2010 employment data by the Economic Policy Institute showed that, across nationalities and ethnic groups, Black immigrants carried the highest unemployment rate of all foreign-born workers.



In addition to cultural expectations about obtaining higher education, the paper reports that many African immigrants are more likely to pursue higher education as a means of maintaining their immigrant status in the U.S.



"In a way, it's a Catch-22 — because of immigration laws you are forced to remain in school, but then the funny thing is you end up getting your doctorate at the age of 29," Amadu Jacky Kaba, an associate professor at Seton Hall University in South Orange, NJ, told the paper. "If you stay in school, immigration will leave you alone."

http://www.bet.com/news/national/2012/03/20/survey-nigerians-most-educated-in-the-u-s.html

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Literature / Re: Harry Potter Fans: New Harry Potter: by anonymous6(f): 1:30pm On Sep 21, 2015
Rexceedo:

wad abt in enugu pls

I didn't see any for enugu
Culture / Re: The Ghanaian-Igbo-Yoruba Woman That Saved The Population Of Lagos From Ebola by anonymous6(f): 1:24pm On Sep 08, 2015
Emilokoiyawon:
Ameyo Adadevoh (born Ameyo Stella Shade Adadevoh; 27 October 1956 – 19 August 2014) was a Nigerian physician.
Her great-grandfather, Herbert Macaulay,[1] is one of the most celebrated founders of modern Nigeria. Her grandfather was from the illustrious Adadevoh family of the Volta Region of Ghana, to which she was very much connected, though she lived in Lagos. Her father was also a physician and former Vice chancellor of the University of Lagos.[2]
She is credited with having curbed a wider spread of the Ebola virus in Nigeria by placing the patient zero, Patrick Sawyer, in quarantine despite pressures from the Liberian Government.[3][4] On 4 August 2014, it was confirmed that she tested positive for Ebola virus disease and was being treated.[5]
Adadevoh died in the afternoon of 19 August 2014.[6] She was posthumously praised for preventing the Nigerian index case from leaving the hospital at the time of diagnosis, thereby playing a key role in curbing the spread of the virus in Nigeria.
MAY HER SOUL REST IN PEACE

Yea I heard about her last year in the news. May her soul rest in peace

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Culture / Re: Why Are African Women Jealous Of Interracial Couples by anonymous6(f): 7:31pm On Sep 05, 2015
Fulaman198:


Thanks,

That's a great article, and I agree with everything she has said. As a black man, I did experience racism in the United States despite being from a foreign country. In fact another Fulani man (Amadou Diallo) was killed in New York when I was still a teenager in 1999.

I don't understand why the United States is such a racist country. Maybe it's because of this racism, often black women can not be themselves and do whatever they can to imitate white women. They should not do this and should be themselves and be proud of their beautiful African culture(s).

Both black men and women alike suffer in the United States, that's for sure.

Exactly, America as great as it is has the most complicated racial issues in the world. It has affected african american women the most when it comes to finding partners, and some are going overseas for that cause overseas they are getting more appreciation
http://www.expatloveconnections.com/triumphs-and-travesties-black-women-on-dating-overseas/#

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Culture / Re: Why Are African Women Jealous Of Interracial Couples by anonymous6(f): 7:15pm On Sep 05, 2015
Fulaman198:


I guess that's my question why do "White European men" come second for African women? What do they see in White European men? I don't get it. To me, the darker the better. That's why I'm attracted to females with dark features (African women - Especially Fulani women being my #1, then other African women, then Indian and Arab). I like women with dark hair and dark eyes, with a bit of colour on them. I'm not into women who are kind of not tanned. I don't know why.

I love your appreciation for african women fulaman, thank God there are many african and nigerian men that think like you

any way back to the topic, I think its because to be honest after african men, white european men(the ones that are attracted to african women or black women) show appreciation for black african beauty and they are not shy about it, and some african women are receptive to that and they tend to be the only men for the most part after african men to do that to Black african women or other black women; I don't see asian, indian and etc men doing that. There are other reasons of course but I think thats one big one. you need to read this link it touches base on it: http://www.zarachiron.com/2015/02/black-woman-in-europe/

I'm not saying Europe is perfect when it comes to race cause its far from it but people will be attracted and receptive to people who are receptive to them in the end of the day.

When I say European men, I mean British, Italian, German, French, Scottish men for the most part not Russian or Eastern european men
Culture / Re: Why Are African Women Jealous Of Interracial Couples by anonymous6(f): 7:03pm On Sep 05, 2015
Fulaman198:


ROFL, it's not like that. I didn't have any partners in the states when I schooled there. I had an interest in 3 girls during University when I schooled in the states (thank Goodness that only lasted for 5 years and now I'm back in Naija).

One girl was a beautiful girl from Senegal who spoke fluent Fulfulde/Pulaar so you can understand it made me happy to be able to speak my native tongue with her being from Nigeria. But guess what, she had some strange fetish for white guys.......White guys shorter than myself, less well-built and whatever I'm not even going to whine about it because it makes me look like a fool.

Another girl I had a crush on was a beautiful Ethiopian girl who also seemed to have a strange fetish for white guys and ignored her Ethio bros ROFLLLL (they told me that something is very wrong with African women in the states, but the same can be said about the men).

The last girl was a Yoruba girl from Abeokuta who also had some strange fetish with white guys......


So my question is why only white guys? I can understand that sometimes you see men of other ethnicities, whether they are Arab, Indian, Asian (Oriental), Hispanic, etc. But African women have a tenacity or propensity to pursue white males only........They place them on a higher pedestal.

For me however, I don't believe in IR and lots of white girls were attracted to me, and tried to befriend me but I wasn't interested. If I could not be with an African woman, then my next choice with probably be either an Indian girl or Arab girl. White girls are definitely nowhere near the top of my list. So why are white guys on the top of the list with African women?

I think there are multiple reasons why this is the case first of all most asian and indian men are not into African or black women and vice versa and if they are it is a small amount and in that small amount, most wont lead to marriage. Arab men(especially Lebanese), there is a small amount of them that are into black women but if they date or marry outside their race they tend to go after white women over black women. Funny part the men besides African men that at times show more interest over the other men you listed for african women or black women are white men, weird but true, particularily european men. The strange thing with them it's 50/50, its either their not interested in black women or they are, there is no in between with them.

When it comes to african women, majority put african men in a pedestal but that doesn't mean they don't have alternatives and white european men come in second for them.
Culture / Re: Why Are African Women Jealous Of Interracial Couples by anonymous6(f): 6:40pm On Sep 05, 2015
DashMeYansh:
Yesterday I was taking a casual stroll through my nairaland District then I hit my toe on the Carl Ikeme National Team news. He is A Biracial. I felt disgusted when I saw this "Girl" ******* Ranting about how he wasn't Nigerian and he isn't Black. She was just spewing Thrash that made me sick.

The problem isn't far stretched. Is it that they have low self-esteem and feel less comfortable about their Body. In my High school I Dated 2 Caucasians and I didn't really feel the hatred. I also dated a Kenya. But there was this particular Naija babe in my high school that hated me for life.......maybe she had a crush on me.

When I got to college, I started dating a Latvian Beauty then I got the full blast of their hatred. Snide Remarks here and there, even the African Babes that I thought I was cool with became enemies overnight. African Americans, African Beauties, The occasional Racist Potbelly I wasn't spared.

It just baffles me that when my guys see me, they are genuinely happy for me(maybe because they know bits just a fling). African guys really don't care.....while my Black Sisters see me as a Traitor to Motherland.

African Diasporans what say you......?

Cc: Bigfrancis21, odumchi, fulaman198

I could careless to be honest and the university I went African women and men were dating outside their race and I never seen snide or jealous remarks from either side. However most had or ended up with partners that were from their african country. I think african women are less resistant to seeing african men in interracial relationships cause there are plenty of african men and other men out there so they don't have to worry about men supply but in the african american community it is a different story, it's a big debate between african american men and women; which I experienced as well in college

I must add though this is not only unique to black people. I have seen this with indian women to, they had that similar attitude that african women had when their men dated outside their race. I had many indian female freinds and they talk amongst each other when their men date outside their race. There were indian men in the school and some of them dated outside their race particularily white or asian(oriental) women and the indian females were not happy about it but they kept that opinion amongst themselves most of the time.

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Culture / Re: Dark Skin VS Light Skin by anonymous6(f): 5:00am On Sep 03, 2015
bigfrancis21:


Right. Criticism when done in a constructive way still does not go down well with the AAs. One trait amongst AAs that pisses me off is the 'I dont care attitude' that most of them have. They do things without thinking about the consequences or public image. I understand that growing up amidst racism and institutionalized racism they had to grow a tough skin to be able to survive but I think it has gotten to the extent that they don't care at all to listen again. I am speaking from personal experience myself. An AA male colleague of mine just would never take correction from our supervisor without giving her stories of his so-called life circumstances no one cares about to listen. It doesn't matter where you've been or where you're from. Just listen, take corrections and do your work. He never listens to corrections without wallowing in stories of self-pity, how he should be excused for his unprofessional behaviour because, according to him, he grew up in the streets and nearly almost went to jail. This guy would leave the work environment at will in the middle of a very busy time with customers to go downstairs and roam about, or plainly sit down while others are busy attending to customers, or takes stuff anyhow as he likes to take home, or won't take out the trash that he is his job to do. As soon as our supervisor leaves for the day, this guy just doesn't do sh!t anymore (called eye service in Nigeria). In fact, he has free 1 hour or 2 being paid for doing nothing. He zooms off and next you'll see him is 5 minutes nearing his clock out time he comes to 'show face'. You remind him to take out the trash as he is leaving and he gets all defensive with you and starts throwing a tantrum. Next, he calls you a hater and for the next couple of weeks he'll come to work and won't talk to you, expecting to be pampered for simply trying to correct him. Maybe his momma at home raised him pampering him like a baby but you don't expect people at work to pamper a full grown adult man in his late 40s. Stop being a child and grow up. You can't tell him nothing. We understand that you were lucky in life by not going to jail, but the past is past and you are being given a chance to make things right. Accept that you have issues about yourself to work on and improve on yourself. Quit giving silly excuse for being plain lazy and unprofessional at work. Having considered his issue deeply, I came up with an idea on how to tame his excesses and shared it with others which they all liked and adopted. 1, 2, 3 weeks passed, we could see the effect wearing off on him. As we speak, there has been much improvement. He has become more professional, stopped leaving at intervals when we are busy, stopped 'stealing' office stuff to take home etc. He still has one final issue which we are still working on to get him to stop - being loud-mouthed and talking too much. Anyway, that's for another day.

Plus several other personal encounters i've had with others.

Self-criticism is quite a hard job for many in the AA community to do and that is the only way we learn and grow.

I honestly think that Tommy is doing the right thing because even constructive criticism wouldn't work neither with the audience of his message. I guess he knows his people to well to know better.

We'll you summed it up and are correct. I give you kudos for dealing with that dude at your job, I have bumped into people like that in my job and I just ignored them and went about my business. That mentality needs to be wiped out of the african American community, for that community to move forward. I don't agree with tommy way of how he criticize but I do agree with your assessment of him that he knows more about his community then you and me do.
Culture / Re: Dark Skin VS Light Skin by anonymous6(f): 9:55pm On Sep 02, 2015
bigfrancis21:


I do really think that the Tommy Sotomayor guy is doing a great job by being honest and upfront about issues concerning the african american community. To be honest, from my observation African Americans hate to criticize themselves or admit that they have issues in the first place which should be worked on. Everybody, group, tribe and nation on this earth has an issue. They love to put the blame on others for every issue that they have and hate direct confrontation or being told the truth. Tommy and I share similar personality. I can be very direct about issues and will always tell them as they are.

In life, sometimes we just need to stop and do some soul checking on ourselves, for that is the only way that we can grow. If we choose to keep on ignoring that there is a problem and act like it doesn't exist or blame it all on others except ourselves, then there can never be improvement.

Tommy is just being real with AA issues and the tirade of response comment and speeches coming from AA ladies is representative of their preference to rather deny that there is a problem than admit that there is a problem and seek ways to improve.

Now, some people might not like my words but I am just keeping it real.


you are right but the difference between you and Tommy is, Tommy is plain nutts and rude with his criticism while you are articulate and respectful about your criticism. However would it make a difference how criticism is done in the african american community because as you said which I agree with most african americans don't listen to constructive criticism at all and either label it as HATERS or attack the person in full force; Oprah, Bill Cosby(yup another topic), Charles Barkley, Chris Rock and many others have felt the brunt of it from their own community when they criticize the community. Even though thats the case Tommy seems to be adding fuel to the fire in his own community.
Culture / Re: Why African Women Must Go Natural by anonymous6(f): 6:29pm On Sep 02, 2015
Moana:
you failed to answer the question. how long does she take to do that? what does she do to her hair before sleeping?

FYI i will not stop putting in hair extensions because it takes me 3mins to straighten the hair before lectures and all i have to do before bed is tie it up in a bun and go to sleep. i have fine hair that breaks like no man's business in winter. i will not move around with hair that i know is hard to maintain because someone somewhere thinks its degrading and shameful. Maybe your wife has the time and energy some of dont have to spend hours on her hair before going out of the house all in the bid of pleasing her husband.
I content with my extensions that take lesser time to maintain. If it gives you sleepless nights all well thats your problem and i will not lose an eye because of it.

While you are still forming undiluted African kindly ask your wife to stop shaving and using tampons on her periods, because this was influenced by white people. Black people never shaved. Thank you smiley

LMAO
Culture / Re: Why African Women Must Go Natural by anonymous6(f): 6:08pm On Sep 02, 2015
aim5:


As long as you don't wear weave.. it's fine to me.

Amen lol
Culture / Re: Dark Skin VS Light Skin by anonymous6(f): 6:08pm On Sep 02, 2015
aim5:


Hmm are you Igbo?

yoruba
Culture / Re: Why African Women Must Go Natural by anonymous6(f): 5:38pm On Sep 02, 2015
aim5:


Good to see that you're natural. Nothing more sexierr than a black woman who wears her natural hair... it's so beautiful.

well I mentioned that I don't wear weaves(never have) but I do relax my hair and I am not ashamed of it
Culture / Re: Dark Skin VS Light Skin by anonymous6(f): 5:37pm On Sep 02, 2015
aim5:


I take it you don't like him haha and are you Nigerian American like me?

Yea I don't care for him but I am not concerned with the nonsense he does in youtube, thank God we don't have lunatics like that in the Nigerian community and yes I'm Nigerian American

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