God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler

A Member? Please Login  
type your username and password to login
Date: October 07, 2008, 11:40 PM
247321 members and 146292 Topics
Latest Member: edelwiess
Nairaland [Nigerian Forum] Home Help Search Who is currently online? Login Register
Nairaland Forum  |  General Discussion  |  Politics  |  Foreign Affairs  |  God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
Pages: (1) Go Down Send this topic Notify of replies
Author Topic: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler  (Read 170 views)
therationa (m)
God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
« on: February 16, 2008, 01:04 AM »

Apparently, it is God who is responsible for selecting the rulers of countries be they democratic or otherwise, dictators, tyrants or benign rulers.  If this is the case, and given God's omniscience, you would expect God's selection procedure would ensure only the righteous and just are made rulers of their countries. However, this is not what really happens. From time immemorial, we have seen rulers pillage and destroy their countries, to the detriment of their own citizens; think of most of Africa. Nigeria is a case in point. One of the most religious nations on earth, with the level of privations not untypical of the 15 century. What is happening with God's ministration?

This is what the Apostle Paul had to say about the rulers of countries, Romans 13;

1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.


In the light of the above, should an oppressed people seek to overthrow a corrupt and unjust ruler?

=====================================================================================================

Some of my other threads


The Dangers Of Religious Fundamentalism To Intellectualism
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110955.msg1929006#msg1929006

Cannibalism In The Bible: Det 28:53-57, Lev 26:29, Jer 19:9, Ezek 5:10, Lam 4:10
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113181.0.html#msg1961343

What Are The Core Tenets (doctrines, Value And Virtues) Of Christainity?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112990.0.html

What Fate For Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Constantine And Tomás De Torquemada?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112997.0.html#msg1958617

Is The Doctrine Of Trinity Biblical? The Johannine Comma
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112865.0.html#msg1957266

On The Authenticity Of The New Testament, Part 2
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112848.0.html

How Is Salvation Achieved?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112833.0.html

Only For Those Who Know Their Bibles And Some History: Who Was Jesus?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112697.msg1954632#msg1954632

Only For Those Who Know Their Bibles: Old Testament Stories
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112679.msg1954426#msg1954426

Human Sacrifice In The Bible: Lev 27: 29 & Judges 11
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112584.msg1953340#msg1953340

Please, Please, Please: Christians - Read Read Read Your Bibles
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112578.msg1953311#msg1953311

When Was Jesus Crucified?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112557.msg1952665#msg1952665

On Conversion To A Religion (christianity Or I-slam)
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112547.msg1952353#msg1952353

Faith-healers And Tele-evangelists
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112398.msg1950528#msg1950528

Where Did Sin Originate?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112377.msg1950291#msg1950291

For The Non-beleivers Only, 1
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112262.msg1948957#msg1948957

Would Christains Be Criminals And Offenders If They Were Not Christians?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112259.msg1948919#msg1948919

On The Authenticity Of The New Testament, Part 1
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112240.msg1948631#msg1948631

Has Atheism Got Principle? No
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112216.msg1948180#msg1948180

It Is Biblical To Have Sex (and Lots Of It) Before Marriage
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112139.msg1946940#msg1946940

Should The Old Testament Laws Be Observed In The Modern Era?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112114.msg1946682#msg1946682

Founding A State or Nation On Religious Principles
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112086.msg1946268#msg1946268

Great Books About Non-belief
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111928.msg1943935#msg1943935

Who Are The Self-declared Non-believer? Resources For You
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111806.msg1942137#msg1942137

Beware of a Simplistic Interpretation of Jesus's 2nd Coming Passages
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111677.msg1939992#msg1939992

What Is The Evidence That The Bible Is The Word Of God?
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113161.0.html#msg1960928

Archbishop Cause Furore Over Sharia Law In The Uk
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111645.msg1939155#msg1939155

Eminent Christian Scientist (francis Collins) Explains The Evolution Of Humans
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111482.msg1936158#msg1936158

Please, Help Me Out With Your Knowledge Of The Bible
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111474.msg1936099#msg1936099

Why Biology Is So Important To Our Modern World
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111466.msg1935975#msg1935975

Genesis Vs Genetics
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111227.msg1932655#msg1932655

Jesus Genealogy
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111222.msg1932616#msg1932616

£300 (three - Hundred Pound Sterling) Essay Competition
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111143.msg1931508#msg1931508

Beware Of Religious Fundamentalism In Your University Campuses
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110965.msg1929160#msg1929160

====================================================================================================
TCUBE (m)
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
« #1 on: February 16, 2008, 06:14 AM »

amazing! were do u people get all this info?
therationa (m)
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitle
« #2 on: February 16, 2008, 10:48 AM »

Quote from: TCUBE on February 16, 2008, 06:14 AM
amazing! were do u people get all this info?

It is all out there, libraries, bookshops etc. And learning who to think freely, without being encumbered by superstitious beliefs.
stimulus (m)
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
« #3 on: February 16, 2008, 11:11 AM »

Quote from: therationa on February 16, 2008, 10:48 AM
And learning who to think freely, without being encumbered by superstitious beliefs.

Not that we have seen you think freely and been able to stand to defend your own assumptions. I keep asking you that one very thing - and I'm not disappointed that you have repeatedly ducked the offer to debate your misgivings.

When you do have the rational to discuss them, the invitations are still open. I'D like to see you sanely discuss issues without scooting off and seeing those threads dying prematurely or your resorting to wild remarks simply because you can't hold your views to spirited discussions.
stimulus (m)
Re: God Selects The Rulers Of Countries; G W Bush, Sadam, Pol Pot, Abacha, Hitler
« #4 on: February 16, 2008, 11:15 AM »

@therationa,

Quote from: therationa on February 16, 2008, 01:04 AM
Apparently, it is God who is responsible for selecting the rulers of countries be they democratic or otherwise, dictators, tyrants or benign rulers. If this is the case, and given God's omniscience, you would expect God's selection procedure would ensure only the righteous and just are made rulers of their countries. However, this is not what really happens.

And why is it so that it is not what happens?

Quote from: therationa on February 16, 2008, 01:04 AM
From time immemorial, we have seen rulers pillage and destroy their countries, to the detriment of their own citizens; think of most of Africa. Nigeria is a case in point. One of the most religious nations on earth, with the level of privations not untypical of the 15 century. What is happening with God's ministration?

Did that question arise as a genuine effort to understand "God's ministration" or merely a typical quip to be derisive?

Quote from: therationa on February 16, 2008, 01:04 AM
In the light of the above, should an oppressed people seek to overthrow a corrupt and unjust ruler?

Interesting question. What would be your own recommendations, theration? Grin
 Massob Threatened To Strip Okorie Naked For Insulting Ojukwu  Obama's Message To His Camp  The Iraq War Is Now 5 Years Old!  Page 2
Pages: (1) Go Up Send Topic to Friend by E-mail Reply 
Google
 
Web www.nairaland.com
Sections: TV/Movies (2) Music/Radio (2) Celebrities Job Talk Jobs/Vacancies (2) Career Talk Romance Books Politics Sports Fashion Travel
Health Schooling Religion General(2) Business Webmaster Programming Computers Phones Cars & Trucks

Links: Page1 Page2 Page3 Page4 Page5 Page6 Page7 Page8 Page9 Page10

Nairaland is owned by Oluwaseun Osewa
Nairaland Forum | Powered by SMF 1.0.12.
© 2001-2005, Lewis Media. All Rights Reserved.