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I have shown on some of my other threads why one must treat with caution with some of the major narratives of the bible. I showed that from the biblical narratives, it is not possible to reconcile the Nativity stories within the gospels and with the historical actualities. In this thread, I would like to pose a general question, which is the following; Are there any biblical events or narratives that can be demonstrated as having historical verifiability?
For instance, can the following events be shown to have a basis in history? 1) Garden of Eden 2) The Jewish sojourn in Egypt 3) The Noah Flood 4) The conquest at Jericho 5) Earthquake at the crucifixion of Jesus 6) Resurrection of dead saints 7) King David's kingdom 8-) The massacre of the innocent by Herod 9) The star of Bethlehem 10) The existence of King Ezekiel 11) The existence of Jesus ===================================================================================================== Some of my other threads The Dangers Of Religious Fundamentalism To Intellectualism http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110955.msg1929006#msg1929006 Origin Of Christianity And Diabolical Mimicry In Anticipationhttp://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113860.0.html Hell Past, Hell Present; Which Do You Prefer?http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113947.0.html#msg1971669 On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus, Part 2: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113676.0.html On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114215.0.html When And From Where Did Jesus Ascend Into Heaven http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113519.0.html http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418 When Was Jesus Born?http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113449.0.html On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus 13012dg http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113342.0.html#msg1963529 Was Jesus The Prophesied Messiah? 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Nohttp://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112216.msg1948180#msg1948180It Is Biblical To Have Sex (and Lots Of It) Before Marriagehttp://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112139.msg1946940#msg1946940Should The Old Testament Laws Be Observed In The Modern Era?http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112114.msg1946682#msg1946682Founding A State or Nation On Religious Principleshttp://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=112086.msg1946268#msg1946268Great Books About Non-belief http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=111928.msg1943935#msg1943935Who Are The Self-declared Non-believer? 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imhotep
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I have shown on some of my other threads why one must treat with caution with some of the major narratives of the bible. I showed that from the biblical narratives, it is not possible to reconcile the Nativity stories within the gospels and with the historical actualities.
In this thread, I would like to pose a general question, which is the following;
Are there any biblical events or narratives that can be demonstrated as having historical verifiability?
For instance, can the following events be shown to have a basis in history?
1) Garden of Eden
2) The Jewish sojourn in Egypt
3) The Noah Flood
4) The conquest at Jericho
5) Earthquake at the crucifixion of Jesus
6) Resurrection of dead saints
7) King David's kingdom
8-) The massacre of the innocent by Herod
9) The star of Bethlehem
10) The existence of King Ezekiel
@therationa You forgot to add -> 11) The existence of Jesus Christ |
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therationa (m)
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@therationa
You forgot to add ->
11) The existence of Jesus Christ
OK, since you want that, I shall add it to the list. Would you like to take the challenge to show that any of these eventsare historically verifiable? |
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imhotep
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OK, since you want that, I shall add it to the list. Would you like to take the challenge to show that any of these events are historically verifiable?
I believe the account of the witnesses. I also believe these accounts should be properly interpreted. So, I do not need any further proof.You, on the other hand, should PROVE (beyond reasonable doubt) that these events are not historically verifiable. |
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therationa (m)
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I believe the account of the witnesses. I also believe these accounts should be properly interpreted. So, I do not need any further proof.
You, on the other hand, should PROVE (beyond reasonable doubt) that these events are not historically verifiable.
OK. I bet you also believe the accounts of Mu-hammed, don't you? He also is known to have existed and also had witnesses. |
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imhotep
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OK. I bet you also believe the accounts of Mu-hammed, don't you? He also is known to have existed and also had witnesses.
@therationa Now, this is YOUR input, NOT MINE. |
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therationa (m)
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@therationa
Now, this is YOUR input, NOT MINE.
Well, if you don't understand, that was sarcasm, brother  What are you views of Mu-hammed and on what basis do you accept (if you do) or reject (if you do) his accounts? |
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imhotep
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What are you views of Mu-hammed and on what basis do you accept (if you do) or reject (if you do) his accounts?
My main problem with Moh@mmed is the far-reaching and contradictory conclusions he made about Christ. Moh@mmed never saw or spoke with Christ. The disciples did and wrote down what they saw and heard. Therefore I believe the gospel accounts of Christ. I reject Moh@mmed's ideas about Christ. |
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therationa (m)
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My main problem with Moh@mmed is the far-reaching and contradictory conclusions he made about Christ.
Moh@mmed never saw or spoke with Christ. The disciples did and wrote down what they saw and heard.
Therefore I believe the gospel accounts of Christ. I reject Moh@mmed's ideas about Christ.
Do you accept his claims that he was the last prophet of God? If so, on what basis. If not, provide your reasons? |
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imhotep
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Do you accept his claims that he was the last prophet of God? If so, on what basis. If not, provide your reasons?
No, I do not accept. Why, because he materially altered truths about Christ that other prophets (Isaiah, Daniel, David, etc who lived hundreds of years before Christ) uttered and wrote down. |
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huxley (m)
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Good time to look at these question again
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syrup (f)
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No, I do not accept. Why, because he materially altered truths about Christ that other prophets (Isaiah, Daniel, David, etc who lived hundreds of years before Christ) uttered and wrote down. I'm inclined to believe that as well. |
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KAG (f)
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I have shown on some of my other threads why one must treat with caution with some of the major narratives of the bible. I showed that from the biblical narratives, it is not possible to reconcile the Nativity stories within the gospels and with the historical actualities.
In this thread, I would like to pose a general question, which is the following;
Are there any biblical events or narratives that can be demonstrated as having historical verifiability?
For instance, can the following events be shown to have a basis in history?
1) Garden of Eden
2) The Jewish sojourn in Egypt
3) The Noah Flood
4) The conquest at Jericho
5) Earthquake at the crucifixion of Jesus
6) Resurrection of dead saints
7) King David's kingdom
8-) The massacre of the innocent by Herod
9) The star of Bethlehem
10) The existence of King Ezekiel
11) The existence of Jesus
Only the last one, and that's somewhat sketchy at best. The one no apologist seems willing to tackle, at least in my experience, is the resurrection of the dead saints thing. There's a lot of skirting when that one is involved. |
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longman83 (m)
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7) King David's kingdom
Have you heard of the Tel Dan Stele? 10) The existence of King Ezekiel
Who? |
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