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On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by therationa(m): 10:09am On Feb 20, 2008 |
I have shown on some of my other threads why one must treat with caution with some of the major narratives of the bible. I showed that from the biblical narratives, it is not possible to reconcile the Nativity stories within the gospels and with the historical actualities. In this thread, I would like to pose a general question, which is the following; Are there any biblical events or narratives that can be demonstrated as having historical verifiability? For instance, can the following events be shown to have a basis in history? 1) Garden of Eden 2) The Jewish sojourn in Egypt 3) The Noah Flood 4) The conquest at Jericho 5) Earthquake at the crucifixion of Jesus 6) Resurrection of dead saints 7) King David's kingdom 8-) The massacre of the innocent by Herod 9) The star of Bethlehem 10) The existence of King Ezekiel 11) The existence of Jesus ===================================================================================================== Some of my other threads The Dangers Of Religious Fundamentalism To Intellectualism https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=110955.msg1929006#msg1929006 Origin Of Christianity And Diabolical Mimicry In Anticipation https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113860.0.html Hell Past, Hell Present; Which Do You Prefer? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113947.0.html#msg1971669 On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus, Part 2: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113676.0.html On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114215.0.html When And From Where Did Jesus Ascend Into Heaven https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113519.0.html https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418 https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-114023.0.html#msg1972418 When Was Jesus Born? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113449.0.html On The Prophesy Of The Virgin Birth Of Jesus [/b]13012dg https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-113342.0.html#msg1963529 [b] Was Jesus The Prophesied Messiah? 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Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by Nobody: 10:16am On Feb 20, 2008 |
therationa: @therationa You forgot to add -> 11) The existence of Jesus Christ |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by therationa(m): 12:22pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
imhotep: OK, since you want that, I shall add it to the list. Would you like to take the challenge to show that any of these eventsare historically verifiable? |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by Nobody: 12:27pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
therationa: I believe the account of the witnesses. I also believe these accounts should be properly interpreted. So, I do not need any further proof. You, on the other hand, should PROVE (beyond reasonable doubt) that these events are not historically verifiable. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by therationa(m): 12:31pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
imhotep: OK. I bet you also believe the accounts of Mu-hammed, don't you? He also is known to have existed and also had witnesses. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by Nobody: 12:36pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
therationa:@therationa Now, this is YOUR input, NOT MINE. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by therationa(m): 12:41pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
imhotep: Well, if you don't understand, that was sarcasm, brother What are you views of Mu-hammed and on what basis do you accept (if you do) or reject (if you do) his accounts? |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by Nobody: 1:06pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
therationa: My main problem with Moh@mmed is the far-reaching and contradictory conclusions he made about Christ. Moh@mmed never saw or spoke with Christ. The disciples did and wrote down what they saw and heard. Therefore I believe the gospel accounts of Christ. I reject Moh@mmed's ideas about Christ. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by therationa(m): 1:08pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
imhotep: Do you accept his claims that he was the last prophet of God? If so, on what basis. If not, provide your reasons? |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by Nobody: 1:19pm On Feb 20, 2008 |
therationa: No, I do not accept. Why, because he materially altered truths about Christ that other prophets (Isaiah, Daniel, David, etc who lived hundreds of years before Christ) uttered and wrote down. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by huxley(m): 4:12pm On May 28, 2008 |
Good time to look at these question again |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by syrup(f): 4:14pm On May 28, 2008 |
imhotep: I'm inclined to believe that as well. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by KAG: 2:29pm On May 29, 2008 |
therationa: Only the last one, and that's somewhat sketchy at best. The one no apologist seems willing to tackle, at least in my experience, is the resurrection of the dead saints thing. There's a lot of skirting when that one is involved. |
Re: On The Historical Reliability Of The Bible by longman83(m): 3:14pm On May 29, 2008 |
therationa: Have you heard of the Tel Dan Stele? therationa:Who? |
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