u know i was gonna post a topic on N-L about celebrities but i dont know whether or not pastors fit in as celebrities in Nigeria.

but i think anyone who dresses in hugo boss suits, appears on primetimeTV and has a large following of adulating fans(doesn't quite sound like a pastor, does it?) qualifies to be a celebrity.

what do u think?

All TV preachers are celebrities. Feel free to make topics about them!

Lol, Seun. It depends on the meaning of celebrity. There are a few I've been privileged to watch on TV who are not in that class and do not encourage such lifestyle. One is the late Adrain Rogers on Bellview Baptist Church in TN, USA; another id Dr. David Jeremiah of Turning Point Ministry (another Baptist in USA); a third is Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministry (Presbyterian minister), and a fourth is Zac Poonen of Bangalore, India.

Okay, these are admittedly 'foreign' ministers, but I've been out of Nigeria for so long as to know what's happening back home. I know there are a lot of Televangelists who are flamboyant and celebrity-style ministers; but perhaps there are others in Nigeria or on the Africac Continent who are not so lavish or extravagant in their tastes and lifestyles.

A celebrity is a person who is widely recognized (famous) in a society and commands a high degree of public and media attention. The word stems from the Latin celebritas, itself from the adjective celeber meaning 'famous, celebrated'. While fame is generally considered to be the major prerequisite for celebrity status, it is not always sufficient. There has to be a level of public interest in the person which may or may not be connected to the reason they are famous.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity Gwaine, I guess you are right.

no i dont think preacher should be celebrities but then again jesus was sort of a celebrity in his days

I'm not sure that's such a good idea though!!!

My Pastor is a celebrity.

they are def celebrities. (in their own congregation) they have some kind of influence, and some of them have money.

like it or not, these pastors have a way of sneaking up on your attention. come back home folks, every sinner knows chris oyakilome by name and face, his name is synanymous with miracles. and as for grammar, take chris okotie, want some funkified americanised preaching, paul adefarasin will readily come to your mind. and the list goes long on.like it or not, they have their space and your attention. and as for the question of their celebriety status being right or wrong, i will just say even jesus was a celebriety in his days. but make una wait oh, how what happens to all those offerings and tithes under their care? am not suggesting it's helps a long way in tushing up their celebriety status oh. i no wan carry sin.

Pastors could be celebrities.
I don't see anything wrong with that
at all. John the baptisit was a celebrity, Jesus was DEFINATELY
a celebrity and so many other people in the bible.
Forget celebrity and other ways of finding faults please.

And why should they be celebrities? I thought men of the cloth were supposed to have a great degree of humility? From what i see these days, they are more than flambouyant. Is this a way of drawing people into their fold? Correct if I am wrong.

Darkchild:

And why should they be celebrities? I thought men of the cloth were supposed to have a great degree of humility? From what i see these days, they are more than flambouyant. Is this a way of drawing people into their fold? Correct if I am wrong.

i totally agree

if Jesus was a celebrity, i wonder why Judas Iscariot had to kiss him to identify him to the roman soldiers? often, it was easy for him to get away from a crowd because he looked really ordinary. surely, he would have been easy to recognise if he was dressed in designer robes and sandals- and had his hair permed

Carmelily,

U couldnt have been more precise!!!

I don't like topics like this.
All I do is go to church, listen
to the word and I'M GOOD!
No need for criticism.

Jesus was famous, he did things no one else had done. there's no way he wouldn't have been famous. however, we can see that his attitude to fame was different. whenever ppl came to see him, he turned them to God. pastors and evangelists with healing ministries, or large congregations would be famous but they should turn the ppl to God and away from themselves. The problem comes when they begin to enjoy the fame.

Hi Everybody,
I actually did not want to comment on this topic initially,
but i found it necessary to do so now.
I am sure we are very use to the story in the Bible about Miriam Moses sister.
She critisized Moses for marrying a foreign wife.
Truely she was right but God was angry with her.
Why? She talked wrongly about God's anointed and she attracted God's wrath.
The result was that she became a leper.
Lets be careful with this topic.
Leave God's anointed alone. Let HIM be their judge.
If their claim to be called by God, then it is none of our business critisizing their wrongs
Thanks

exactly ontop. . .
God bless u!
I don't like topics like this at all. . .

Mer-C:

I don't like topics like this at all. . .

Neither do i, Its just like asking is Jesus supposed to be a celebrity?

See eh!,everybody loves the good things of this life,even pastors.come to think it, pastors this days encourage their congregation to be the head and not the tail,and in the process of showing examples they(pastors) dress well,eat well,live in big houses,drive the best of cars or even acquire jets,etc and before you know it they become household names,thus celebrities.and don't forget that in Nigeria there is competition on getting new members so every pastor want to be heard.u understand?

Nothing wrong wiff that!
Chambers' Dictionary definition of Celebritiy: The condition of being celebrated: fame: notoreity: a person of distinction or fame.
As long as Pastors are celebrated for a good reason, then there's nothing bad to it. Even the word of God promises to set followers of God apart from other men. That will definitely make people celebrate you!

Mystique:

Neither do i, Its just like asking is Jesus supposed to be a celebrity?

1. are u equating pastors with JESUS?

2. is being a celebrity a good or a bad thing in your book?
(for me i bliv it depends on what's being celebrated)

fabian:

Nothing wrong wiff that!
Chambers' Dictionary definition of Celebritiy: The condition of being celebrated: fame: notoreity: a person of distinction or fame.
As long as Pastors are celebrated for a good reason, then there's nothing bad to it. Even the word of God promises to set followers of God apart from other men. That will definitely make people celebrate you!

thank you, fabian! but i think 'good reason' is relative sometimes. often, evil is just a point of view

Seriously though, some pple mistake evil for Godliness, but that's the way life is, I guess, we must all be suckers for summin sometime.

it depends on the pastors themselves,

if they want to be in the limelight they'll be they'll just do it with the pretense of tryin to reach everyone by using television,

the bogus ones would want it so that they can get more "customers" (u know wat i mean)

Jesus was definitely a celebrity.He was widely known and people came from very far to hear him.I'm sure if there was television in his day Judas wouldn't need to kiss him.lol

It's inevitable that pastors become celebrities,we live in a world of glitz,glamour and t.v. ratings.
It's okay as long as they don't become crazed egomaniacs as so often happens.

tianshie:


It's okay as long as they don't become crazed egomaniacs as so often happens.

my point exactly. see also GL's post above.

however, even though there was no TV then, jesus could have been flambuoyant enuff not to be missed in a crowd but he chose humility, to be average. can't remember any1 having to kiss pilate to identify him

tianshie:


It's okay as long as they don't become crazed egomaniacs as so often happens.

my point exactly. see also GL's post above.

however, even though there was no TV then, jesus could have been flambuoyant enuff not to be missed in a crowd but he chose humility, to be average. can't remember any1 having to kiss pilate to identify him

carmelily:

however, even though there was no TV then, jesus could have been flambuoyant enough not to be missed in a crowd

I agree with

carmelily:

can't remember anyone having to kiss pilate to identify him

Don't quite agree with
Pilate was governor of Judea.It was in the people's interest to know their ruler.I bet if Jesus were ruler everybody would know him despite his quiet disposition.

at least there IS 50% understanding between us on this thread!

Let's drink on that!

But dang!you ought to let me see that tattoo

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Let's drink on that!

carmelily:

LOL! rite after 2face does!

Not fair babie you know I asked first

tianshie:

Not fair babie you know I asked first

what do u think "African Queen" was about?