gerrard or lampard who's hotter

for me gerrard is hotter

for me gerrard is hotter

Definitely G for Gerrard.No controversy about that

there's no comparison 4 here. Gerrard is d don

No one tastes better soup and not know.

Eminent people have said it all b4 i log in.

NEVER COMPARE GENERAL wt SECOND LEIUTENANT.

General Gerrard pass LT. Lampard.

Very Clear.

a sick Gerrard is better than a fully fit Lampard

It is funny how people can be very sentimental about issue when they not look at the facts and figure on the ground, how can anyone that really is a good football follower can say Gerrard is better than Lampard we all know that invidual effort of them is not something we can compare.
For God knows how many season now Lampard has been scoring a double digit goals in the premiership and Gerard never goes near that and yet you say he is better, Lampard was voted the second best in the world after Ronaldinho and that was when Ronaldinho was really at his best yet Gerrard never achieve such feat in his career, Lampard is a more consistent a player than Gerrard as that he plays more and contribute more than Gerrard.
I will like anyone that believes Gerrard is better to please not put in any sentiments here but come up with his/her facts and figure to prove it all out.

This has to be a really close one

But i would plump for Gerrard!!

He has always risen to the ocassion when called upon and has a knack for single-handedly winning liverpool points

Doesnt do a lot for the national team however!

Let not add sentiment to the issue at hand. Lampard is better with the fact and record achieved. and hedgesfun has said it all.

@ Hedgesfun,

                   I Don't think this porpular view is at all sentimental.

You dont compare file wt fail, neither can u compare death wt sleep.

The two may seems close but are far from each other.
With NO sentiment, General is far better.
Goal does not determine Quality. If goals is all about it, Henry should have been world footballer of the year 2 or 3 times.
Also, if goal determines quality, Zidane, Ronaldo, Canavaro shouldn't have smelt W/F of the year.

If your view is this different, it may be because you are a Chelsea fan.
Good to support ur players, but not by distorting the truth.
I heard also from a chelsea fan saying Without Mikel, there is no Eagle.
I take all these comments as naive, because most chelsea fan are Sepe drinkers.

By and Large, A cat is far behind in the gathering of Lions.

@ chidipupay,

Hope your comment is yours.

Was Ronaldinho the world double-digit highest goal scorer when he won ahead of Lampard?

Answer wt yes or no.

On the field, there are goal manufacturers. No striker scores on his own 100% effort.

The man who threw a pass that beats 4 defenders to make his striker score has done more than the scorer.

Are you telling me that because Essien has not score many goals for chelsea, so he is not as good as Anelka?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Gerrard is a Veteran in Champion's League. He has lifted the cup not just as a player but a CAPTAIN.

He has played in the Final consecutively for four years with CAPTAIN band in his arm.

Can you understand that Captaincy is a big responsibilty?

When accessing things, it is better to go on overall accessment, instead of picking an area of strenght only.

Not at all about goals only, but about prolificity and versatility.

chidipupay:

Let not add sentiment to the issue at hand. Lampard is better with the fact and record achieved. and hedgesfun has said it all.

Bros,

what record r u talking abt? Frank Lampard has collected six medals. Two Premier Leagues, the FA Cup, two League Cups and the Community Shield.. Steve Gerrard has collected seven medals, has won the Champions League, two Uefa Super Cups, the FA Cup, the League Cup and two community shields.


The only trophy he hasnt won is the premier league but that cant be compared with the uefa cup not to talk of the champion's league

so based on honours and record, its straight for GENERAL GERRARD

Gerrard scores spectacular goals but Lampard scores more goals. Gerrard has scored 100 goals overall in his career, the same as Danny Murphy, Lampard has scored 100 in the league alone, talkless of other competitions.

Gerrard is a highlights player. If you only watch highlights, you will enjoy his surging runs and bullet shots. If you watch the full game, you will appreciate Lampard's controlled methodical approach better.

Lampard has more assists than Gerrard.

Lampard covers more km per game than Gerrard.

Lampard is better positionally than Gerrard. Many coaches refuse to play Gerrard in CM because he goes on walkabout like a playground schoolboy.

Lampard is better in tight spaces than Gerrard.

Lampard is more of a continental type midfielder whilst Gerrard is a throwback to the 1970's. Lampard plays a good short game whilst Gerrard is more of a long game player.

All we can say is Gerrard has more pace than Lampard, but he cannot dominate midfield because he loses the ball in tight spaces too easily.

If not for Gerrard's goals against West Ham in FA Cup 2006, we would not see the absurd media campaign to deride Lampard whilst praising Gerrard to the high heavens.

In reality, only one player has ever done it for England, Lampard being the top scorer in Euro 2004 and WC 2006 qualification and Euro 2004 itself, being voted England player of the year in 2004 and 2005. All we have from Gerrard is 8 years of excuses. The only year he manages to win England player of the year is the year England do not qualify for the European Championships. Injury to Lampard gave him the perfect opportunity to stake his claim, yet he was bossed around by Luka Modric, Sergei Semak and Igor Semshov. This goes to show that the gung-ho style of football Gerrard thrives on does not work in the tight spaces of international football.  

As Guillem Ballegue said on Revista de la Liga on tuesday, Xavi Hernandes is the best midfielder in the world at the moment, the only person that can compete with him for that title is Lampard.

Where is the debate? If not for ex-Liverpool infested media, this is not even a debate.

chidipupay:

Let not add sentiment to the issue at hand. Lampard is better with the fact and record achieved. and hedgesfun has said it all.

It's no brainer. . . . . .Gerrard is the best by an astronomical mile.

Lampard get the credits ONLY because he has more world class players around him in Chelsea.
Gerrard doesn't have such quality around him and he shoulders the responsibility of carrying the Liverpool team by himself.
I will not rate the TWO based on their performances in club football. . . . .What is their contribution for the national team.
Statistics show England play better WITHOUT Lampard.
Enuff said!!!

~Sauron~:

Lampard get the credits ONLY because he has more world class players around him in Chelsea.

What rubbish! So Drogba is better than Torres? Are Kalou, Malouda and Joe Cole world beaters? How much better than Riera and Babel are they?

People used to say that Lamps scored so many goals because he had Maka and Essien doing his defensive work. At which point I ask: what do Mascherano and Alonso do? Now, Lamps has more defensive responsibility because he has Deco and Mikel behind him who are not exactly strong defensively. Yet, he is still outscoring and out-assisting Gerrard.

As far as I am concerned, Alonso and Mascherano are almost as good as Mikel and Deco. Deco is better than Alonso whilst Mascherano is better than Mikel. On top of that, Gerrard is currently playing much far forward than Lamps.   

~Sauron~:

Statistics show England play better WITHOUT Lampard.
enough said!!!

Which statistics? Are you talking about the 4-1 hammering they handed to Croatia when Gerrard was injured?

As far as Capello is concerned, the only man for CM is Lampard. This is consistent with other managers such as Benitez, Sven and McLaren who consistently refuse to play Gerrard in CM, simply for the fact that his positioning is awful and he likes to go on walkabout like a kid in the playground.

It is debates like this where we see who the free thinkers are. I remember Beckhams worst game for England - the draw with Greece when they drew 2-2. If you watch the game, you would see that Beckham totally vacated his position, running all around the pitch from left to right, eating into the midfields space and exposing Gary Neville. Yet he scores a last minute free kick and the press lauds him as the greatest thing since sliced bread. He then started fancying himself as an all-rounder instead of sticking to his wing. He came back to Man Utd and tried those tactics of running everywhere, vacating his position and SAF kicked a boot into his face. Gerrard suffers from the same wandering disease now as Beckham did back then.

Ibime:

What rubbish! So Drogba is better than Torres? Are Kalou, Malouda and Joe Cole world beaters? How much better than Riera and Babel are they?

There are games where a manager would prefer a Drogba than a Torres!!!!
Torres would struggle to give defenders like Rio/Vidic problems while Drogba would pound em.
Chelsea works machine-like. . . . .Individually, those players look ordinary but when they play in unison, they are great.
Look at the Mourinho days of Chelsea with Duff n Robben running the channels. . . . .They would beat any team no matter where they play.

People used to say that Lamps scored so many goals because he had Maka and Essien doing his defensive work. At which point I ask: what do Mascherano and Alonso do? Now, Lamps has more defensive responsibility because he has Deco and Mikel behind him who are not exactly strong defensively. Yet, he is still outscoring and out-assisting Gerrard.

U cannot compare the spine of Chelsea in Makelele days to any Liverpool squad assembled by Rafa Benitez.
Manager's worries then were how do u beat this Chelsea side?? If u get past Makelele, u still have to contend with Terry/Carvalho.
If u manage to get past those, u have a Petr Cech who rarely makes mistakes. Midfielders are aware of this and it gives em the joy to bomb forward and support the attack. Gerrard also plays in many positions to help the team just like Ferguson uses Rooney on the wings sometimes.

As far as I am concerned, Alonso and Mascherano are almost as good as Mikel and Deco. Deco is better than Alonso whilst Mascherano is better than Mikel. On top of that, Gerrard is currently playing much far forward than Lamps. 

Lets wait till the end of the season before we take this into consideration.

Which statistics? Are you talking about the 4-1 hammering they handed to Croatia when Gerrard was injured?

I would provide the stats later.

As far as Capello is concerned, the only man for CM is Lampard. This is consistent with other managers such as Benitez, Sven and McLaren who consistently refuse to play Gerrard in CM, simply for the fact that his positioning is awful and he likes to go on walkabout like a kid in the playground.

Technically, Capello knows Lampard is the only rigid CM England has got.
Gerrard can be deployed in other positions and this is why Lampard gets to play in that role more than anyone else.
Can Lampz play on the wings or just behind a striker?? No.
The other quality midfielder(Hargreaves) is also an utility player so Lampard shades it being a mono-positional player.

It is debates like this where we see who the free thinkers are. I remember Beckhams worst game for England - the draw with Greece when they drew 2-2. If you watch the game, you would see that Beckham totally vacated his position, running all around the pitch from left to right, eating into the midfields space and exposing Gary Neville. Yet he scores a last minute free kick and the press lauds him as the greatest thing since sliced bread. He then started fancying himself as an all-rounder instead of sticking to his wing. He came back to Man Utd and tried those tactics of running everywhere, vacating his position and SAF kicked a boot into his face. Gerrard suffers from the same wandering disease now as Beckham did back then.

This is funny!!
Beckham did what he had to do on the day.
The attack misfired until Teddy Sheringham came in and scored from his very first touch.
England still conceded after that until Beckham's last gasp equaliser from a freekick(which he won while "wandering".

@ Ibime,

As at 20th of August 2008,

England with Gerrard(without Lampard)

Played: 21
Won:    16
Draws:  3
Losses: 2
Goals:   45
Win(%) 76

Goals per game: 2.14

England with Lampard(without Gerrard)

Played: 15
Won:     6
Draws:  2
Losses: 7
Goals:   19
Win(%)  40

Goals per game: 1.27


England with both Lampard and Gerrard

Played: 46
Wins:    28
Draws:  12
Losses: 6
Goals:   91
Win(%) 61

Goals per game: 1.98

As you can see, the stats indicate that England are better off when Gerrard is on the pitch and Lampard is in the stands.
Indeed, the Liverpool midfielder’s influence is indicated by the fact that the national team wins 76% of games when he is on the pitch without Lampard by his side.

Who is this IBIME?

                           With Lampard's prolificity and versatility, why is he not the Captain in Chelsea or England?
 
                           People who see base judgement on overall ratings, not picking a point and ignoring lot of others.

                           Gerrard still wears England Armband because he has more reliable records.

                           Pleease, try not to take dry gin b4 posting ur comments.

                           I believe without chelsea dry gin, u will be more objective.

@ Sauron,

Thank you.

This Molue drivers that supports chelsea are most times novice.

You have done justice.

Ibime will either be, a bus driver, a conductor, okada rider, or a rogedo.

This groups are the popular chelsea fan. They always argue blindly.

Pls what is Gerrards best position on the field.

@ Olaolufred, Gerrard does not captain England terry does

Gerrard is a spectacular player and very eyecatching. lampard does his job on the field.

Though I like Gerrard

dayokanu:

please what is Gerrards best position on the field.

Gerrard's best position is where Lampard plays. . . .
England win more games WITHOUT Lampard playing football AT ALL.
Matter of fact, i would rather have Carrick and Hargreaves than Gerrard and Lampard. . . .

Hehehehe. . . . . what are all these statistics?. . . . . . last time I checked, Lampard usually misses the games like Andorra, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Estonia etc. . . . . Gerrard has been playing for england since 2000 when England were more prolific. . . . are we going to compare the Nicky Barmby, Steve Mcmanaman era to the recent era?. . . . . if we are going to be objective, let's look at the record since 2004 and the individual games played. . . . . when it comes to goals and assists, there is no competition. . . . . Gerrards goal record for England is littered with names like Andorra and Estonia. . . .

OlaOluFred, since when does being Captain have to do with anything? Is Lionel Messi captain of Barca or Argentina? Mascherano must be better than Messi since he is captain and Messi is not? Captain is based on personality, not footballing skills. What an asinine comparison.

Gerrard is suddenly bigger than Lamps because he scored in Champions league final and Jerzy Dudek saved Liverpool? Last time I checked, Lamps also scored in CL final but Terry and Anelka did not save him.

All the points I made in my previous post dissecting Lamps and Gerrards games still stand. When it comes to playing in tight spaces, goals scored, assists, positional discipline, ground covered, Lamps trumps Gerrard. Those statistics do not lie. Even before Abramovic bought Chelsea, Lamps scored 18 goals or thereabouts in 02/03 season. Mr consistent, year in, year out. The statistics do not lie. Forget the media hype. English press tend to get carried away. The first time I heard this Gerrard nonsense was in 2000, when Liverpool press were claiming that Gerrard was better than Vieira. I couldn't help but laugh. English press have gone from hailing Alan Shearer as the greatest striker in Europe, to claiming that Beckham is a great player, to comparing Rooney to Pele to lauding Gerrard as the greatest all round midfielder in the world. More often than not, their hype falls flat in the face of reality. English press knows nothing about football. They are still stuck in 1970's and 1980's mentality, when they were excluded from European football. If you want some objective opinions, read The Times. They know the score on the Lamps and Gerrard debate.

Ibime:

Hehehehe. . . . . what are all these statistics?. . . . . . last time I checked, Lampard usually misses the games like Andorra, Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Estonia etc. . . . . Gerrard has been playing for england since 2000 when England were more prolific. . . . are we going to compare the Nicky Barmby, Steve Mcmanaman era to the recent era?. . . . . if we are going to be objective, let's look at the record since 2004 and the individual games played. . . . . when it comes to goals and assists, there is no competition. . . . . Gerrards goal record for England is littered with names like Andorra and Estonia. . . .

Lampard also scored against small teams. Iceland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Jamaica and Austria are not better than Andorra and T & T.
Are u aware Frank copped his first cap for England in 1999 while Gerrard earned his in 2000??
Lampard played with Jamie Redknapp, Barmby and Steve Mcmanaman as well so your line of argument is not clear to me.

When lamps and Gerrard are on the field, Gerrard is always made to play elsewhere.

English players are always overhyped.

Gerrard vs Lampard bring all the characteristics and lets compare who is the better player.

Passes, Dribbles, Shot accuracy, Goals scored etc

dayokanu:

When lamps and Gerrard are on the field, Gerrard is always made to play elsewhere.

English players are always overhyped.

Gerrard vs Lampard bring all the characteristics and lets compare who is the better player.

Passes, Dribbles, Shot accuracy, Goals scored etc

Gerrard is made to play elsewhere to ACCOMODATE Lampard!!!
Playing for Chelsea is the best thing that happened to Lampard because managers would readily field players in the BIG 4 teams.
Lampard is ordinary. . . .no visible skills other than poking shots and hoping for deflection.
Gerrard is the better player.

Dayo, if u are the manager of a club and you are asked to buy one between Lampard n Gerrard. . . . .Who would u buy?

~Sauron~:

Gerrard is made to play elsewhere to ACCOMODATE Lampard!!!

There is no such thing as accomodation. Gerrard has been playing other positions to accomodate himself because he cannot steal that position from Lamps. He has tried for the last 5 years with no success. Lamps is mono-positional, but he is the best player in that position. The whole country has been anti-Lampard for the last 2 years. It would be a popular decision for any manager to drop Lamps and play Gerrard in his "favourite" position. When Lamps was injured last year, Gerrard had a chance to claim that position but was outclassed by the likes of Semshov and Kovac etc. This supposition that you play Gerrard in his favourite position and everything will be alright is false. The problem with England is exactly players like Gerrard who lose possession too easily in compact midfields. You will never see Gerrard shine when the midfield is condensed. He only shines when he has space to make his surging runs. The long-ball game is exactly Englands problem and Gerrard is one of the major culprits.

Not to mention that Gerrard has Sokugo's disease and is prone to vacate his position whenever he feels like. This is why every England and Liverpool manager arranges his team to account for Gerrard's wandering. They always look for a free role for him. Even when he plays on the left, you find that Capello allows him to wander in and details Barry to keep an eye on the left. When he played right midfield and had his most successfull season for Liverpool with 23 goals (seven against TNS, 10 in CL qualifiers), Sissoko was detailed to plug the gaps on the right whenever he went wandering. Now, he has a virtual free role playing behind Torres. He is not a disciplined CM.

~Sauron~:

Lampard is ordinary. . . .no visible skills other than poking shots and hoping for deflection.

Same nonsense populist line. Most of Lampard's goals come from his brilliant off-the-ball running which is unmatched anywhere in Europe. And it is not off the ball running, as in vacating his position like Gerrard. He runs methodically, keeping up with his teammates.

~Sauron~:

Are u aware Frank copped his first cap for England in 1999 while Gerrard earned his in 2000??

Lampard won his first cap in 1999, but he hardly ever played till 2003. He had a handful of appearances, mostly off the substitues bench. Telling me that Lamps was there before Gerrard is like telling me that Matthew upson was there before Terry. It doesn't make sense. Upson made his debut before Terry but Terry has been playing for England since 03/04.

dayokanu:

Gerrard vs Lampard bring all the characteristics and lets compare who is the better player.

Passes, Dribbles, Shot accuracy, Goals scored etc

We can tick off the list and you will see that apart from pace, longe range shot and slide tackle, Gerrard has nothing over Lamps. Even the slide tackling is only because he is caught out of position too often. Lamps tends to nick balls off the feet of opponents instead of slide tackling. this is down to his superior positioning.

When you consider the core things that make a CM such as passing, positioning, assists, work rate, goals scored, off the ball, intelligence, pressing as part of a team, Lamps trumps Gerrard.

All you can say about Gerrard is that he is more eyecatching. MOTD tends to edit their videos to highlight everything he does. I have watched matches on SKY SPORTS live where Gerrard is anonymous. . . . yet when it comes to the highlights reels on MOTD, all they show is edited versions of Gerrard making slide tackles, running with the ball etc. Every good thing Gerrard does is highlighted. Every bad thing is dismissed. I still remember the game against France in Euro 2004 when he gave a short back pass to David James and James had to concede a penalty. Can you believe they blamed David James instead of Gerrard? It is a cardinal sin to criticise Gerrard in English press. Any journalist that does it could risk losing his job. . This kind of mass hysteria is laughable. Who can blame the english though? They always need a hero. Whether it is Gazza or Bobby Robson, they look for a hero in certain players, making them out to be ten times better than they actually are.


The youtube link below just shows the misleading power of the media when it comes to Gerrard:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHggzKlAi4

Ibime:

There is no such thing as accomodation. Gerrard has been playing other positions to accomodate himself because he cannot steal that position from Lamps. he has tried for the last 5 years with no success. Lamps is mono-positional, but he is the best player in that position. The whole country has been anti-Lampard for the last 2 years. It would be a popular decision for any manager to drop Lamps and play Gerrard in his "favourite" position. When Lamps was injured last year, Gerrard had a chance to claim that position but was outclassed by the likes of Semshov and Kovac etc. This supposition that you play Gerrard in his favourite position and everything will be alright is false. The problem with England is exactly players like Gerrard who lose possession too easily in compact midfields. You will never see Gerrard shine when the midfield is condensed. He only shines when he has space to make his surging runs. The long-ball game is exactly Englands problem and Gerrard is one of the major culprits. Not to mention that Gerrard has Sokugo's disease and is prone to vacate his position whenever he feels like. This is why every England and Liverpool manager arranges his team to account for Gerrard's wandering. They always look for a free role for him, even when he plays on the left, you find that Capello allows him to wander in and details Barry to keep an eye on the left. When he played right midfield and had his most successfull season for Liverpool with 23 goals (seven against TNS, 10 in CL qualifiers), Sissoko was detailed to plug the gaps on the right whenever he went wandering. now, he has a virtual free role playing behind Torres. He is not a disciplined CM.

England were outclassed against Croatia because many players were out. . . . .I cannot see Croatia beating England in Wembley with Terry, Ashley Cole, Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville all playing. England lost because they had a slowpoke of a manager coupled with the fact that their back four were missing.
Lampard is a decent player without a shadow of doubt but he is few notches below Gerrard technically and tactically.
The spirit Gerrard showed against AC Milan in Istanbul can never be replicated by a player like Lampard. John Terry, Yes but Lampard, NEVER.

Same nonsense populist line. Most of Lampard's goals come from his brilliant off-the-ball running which is unmatched anywhere in Europe. And it is not off the ball running, as in vacating his position like Gerrard. He runs methodically, keeping up with his teammates.

Most of Lampard's goals for club are deflected shots and taking penalties. . . . .What else can he do?
Aerially, he is useless. Lampard cannot dribble but he is a good passer of the ball but isn't Gerrard better in this department too.
Gerrard has rocket shots, can dribble and will outrun Lampard. . . . . .he is also an utility player unlike Lampard.

We can tick off the list and you will see that apart from pace, longe range shot and slide tackle, Gerrard has nothing over Lamps. Even the slide tackling is only because he is caught out of position too often. Lamps tends to nick balls off the feet of opponents instead of slide tackling. this is down to his superior positioning.

Gerrard has the English spirit of never say die. . . . .He single-handedly won UCL for Liverpool in 2005.
Lampard is not the force that makes Chelsea tick, John Terry is.
Superior positioning and he was rendered useless by Scholes/Carrick in Moscow??
I would rather have Gerrard in ma team than Lampard.

The youtube link should be disregarded. . . . . . .every good player musta had a bad game at one point in their career or the other.

~Sauron~:

England were outclassed against Croatia because many players were out. . . .

England lost against Russia and Croatia because they were dominated in midfield and lost possession too easily.

~Sauron~:

The spirit Gerrard showed against AC Milan in Istanbul can never be replicated by a player like Lampard. John Terry, Yes but Lampard, NEVER.

What nonsense! Didi Hamman pulled Liverpool back into the game. Gerrard scored a goal just like Smicer and the other guy (I forget). English media made it into a Roy-of-the-Rovers story. Lampard would never need to show such spirit because Chelsea will dominate the midfield such that they lead from the front, not have to come back from 3-0 down. Last time I checked, Lamps also pulled his team back into a CL final.

Gerrard is still living off CL '05 and FA Cup '06.

FYI, Lamps would never had needed last gasp goals against West Ham. He would have played them off the park, giving Chelsea a 3-0 win minimum.

~Sauron~:

(1.) Most of Lampard's goals for club are deflected shots and taking penalties. . . . .What else can he do?

(2.) Aerially, he is useless. Lampard cannot dribble but he is a good passer of the ball but isn't Gerrard better in this department too.

(3.) Gerrard has rocket shots, can dribble and will outrun Lampard. . . . . .he is also an utility player unlike Lampard,

(1.) Gerrard also takes penalties. Lamps scores no more than 3 or 4 penalties a season. If Lamps goals are deflected shots, then I would advise him to play the lottery because he must be a very lucky mothaphocka.

(2.) Since when do we judge midfielders by aerial prowess. Zola is also useless aerially, so what. This is English criteria for judging footballers. In Naija, we play monkey post with the ball on the ground, not in the air. And by the way, Lamps has already scored two headers this season. Lamps is way better at passing than Gerrard. You know this yourself, unless you are talking about long balls, which doesn't count to any seasoned football fan.

(3.)  If Gerrard can dribble, then I must be a monk. Gerrard makes surging runs, he cannot dribble. Fabregas and Iniesta can dribble, not Gerrard.

Mark off the whole list, when it comes to the fundamentals of midfield play, Lamps is better than Gerrard. The 4 most important parts of midfield play are ball retention, passing, positioning and pressing. Assists, goals, off the ball, workrate. . . . . you name it. . . . Lamps is above Gerrard by any statistical or observatory measure.

~Sauron~:

Superior positioning and he was rendered useless by Scholes/Carrick in Moscow??

If anything, it was Chelsea's midfield that kept them in the game. Scholes dominated the first 30 minutes, after that, Lamps and Ballack ran the show. Chelsea's only hope was to squeeze the possession in the centre of midfield as Man Utd were much superior on the wings and Lampard and Ballack certainly dominated that central midfield throughout the 2nd half and extra time. They had no options to pass to on the wings because Joe Cole was too preoccupied with doubling up on Ronaldo. Infact, they did a perfect job in midfield. Gerrard can only hope to keep the ball as well as they did in that CL final. He does not have the skill to.

@ Ibime,

The quality of their respective teams is different.
Comparing their stats at club level is unfair. . . . . .Gerrard is the heart and soul of Liverpool.
Lampard is not even the best midfielder in Chelsea when u have Essien, Makelele and Ballack(see the difference??).
Put Gerrard in Lampard's place in Chelsea and they would be unbeatable. . . .
Mourinho had Lampard when he wanted Gerrard by hook or crook. . . . .Had Gerrard agreed on a Chelsea move, Lampard woulda retired since.

~Sauron~:

Mourinho had Lampard when he wanted Gerrard by hook or crook. . . . .Had Gerrard agreed on a Chelsea move, Lampard woulda retired since.

Abramovic wanted Gerrard, not Mourinho. All Mourinho said is "if him come, him come. I will have to work him."

Seriously though, Gerrard is way overrated whilst Lamps is very underrated. The same year Gerrard won the CL, Lamps came second in World Player of the year. Fans of Bayern Munich and such can testify to the destruction that Lampard wrought throughout the CL that year. His award was in recognition of the fact that he had a very good Champions League, even better than Gerrard who won it. This year, he was voted European midfielder of the year. Yet, the English hate him with a passion because they are misguided into a belief that he is holding Gerrard back from fulfilling his 'potential' in England's central midfield.  .  A prophet is not honoured in his own country. They did the same to Glen Hoddle. They tend to persecute players because of media bias. For years, they also booed Owen Hargreaves.

Because of idiots like Gerrard, qualified players like Scholes had to retire from England team after being pushed out to the left wing.   

~Sauron~:

Put Gerrard in Lampard's place in Chelsea and they would be unbeatable. . . .

Gerrard would not fit in with Chelsea's passing game. He cannot keep up with Mikel and Deco's passing unlike Lampard. He will be out of his depth, just like Abidal is out of his depth when Barcelona start to pass the ball.