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Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Horus(m): 10:19pm On Jun 11, 2007
The third characteristic of vampirism is one of contagion. Whosoever Dracula bites eventually becomes a vampire, one of the Un-Dead. For all that die from the preying of the Un-Dead become themselves Un-Dead, and they prey on their kind. Historically, whatever people that have been biten by the White man's fangs have begun to prey upon themselves or their people. This is why Viet Namese fought Viet Namese; why Koreans fought Koreans; why Mangosuthu Buthelezi of Inkatha fought Nelson Mandela of the African National Congress;why Telly B fight African on Nairaland. One of them had been biten by Dracula and the virus of white supremacy had entered into their blood, causing them to seek Western style dress, demoncracy, and western cultural values. Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Ward Connelly, Dr. Condoleezza Rice and many others have all been biten. Research and associate The Boule with white supremacy.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by mrpataki(m): 3:27am On Jun 12, 2007
Horus:

The third characteristic of vampirism is one of contagion. Whosoever Dracula bites eventually becomes a vampire, one of the Un-Dead. For all that die from the preying of the Un-Dead become themselves Un-Dead, and they prey on their kind. Historically, whatever people that have been biten by the White man's fangs have begun to prey upon themselves or their people. This is why Viet Namese fought Viet Namese; why Koreans fought Koreans; why Mangosuthu Buthelezi of Inkatha fought Nelson Mandela of the African National Congress;why Telly B fight African on Nairaland. One of them had been biten by Dracula and the virus of white supremacy had entered into their blood, causing them to seek Western style dress, demoncracy, and western cultural values. Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Ward Connelly, Dr. Condoleezza Rice and many others have all been biten. Research and associate The Boule with white supremacy.

grin grin grin grin grin
What a mis-informed very rich delusional posts I read here cheesy
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by thesilent1(m): 2:42pm On Jun 12, 2007
why Telly B fight African on Nairaland. One of them had been biten by Dracula and the virus of white supremacy had entered into their blood, causing them to seek Western style dress, demoncracy, and western cultural values. Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Ward Connelly, Dr. Condoleezza Rice and many others have all been biten. Research and associate The Boule with white supremacy.

telly b,

i hope you know that you can not buy this kind of free publicity!!!
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Horus(m): 6:59pm On Jun 12, 2007



The Flugelrods (illustration) were the original Nordics before they crossbred with different races to acquire the appearance they possess presently. They are the originators of the Nordic race and live in a cavern beneath the Antarctic. Their chief is named Korg, the original Halaabites, meaning “to blush,” or Hulub. Flugelrods became known as the Neanderthals, or simply cave men, eating raw flesh, running around on fours, and living in a state of bestiality. They found their way into the inner caverns of the planet. Many of them took residence there while others in time used the trickknology and terrorized other innocent tribes. This seed moved behind the Caucasus Mountains and up into Russia and became known as the Khazars.
And, wool haired seven ether, orientalist of this seed called Asiatic were known as the Sefarad or Sefaradim Jew. These are the grafted devils that Yaaquub created. They are your Flugelrods, original Khazars, and your Asiatic, Ashkhenazims. Their symbol being the universe, the moon called Ummar, the sun called Qamar, and the bright morning star, they (also) use the crescent moon and the pentagram that is the 5-pointed star.
This pale man, or Halaabean, Flugelrod should not be confused with the albino seed,the cursed Canaanites, meaning “low landers,” the descendants of Canaan, of 4,000 years ago before 2,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. The Caucasians who have blonde hair and blue eyes, are descendants from the Flugelrods. . . . Canaanites’ leprosy is the result of a curse of defected genes passed down to him from his mother Anis who was an Anaqite (Deuteronomy 9). Remember the Flugelrods and Canaanites produce extremely low levels of melanin, both are melanin recessive beings.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 12:41pm On Jun 13, 2007
The reason we find this subject hard to fathom is the fact that religion has taught and given us a one god concept where we are lead to believe (accept things without questions).

Genesis 11 : 5 "And the LORD came down to see the city " Here the bible is telling us that God came down. So anything that enter this earth's atmoshpere from outer space is an alien.

Who was God talking to in Genesis 11 : 7 "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, , "

When you say Vampire you are saying Victory to the empire. Which is referring to the ancient Greek and Roman empire which still live on today through their cousins the Britsh and American empire. We have things like easter which goes back to an ancient rome satanic worship, we have santa claus (Satan claws), We worship the Greek deities Zeus (Ahzeus in Latin) disguished as Jesus (derived from Jah- Zeus). We have Christmas which is a festival known as Saturnalia.

Vampires suck people's blood the way the caucasian race has sucked the blood of the black race with religion and economics (E-Con-O-Me).

Vampires survive off other people the way the european (caucasians) stock market survives off the resources of africa while africans who own these resources are dying from ignorance (believe), aids and poverty.


If God came from above then he must be an alien. Do some research on the Annunaaki (those who Anu sent from heaven (orion) to earth Ta). There is physical evidence to confirm the existance of the Annunaki's. Which pre-date the bible stories by thousand of years. Anu had two son Enqi and Enlil who later became (Isreal and Ismael).

In addition, Atum-Re the Ancient Kemet Deity (also known as Tamare falsely called Egypt by the Greeks) was also known as Annu-Re.

The ancient tamareans recorded everything and they say they came from the constallation orion. And when you look at the bible in Greek the word for heaven is Oranus which translates to English as Orion in the New testament. In Hebrew the word for Orion is Kesiyl Job 9 : 9, In yoruba it is Orun

Job 9 : 9
"Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south"
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Horus(m): 12:56pm On Jun 13, 2007
@Kuns
Nice post  Kuns !!!
Welcome to the forum!!!
We need your help here because African have to know about The ancient tamareans.
Keep posting Kuns !!!
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by thesilent1(m): 1:18pm On Jun 13, 2007
what i do not understand is that these are claims of some greater power or at least greater stories of the begining of man but they ALL seem to have a clear DI-VISION between black and white.

i as a normal and average human being with average mental abilities seem to ALWAYS come to the conclusion that this ideaology can NOT be fair, even, intergrateable, etc to say the least!

based on these stories, you want me to believe that simply based on pigmentation, mellanine i am "better" or "superior" to another fellow human being and i just can NOT accept that. the main reason i can not accept that is that there seems to be no "solution" to the "white" issue. except if your idea of a solution is to eradicate all the whites leaving only coloured people in the world?!?!? infact, do not answer that.

if you had come with the view of salvation / solution being there for EVERYone, i might have even humoured you, but this is just too shallow, racist, unloving, and not unity-based. even if i had never heard the gospel of christ, i STILL would not have seen this as an option whats so ever.

When you say Vampire you are saying Victory to the empire. Which is referring to the ancient Greek and Roman empire which still live on today through their cousins the Britsh and American empire. We have things like easter which goes back to an ancient rome satanic worship, we have santa claus (Satan claws), We worship the Greek deities Zeus (Ahzeus in Latin) disguished as Jesus (derived from Jah- Zeus). We have Christmas which is a festival known as Saturnalia.

you see things like this just make me laugh. i am the biggest sci-fi geek and horror film guru there is on this planet (self acclaimed of course! LOL) and this is just ridiculous. if you had at least got the stories of the "legend" right, i would have even listened but you have not even got that right. you have rightly said that some "traditions" have pagan origins but no one is arguing with you there. however to feed me this hog-wash on such a nice day just can not be accepted.



sowwy!


great, now horus has got backing vocals


PS - it defeats the object when you claim the bible is all fake yet quote it to support your "tales by moonlight"
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by moondust(m): 1:56pm On Jun 13, 2007
sure they exist, just like Dragons and Unicorns and Ogres and trolls and Goblins and gnomes and Aki na Paw Paw,  and, and  wink
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kemjisuper(m): 2:18pm On Jun 13, 2007
They don't exist. Cos if they did, and ventured to visit Naija, I bet they won't return the same way. (They would have been duped!)

Cheers
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 3:57pm On Jun 13, 2007
Definitions of Alien on the Web:

foreigner: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country

stranger: anyone who does not belong in the environment in which they are found

transfer property or ownership; "The will aliened the property to the heirs"
not contained in or deriving from the essential nature of something; "an economic theory alien to the spirit of capitalism"; "the mysticism so foreign to the French mind and temper"; "jealousy is foreign to her nature"

being or from or characteristic of another place or part of the world; "alien customs"; "exotic plants in a greenhouse"; "exotic cuisine"

extraterrestrial being: a form of life assumed to exist outside the Earth or its atmosphere "Genesis 11 : 7"

estrange: arouse hostility or indifference in where there had formerly been love, affection, or friendliness; "She alienated her friends when she became fanatically religious"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

In law, an alien is a person who is not a citizen of the land where he or she is found. If an alien resides in the country, as opposed to being just a visitor, he or she may be called a "resident alien". The term illegal alien describes foreign nationals who have entered the country illegally.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(law)

Alien is the fourth album by Canadian heavy metal band Strapping Young Lad. It was released on March 22, 2005.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(album)

Alien (1979), directed by Ridley Scott, is an extremely popular and influential science fiction/horror film that spawned several sequels and imitators. Although the title characters are the highly aggressive extraterrestrial creatures, the real connecting thread is the saga of Ellen Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver, a human woman who finds herself the principal opponent of the species throughout the series. ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(film)

In biology the adjective alien, as in alien species, means that the normal locale is somewhere else, that a species or specimen exceptionally has been established in the area in question. Words with similar meaning in biology include exotic, adventive, introduced, and naturalized. These terms contrast with terms as indigenous and endemic. ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(biology)

Alien is a computer program that converts between different Linux package distribution file formats. It supports conversion between Linux Standard Base, RPM, deb, Stampede (.slp) and Slackware (tgz) packages.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(computing)

Any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
www.immigrationonline.com/glossary/glossary.asp

movie series
www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Aliens-(1986-movie)

Any person who is not a citizen of the country in which they live.
www.bookkeeperlist.com/definitionsa.shtml

individual who is not a US citizen or US national.
www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=129236,00.html

A person who was not a British subject or a Canadian citizen.
www.genealogy.gc.ca/10/100801_e.html

There are two kinds of troublesome plant species in natural areas. Members of the first group are called aliens or exotics. These are plants that are not native to the flora of the region in which they are found. Often, these plants were introduced from Europe or Asia accidentally, or for horticultural or other purposes. Members of the second group are called opportunists. ,
sain.nbii.gov/invasives/inv_plant_pest_def.shtml

Synonymous with "exotic," a species that is not native to the continental United States.
aquat1.ifas.ufl.edu/mcdef.html

A citizen from another country. In New Zealand term 'alien' refers to those immigrants not of British ancestry as British residents were automatically given citizenship to New Zealand.
library.christchurch.org.nz/FamilyHistory/Glossary/

an introduced organism that has become naturalized
gmbis.marinebiodiversity.ca/BayOfFundy/glossMA.html

someone who is not a citizen of one's own country
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randyj2222/gendict.html

A citizen of a foreign country living in a host country.
www.caltia.com/education/terms.html

Same as non-native
home.sandiego.edu/~tmcglynn/exotic/glossary.htm

A foreign-born resident who is not a naturalised citizen.
www.connections-exhibition.org/index.php

A foreign national who is not a citizen of the United States. This includes lawful permanent residents (green card holders), temporary visa holders, and undocumented foreign nationals.
www.greencardlawyers.com/answers_for/ImmigrationGlossary.html

a foreigner, or person born in another country, and therefore not entitled to the rights and privileges of the country where he resides. Among the Hebrews there were two classes of aliens.
www.godweb.org/blT0000100.htm

a species that has been introduced into an area beyond its native range. Invasions can result in losses of native species, changes in community structure and function, and alterations of the physical structure of the system.
www.bio.txstate.edu:16080/~wetlands/Glossary/glossary.html

a noncitizen living in the United States
www.indianahistory.org/programming/immigration/GLOSSARY/

a citizen of another country.
www.introductiontogenealogy.co.uk/genealogy-glossary-a.htm

species not naturally found in an area (introduced from elsewhere, generally with the help of humans, in recent history)
fred.csir.co.za/plants/global/glossary.htm

Foreign-born individual who is not a citizen of the country in which he/she resides. Aliens in the United States have the full legal protection and rights as citizens.
www.peakagents.ca/glossary/a5.htm

A person residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without being a citizen of that non-native country.
hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/waymac/Sociology/A%20Term%202/Simulation%20on%20Governments/glossary_of_american_terms.htm

was released March 22 2005, to a mixture of reviews, mostly favouring the progressive element Devin Townsend continues to bring to extreme metal.
www.voyager.in/Strapping_Young_Lad
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by bigbaby(f): 10:09am On Jun 14, 2007
i don't bout aliens but i believe in vampire and think they exist
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 6:59pm On Jun 14, 2007
C'mon bigbaby

Hey, which part of the definitions on Alien did you not comprehend.

Why are you all acting so lame, why are the intellectuals amongs you.

Where have become so accustomed to watching cartoons and make- believe movies,
That we have become oblivious to the existence of this phenomena,
Blinded to the reality of these things,

There is so much information of the web concerning involvement with extraterrestrial being since 1945,

The movies, film (Hollywood: which is in reality the name of the magic wand of Merlin the magician) as well as the countless child-hood cartoons,
Has hypnotised you and make you semi-conscious to the true of existance.

Re-legion has help to put you in a state of sleep, a state where we be[b][/b]lie[b][/b]ve everything
And know nothing.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 7:20pm On Jun 14, 2007
theslientone1,

Religion has led most to be[b][/b]lie[b][/b]ve that we are all the same. Which means that our realities are also all the same. However, nothing could be further from the true. There are three main races from which all people evolved these three are as follows the Negroid, Mongoloid and the Caucasians. Now genetically speaking the three differ to a great extent.

As the brother Horus as clearly pointed out some beings on the planet are Melanin recessive while other are Melanin positive. Caucasians is basically every race that evolved from the east Indian (Hindus the fathers of the Asian race) and they have FURS similar to what animals have.

The only race that as hair is the negroid race, all other races and animals have FURS.

This Mr thesilent1 should inform you that the negroid is different, we are the deities (GODS of this Earth incanate).

Our ancestor were those that gave every other race civilisation,

Now you go do some re-search (search again).

And you have to look beyond the bible that was written by the caucasians for the caucasians to blind Negroid the descendants of deities.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Horus(m): 7:22pm On Jun 14, 2007


Claims were made by a science writer that Mars had ruins of an entire Martian city full of pyramids, which are geometrically aligned with the face of the larger 5 sided pyramid. The face has deep set eyes, cross lines in the head and from the mouth structure there is a suggestion of teeth. Like I mentioned previously, the ANUNNAQI set up what you would know as the first Egyptian civilization on Mars, which is what was later set up here on the planet Earth. Yes! put this in your mind; the Egyptian civilization existed (on Mars) long before it was set up on the planet Earth!
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 7:42pm On Jun 14, 2007
Mr thesilent1,

No one is destroying the bible we are only in interested in some facts that can be checked up (verified) with other sources of information. Be it the Bible, the Qua'ran or the Torah we can use these to show sound logic, sound reasoning based on evidence that is apparent.

Also the other reason from using Bible quotes is to reach our people who would no listen to anything else.

If you were a christian and I came to you with the Qua'ran , you would put up your fence and shut down mentally.

Christianity and Islam are the religion our people have mostly been con-verted to by the caucasian race.


Ok, Mr silently , if race is not important why did God tell Isaac to tell his son Jacob not to marry a Cannanite (caucasian) woman?

Genesis 28 : 1
"1: And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan."

Is God racist? , maybe you think God is ridiculous, eh?

Or maybe you think this part of the bible is hogwash, hmm?

What about Genesis 24 : 3
"3: And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:"

Why did the Most high make Abramham swear not to marry from the caucasian. Are you saying this is not relevant? Eh,

Mr silent1,

talk to me.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by bigbaby(f): 10:08am On Jun 15, 2007
i am sorry people, i don't knw y i believe in them.tell u wat all my course works in English is base on vampires, my sisters are scared 2 come into my room at night time bcoz of the pics i have as wall paper.my mum is tired of talking. she organized a therapy class for me
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 12:44pm On Jun 15, 2007
Vampires are a fact of life bibbaby as I described earlier. Believe is not knowing.
What did your dictionary say about vampires,

oh I sorry if you do have a dictionary.

Here are some facts on vampires ,

Definitions of vampire on the Web:

(folklore) a corpse that rises at night to drink the blood of the living
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

A vampire is a mythical or folkloric creature said to subsist on human and/or animal blood often having magical powers and the ability to transform. Usually the vampire is the corpse of a dead person, reanimated or made undead by one means or another. Some cultures have myths of non-human vampires, such as demons or animals like bats, dogs, and spiders. ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire

Vampires in the Marvel Universe were created roughly 15,000 years ago when a small band of sorcerers from the legendary city of Atlantis discovered a book known as the Darkhold, an indestructible text filled with arcane lore and dark magic written countless millennia earlier by the primevil demon Chthon. ,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_(Marvel_Comics)

A word of Slavonic origin, a vampire is a preternatural being of a malignant nature (or a reanimated corpse) who seeks nourishment and often bodily harm by sucking the blood of the living. Usually but not always described as highly sexual beings, vampires are often but not exclusively found in European folklore. ,
www.georgiasouthern.edu/~dougt/goth.html

A supernatural creature (undead) that can only come out at night and lives by drinking the blood of the living. There are psychic vampires as well.
www.wrexhamparaskeptics.4t.com/definitions.htm

A reanimated corpse that is believed to rise from the grave at night to suck the blood of sleeping people.
www.clubalien.com/definitions.shtml


The formular in which the africa was partitioned in 1884 was a form of vampirism and to this day they are still sucking the blood (resources) of the mother land , despite the fact that 70% of the world natural resources comes from Africa you will never find any African currency on any world financial market. This is vampirism on an e-con-o-me (economic) scale.

It's not only the natural resource but also the human resources (skilled professionals who now strive to better affairs of the colonial master) that are being zapped to work for their former slave/colonial masters, while neglecting to work for their mother land.

Vampirism of the pale man, the albino race , is subtle. You will need more than believe to saa it , you will need facts.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by bigbaby(f): 2:28pm On Jun 15, 2007
yawn grin i knw but i can't help it
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 4:24pm On Jun 15, 2007
Heyyy bigbabe,

If you don't stop acting like a little brat I'm going to have to come down there and give you a spanking like a red-neck step daughter.


Etymology of Alien

The name Annu or Anu is the Cuneiform, also the Akkadian and Babylonian name for the heavenly father who to the ancient Egyptians, was a physical being with wives and children, and whose other name was An or En. The Arabs call him “El Ali” the 36th attribute, meaning “the Most High.” However, when you put these two words together “Ali + En” you get “alien.”

Source: El Katub Shil El Mawut (The Book of the Dead), Coming Forth By Day
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by ajadrage: 5:29pm On Jun 17, 2007
Just one simple arithmetic fact, if all the vampires that had ever existed since around the early 10th century must feed, think of all the people they must have fed on and these bitten people go still turn vampire and them go stll feed oh. aif for example, only one vampire existed in the 10th century, they would have to feed consistently for 365 days, at least 365 people will become vampires from just one person in a year.

These new vampires go indoctrinate the same number of people and they keep increasing geometrically. If it is true that they are immortal, then by this time everybody suppose don turn vampire na
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Kuns: 2:19pm On Jun 18, 2007
People are turning into vampires daily, all you have to do is mix your blood , with the race of beings that cannot stand the sun-light (like dracula could not stand the sun) then as your offspring get paler and paler they will inherit this vampires traits (where they devour semi-cooked flesh, grow wolf like incissors, use sun-block factor 15 during spring, summer and autumn to protect from the rays of the sun which vampires hate and cannot stand).

There are psychic vampires as well.
www.wrexhamparaskeptics.4t.com/definitions.htm
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 03, 2007
shocked
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by chistiana(f): 4:51pm On Oct 05, 2007
They say the Devil's greatest trick was convincing man he doesn't exist, I say his greatest trick was convincing man that God exists."

Pledge

do unto others what others as done to u

Vampires exist. believe it or u leave it end of discussion.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by ow11(m): 12:01pm On Oct 06, 2007
chistiana:

They say the Devil's greatest trick was convincing man he doesn't exist, I say his greatest trick was convincing man that God exists."

Pledge

do unto others what others as done to u

Vampires exist. believe it or u leave it end of discussion.

yes they exist in the same dimension as santa claus! and flame spitting dragons
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by chistiana(f): 6:44pm On Oct 07, 2007
who says?

if truely they don't exist i guess devil himself doesnt exist.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Backslider(m): 9:04pm On Oct 07, 2007
This are Demons Masking as Aliens.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Nobody: 8:01am On Nov 09, 2007
Aliens really exists grin
If you are a kid ,don't read this so as not to pee in your shorts grin


On the evening of 20th January, 1988, Sean Knowles was driving his mother, Faye, brothers Patrick and Wayne and the families two pet dogs across Australia's Nullarbor Plain to stay with family in Melbourne. While heading east of Perth to Mundrabilla along the Eyre Highway at about 1.30 a.m., the car's radio suddenly began to malfunction. At 1.45 a.m. Sean spotted what he presumed to be a truck with only one headlight working up ahead.

As it approached, however, he could see that there was a strange ball of light hovering above the truck, which was now driving erratically on the wrong side of the road. Realizing he was in danger of a collision, Sean quickly swerved narrowly missing the wayward truck.

Not long after, another car passed the Knowles', with what appeared to be the same bright light travelling above it. Perplexed, Sean turned the car around to follow the glowing object, but before long, the ball of light had doubled back again and was, this time, in pursuit of Sean's car. Everyone in the car was thrown into a state of panic as Faye and the children screamed at Sean to get out of there fast. Sean tried to turn the car once more, but it was to late, the object had already caught them up and landed with a thump on top of the car.

Bright beams of light filled the inside of the car. Patrick, who was sitting in the front passenger seat, felt as if his 'brains were being sucked out of his head'. The dogs were going crazy and everyone in the car thought they were going to die. What Sean thought initially was the movement of the car going forward at 200kmph, was in fact the car being drawn up into the air by the object. Faye, who was in the back seat, opened the window and actually touch the object. She felt something which was warm and spongy, like some sort of suction pad. Recoiling violently, she became hysterical and began to scream. When she pulled her hand back in, it was red, swollen and cold. Patrick, in the front seat, rolled his window down only to engulf the inside of the car with a black, ash-like substance and a smell which smelt like 'decomposing bodies'.

The family's voices became distorted, sounding as if they were talking in slow motion, and their hair stood on end. Then, suddenly, the car dropped back down to the ground, bursting one of the rear tyres. It was not until this point that Sean realised the car had been in the air. After regaining control of the vehicle, Sean managed to stop the car, enabling the family to exit the car and run for cover in some nearby bushes.

They watched petrified as the object, which resembled 'an egg in a cup' hovered above them. Emitting an electrical humming sound, the craft circled around in the sky above while beaming a searchlight down on to the ground, as if looking for them. Eventually, to their relief, the craft disappeared. For around 15 minutes afterwards, their voices remained distorted while they desperately tried to change the tyre. Then to their horror and surprise, the craft returned.

The family quickly jumped into the car and drove towards the Mundrabilla Roadhouse, some 40km away, as this was the closest inhabited building to them. In Sean's frantic attempt to get to the Roadhouse, they clipped a kangaroo on the way, badly denting the car, but this didn't stop them driving at a frantic pace until the service station was in sight. It was at this point that the craft disappeared out of site. On arrival at the Mundrabilla Roadhouse, the family, visibly shaken, reported their encounter to two truck drivers. An attendant at the station said 'I thought at first they were trying to be funny, they were excited and scared. When I got near to the car, I noticed an odour which smelt similar to hot insulation'. Faye's hand was still swollen and the dogs had began to lose clumps of hair.






A thorough investigation was carried out by the Victorian UFO Research Society (VUFORS). Samples of the dust which entered the car were sent to a NASA-related laboratory in California for analysis. The results showed that the dust was made up of oxygen, carbon, silicon, potassium and, more unusually, a trace of astatine, which is a radioactive chemical produced synthetically. Its half-life is only a few hours and so, in normal circumstances, even the smallest trace of this element would have long since deteriorated by the time the investigation was underway. However, when magnified 5,000 times, some of the particles exhibited signs of potential radiation, which would help to explain Faye's swollen hand
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by cgift(m): 11:05am On Nov 09, 2007
mdsocks, with this experience, (hope it is real anyway), it might be difficult to explain. Is there life out there in space?
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Nobody: 2:04pm On Nov 09, 2007
@cgift
I believe there is life in outer space, I will post links to other sites suggesting this with photos.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Nobody: 2:08pm On Nov 09, 2007
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Nobody: 4:35pm On Nov 09, 2007
A story of Alien Abduction in the 1950's

Pls read through, to get interesting things


Monday, November 05, 2007-[Pablo Villarubia is one of ufology's most indefatigable researchers, traveling to far-flung locations as he reinvestigates some of the classic mysteries of our time. His books include Brasil Insolito (1999) and Viaje Mágico por los Misterios de America (2003). Inexplicata readers will remember his re-examination of Brazil's Aracariguama case. It is with great pleasure that we present his latest investigative effort --Ed.] Fifty years later we are reopening the investigation into the first UFO abduction case in modern history: the legendary Antonio Villas Boas incident that took place in Minas Gerais, Brazil. Hitherto unpublished photographs and interviews shed startling revelations: U.S. agents kidnapped Villas Boas and a “portal” to strange phenomena appears to exist at the site of the abduction.

A veritable nightmare commenced on October 5, 1957 for a Brazilian farmer named Antonio Villas Boas, only 23 years old at the time. It only came to an end with his death in 1991 at age 52. One of the most important and discussed cases in world ufology took place within the isolated rural area of Sao Francisco de Salles, located deep inside the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais. It is considered the first abduction or kidnapping of a human being by alleged alien entities. On that distant date, Antonio and his brother Joao looked out of their bedroom window to see a circular light that cast its luminescence onto the ground, coming closer and then vanishing. On the 14th of that month, between 21:30 and 22:00 hours, while Antonio and another brother – Jose – tilled the soil with the family tractor, they were pursued by a round unidentified flying object that fired rays in every direction.

At 1:00 a.m. on October 16, Antonio Villas Boas worked alone on his tractor. A red light descended from the sky and turned into an oval-shaped, metallic object. The farmer was petrified. The object did not take long to land, setting its three legs squarely on the soil and lowering a seemingly metallic ladder. The terrified young man tried to flee in vain – his tractor’s engine died and four robust beings of normal height (one of them shorter than Antonio) emerged from the object and seized him, hoisting him into the air by his arms and legs, and took him into their spacecraft, where his clothing was forcibly removed. They subsequently bathed his body with a sponge soaked in a colorless liquid. Conveyed from one chamber to another, the entities – human-looking, but with their heads covered by strange helmets – drew blood with suction cups attached to equidistant spots on his chin, causing some irritation.

Alone in the chamber, Antonio perceived how some tubes jutting from the wall emitted a grayish gas that made him feel nauseous and on the verge of vomiting. Later on, the frightened farmer would receive another unexpected visit: this time from a nude, white-skinned female with slanted blue eyes, high cheekbones, thin lips, straight blond hair, broad hips and heavy thighs. And this was precisely the least likely part of the abduction experience: Antonio claimed to have entered a state of progressive, uncontrollable sexual excitement that he attributed to the liquid that had been rubbed onto his flesh. He made love twice to the unknown female.

Upon leaving, the young woman pointed at her abdomen and then toward the sky.

Antonio was subsequently ditched from the craft by the helmeted beings, but he first tried to secure some proof of his incredible experience: a box-shaped device with a glass lid, but the creatures kept him from doing so. The object took off vertically, issuing a whistling sound and increasing its brightness. Villas Boas spent approximately 4 hours and 15 aboard the craft. In 1961, after the Brazilian farmer’s experience, an American couple – Betty and Barney Hill – underwent an abduction experience supposedly involving aliens. The Villas Boas case, however, kicked off a discussion that has not lost its currency: the likelihood of genetic experiments performed by extraterrestrials upon human beings.

The story of Antonio Villas Boas (who remained anonymous until 1967) was made known to the world by journalist Joao Martins in the international edition (Spanish) of the prestigious Brazilian publication “O Cruzeiro”, which appeared in Buenos Aires eight years after the events, on December 1, 1964. Also involved in the investigation of this case was Dr. Olavo Fontes, a major name in Brazilian ufology, who subjected Villas Boas to a battery of physical and psychological tests after the event (February 22, 1958). The witness showed no signs of mental instability and had a series of physical alterations caused during the alleged alien encounter.

The Early Revelations

What seemed absurd to many – that is to say, the abduction by aliens and sexual relations with aliens – would later be transformed into a pattern of conduct experienced by nationals of various countries.

In the year 2000, this author renewed the investigation into this case after having located one of Antonio Villas Boas’s sons. I must admit that I was rather incredulous at some of the facts of the case, and it was necessary to secure more information. His extraordinary statements – which I was not allowed to disclose – stirred my curiosity further until years later, Claudio Tshuhioshi Suenaga, the distinguished Japanese-Brazilian historian and ufologist, put me on trail once more. He had interviewed Odercia Villas Boas, Antonio’s sister, over the phone. His revelations had been startling. I immediately took off for Brazil and from Sao Paulo, Claudio and I engaged in a marathon relay of several buses until we reached Sao Francisco de Salles (pop. 3,000), the scene of the astonishing events.

It was there that we found sexagenarian farmer Joao Francisco de Queiroz, Villas Boas’s nephew, whom Claudio had also contacted over the phone. Joao informed us that on the night of the Abduction, he – Joao Francisco – was sleeping inside a tractor cab a few hundred meters away from the site of the incident. “I was only 16 years old and was deep asleep. I heard nothing. It was only the next day that I learned of the incident. He told us, his relatives, that he had been taken aboard a device that landed some 50 meters away from the Grande River and that he had had sexual relations with a short, ugly woman.”

“Ugly?” Claudio and I repeated, exchanging glances, “but the published reports said that she was a beautiful woman, despite her strange appearance, ” “No, Antonio always said that she was very ugly, and that he did not know how he felt excited to the point of wanting to make love to her. After the event, Antonio went off to Rio de Janeiro, where a reporter and a doctor investigated his case. They took him off to the United States, forcibly, as though he had been detained, but he wasn’t mistreated. He told me that he didn’t like that trip at all, because he had gone against his will.”

“Did he give you any details about that trip?” I inquired, knowing that that information would confirm the involvement of the United States in UFO research and the controversial possession of extraterrestrial craft.

“Very little. Only that he had seen a device similar to the one that appeared here, but it wasn’t the same. Antonio was a reserved person who rarely discussed the subject. What I do know is that one day he locked himself up in the house and didn’t come out until he had finished carving the flying saucer from his experience on a piece of wood. He covered it in tin foil, the kind that used to come in cigarette cartons. Then he sent it off to Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro. I saw it, it was very pretty.”

“What was Sao Francisco de Salles like back then?” I asked, hoping to put the events into a context.

“It was a small, practically isolated place. I know that in 1947 there were only ten houses. But the Villas-Boas family and I lived at Hacienda Aldeia o Mata, some five kilometers from here, on the banks of the Grande. If you’d like, we can go up there in my car.”

Claudio and I didn’t think twice: we boarded the vehicle, excited at the prospect of being on-site at one of world ufology’s mythical locations. We stopped under an enormous, hundred year old fig tree and Joao Queiroz pointed to the spot where the flying saucer emerged in 1957. “It was more or less over there, where the Grande River now covers part of the hacienda. A dam was built in 1977, the Agua Vermelha, which invaded the property. The house we lived in doesn’t exist anymore. They knocked it down, it was a little further up.”

The loneliness of that location, the green fields, the leaves of some scattered trees, gave us a sense of trepidation. There was something strange about that place. It was perhaps that sensation or intuition that made me ask Joao: “Aside from what Antonio saw, did strange things take place here?”

“During the night, right there at Hacienda Aldeia o Mata, we would all listen in terror to the sound of a hand beating the handle of a large corn-grinding mortar inside a shack. When we went to check, there was no one around and the handle remained tied, suspended, and the mortar’s opening was covered by a large clay urn.” And there was more. Joao Queiroz also said that they could hear the sound of a galloping horse that couldn’t be seen, while the farm hands told stories of a “black-hooded phantom horseman.”

Another important detail is that Hacienda Lade o Mata’s very name bespoke the existence of an indigenous settlement. Queiroz himself, in his childhood, had found many pieces of ceramic, bones (perhaps from animals) and the circular indentations of where aboriginal shacks had once stood. Researchers had never mentioned this information. We subsequently learned that the region upon which the Villas Boas hacienda had once stood was occupied, until the 19th century, by the Kayapó indians. They were decimated by the diseases, persecutions and slayings visited upon them by the white man.

We returned to Queiroz’s house. His wife, Maria Olimpia, told us that her husband’s parents had committed suicide in 1947, and that the local peasants attributed the tragedy to the fact that the area was bewitched. It was as if everything had occurred as an act of vengeance carried out by the souls of the departed indians. Olimpia also stated that she had seen the two scars or wounds that Antonio Villas Boas had on his chin, which he attributed to the placement of suction cups that drew his blood aboard the craft.

Abducted by Humans

The next day, after a night of restless sleep in Doña Manuela’s decaying boarding house – we had the fortune of finding Odercia Villas Boas, Antonio’s closest sister. 70 years old, with an impressive memory and recovering from cancer, Odercia welcomed us with great courtesy to her humble residence. Her most valuable asset is an old TV set that barely picks up the broadcasts. We were the first researchers to interview here on the Villas Boas case, by her own admission.

“Our father owned a lot of land. My brother tilled the soil with the tractor and became a cattleman, transporting cattle to distant cities,” she recalled longingly. “I was the first person who tended to him after he had been inside that device.”

Here we were faced with a privileged witness, since it hadn’t occurred to anyone to interview her and her contributions would be extremely important in adding greater depth to the Antonio Villas Boas case.

“He arrived at five o’clock in the morning. He was very pale and trembling. I saw that he had two bruise marks on his chin. I gave him some very strong coffee to drink, but then he vomited a yellowish substance. He didn’t want to eat the hen I’d cooked for him. Then he told me what had happened. That the tractor had stopped, that he’d been dragged into that thing and that he slept with a very ugly woman. He slept poorly at nights, had nightmares.”

“You looked after him, then.” I said.

“Yes, along with his brother Jose and Damiao, the tractor operator. He stayed in bed several days. Everything he ate made him feel sick. He had headaches and complained about being very sleepy. Two weeks later small, itchy marks emerged on his arms and legs. When they dried, they showed a purplish cast around them.”

“It seems that he later went to Rio de Janeiro,” I volunteered.

“Yes, a pharmacist advised him to write a letter to Joao Martins, who was a reporter for “O Cruzeiro”, since this man wrote about flying saucers at the time. My brother wanted to talk to him to find out what had happened to him. Then, four months later, they paid him to take the bus to Rio de Janeiro, where a doctor examined him. He returned and later on, five men dressed in green uniforms took him to the United States. Some spoke Portuguese; others English. I think they were from NASA. They kept visiting several times over eight or ten years. They would always give my brother books written in English as gifts.”

“Why did they take him to the United States?” I asked anxiously.

“He was subjected to questioning and the lie detector in California. He was taken to an open area where the remains of a flying saucer could be found. They then showed him another, in good condition, inside an enclosed area like a museum, asking him if it was identical to the one he had seen. He told me that it was very similar. He was always accompanied by a journalist who had a foreign name and acted as an interpreter, and was always surrounded by uniformed American personnel.”

Who could have been the journalist who spoke both Portuguese and English? I admit that we were startled, as this confirmed the cooperation between the Brazilian authorities of that time and the U.S. government with regard to the UFO research, even compelling Brazilian citizens to travel against their will, violating their rights.

“He was in the United States for three days,” Odercia told us. “They later gave him two properties near San Francisco and San Rafael. I managed to see the deeds. They sent him back to Rio, where he spent between fifteen and twenty days in a hospital, undergoing new examinations and tests. This affected him greatly, it seems. According to the medical report, Antonio was in excellent mental health and not crazy.”

“Did the Americans tell him if extraterrestrial life exists?”

“Yes, they confirmed this to him. I now recall, also, that Antonio was afraid that this abductors would come back to take him to another planet. It seems that the flying object returned, in fact, eight days after the kidnapping.”

Odercia Villas Boas also confirmed the existence of supernatural phenomena (poltergeists?) at Hacienda Aldeia o Mata, such as the movements of the mortar handle. She added that in the house where the women did the cooking, balls of mud filled with fur or long hair would fly around and land inside the ovens. No one knew where they came from or who threw them, as they emerged from nowhere.

“Was there talk about flying saucers in the area before Antonio’s experience?” I inquired of the lucid old lady.

“What I and many others saw, since I was a child, were lights that moved over a hill not too far from here. Many of them descended like stars in the evenings. I remember having seen them on several occasions since 1941. Once I saw a huge object, perhaps made of metal, silvery, that made a lot of noise. In 1964 or 1966 my daughters were playing in the schoolyard when they had to vacate it as quickly as possible: a flying saucer had landed there. The teachers saw it and were terrified. They all fled.”

“Did you notice any change in behavior in your brother after the abduction?”

“Yes, before the encounter with the saucer he was a happy person. Then he withdrew and seemed very sad. He didn’t want to talk about the event. But he was always a very kind person, donating food for the poor. He was always very religious. During Easter Week he would carry the saint on his back while barefoot. He never drank. He was studious and was already taking correspondence courses in 1957. Later on he went to live in various cities in Minas Gerais and Goiás. Thanks to his personal motivation and the encouragement of a nun, he graduated with a law degree in Brasilia.

“Did Antonio ever give any interviews? “ I asked.

“He didn’t like the subject to be made public. He was always very discreet and didn’t want to discuss his experiences. But one day received an offer from a famous television personality, Flavio Cavalcanti, and he accepted. But NASA kept him from appearing,” Odercia revealed.

Our reinvestigation of the Villas Boas case rekindles, with more proof, criticism about U.S. intervention in the UFO subject and the possibility that this country is in possession of remains or whole craft of possible extraterrestrial origin, under strict custody and secrecy.

A key figure in this plot was Dr. Olavo Fontes. Intelligent, methodical, fluent in English and with friends in the Brazilian military’s upper echelon, he was accused by some ufologists of collaborating with intelligence agencies within his own country and the United States. His constant travels to that country as a representative of the defunct APRO organization, spearheaded by Jim and Coral Lorenzen, caused even greater mistrust.

All appears to suggest that Fontes was closely tied to U.S. authorities and privy to a number of ufological secrets. He died young, in 1968, from a quick-spreading cancer. Some believe that Fontes was the victim of a conspiracy that also cut short the lives of other ufologists who “knew too much.”

Did U.S. authorities try to purchase Antonio’s silence by giving him properties in California? Why was he not allowed to speak publicly? It is very possible that the former farm boy and later trial judge took one of the greatest mysteries of all time to grave.
Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by Betty605: 11:56pm On Nov 14, 2007
HELLO!!

KNOCK KNOCK!!!
ANY BODY THERE?

i THOT THIS WAS A RELIGIOUS FORUM!!! undecided

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