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Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by officialmario(m): 10:00am On Mar 28, 2021
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Righteousness2(m): 10:01am On Mar 28, 2021
Yes! Absolutely and Confidently!
Having an Understanding of the Scriptures is also very Important
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Seytex: 11:23am On Mar 28, 2021
believing everything is hard
not believing everything in the scripture is hard
chose your hardness wisely

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:49pm On Mar 28, 2021
The highlighted caught my attention!

Please with who did you study God's word?

Because according to the prophecy regarding the endtime, there were hidden secrets in God's word that even ancient prophets can't decipher. Daniel 12:10-13

WHY?

Because God has not released his spirit to help people know how they can unravel those sacred secrets. Back then God will tell the prophets the interpretation of the sacred secrets but this time there is one thing they must do before they can grasp the understanding of these sacred secrets!

When Jesus came to commission what will lead to the release of God's Holy Spirit for this great purpose he taught his disciples that [b] where two or three are gathered in his name he will be there with them
{Matthew 18:20} meaning God's Holy Spirit which is working with Jesus will help them to unravel all the secrets. That's what an ancient prophets said "at that time (when God's holy spirit has been released) those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another each person with his companion (deliberating on the meaning of the sacred secrets found in God's word) and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before (God) for those fearing HIM and for those meditating on his name" {Malachi 3:16} this prophet goes on to say "and there will be a distinction between those worshiping God and those who aren't worshiping him" {Malachi 3:18} meaning after all their studying when they failed to produce something worthwhile honest hearted observers will know the difference!

So please with who did you study God's word before the Holy Spirit came down as Jesus promised?



officialmario:

Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Eviana(f): 5:15pm On Mar 28, 2021
Christianity is about "free-will"...the ability to "choose" or "decide if one believes in Christ and His message."

What I love about the Bible is that scriptures basically address most questions on my mind.
What I must do though is: pray for the Holy Spirit to grant me wisdom and understanding "of" & faith "in" the Word of God.
So the question becomes this: "Do I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac & Israel...do I believe in the plan of salvation regarding His Son Jesus Christ?"
Do I believe that the Bible is God's character personified and blueprint for my life here on earth...to prepare me for eternity with Him?
When one can settle those questions in one's mind, therein lies the answer as to whether one can trust in ALL of the Word of God.

Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him


2 Tim. 3:16 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Mar 28, 2021
Eviana:
Christianity is about "free-will"...the ability to "choose" or "decide if one believes in Christ and His message."

What I love about the Bible is that scriptures basically address most questions on my mind.
What I must do though is: pray for the Holy Spirit to grant me wisdom and understanding "of" & faith "in" the Word of God.
So the question becomes this: "Do I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac & Israel...do I believe in the plan of salvation regarding His Son Jesus Christ?"
Do I believe that the Bible is God's character personified and blueprint for my life here on earth...to prepare me for eternity with Him?
When one can settle those questions in one's mind, therein lies the answer as to whether one can trust in ALL of the Word of God.

Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him


2 Tim. 3:16 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



Christianity is about freewill yet men of god go always remind us about the misfortune that will come out way if we no pay tithe.

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by xproducer: 6:11pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?
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Yes, we should - without question!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16

"...for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

"The words of the Lord are pure words, Like silver tried in a furnace of earth, Purified seven times." - Psalm 12:6

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"Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth." - John 17:17
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by BetterChurch: 6:27pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?

Actually, the Scripture is the Living Word of God, the Logos. It's the living embodiment of God. Empirically, It has two aspects--The Inner Master and the Outer Master. A written recording like the Bible is a good starting point. A sincere lover of God will in time meet the Inner Master via dream travel. IT is superior to the bible or any other written scriptures. Basically, that's the goal of the written word like the holy Bible.
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:28pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?
Do you mean everything in the Bible?

If so, then you must not believe everything or saying you see in it, otherwise you'd also believe the words of the devil because it is also in the Bible, and the devil is a liar!

Genesis 3:1, 4-5 (KJV)

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


Adam and Eve believed what the devil said here which is also in the Bible and that got us to the pitiful state we are today.

Aside the saying of the devil inside the Bible, there are also the sayings of men inside, and some of them are not inspired of God but of the flesh including some of the sayings of true prophets and apostles.

For instance Peter who was a true apostle of God said something and Jesus told him that flesh and blood had not revealed it to him, but on another occasion shortly after that, the same Peter said something else and Jesus said to him, "get behind behind me Satan..." to show that despite being a true apostle of Christ what He said on that very occasion was not inspired of the Spirit of God but the flesh! Matthew 16:17, 23

The best way to distinguish between that which was inspired of the Spirit in the Bible and that which wasn't, but of the flesh or the devil, is to use the teachings of Jesus which is 100% inspired by the Spirit of God as a standard.

That's the only way you could have the chance of being perfect as God is and also as Jesus was while on Earth, because it would save you from the limitations of men, which is the main reason many are not able to replicate the things that Jesus did while on Earth.

God bless.

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by sonmvayina(m): 6:30pm On Mar 28, 2021
Which of the writters believed what they wrote?..

They where not written for you to believe, it was written for you to know. So you dont perish....

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 6:34pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?

You say you have studied the Scripture but I see that you do not understand that which you have studied.

For if you truly did, you would not ask this question!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Heathen777(m): 7:33pm On Mar 28, 2021
Righteousness2:
Yes! Absolutely and Confidently!
Having an Understanding of the Scriptures is also very Important

Do you believe human slavery and genocide are right? If no, then you don't absolutely believe in everything the bible commanded.
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Kobojunkie: 7:39pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?
First of all, the book you call the Bible is not a Holy book... it is simply a book that contains the Word of God. Only God can make Holy things and since God did not write or print the book you hold in your hands, it is not a Holy Book.

Second, you are called to accept and trust the Word of God, not everything that is written in the book, since the book you hold there also contains the musings and opinions of men, as well as that of demons. Instead, you are to, like Jesus Christ said, feed on that which is the Word of God. undecided

So, what is the Word of God? The Word of God refers to that which is written as coming out of the mouth of God Himself... So, where you are not told that God said it, it is likely not the Word of God, even though it is written down in the Bible. undecided
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Heathen777(m): 7:43pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?

To believe 100% in anything/anyone is the first step to abandoning your ability to think and reason for yourself.

"To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~ Voltaire

The bible is not perfect, and anyone who 'dares' to critically examine it with a free mind would easily see that for themselves.

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by budaatum: 8:02pm On Mar 28, 2021
officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?

No you definitely should not believe everything in the bible!

If you believe everything in the Bible, you will be like ignorant believing enslaved in the Garden of Eden Adam instead of very Wise Use the Senses Scientist Eve who plucked and ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to test if it is true that on the day that she eats it she will surely die, and finding it was good for gaining wisdom, her eyes opened, she invented clothes, she and her stupid Adam became free and self employed and they both lived for 900 or so years and populated the earth with people who are now on the way to far away Mars.

I would strongly advice you continue to seek understanding of what you read in the Bible as you are already seeking, thank God.
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 9:04pm On Mar 28, 2021
Heathen777:


To believe 100% in anything/anyone is the first step to abandoning your ability to think and reason for yourself.


You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!

Heathen777:


"To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~ Voltaire

The bible is not perfect, and anyone who 'dares' to critically examine it with a free mind would easily see that for themselves.

grin That is what I love about God and His rule.

You can and are even permitted to question His works of course within the laws of good reason.

Any that says do not question God, is actually in truth saying "abeg no ask me, I no know"

For if you do not question, how can you know, and if you do not know you cannot be reasonably held responsible for that which you do not know nor can you be reasonably expected to know!

Questions, reasonable questions lead to knowledge and with knowledge, there is now no further need to question!

That is the way of God, let none tell you otherwise!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 9:22pm On Mar 28, 2021
Heathen777:


Do you believe human slavery and genocide are right? If no, then you don't absolutely believe in everything the bible commanded.

The Bible never recommended nor supported slavery!

It simply recognised that man held his fellow man as slaves and rather told him to set them free after a period of time for it understood that to tell man to give up his slaves immediately would be hard for the "slave owner" and on the other hand may constitute a problem for the man in slavery who may have no place to go back to of course whom the "slave owner" shall wickedly kick out with nothing!

But with the time frame, they can both adjust to the freedom of the "slave"

None of you consider that it is very vexatious to God for a man to claim ownership of his fellow man, creation claiming ownership of his fellow creation!

No one can claim ownership of man, save his True Owner and Creation.

This is wrongful conversion of property belonging to another and a wickedness of man to his fellow man.

All the Things God Hates!

If you knew God's mind eh!

On genocide, do we not kill snakes, even baby snakes, why? So they do not harm and kill us.

Do we wait for them to hurt us first? No, we do not, we kill it on sight as Nairaland is very famous for posting!

This is same for an Evil man and for his children, for a snake must give birth to a snake!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Heathen777(m): 10:19pm On Mar 28, 2021
truespeak:


The Bible never recommended nor supported slavery!

It simply recognised that man held his fellow man as slaves and rather told him to set them free after a period of time for it understood that to tell man to give up his slaves immediately would be hard for the "slave owner" and on the other hand may constitute a problem for the man in slavery who may have no place to go back to of course whom the "slave owner" shall wickedly kick out with nothing!
That only applied to Hebrew male slaves. Female were not to be set free. Also any foreign slaves, male or female were made slaves for life even going as far as to call them "your property". You don't even know the bible you profess properly.

truespeak:

But with the time frame, they can both adjust to the freedom of the "slave"

None of you consider that it is very vexatious to God for a man to claim ownership of his fellow man, creation claiming ownership of his fellow creation!

The bible clearly and explicitly supported savery. Stop denying it

Leviticus 25:44-45
New King James Version
44 And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. 45 Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property.

truespeak:

No one can claim ownership of man, save his True Owner and Creation.

This is wrongful conversion of property belonging to another and a wickedness of man to his fellow man.

All the Things God Hates!

If you knew God's mind eh!

On genocide, do we not kill snakes, even baby snakes, why? So they do not harm and kill us.

Do we wait for them to hurt us first? No, we do not, we kill it on sight as Nairaland is very famous for posting!

This is same for an Evil man and for his children, for a snake must give birth to a snake!

Many times God commanded the isrealites many times to kill the inhabitants of cannan and take over their cities. He even said they should kill their young ones. You can deny it all you want but it is there in the scriptures.
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Heathen777(m): 10:31pm On Mar 28, 2021
truespeak:


You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!


That would be the case if Christians had any evidence for the stories of the bible. All too often they accept the claims and stories which have no evidence to back them up. What is the basis of a garden of eden, noah's flood, exodus from egypt crossing a parted river, soddom and Gomorrah, heaven and hell. You can't base a belief in the bible based on valid evidence otherwise you would most stories have no basis.

Ill be waiting for you to prove otherwise....


truespeak:

grin That is what I love about God and His rule.

You can and are even permitted to question His works of course within the laws of good reason.

Any that says do not question God, is actually in truth saying "abeg no ask me, I no know"

For if you do not question, how can you know, and if you do not know you cannot be reasonably held responsible for that which you do not know nor can you be reasonably expected to know!

Questions, reasonable questions lead to knowledge and with knowledge, there is now no further need to question!

That is the way of God, let none tell you otherwise!

It's better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question. There are some things in the bible that must be accepted as true, and any question and conclusion that states otherwise are false. For example, the belief that Jesus was the messiah. The Jews have asked this question, looked at their old testaments scriptures and disagreed he was the messiah based on the scriptures, are they wrong?
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 10:54pm On Mar 28, 2021
Heathen777:



That would be the case if Christians had any evidence for the stories of the bible. All too often they accept the claims and stories which have no evidence to back them up. What is the basis of a garden of eden, noah's flood, exodus from egypt crossing a parted river, soddom and Gomorrah, heaven and hell. You can't base a belief in the bible based on valid evidence otherwise you would most stories have no basis.

Ill be waiting for you to prove otherwise....

This is no answer to my statement for I did not go into the truth or otherwise of the Bible but simply stated query everything placed before you to find the truth which you can then rely on/ believe on in reply to your statement on believe!

So it is rather you who raised up the truth or otherwise of the Bible so on the law of "he who alleges must prove" it is for you to prove same!

Heathen777:


It's better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question. There are some things in the bible that must be accepted as true, and any question and conclusion that states otherwise are false. For example, the belief that Jesus was the messiah. The Jews have asked this question, looked at their old testaments scriptures and disagreed he was the messiah based on the scriptures, are they wrong?

When you bring in the Jews as witnesses against Christ, you bring in tainted Witnesses and Witness with Interest, and such Witnesses are not credible as such we cannot accept their testimony for even the scriptures which they claim to follow they rejected and fought God all the way as in evident in Exodus that Moses had to beg them to keep the laws of God and all through the "old" testament especially in the books of the Prophets you would find God complaining about their refusal to follow Him and keep His Laws!

So they are bad witnesses and their testimony cannot be relied on!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by budaatum: 10:54pm On Mar 28, 2021
truespeak:


You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!

I think it is you trying to make "believe" mean something else.

Like I often say, you do not believe your mother is your mother unless you are not sure that the woman you call mother is your mother.

You do not just believe if you have asked and knocked and seeked and now know.
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 11:39pm On Mar 28, 2021
Heathen777:

That only applied to Hebrew male slaves. Female were not to be set free.
Exodus 21:7

grin Do you know why?

Because it is known that men sleep with their female servants/slaves and now after "spoiling" her, you now wish to put her away in the name of freeing her, who would take her up?

No, that is wickedness which is why Exodus 21: 8 goes on to say "If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath Dealt Deceitfully With Her.


Heathen777:

Also any foreign slaves, male or female were made slaves for life even going as far as to call them "your property". You don't even know the bible you profess properly.

The bible clearly and explicitly supported savery. Stop denying it

Leviticus 25:44-45
New King James Version
44 And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. 45 Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property.

grin
Let me reproduce the same passage in KJV

"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."

Now the Law is that the children of the house can never be servants of that house (which is what KJV calls it) or even slaves to use what other Bibles call it.

It is always strangers who are servants or slaves as we have all seen and witnessed in our houses.

Now unlike your NKJV which uses "property", KJV uses "possession" which is the only thing a man can have over another, possession not property which could be implied to mean ownership which is wrong for no man owns his fellow man but possession which means use which is all that he is entitled to!

Now, why shall they be your bondsmen for ever?

Simple, for God's plan was to bless and prosper Isreal and for every nation to be blessed in them, thus for being in the household of the Hebrew man he the foreigner/heathen shall be blessed exactly as the man who had the ark on his house was blessed, and being blessed shall he desire to leave? Never, but knowing how wicked man is now he shall seek to throw him out but now he cannot!

Heathen777:

Many times God commanded the isrealites many times to kill the inhabitants of cannan and take over their cities. He even said they should kill their young ones. You can deny it all you want but it is there in the scriptures.

grin I did not deny it at all I rather explained thus

"On genocide, do we not kill snakes, even baby snakes, why? So they do not harm and kill us.

Do we wait for them to hurt us first? No, we do not, we kill it on sight as Nairaland is very famous for posting!

This is same for an Evil man and for his children, for a snake must give birth to a snake!"

To which you have not countered but are rather repeating yourself!

Repitition shows you cannot answer!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 12:09am On Mar 29, 2021
budaatum:


I think it is you trying to make "believe" mean something else.

Like I often say, you do not believe your mother is your mother unless you are not sure that the woman you call mother is your mother.

You do not just believe if you have asked and knocked and seeked and now know.

grin The Truth is in the Past!

You folks have all been deceived into thinking believe means something you just hold on to when you are not sure!

Verily I say unto you if you knew the true meaning of be-live then you would know that it means to live on or be-living on that which you know to be true and good exactly as you stand on a ground you know to be solid.

No one begins to live or will be-living on a falls( false) ground for he knows that he shall surely fall and break his neck!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by budaatum: 12:24am On Mar 29, 2021
truespeak:


grin The Truth is in the Past!

You folks have all been deceived into thinking believe means something you just hold on to when you are not sure!

Verily I say unto you if you knew the true meaning of be-live then you would know that it means to live on or be-living on that which know to be true and good exactly as you stand on a ground you know to be solid.

No one begins to live or will be-living on a falls( false) ground for he knows that he shall surely fall and break his neck!

The fact that it is described as something demons do is enough of a hint to show it can not exactly be the good thing you believe it to be unless the intention is to make one tremble like demons.

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 12:35am On Mar 29, 2021
budaatum:


The fact that it is described as something demons do is enough of a hint to show it can not exactly be the good thing you believe it to be unless the intention is to make one tremble like demons.

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If you truly knew what that meant, you would not say what you say!

Did you not see the Demons tremble when they saw Christ? And rather sought His permission to flee from His presence?

Meaning they saw Christ, recognised who He is further meaning they surely knew Him (believe) (not your understanding which means not sure) but Certainly knew Him which produced their trembling!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by budaatum: 1:02am On Mar 29, 2021
truespeak:


If you truly knew what that meant, you would not say what you say!

Did you not see the Demons tremble when they saw Christ? And rather sought His permission to flee from His presence?

Meaning they saw Christ, recognised who He is further meaning they surely knew Him (believe) (not your understanding which means not sure) but Certainly knew Him which produced their trembling!

One can not "truly knew what that meant" unless one understands what that meant, is precisely the point!

The fact remains that with all their believing, they trembled. It's similar to many who claim they believe in God but lack faith in their belief. When the storms come and the rains fall and the winds blow, their belief is blown away like a house built on sand, which is why the word belief is omitted for the more powerful does in the verses below.

Build on the Rock
24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”


You do because you understand the benefits of doing, whereas, you believe because you hope you are right but do not know for certain whether you are right or not.

You may understand better when you consider my favourite Parable of the Orangutan where Christ said, "Emulate the unbelieving pagan Samaritan and not the believing Priest and the Levite", both who sinned precisely because of their beliefs.

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Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by TheSourcerer: 1:29am On Mar 29, 2021
truespeak:


You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!



grin That is what I love about God and His rule.

You can and are even permitted to question His works of course within the laws of good reason.

Any that says do not question God, is actually in truth saying "abeg no ask me, I no know"

For if you do not question, how can you know, and if you do not know you cannot be reasonably held responsible for that which you do not know nor can you be reasonably expected to know!

Questions, reasonable questions lead to knowledge and with knowledge, there is now no further need to question!

That is the way of God, let none tell you otherwise!
smgdh
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by TheSourcerer: 1:30am On Mar 29, 2021
truespeak:


If you truly knew what that meant, you would not say what you say!

Did you not see the Demons tremble when they saw Christ? And rather sought His permission to flee from His presence?

Meaning they saw Christ, recognised who He is further meaning they surely knew Him (believe) (not your understanding which means not sure) but Certainly knew Him which produced their trembling!
smgdh
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by truespeak: 8:25am On Mar 29, 2021
budaatum:


One can not "truly knew what that meant" unless one understands what that meant, is precisely the point!

shocked is that not what it means to truly know? shocked

So I do not see any problem here!

budaatum:

The fact remains that with all their believing, they trembled...

See how you kill yourself!

This is not a counter to my assertion that they trembled because they knew.

It rather supports it!

They Knew who it was before them thus they trembled and must tremble!

Thus I am discharged and proceed no more!
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by sonmvayina(m): 10:14am On Mar 29, 2021
Life is a journey...only the destination is given, the journey is not given. It is entirely up to you. Life is a choice. Deuteronomy 30 says : i place before you today life and death.....if you decide to choose life then God has given us his laws to guide us. ..

The journey is from ignorance (slavery in Egypt ) to spiritual enlightenment(promised land) it is expected that age 40 you should hace gotten there...if not like they say a fool at 40 will be a fool forever..

The battles and wars are within. The battles are against Ego, Envy, jelosy, procastination, worries, fear...childish thoughts..etc.)...slavery might be things that you temporary need like ..it is Ok to be scared sometimes...

So the bible is about our journey...

The new testament is just a distraction..
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by budaatum: 1:21pm On Mar 29, 2021
truespeak:


shocked is that not what it means to truly know? shocked

So I do not see any problem here!



See how you kill yourself!

This is not a counter to my assertion that they trembled because they knew.

It rather supports it!

They Knew who it was before them thus they trembled and must tremble!

Thus I am discharged and proceed no more!

You believe, Lol. You do not seek to understand so [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4%3A13&version=KJV]you depart from buda[/url]
Re: Should We Believe Everything In The Holy Scripture? by Eviana(f): 11:41am On Mar 30, 2021
Atiku:



Christianity is about freewill yet men of god go always remind us about the misfortune that will come out way if we no pay tithe.

If you seek to know who the Lord God Almighty is & His character FIRST, then you would:
1. Enter into a relationship with Him.
2.Pray for the Holy Spirit to help you understand the Word......and how you are to live.
3. Prayerfully be led to a "sola scriptura" church of fellow believers where the men in authority (pastors) are sincere.

Be careful about pushing the narrative that "every church" is useless & corrupt.
Many of them "are"....but there are some that "are not".
Every denominational church (under the guise of Christianity) is NOT led by false teachers, false prophets, theatrical "healing" shows, "seed-sowing" promises or prosperity gospel. There are treasures at the bottom of the hay-stack..if one keeps searching.
If you truly want Christ, you will find Him.

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