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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by samuel051: 8:40am On Sep 05, 2021
Was it looted from d governor's office or residence? Return it to d palace where it belongs..

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by KingWarri: 8:40am On Sep 05, 2021
Goldbw122:
Remain a mystery
No mystery there, the British are thieves. They always documents every invasion they made in the past and the number of loots they stole. So it's very much easier to return to the true owners.

Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by ddeola: 8:46am On Sep 05, 2021
This is one of the unreasonable excuses of yahoo yahoo boys, the British stole the artifacts by force when they invaded our land and they are still adamant to come clean on the matter. sad sad sad

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by colestephan86: 8:48am On Sep 05, 2021
michigang:
Should the British Museum return its priceless collection of Benin Bronzes?




https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/should-the-british-museum-return-its-benin-bronzes-
In my view , the items should be left where they are
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by KingOKON: 9:01am On Sep 05, 2021
Oba get all this and a Suzerain they call Ogane no get shinshin, which kind Suzerain be that?

Ogane wey nobody sabi except the smokers

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Nobody: 9:03am On Sep 05, 2021
Reason why I am not against Yahoo boys scamming these white morons. Until the West pays reparations to Africa I'm all for any black man that can scam the blue thunder out of them.
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by jeff1607(m): 9:06am On Sep 05, 2021
And to think these people brought religion here and talked about restitution.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by IbileIfe: 9:21am On Sep 05, 2021
If you see the dilapidated buildings in the National Museum and National Gallery of Arts in Lagos, you will not want the Nigerian artworks in foreign museums to be returned to Nigeria.
Because, Nigerians cannot preserve our artworks. They are better preserved and safer in American and European art galleries and museums.
My masterpiece of painting, "Blessed Mother" I made live in the Education Unit of the National Museum in Onikan on the Lagos Island was later missing from the museum and never found till date. Some of my colourful illustrations were missing at the UNICEF in Nigeria in 1988 and not found till date.
Nigerians cannot preserve our artworks.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Nobody: 9:22am On Sep 05, 2021
It's very simple, THE OBA
It was taken from the Oba's palace
Let it return to the Oba's palace

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by tollyboy5(m): 9:36am On Sep 05, 2021
UltimateSpice:
It was unfortunate that the British robbed Africans of their heritage. The bronzes belonged to the Edo people and it is not late to return them to their ancestral home.
we are not serious about getting them back tho
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by tollyboy5(m): 9:38am On Sep 05, 2021
IbileIfe:
If you see the dilapidated buildings in the National Museum and National Gallery of Arts in Lagos, you will not want the Nigerian artworks in foreign museums to be returned to Nigeria.
Because, Nigerians cannot preserve our artworks. They are better preserved and safer in American and European art galleries and museums.
My masterpiece of painting, "Blessed Mother" I made live in the Education Unit of the National Museum in Onikan on the Lagos Island was later missing from the museum and never found till date. Some of my colourful illustrations were missing at the UNICEF in Nigeria in 1988 and not found till date.
Nigerians cannot preserve our artworks.
Look it so much get me annoyed. Lagos is not in the hands and power of the natives thats why all this happens.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by musicwriter(m): 9:44am On Sep 05, 2021
Be careful of the psycho attack in what you're reading.

Note that the article itself is against returning the artefacts. It's simply orchestrating you to a mindset that it's not a good idea returning the artefacts. That's how Britain commit wider fraud on their former colonies. Check out www.africason.com for articles to give you a clue how to set yourself free from their mind control gimmicks.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Speakright79(m): 9:52am On Sep 05, 2021
To me, it should be about which would pay us more as a country. Would keeping the bronzes here generate revenues as well as leaving them in Europe where people are willing to pay for viewing them? If a deal can be made with the European hosts to pay for keeping our artifacts then we should consider allowing them keep them for specified periods. After all, how many Nigerians are willing to pay to visit museums to see artifacts?

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Flytime: 9:58am On Sep 05, 2021
In my opinion till nigeria builds a world class museum they should remain in europe
Infact if I have the opportunity I'll return those that have been returned to nigeria

Most of this artifacts ends up with the royal family which kills the purpose of them getting it back so nigerians can learn about their culture without traveling to europe
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Speakright79(m): 10:02am On Sep 05, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:
Reason why I am not against Yahoo boys scamming these white morons. Until the West pays reparations to Africa I'm all for any black man that can scam the blue thunder out of them.
Don't kid yourself brother, African failure is not due to the West; it is due to the pathetic nature of the black people. Yes, black people have a pathetic, nature: destructive selfishness. That is why African nations cannot prosper. Even if the west pays reparations in trillions of dollars, it would not make black Africa prosper.
This is because black people are inherently more selfish and lazy than white people. That's the bitter truth we have to admit to if we are to change our destiny as a race.
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by kraftysprouts: 10:47am On Sep 05, 2021
Sonnobax15:
cheesy
Well,the Binis have a very long and interesting heritage, raging from their different diversity down to their rich tradition....
As for me,I believe the bronze belongs to the Benin people....

The Problem here is that most of these bronzes were actually stolen from africa with the help of our own African brothers.....I don't think it should be a difficult thing for the Britons to return such artifacts back to where they rightfully belongs.

The British are thieves, how will they make money from tourism if they return it

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Techguy96(m): 11:01am On Sep 05, 2021
jeff1607:
And to think these people brought religion here and talked about restitution.
Very funny, they gave us religion and took our juju in exchange.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by jneutron4000: 11:04am On Sep 05, 2021
The artifacts belongs to the Oba of Benins, not the Idus Igodomigodo or the Esans. Most of the artifacts especially the heads carved ones are replicans of the previous heads of Oba of Benin and British stole those artifacts from the palace.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by generalwo(m): 11:12am On Sep 05, 2021
michigang:
Should the British Museum return its priceless collection of Benin Bronzes?




https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/should-the-british-museum-return-its-benin-bronzes-
..... U call am Benin bronzes and u dey ask me who get am? No be juju be that? Na Mr agofure get agofure motors.....

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by xpool(m): 11:23am On Sep 05, 2021
Sonnobax15:
cheesy
Well,the Binis have a very long and interesting heritage, raging from their different diversity down to their rich tradition....
As for me,I believe the bronze belongs to the Benin people....

The Problem here is that most of these bronzes were actually stolen from africa with the help of our own African brothers.....I don't think it should be a difficult thing for the Britons to return such artifacts back to where they rightfully belongs.

No,
Not all the so called Bini artefacts originally belonged to to Benin.
Bini was a kingdom conquering , enslaving and annexing many towns and plundering such towns just like the British.

Many of those artefacts where plundered and seized from Ishan lands, Ika lands, Urhobo lands, Aniocha lands etc
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by dfrost: 11:43am On Sep 05, 2021
Sonnobax15:
cheesy
Well,the Binis have a very long and interesting heritage, raging from their different diversity down to their rich tradition....
As for me,I believe the bronze belongs to the Benin people....

The Problem here is that most of these bronzes were actually stolen from africa with the help of our own African brothers.....I don't think it should be a difficult thing for the Britons to return such artifacts back to where they rightfully belongs.

Given what Nigerians are, if they return those artifacts, people might steal them and sell them again.
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Malawian(m): 11:45am On Sep 05, 2021
Sonnobax15:
cheesy
Well,the Binis have a very long and interesting heritage, raging from their different diversity down to their rich tradition....
As for me,I believe the bronze belongs to the Benin people....

The Problem here is that most of these bronzes were actually stolen from africa with the help of our own African brothers.....I don't think it should be a difficult thing for the Britons to return such artifacts back to where they rightfully belongs.
There was no help. Those guys plundered it after defeating the Benin Empire in just one week.
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Blitzerz: 11:53am On Sep 05, 2021
jeff1607:
And to think these people brought religion here and talked about restitution.
Africans have always had religion

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by cliffypatt(m): 11:56am On Sep 05, 2021
xpool:


No,
Not all the so called Bini artefacts originally belonged to to Benin.
Bini was a kingdom conquering , enslaving and annexing many towns and plundering such towns just like the British.

Many of those artefacts where plundered and seized from Ishan lands, Ika lands, Urhobo lands, Aniocha lands etc

slowpoke

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Nobody: 12:06pm On Sep 05, 2021
Speakright79:

Don't kid yourself brother, African failure is not due to the West; it is due to the pathetic nature of the black people. Yes, black people have a pathetic, nature: destructive selfishness. That is why African nations cannot prosper. Even if the west pays reparations in trillions of dollars, it would not make black Africa prosper.
This is because black people are inherently more selfish and lazy than white people. That's the bitter truth we have to admit to if we are to change our destiny as a race.

Im not talking about Africa's failure. I'm talking about hitting those morons back. They didn't (and still don't) see anything wrong in stealing from Africa. Why should I feel bad about it going the other way round?

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by OneManLegion(m): 12:15pm On Sep 05, 2021
I feel a smarter move would be to let the British keep them while we both agree to a sharing formula from revenue generated therefrom.

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Etinosa1234: 2:02pm On Sep 05, 2021
xpool:
[s]

No,
Not all the so called Bini artefacts originally belonged to to Benin.
Bini was a kingdom conquering , enslaving and annexing many towns and plundering such towns just like the British.

Many of those artefacts where plundered and seized from Ishan lands, Ika lands, Urhobo lands, Aniocha lands etc[/s]

Let other tribes come and identify their works from the bronze

Go to igun Street at sakponba road

That's where most of the artifacts were made

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Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by iPresh4s(m): 2:14pm On Sep 05, 2021
Wetin Oyibo dey do with these things sef?
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by xpool(m): 3:00pm On Sep 05, 2021
cliffypatt:


slowpoke

Truth is bitter, if you like call me any name you like.
BINI ALSO PLUNDERED OTHER TOWNS AND STOLE THEIR ARTEFACTS
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by Gfskw: 3:08pm On Sep 05, 2021
Govt
Re: Who Really Owns The Benin Bronzes? by PeraGSD: 3:37pm On Sep 05, 2021
In 1977, when the Nigerian government asked the British Museum for the loan of an ivory mask depicting Queen Idia, mother to the legendary Oba Esigie (1504-50), they were rebuffed on the grounds that it would be subject to different climatic conditions and much greater humidity.

So the climatic conditions in which they were made is now not good enough to take them back. angry
When Oyinbo wants to scam you ehn they will speak tongue in cheek grin

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