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Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Kobojunkiee: 7:42pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni:No it does not. * Holiness/Perfection does not fall under Love. * Faith does not fall under Love * Truth does not Fall under Love * Righteousness does not Fall under Love.. * Understanding does not fall under Love. * Eternal life does not fall under Love ...... God is Love and He is also all of the others. Attempting to reduce the other aspects of God so you can uplift that which you prefer is against God. There is no without Love or without Truth or without.... God is everything and He is the glue.. not Love. So, when God speaks His Truth , you are expected to submit to and obey it. Not twist it to fit your idea of what it instead. Pay attention to Him rather than try to force Him to conform to your own standard. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 7:55pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:ok ... the Almighty is love. But yeah you are right .. to the degree that you so prescribe. I don't challenge your assertions. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Kobojunkiee: 7:58pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni:I say you go back to the Gospels to learn the Truth of Jesus Christ so you can begin even now living in continual submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments.. the work we are called to do by Him. Note that I am not preaching any one else's Truth to you but His very own Teachings and commandments so you can forge a stronger bond and relationship and also learn to identify the lies when they come at you. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 8:08pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:well ok. I hear you. Loud and clear. Even if I have my thought on the matter but I hear you .. whatever message you were led to communicate.. I get it. I will take your advice and study the teachings of Jesus to be able to tell what voices I hear .. I hope I am right ? If I am not please let me understand more ... I guess I was using a hardened heart but now I will listen ... please go ahead. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Kobojunkiee: 8:30pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni:STUDY you say? Well, as it turns out, the only way to gain understanding of the Truth is, not through studying but by using of the understanding you already have of Him - doing of what He said. So rather than study, may I suggest instead that you read through the Gospels, as if you were reading a novel, and paying attention to do as you read what you comprehend Jesus Christ commands that His followers do. 10 The followers came to Jesus and asked, “Why do you use these stories to teach the people?”As the above states, the more you use even the basic understanding you already have , the more understanding will automagically be given you. As it turns out, this is the same teaching as that taught by Jesus Christ using the parable of the Ten Talents in Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30 which basically states to recieve more of anything that has to to with the Kingdom of God - Love, forgiveness, understanding, Truth, Faith etc., you have to use what you have.. 29 Everyone who uses what they have will get more. They will have much more than they need. But people who do not use what they have will have everything taken away from them. - Matthew 25 vs 29 |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Broveens42(m): 8:56pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni: The problem with nija christians is that they inherited an abstract religion that's why they can't even understand what yeshua said.. Love. But u see them trying to add up so many unimaginable things to sound 'intelifoolish' I mean what's so difficult with this charge; "Do unto others what you will have them do to you" 1 Like |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Kobojunkiee: 9:14pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Broveens42:Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law, am agreement promised by God through His prophets with which to bless the nations of the world with.- Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34 - the Law in the Kingdom of God. The Old Covenant Law of Moses is instead God's agreement with those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, as Law for living in the land of Canaaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 12 “Do for others what you would want them to do for you. This is the meaning of the Law of Moses and the teaching of the prophets. - Matthew 7 vs 12So, as you can see in the verse above, Jesus Christ said that in reference to the Old Law which He came to fulfill, not teach you to follow. *Always pay attention to context when reading from the Bible, even from the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 9:44pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni: Do you actually know the mean or origin of the word "God"?. Is like you are just typing it the way your The word God, never had origin in pagan deity. Go and check well. The word God transcend to what we refer to it today from usage and language just like the word father. So, if your god is just a father to you and not god, why then do you worship him. Why the worship of your god. Isn't that pagan? |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 9:44pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Myer: Bros, I hail o. Trust you are in perfect mind and health. Great reading your texts again. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 9:49pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
LordReed: Bro please can you explain your take on the concept of sin you mentioned. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Image123(m): 10:11pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
LordReed: Comedian, why would God want to stop you from posting on a forum and yet give you a Christian mother, father, brother, sister, wife and daughter? Think reed. He'll allow you have oxygen, rain, sunshine, good job, health and then deny you from posting on nairaland.com. Your facepalm is iconic. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Image123(m): 10:14pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
LordReed: You seem pleased to do the run around for him these days, is pa getting old? |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Myer(m): 10:17pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
hupernikao: I don't know about perfect but we thank God for good health of mind and health. I would like to crave your indulgence if for a nanosecond on your opinion on hearing from God. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 10:23pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:ok I got thsyou message |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 10:25pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
hupernikao:ok.. Yeah you are right... super right. Yep ... gottcha padre! |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Kobojunkiee: 10:27pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni:I truly hope you honestly begin trusting in and obeying Jesus Christ so you can begin to experience what it means to live by the Word out of Adonai's own Mouth - His Law, Jesus Christ and Truth - Matthew 4 vs 4. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 10:28pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:yes Roger that... you are far too kind . Peace. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 11:25pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni: No, I am not seeking for rightness. I asked a question. Do you worship a father or a god. What do you worship, knowing the origin of the practice. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 11:39pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
hupernikao:I done suffer o. Bros who send me message ... you are relentless gadammit! I worship the Creator of all creations but I call Him father .... I will tell you something you won't believe too. I asked to see him and what I saw was confusing I can draw you a picture tho ... but let me say what I saw was a glowing baby like some kind of Crystal I couldn't see the face it was too bright, it was in a kind of Crystal liquid but everything was floating freely .. the baby turned to me very slowly like it was in a crib and I saw hands and legs two of each but the fingers were abit different tho All through my experience I felt a calm that I am now quite used to. I know how ludacious it sounds but I will put it down in words as I know it ... there is way more than this and it started when I was a child ... about 7 years old ... |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 11:44pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Myer: Great to know your state. On hearing from God, as a starting point, the the very first point I will put forward is what the scripture teaching. Ps 119:130. The entrance of thy word is light and understanding to the simple. Also in another place, the psalmist states. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and light unto my path. Obviously, these texts showed us a simple way we are led by God. It's states that it's by his word. That means primarily no child of God lacks God's leading or hearing from him. It's a matter of the person"s choice. Hence the very first way God speaks to us is via his Word. It's the first, and the primary and the most reliable way. Until we see God's word as God's communication to us, we won't appreciate how much he says to us via the written word whenever we look at the word. The written word are God's counsel, thoughts and instructions for our daily living. If that's the primary way he leads us, then that's the primary way he wants us to hear from him What this means is that, when I read the scriptures it must be seen as me talking to God and God talking to me. I must see it as if, if God is physically here with me, this that I am reading is the same he will communicate to me now. It must be that real to me. Hence, we must first hear from his written word before, we can start speaking about audible or perception from our spirit because those are very subjective and must be tested by the written word. So, how do I know I hear from God. Whenever I read his word, that is him talking to me via the inspired writings. He is unveiling his thoughts to my thoughts in a written form. His instructions in those writings are what he wants me to carry our and prosper in them. It's also from this I will learn other options of hearing from him and how to judge those options so as not to be led astray. So the primary way is the written word. A man who cannot study and see God and his plan for him from the written word cannot be trusted as hearing the spirit or voices or perceive God. 1 Like |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 11:51pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
Franzinni: Congrats Bro on seeing a baby. It may be your future child calling out for you to be fast. Now if you worship your creator, don't you think that's a pagan practice. Worship is a pagan practice or you don't know? Why then do you relate with your creator the pagan way. Worship is for deity, firstly seen in pagan practice. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by LordReed(m): 11:54pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
hupernikao: In other to encourage behaviours they want the framers of a religion will call the behaviours they don't want sin and for Christianity in particular there is a cure for sin which only the religion of Christianity can provide. In actuality there is nothing like sin because the so called god giving the divine mandates doesn't exist. What does exist is harmful acts to your fellow human beings and your environment, not to a god. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Franzinni: 11:56pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
hupernikao:you don't know how I worship tho ... so you lost the point there .... I done ready for you now. Haha I don't practice any thing pagan ... that is why I refuse to follow what they are doing in the modern churches and rather I get close to my maker personally ... Most people that were close to Yahweh in the bible didn't need a bible |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Image123(m): 12:14am On Sep 11, 2021 |
LordReed: Yet Jesus Christ cures sin thoroughly, freely and more efficiently than the billions of money and efforts spent on reform and correction facilities. The Bible's description and cure for these harmful acts is dead on spot on than all the papers professors have ever churned out. Keep deluding yourself. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 12:55am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Franzinni: Always try to stay on point and avoid bringing your personal issues to the discussion. You worship God. It doesn't have to be the pagan way but it is a pagan practice. Yet you do it. But refused to use the name God. Do you think it's about lexicon? The moment you worship, there is a deity. That's the origin. That deity is called god. You don't worship your father, or do you? So, leave lexicon and the thought whispering to your imagination. If your imagination allows a worship, it's just playing on you to avoid using the name God, that's what you worship not the father. |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by hupernikao: 1:00am On Sep 11, 2021 |
LordReed: But sin simply means to miss a mark. To deviate from instruction or standard. Don't you think that happens everyday, even you can sin against someone by deviating from a set of standard or rule set. That's the meaning of sin. It's meaning is beyond moral uprightness. So sin surely exist right? |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Nobody: 1:11am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Franzinni: Please Can you help me with any amount of money? |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:03am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Franzinni: You are obviously talking about the death of Judas. Speculation is always done by a person giving his own judgement on an issue based on his own scantiness of evidence. And the Bible did not do this, it gave you the report of 2 witnesses. And reporting what a witness's testimony is not a speculation. Franzinni: I did no such thing, respectfully, you are the one who is now repeating and fighting for what you have been told (exactly as those Christ applicants who repeat what their teachers have told them. Therefore, your eyes has been Tainted by your evil thoughts and THUS, YOU ARE BIASED AND SHOCKED THAT THERE IS A REASONABLE EXPLANATION OF THE CONTENTS OF THE BIBLE, WHICH YOU YOURSELF COULD NOT REASONABLY FIND ANY FAULT WITH. BUT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT IT HAD NO GOOD AND FIRM EXPLANATION, WHICH IS WHY YOU ARE NOW COMPLAINING. Franzinni: Now you have moved to contradictions. The Bible has no contradiction worthy of any attention. Franzinni: I know you will lay them down and I will address them to the best of my ability. Franzinni: Remember you are the one asking the questions while I supply the answer to those questions asked. So you find that I completely believe the Bible and as you have honestly seen, you are not able to find any reasonable fault with my answer, even up to the level that you are in deed shocked that a reasonable answer can be provided. Franzinni: Glad to have been of assistance. Franzinni: All you need is to speak The Truth. Truth is self explanatory and does not need many words, which is the same thing you see in the Bible. It does not talk too much. Franzinni: I know what you are actually saying is "I can not believe that those questions could be answered such that I could not reasonably counter them, even when I sought a counter." Now you learn why God says He has established His Truth Forever and why we sing. It's so High you can never get over it. It's so Low you can never get under it. It's so Wide you can never get around it. It's so Strong you can never through it. "On Christ the SOLID ROCK I stand, All other grounds is Sinking Sands, All other grounds is Sinking Sands" |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:11am On Sep 11, 2021 |
LordReed: As long as it is seen that you are truly the son of Evil and that you represent your father, Satan, the-evil ('D'evil)! 1 Like |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:22am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Image123: his pa is a very old snake but, a snake still. 1 Like |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:27am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Image123: Satan's children never think well because their whole bodies are in the rectum of their evil father. 1 Like |
Re: God Is A Pagan Name... I Am Shocked! by LordReed(m): 6:53am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Blablablablabla, just nonsense talk is all you have. Tell your imaginary god to do something, let's see some action. LMAO |
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