Let them negotiate with USA

$65bn is not that much for the USA

The decision for the nuclear submarine is just to keep China at bay

olu77:
Look at what developed countries are quarrelling over, nucleared submarine, life is indeed not fair.

and we are here quarreling about grazing route is God not great


I still say to myself that the God the white are worshipping are totally different from ours in Africa

Goahead:
I wouldn't trust a country that builds Peugeot and Citroën to build a critical military hardware in the form of submarines. It will likely spend more time in the workshops than in the ocean.

,your last line ,lol ,you wee not make heaven ,make Peugeot 504 owners no catch you o

Lexusgs430:
Nah bad belleism......

France don budget how to spend the money........

And such had disrupt their plan

MrBONE2:

And such had disrupt their plan

You know that moment when you dey await alert....... All of a sudden, bad news land.......

Goahead:
I wouldn't trust a country that builds Peugeot and Citroën to build a critical military hardware in the form of submarines. It will likely spend more time in the workshops than in the ocean.

Go ahead, macron is listening......

Goahead:
I wouldn't trust a country that builds Peugeot and Citroën to build a critical military hardware in the form of submarines. It will likely spend more time in the workshops than in the ocean.

But you'll rather trust a country that builds Chevrolet & Ford (both aren't as quality as French cars).

jaxxy:


Since 2016 why did the contract delay? There were parts of the contract that allowed for a withdrawal. Many things happened.

Then Australia national interest since 2016 cud have changed. These are all valid considerations that superseded a stalled or delayed contract.

I agree sir but they should have terminated the contract first. The Australian pm still confirmed to French President two weeks ago that they stood by the contract.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/16/france-accuses-biden-of-sinking-australia-submarine-deal

naijaguy123456:
I can’t blame Australia here. The US and UK are world super power and having both behind you is any country dream. The fact France was overran during the world war and surrendered to Germany still tint their image till today. No one want a super power who was once whipping boy by Nazi German behind them and also Australia, UK and USA have one thing in common, same language!

Will be worse for them when they are annihilated again by China's Nuke. Australia has no nuke, America, UK, China and Russia do.. Do you know that if there should be a nuke war, America and uk might not get hit? Do you know who are likely to pay? America's nuke Allies such as Australia, Japan, s.Korea and Taiwan because they are the direct immediate threat to the enemy so they are contained first by the enemy nukes. Go read about all the world wars and understand how dangerous and a liability it is to take side in nuke war.. The unfortunate allies always suffered the worst nightmare, they are targeted by the enemy's retribution plan if they can't reach their primary targets which are UK and the us. the America and the UK are likely not to get hit but allies always pay for their war. Best thing to do? Maintain sizeable distance from war mongering allies. Look at world war 2, Germany didn't get nuked though they started the war but guess what, Japan did, middle east get ravaged for taking sides in world war one they are still paying for it today. Your views are so full of sentiments, illogical and ignorance. Your knowledge of global powerhouse and war politics is sensational. Use your limited time to study more history, be well informed. Don't be Naive

naijaguy123456:
I can’t blame Australia here. The US and UK are world super power and having both behind you is any country dream. The fact France was overran during the world war and surrendered to Germany still tint their image till today. No one want a super power who was once whipping boy by Nazi German behind them and also Australia, UK and USA have one thing in common, same language!

See analysis! You are very wrong.
Are you saying that Australia jettisoned the deal with France because they don't have common languageit felt that France is not as powerful as uk? Why will it entered into the deal with France in the first place, if that is the case?

naijaguy123456:
I can’t blame Australia here. The US and UK are world super power and having both behind you is any country dream. The fact France was overran during the world war and surrendered to Germany still tint their image till today. No one want a super power who was once whipping boy by Nazi German behind them and also Australia, UK and USA have one thing in common, same language!

Something tells me France and Germany are more with Russia than with USA. The only thing keeping Western alliance together is the economic opportunity which the USA trade pact offer them

olu77:
Look at what developed countries are quarrelling over, nucleared submarine, life is indeed not fair.

And the vegetable in Aso rock will be arguing about cow.

No punishment hard pass this one whey God give us by sending Buhari to us.

naijaguy123456:
I can’t blame Australia here. The US and UK are world super power and having both behind you is any country dream. The fact France was overran during the world war and surrendered to Germany still tint their image till today. No one want a super power who was once whipping boy by Nazi German behind them and also Australia, UK and USA have one thing in common, same language!

This must be a joke. Calling UK a Super Power, considering the Indo pacific threats they faced from the trio of China, Russia, and North Korea. If the US had not entered the WW2, do you think the UK would win the war? Don't forget the Japanese whipped the British in Burma and almost exterminated the Asian presence of the British until they committed the Pearl Harbor error which brought the US in.

Right now, I always see the UK as a US puppet Power. Anywhere belle face. UK foreign policy is essentially applied Anglo-American interests. If not, they wouldn't always hide under American shadows. France, on the other hands, have always wanted to challenge the US super power status and toxic unilateralism. From demanding for exit of American troops from France in the post WW2, to objecting to the 2003 American invasion of Iraq, and also not willing to turn on China for America, France has always been a thorny ally. It is only allied on mutual interests, unlike the eternally good subservient boy to the US, the UK. Scott Morison allowing Australia to be featured as a pawn in the larger Sino-American hegemonic tussles in the Indo-Pacific will have negative consequences that will be immediately felt by Australia, rather than far away US. First, some Australian Companies lost their big share of the Chinese Market, more losses are underway and stressed America wouldn't give nada as compensation!

Caseless:
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I like how the French government said "it was betrayed". All of you are known betrayers. You only stand where your interest lies.

Do you stand where the interest of others lies to the detriment of your own interest?. This issue is about national security not about selling pizzas

naijaguy123456:
I can’t blame Australia here. The US and UK are world super power and having both behind you is any country dream. The fact France was overran during the world war and surrendered to Germany still tint their image till today. No one want a super power who was once whipping boy by Nazi German behind them and also Australia, UK and USA have one thing in common, same language!

The UK were almost overrun by the nazi Germans too. If they hadn't gone after the Soviets instead.

ogwumgbe:


Nothing like stabbing here bro, their relationship with France ended in 2003 when France refused to go to war in Irag with US

Because the fact on ground doesn't warrant a war...France did right.

Praxis758:
To the US, it is building alliance

To the UK, it is having a strong footing

To the Australian government it is self interest for protection to warn any foreign threat

While such a self interest by Australian govt to form such a strong alliance is a threat to the selfish interest of the French government.


The summary of all is that, in life, your self interest to pursue the course of success is a big threat that is secretly saddening some people.

You’re right. Everyone here is protecting their self interest. It is just unfortunate that France had to be at the receiving end. I hope they can come to a peaceful resolution

gnykelly:


Because the fact on ground doesn't warrant a war...France did right.

Did which right? France's allies US, was attacked by terrorist and France refused to go to war with it's US allies, France out rightly betrayed the US

olu77:
Look at what developed countries are quarrelling over, nucleared submarine, life is indeed not fair.

. Life no balance at all

sapientia:
Let them negotiate with USA

$65bn is not that much for the USA

The decision for the nuclear submarine have is just to keep China at bay

Same thing. All the parties involved need to renegotiate

Praxis758:
To the US, it is building alliance

To the UK, it is having a strong footing

To the Australian government it is self interest for protection to warn any foreign threat

While such a self interest by Australian govt to form such a strong alliance is a threat to the selfish interest of the French government.


The summary of all is that, in life, your self interest to pursue the course of success is a big threat that is secretly saddening some people.

Excellent!

Goahead:
I wouldn't trust a country that builds Peugeot and Citroën to build a critical military hardware in the form of submarines. It will likely spend more time in the workshops than in the ocean.

PSA is the second highest selling brand in Europe.
Peugeot has had the highest number of cars of the year in Europe in the past decade.
What are you on about?

bamidbamid: My country is still after Sunday igboho, Nnamdi Kanu and fighting bandits and herdsmen.
U 4got boko boyz

ogwumgbe:


Did which right? France's allies US, was attacked by terrorist and France refused to go to war with it's US allies, France out rightly betrayed the US

It's a public knowledge that the terrorist were from Saudi Arabia why attack Iraq with false alarm.

gnykelly:


It's a public knowledge that the terrorist were from Saudi Arabia why attack Iraq with false alarm.

Nothing like false alarm bro, that war is a smoke screen to uproot Saddam, the sponsor of terrorists that attacked US, as well as Gaddafi and others that US termed axis of evil

Their enemies must be smiling by now knowing that disunity has ensued. But come come to think of it , what has our government done apart from external borrowing since the inception of this present Buhari's administration ?
Just asking oooo

ogwumgbe:


Nothing like false alarm bro, that war is a smoke screen to uproot Saddam, the sponsor of terrorists that attacked US, as well as Gaddafi and others that US termed axis of evil

Saddam Hussein never sponsored foreign terrorism don't confuse Iraq with Iran.

Saddam kill terrorist when he was alive.

gnykelly:


Saddam Hussein never sponsored foreign terrorism don't confuse Iraq with Iran.

Saddam kill terrorist when he was alive.

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Would he come out openly to declare his support and sponsor of terrorism, just like some politicians in Nigeria are sponsoring terrorism, who among them has admitted sponsorship of terrorism, I don't think you know more than the US that knew where their attackers were from

ogwumgbe:
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Would he come out openly to declare his support and sponsor of terrorism, just like some politicians in Nigeria are sponsoring terrorism, who among them has admitted sponsorship of terrorism, I don't think you know more than the US that knew where their attackers were from

Sorry for debating with you.