Ninejaywon:



Let me now shock you. A man even at the age of 55 is still in prime in as much as he keeps himself in good shape and adopt a healthy lifestyle. A man at 90 can still breed healthy kids.

Come up with something else, that down syndrome excuse is too lame. I know men in their 40s down to their 70s with healthy children and not even one has down syndrome.

Ninejaywon:



Let me now shock you. A man even at the age of 55 is still in prime in as much as he keeps himself in good shape and adopt a healthy lifestyle. A man at 90 can still breed healthy kids.

Come up with something else, that down syndrome excuse is too lame. I know men in their 40s down to their 70s with healthy children and not even one has down syndrome.

tensazangetsu20:


True but generational poverty is worst than down syndrome. One of Femi otedola's kids has down syndrome and he has a much a brighter future than 95 percent of Nigerians.

Magnoliaa:



Na only women dey get biological clock oh. Nahhhh. Ya ignorant, dear. Men don't hit a wall, they don't expire and they don't have 'prime years.' They can even continue firing at age 160. Kikikikiki.

cococandy:

I’m not asking people to get married if they are broke and can’t sustain a family.

Mindlog:


Old sperm (Advanced Paternal Age) is a high risk when is comes to certain birth defects.

While working with children with certain neurodevelopmental disorders, one of the key questions that must be asked is the age of the child's biological father.

tensazangetsu20:

Most of the guys desperate for marriage are very broke unemployed or underemployed guys.

cococandy:


There’s no stat to prove this. Younger guys who are doing well also marry in a timely fashion.

Like you said it’s an issue if one can’t support a family but wants to create one. I agree with that part.

But it’s not true that the majority of men who want to marry early are only the broke ones. If anything, money has been a deterrent to their marriage goals.

cococandy:


They have no desire to learn. You’re wasting your time

tensazangetsu20:

Maybe but then how many young people in Nigeria are doing well. How many jobs exist in Nigeria. How many pay a livable wage?

A lot of guys believe some super blessings will be unlocked by marriage which isn't so.

Realistically speaking based on data available, Nigeria will produce more poor people over the years than wealthy people

KevinDein:

You got jokes though. No one's learning biological sciences on nairalands family section, a section renowned for its bias. Pretty much every information is just a couple of Google clicks away.
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A recent landmark study identified that the number of single gene de-novo mutations in the offspring increased by two mutations per year based on paternal age. Additionally, advanced paternal age has been linked with neurocognitive disorders such as autism and schizophrenia. For the management of hypogonadism, strategies using selective estrogen modulators have been increasingly utilized to maintain fertility potential.

KevinDein:

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Many other studies have reported a positive correlation between increasing male age and DNA damage [6,89]. Using DNA fragmentation Index (DFI) as an index to measure DNA damage/fragmentation, Moskovtsev et al. reported that in comparison to age group <30, age group which was ≥ 45 had twice the DFI (15.2% vs. 32.0%). DFI levels for 30–35, 35–40 and 40–45 were found out to be 19.4%, 20.1% and 26.4% respectively [6].

Similar results were shown in a study conducted by Singh et al. in which it was shown that the percentage of highly damaged DNA sperm in age group 36–57 years was significantly higher compared to the age group 20–35 years [89]. In another study involving 215 couples, it was shown that sperm DNA damage doubled from paternal age of 25 to 55 years [90]. A positive association was reported between DFI and increasing paternal age [89-91]. In a group of men with normozoospermia, the DFI level increased by 5% in age group ≥40 compared to age group ≤40. A similar trend was seen in a group of men with oligoasthenoteratozoospermia in which age group of ≥40 had 8% higher DFI levels compared to age group ≤ 40 years [89]. Barroso et al. proposed that the association between DNA fragmentation and advanced paternal age is present due to sperm chromatin defects [92].

KevinDein:

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The study, which reviewed 40 years of research on the effect of parental age on fertility, pregnancy and the health of children, was published in the journal Maturitas.

"While it is widely accepted that physiological changes that occur in women after 35 can affect conception, pregnancy and the health of the child, most men do not realize their advanced age can have a similar impact," said study author Gloria Bachmann, director of the Women's Health Institute at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.

While the medical profession has no clearly accepted definition of when advanced paternal age begins -- it ranges from 35 to 45 -- infants born to fathers over 45 have risen 10 percent in the United States over the past 40 years, likely due to assisted reproductive technology.

The study found that men 45 and older can experience decreased fertility and put their partners at risk for increased pregnancy complications such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia and preterm birth. Infants born to older fathers were found to be at higher risk of premature birth, late still birth, low Apgar scores, low birth weight, higher incidence of newborn seizures and birth defects such as congenital heart disease and cleft palate. As they matured, these children were found to have an increased likelihood of childhood cancers, psychiatric and cognitive disorders, and autism.

KevinDein:

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Motility

In contrast to concentration, evidence consistently indicates that sperm motility decreases with advancing age. Studies that adjusted for duration of abstinence revealed statistically significant decreases in motility of 0.17% to 0.6% decrease per year of age21,24 resulting in a 3% to 12% decline in motility over 20 years. More recently, Sloter and colleagues used computer-assisted semen analysis in a population of 90 men aged 22 to 80 years with no history of infertility. Motility decreased 0.8% per year of age and linear motion decreased 0.2% per year.25

Because motility is acquired during sperm transit through the prostate and the epididymis, the decrease in motility is suspected to be due to age-related decline in the function of these posttesticular glands.12 Age-dependent alterations of the epididymis may also cause alterations in sperm mitochondrial functioning, which is paramount for sperm motility.26

Morphology

Similar to motility, morphology appears to decrease with advancing male age. Studies indicate declines in normal sperm morphology of 0.2% to 0.9% per year of age, resulting in a 4% to 18% decrease in normal morphology over a 20-year period.21,23,27 It is important to recognize the limitations in comparing sperm morphology data across studies secondary to differences in morphology criteria used by different investigators.

Seminal Volume

Evidence suggests there is a mild decrease in seminal volume with increasing age, although the clinical significance of this finding is marginal. The decrease in volume may be related to seminal vesicle insufficiency because seminal vesicle fluid composes most of the ejaculate volume.12,18 Prostatic changes, including smooth muscle atrophy, may also affect semen volume and sperm motility.

The reports showing a decrease in volume have only identified a modest change of 0.15% to 0.2% per year of age. This accumulates to a 3% to 4% decrease in seminal volume over a 20-year period.23,24 Other large population-based studies have shown no difference in volume with age.19,22 Most data suggest that the most pronounced changes occur in men aged > 45 years. Semen volume drops from a median of 2.80 mL in those aged 45 to 47.8 years to 1.95 mL in men aged > 56.6 years.20,28

Acidosis:


Why can't a broke man get married? I need one genuine reason.

tensazangetsu20:

Forget what goes on online. A lot of men offline are very desperate for marriage and dating. I think its lack of achievement in all spheres so in order not to be totally useless they be like let me get married at least that's an achievement but in reality thats suicide.

pocohantas:


Redpillers unfollowed this thread.

laidenews:
Men desperate for marriage?
I thought it's the opposite.
What I often read on here is men claiming women are the desperate lots and they won't allow Nigeria ladies tie them down with marriage.

pocohantas:


They only mask it better. Forget all these kids on Nairaland. If you have responsible male friends that are in their 30s and stable, go close to them and hear story.

Men and women desire marriage. Most men at some point want to come home to a wife, home-cooked meals and his kids. Which is not a bad thing. It is okay to desire marriage, it is beautiful thing when done right.

If you make mistake and visit Naija guy, cook egusi soup and semo for him. Serve him when he is back from work. He is already seeing you pregnant with twins. The only thing wey fit delay am be say e no get money or e no wan marry you. When men are ready, they are ready! If you try to slow them down, they will leave you and marry another in 3 months. They don’t call it desperation, they call it “knowing what they want”. They tell you that they are no more kids that play games.

If you want to enjoy men, meet them at that stage.

tensazangetsu20:


This is true sha. It's not just 30 year old and above men. I know guys in their 20s dying to get married
. If they aren't in a relationship they want to die, they can't stay single or keep to themselves but they come online to claim hard guy.

cococandy:
so they should marry after their prime? Does that make sense to you?

Do you know the risk for Down syndrome in babies increases with the father’s age?

tensazangetsu20:


This is true sha. It's not just 30 year old and above men. I know guys in their 20s dying to get married
. If they aren't in a relationship they want to die, they can't stay single or keep to themselves but they come online to claim hard guy.

Arsenate:

Because the increase is basically a jump from 0.1% likelihood in younger men to around 0.6% likelihood in older men. You'll probably scour your entire village and you still won't find a 60 year old dad birthing a down syndrome baby.

Not as huge of a deal as some on here will have you believe.

tensazangetsu20:


True but generational poverty is worst than down syndrome. One of Femi otedola's kids has down syndrome and he has a much a brighter future than 95 percent of Nigerians.

cococandy:


It’s because our traditional idea of marriage is ONLY for men to get their “successors”. That’s why if they don’t have children, they don’t respect the marriage as well as if they did. In that case you can’t be getting married if you’re broke. Because who’s going to sustain those offspring that’s the sole purpose of your union?

When more people marry for companionship they will start to realize that two poor people can get married if they can care for their own financial needs at the moment without adding innocent kids into the mix to suffer unnecessarily.

Klass99:


You nailed the question Acid asked, perfectly!

Seven blessings to you and much respect

@ Vision101, your take on this matter is klassic, I like it.

Acidosis:


Well said, Coco. Without kids in the mix, marriage between two poor people should never be a problem. Staying single is not going to alleviate their condition anyway.

By the way, if sex and companionship can drain a married man financially, a single guy won't be spared either. Most of these guys even have more sex and, of course, with more women than the married guy.

Even the idea of raising kids is no longer peculiar with married people. There are more poor single men with kids and baby mamas these days. The only difference between them and the poor married men with kids is that while the former is populated with largely irresponsible touts (who don't care about baby food and school fees), more men in the other category struggle day in day out to ensure the survival of their children.

Tobichuks08:

You should be very ashamed of yourself, has poverty eaten so deep in you that you have no value for yourself not to talk of others...

Marriage is desired by both genders because every human crave for companionship..
Some come early some come late.

Some marry early and some late and this is all about some personal choices and we all should respect it..

If critically analysed the guys that are poor with kids but enjoying thier marriage can be having a better life than the ones who are still single and trying to aquire all those riches.

which at the end of the day they end up being just financially stable.
Not rich and not wealthy..

Op just because you are single and think your better off, bro your not.
The poor dude has a heir who will probably stand on his grave and you don't.
Life is complex let's all strive to enjoy our choices and respect others regardless of thier present condition