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Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by KnownUnknown: 10:58pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
DeepSight: No, change itself gives rise to time. If there is no relative motion/movement then there is no time. A day is a measurement of the earth's revolution (change) around it's axis which continually aligns part of the surface to the sun. That change and a couple of others give rise to time. If these changes do no occur, there is no time. DeepSight: Those are claims with no backing. Describe this self existent infinite time. DeepSight: You have to explain this real time as opposed to relativity in order to advance your idea. DeepSight: The probability that an Ant or an house fly do not experience time like I do does not advance your argument one bit. You can't just make unsubstantiated claims and ask someone to reflect. Reflect on what? You should reflect on the hyperspace embedded in a quadrilateral time differential which gives rise to gravity. DeepSight: I'm ominpresent. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 11:33pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Justcool describes what I mean properly here - https://www.nairaland.com/775552/speed-light-time-einstein-extra-universal#9318086 And his two succeeding posts on same. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by KnownUnknown: 12:04am On Jan 31, 2022 |
DeepSight: The person did not say anything but repeat “real time” that everyone “intuitively knows”. The time that everyone knows is the one that’s dictated by the sun. Then there are the theories of relativity which have been put to practical use. Real time on the other hand would fit in with the grail message where they astral travel to la la land. “The vacuum where things happen” known as real time could exist. It’s even similar to Newton’s space but relativity has proved better at describing spacetime. You didn’t answer the more important self existent question. By the way, the universe (including us) is the self existent entity if there needs to be one, and we see the self existence play out everyday in the dynamism of nature. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by KnownUnknown: 12:18am On Jan 31, 2022 |
DeepSight: You always rightly criticize that one physicist’s idea of “nothing” because it involves a vacuum but the idea supports your cosmology. The universe could have sprung out of the vacuum of infinite real time, which has infinite possibilities. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 12:22am On Jan 31, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Beautiful! - very very close to exactly how I see it! - Save that infinite real time is not nothing either! |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by KnownUnknown: 12:34am On Jan 31, 2022 |
DeepSight: But keep in mind that his vacuum is part of the universe not independent of it. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 9:20am On Jan 31, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: And could that reasonably be the case? A vacuum which is the source of the universe and still part of the universe? Is that not contradictory? At all events, bear in mind of course, that no such perfect vacuum is observed anywhere. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by KnownUnknown: 11:55am On Jan 31, 2022 |
DeepSight: You are the one claiming the universe resides in vacuum of real time. I’m just pointing at the similarity of his virtual particles in a vacuum to your claims. His claims about the vacuum being “nothing” is the issue anyone would have with his claims. You are the one who should bear in mind that the real time vacuum doesn’t exist or you haven’t done anything but made claims based on credulity. Explain how the real time is self existent maybe we will get somewhere. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by LordReed(m): 1:10pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
TammieJo: Fortunately and unfortunately we are no longer merely subject to natural evolution, we have began to take a hand in our own evolution. Aside from extinction level events I doubt the human race will go quietly. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by LordReed(m): 1:14pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
DeepSight: But you reject the idea that the universe is expanding into what is undefined. Lemme ask you is darkness nothing? |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 1:20pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
LordReed: This question is frighteningly close to our contention on the nature of a shadow, such that I am afraid and must flee the question. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Nobody: 2:03am On Feb 20, 2022 |
AuthenticKing: Can you help me with any amount of money? Life Doesn't Make Sense Because Of The Way Living Things Just Get Exposed Anyhow Towards No Purpose For As Long As Possible |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Nobody: 2:06am On Feb 20, 2022 |
DeepSight: Darkness is not nothing.... the universe doesn't exist. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by orisa37: 5:46am On Feb 20, 2022 |
ATHEISM IS SUPERSTITION. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Nobody: 10:03pm On Feb 20, 2022 |
Crystyano: Hmm, is this actually a request or...? Crystyano:I followed one of your threads and I think you're having a cynical view on life. You having a belief that living things get exposed anyhow towards no purpose is a perspective I think you should get rid of. Since life started existing millions of years ago, man has been the only living being that has been able to develop critical thinking, get past the use of sign language and develop languages and modes of speaking, etc. We are the dominating beings on this planet! Since then till now, so many have stood out to create things that keeps changing the world. Brother, life makes sense! Find a profession that you love and get lost in it. Find pleasure in doing things that you really enjoy. Experience the downsides too and laugh at them. In the perceived 'uselessness' of life, you can make sense of it by just experiencing it and finding something significant that can make life worth living. When I wonder about man came to become the dominating beings on this planet, it brings a sense of gratitude in me for the forces that made us survive amidst all the dangerous creatures that evolved with us. When I read about great people of the historical times, I try to find meaning by modeling their lives. It's sometimes frustrating, maybe when my mind begins to wonder how these things will end at death or when I don't find a tribe to share my energy with, but it's still fun at the same time. I don't know whether what I wrote above was a necessary response to what you wrote but I just felt like typing it. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Nobody: 12:38pm On Feb 21, 2022 |
AuthenticKing: Indeed....a request. I started working as a part-time teacher towards the end of September last year..... towards Maths,Physics and Further Maths. It's just been about surviving. As it stands...., I need an apartment... last year ended so badly for me. Last month..., I had to leave one school for another.... indefinitely. I started working in the other school after a week. I'm also thinking of releasing some rap songs. As for life...., I don't think the things that differentiate humans from other living things are enough for it to make sense The increase in population of humans doesn't mean it is well among or towards humans The exposure just happens. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Nobody: 3:37pm On Feb 27, 2022 |
Crystyano:The worst reply I could give now is to start sounding like a motivational speaker. Your story is quite pathetic, I really wish I could help but I'm also in a tight corner for now, I wrote in the Op that I still live with my parents because of some reasons, I come here at nairaland to release thoughts that are bothering me deeply but I'm in a hustle mode too. I wish I could help but giving you small amounts like 2k won't even solve up to a quarter of the issues you outlined above. As I wrote in the beginning of this reply, sounding as a motivational speaker won't help but I hope you find a way around the issues you're going through. All I could say to you is to just to try to find a good part of your situation (even if it's little), think of your past accomplisments, that could give you hope that you ain't a failure and show you possibilities that could be used to your advantage. I really hope that helps. Crystyano:See these thoughts of yours as personal opinions lingering in your heart not facts. Try to look around and find those finding meaning in their lives, read books that could make you see things from different perspectives. Life fit begin dey sweet you. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by UsamaRafiq: 1:54pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:03pm On Feb 21 |
Hello here, this is my first time of posting. What do you mean by inspiring metaphors? I don't think you're a freethinker cos a freethinker should have an opinion of his own - conclusion of a belief |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:06pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: Not necessarily. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:17pm On Feb 21 |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:22pm On Feb 21 |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:27pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: Can you trust or listen to an indecisive person? You sabi wetin u de yan? |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:30pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: A freethinker does not require your trust or confidence. Perhaps you are missing or ignoring the word "free" in "freethinker." |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:33pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: What do you benefit from an indecisive person? How does he benefit himself? Is that not irrational? |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:38pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: A freethinker does not claim to be providing any benefit to anyone. But honestly, clarity and humility are to be gained from the freethinker who admits that we know diddlysquat. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:44pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: Clarity? From an indecisive person? |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:48pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: It is clarity to know that we know not. Now, you can keep exciting yourself by calling the freethinker indecisive. But that is not the defining quality of a freethinker. The defining qualities of a freethinker are free thought and an open mind not shackled to any given dogma. For you, a person must show "decisiveness" by making up his mind on existential/ spiritual/ religious questions. Little do you know that many existential questions are beyond our paygrade. The slavish adherent to orthodoxy may well be "decisive" in his ignorant instinct to accpt whatever he is told. But it is far more enlightened to recognize that there is much that is unknowable. |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 2:53pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: An open minded person should be able to draw reasonable conclusions too. No body, even Christians belive they know all Another word for freethinker [b]based on your descriptio[/b]n is irrational Anything to gain from such person? |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by DeepSight(m): 2:57pm On Feb 21 |
Aemmyjah: I cant see what there is to gain from continuing a discussion with one who violently twists things. How does my description of the freethinker lead to your conclusion that another word for freethinker is "irrational?" You are a lazy and frightened thinker. You dont even recognize that the freethinker does not necessarily reject the existence of God. There are many freethinkers who believe in God but are simply not shackled to religion. Secondly by "reasonable conclusions" it appears you really mean "agree with you." One more time - the freethinker does not hold himself out as offering you "anything to gain." |
Re: Freethinkers How Do You Manage Living In A Country That Believes In Superstition by Aemmyjah(m): 3:47pm On Feb 21 |
DeepSight: A freethinker should come to a rational conclusion Anything less is irrational |
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