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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by 9japride(m): 11:17pm On Feb 04, 2022
It's funny how people take side with evil countries so as to topple the USA from world power, but yet they won't think twice to travel to USA or Canada. If you so much love those evil countries why don't you guys travel there to enjoy the toughness of leadership. Same in Nigeria too, people will support evil people to power then after elections they run away to developed countries to enjoy life. Smh

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:19pm On Feb 04, 2022
You are right, but its does not mean USA is totally invincible, its enemies could exploit weaknesses from within, or surprise attacks, or at a time its most vulnerable.

USA could be impacted by tsunamis, an explosive eruption of the yellow stone reawakening volcano, it could also be impacted by internal war between its peoples or EMP attack that will shut down some of its electrical grids, may also be vulnerable to hacking, China and Russia, have both been prying into its weaknesses, and if they consolidate their efforts or coordinate it, it could be fatal.

But does not mean China is not a potent threat.

China has made a symbolic statement with the launch of it artificial sun, which is said to be hotter than the sun, i am not aware about its operational duration, and where its is placed, or its size.

But the rising of Nations starts from symbolisms. Now the saying that the Sun rises from the earth is fulfilled symbolically

tolue42:


You're right , but still far off brother ..

Other thing to consider is US have military base across the world, Guan, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Qatar ETC, so US don't even need to lunch from mainland.

But can you say thesame of Russia and China

US military base are well placed across the globe.. Imagine GUAM beside North Korea, less than 3500 killometers just to be checkmating what Kim Jong-un is doing , while US president is busy in the white House doing something else.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by frankson1(m): 11:20pm On Feb 04, 2022
Henri8:

Why then is the US in NATO and and dragging them towards Russia. It should have gone it alone.




Don't mind the US. They want to increase their presence all over. If Ukraine joins NATO it means that the US will now be at the Russian's back-yard which is what Putin don't want.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by NOETHNICITY(m): 11:23pm On Feb 04, 2022
StayMotivated:
2 countries they join head to fight cold war with 1 country. I thought they said Russia will destroy USA? Why them come dey collabo with China?
You saying they are fighting only 'one country' shows ur level of education. If you study more you will quickly find out that the US and it's western and asian allies with whom they are battling china, russia and iran are more than 30countries put together. Make una read una no gree read
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by SeriouslySense(m): 11:24pm On Feb 04, 2022
We are not sure, i only speculate, nothing is fixed in our understanding yet, maybe you are right though.

Vickyvice:
am talking about the rival kings in the time if the end.... I mean shortly or just before kingdom of God removes man made government.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by TheGreatIYANU: 11:24pm On Feb 04, 2022
frankson1:





You stated the fact bro. Russia doesn't want th US to add Ukraine to NATO because, US will move to the Russian's back-yard which would be bad for Moscow.

The only reason the US is so interested in adding Ukraine is to be very close to Russia and nothing more.

Leave these political zombies alone grin

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Minjim: 11:27pm On Feb 04, 2022
Alliance of dictators
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Winters23: 11:33pm On Feb 04, 2022
Vickyvice:
dull people are known for making blank statements, without veryfying facts first. You are a dunce, lazy person,full time bastard

There's nothing factual about religion, it all depends on faith and belief
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Minjim: 11:34pm On Feb 04, 2022
Proudlyngwa:
I stand with China and Russia.
The days of that Agbaya called US is gradually coming to an end.

Quote me and get educated.

You are comparing a democracy to an alliance of dictators

Common sanctions from the US and Europe Russia will start begging.

Can Russia and China take on the rest of the world?
You opened your mouth calling the US agbaya but if given visas of the 3 countries we all know the one you will choice - hypocrites !

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Emperor88(m): 11:46pm On Feb 04, 2022
Proudlyngwa:
I stand with China and Russia.
The days of that Agbaya called US is gradually coming to an end.

Quote me and get educated.

Don't believe that US figures you see up there... They have many secret dangerous weapons, machinery... They will outrun both countries when proper walls start. And they have many puppets who would support in different ways.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Proudlyngwa(m): 12:38am On Feb 05, 2022
Minjim:


You are comparing a democracy to an alliance of dictators

Common sanctions from the US and Europe Russia will start begging.

Can Russia and China take on the rest of the world?
You opened your mouth calling the US agbaya but if given visas of the 3 countries we all know the one you will choice - hypocrites !
First and foremost,I am not interested in a US visa, I lost that interest 18 yrs ago.


US has been sanctioning countries,and nothing changed, if u are not a major oil supplier, nothing do you.


And not all the world stands with US, certainly not India, Brazil, Cuba , Syria, Venezuela and a host more

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Proudlyngwa(m): 12:40am On Feb 05, 2022
Emperor88:


Don't believe that US figures you see up there... They have many secret dangerous weapons, machinery... They will outrun both countries when proper walls start. And they have many puppets who would support in different ways.

Guy forget western Propaganda,

US could not do shit in Aghfanistern.
Russia will just laff at them while drinking Vodka
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Minjim: 12:41am On Feb 05, 2022
Proudlyngwa:

First and foremost,I am not interested in a US visa, I lost that interest 18 yrs ago.


US has been sanctioning countries,and nothing changed, if u are not a major oil supplier, nothing do you.


And not all the world stands with US, certainly not India, Brazil, Cuba , Syria, Venezuela and a host more

Were you ever interested in a Russian or Chinese visa?

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Minjim: 12:43am On Feb 05, 2022
Proudlyngwa:


Guy forget western Propaganda,

US could not do shit in Aghfanistern.
Russia will just laff at them while drinking Vodka


What exactly do you want the US to do in Afghanistan, Kill all Afghans?


The US won the war but couldn't convince the people to embrace democracy.

Who's the loser now?

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Proudlyngwa(m): 12:46am On Feb 05, 2022
Minjim:


What exactly do you want the US to do in Afghanistan, Kill all Afghans?


The US won the war but couldn't convince the people to embrace democracy.

Who's the loser now?

Won which war, against Afghanistan or against the taliban
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Panda7(m): 1:01am On Feb 05, 2022
so, unlike Africa what these leaders do is sit down and sketch war maps, over 4 million people in war front making wars.. interesting
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by obedience4(m): 1:17am On Feb 05, 2022
You are asking which war the united States ever won..
Have you heard about the two gulf wars..who defeated the Japan in the Pacific war in WW2.. In the unites States didn't enter the war.. The whole of Europe will be speaking German today... The Soviet union.. Which was stringer was decimated by the Germans... The united States liberated Asia from the the terror of the Japanese.. China was defeated by the japs.. The united States is the only battle tested country.. The Chinese that haven't fought one war in over 100 years.. The war you people think the us lost in Afghan is not a conventional war.. As sadamm Hussain of Iraq what happened to him..

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by t2luv1: 2:02am On Feb 05, 2022
Proudlyngwa:
I stand with China and Russia.
The days of that Agbaya called US is gradually coming to an end.

Quote me and get educated.

Russia is a big gas station in the arctic that's all they are. Take away oil Russia ain't got nothing. As for China, they are still 10 years from the USA level. Only one country has the military power to project force in both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Paperbag(m): 2:11am On Feb 05, 2022
DREAMZZZ:
If e sure for putin invade Ukraine......
Show us say u strong, Hitler no do any bragging him no join any alliance him just invade Poland,him walk the talk...putin should walk the talk if e sure for am

Boss no be say ...
If e sure for usa make them join Ukraine for nato and see what putin go use them eye see
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Paperbag(m): 2:17am On Feb 05, 2022
Freestainworld:
They are forming alliance, maybe they think USA stands alone, let them attack Ukraine and see who got the strongest alliance.

Oya make them add Ukraine to nato nah..
Simple as that ..putin level Ukraine in minutes them , he got the whole of europe in his hands as he supplies them 80% of gas to them .

No body wan die of cold so they wont lift a finger on russia if it starts
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Paperbag(m): 2:22am On Feb 05, 2022
uunwanaobong3:
This bad news for the west....... Only this two communist Nation will level the entire western civilization with just a few hypersonic missiles.

Ukraine should trade carefully because USA is pushing them to war, and when the entire Ukraine is destroyed USA and other western NATO nation will run away just as they did in Afghanistan..... USA are cowards, they have never won or finished any war.... They always ran away.

Lol ...before usa mobilize and go to any war the weigh their options and gain , if they run away or dont finish a war bros look deep and you will find out the have achieved their aim already ...

Many wars where created by them like afghan and co to get what they want ...remember that year what they did to heroshima and co ? No single building was left standing , they can wipe any country out if dem want to ..noting like running

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by nagalee(m): 2:59am On Feb 05, 2022
uunwanaobong3:
This bad news for the west....... Only this two communist Nation will level the entire western civilization with just a few hypersonic missiles.

Ukraine should trade carefully because USA is pushing them to war, and when the entire Ukraine is destroyed USA and other western NATO nation will run away just as they did in Afghanistan..... USA are cowards, they have never won or finished any war.... They always ran away.
who told you so?
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by nagalee(m): 3:09am On Feb 05, 2022
ButterBurger:
I know that one before.
But na U S still be their papa.
Dem no fit come.
If they can, at least they already have reasons to attack first, afterall nobody wey senior them wan report to, to settle matters
so make dem attack America na if dem sure of themselves.
Dem go hear wen
Dem go beg
Make dem ask Japan.
U.S still no relent .
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by nagalee(m): 3:16am On Feb 05, 2022
Calibrator:
Most people don't know that the freedom of speech that is empowering them to write and talk trash against the USA is proudly sponsored by the same USA worldwide.


If Germans had won WWII, you lots would have known what's up.


USA for all its fault is still the lesser evil of the three.

Russia and China will take away your rights and privileges and censor anything censorable.


Democracy still trumps dictatorship any day anytime twice on a weekend.
True talk. USA is the lesser evil of the three nations. China is the worst.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Gertyman: 3:56am On Feb 05, 2022
OhBritannia:
if we go with your graph then it terms of war, the united states of America with her alliances will still defeat Russia and China.
If you look at the graph of the most powerful militaries above.
The USA is in alliance from number four country down to the last.
So next time add the nukes and war weapons from the number 4 countries down below with that of USA and let's see who will shiit on their pants.

Even his Nuke information is not correct. the OP does not even know that there exists a difference between actively operational and deployed Nuclear warheads and the overall numbers of nukes.

If he adds both active warhead and non-active warhead together, the difference in nukes between Russia and US is less than 600. They both have nearly the same numbers of actively deployed warheads, which was the reason they both agreed to cut down their active warheads in the START treaty.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Reference(m): 3:59am On Feb 05, 2022
MangekyoAlt:

USA just made an enemy out of the two most powerful countries that are closely behind them if not even already equal. The arrogance of America would bring about their downfall. They think they will remain world power forever and ever lol. If they don't get humiliated in this our current generation, it will be the next. There's no escaping from it


Ogbeni shut up and stop talking trash. during the cold war did USA not create NATO just to stand a chance against the soviet union? they created an alliance of more than 11 countries ( Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom, and the United States ) just to counter Soviet union. Now Russia and china just team up for once to counter USA and you're here talking trash. abeg mk we hear word


If he sure USA, add Ukraine to NATO now now and see if Russian Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles don't start landing in Washington DC. Putin didn't tell you he's gonna invade ukraine. its the western propaganda machine websites that have been claiming so. all what putin said is there will be a war if us adds ukraine to Nato. so my brother, USA should add Ukraine now now lets see what will happen

But half the world including folks like you will still run to America and 'the West' for refuge or relaxation fearing no 'rain of nukes' rather than to sojourn in the 'Almighty Russia and even the 'benevolent' China which few consider a proper country outside its economic attractions. i.e just for business, QED, simply because these countries continue to look at foreigners 'with deep suspicion' and continue to view every foreigner through the eyes of the invader.

And you want to know why. The trauma of the past 100 years when Russia was invaded by the Third Reich and suffered tremendously in the hands of Adolph Hitler and when China was invaded, occupied and devastated by the Japanese Empire. One can understand why they are traumatized at not being the biggest dogs in the neighborhood.

Now if not for the participation of the vilified 'West' in the Second World war, particularly the United States, both countries will today have been colonies of the great imperial powers of times past. So they should just relax. NATO is not seeking to overrun Russia or forcing its former soviet states to join its alliance and America is only interested in the liberties of the peoples of Taiwan as a small island nation lost by China during its occupation by Japan.

Both nations should overcome their trauma and find something useful to benefit all humanity with their considerable resources so that their nations can become the gold standard for life and living.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Reference(m): 4:08am On Feb 05, 2022
Paperbag:


Oya make them add Ukraine to nato nah..
Simple as that ..putin level Ukraine in minutes them , he got the whole of europe in his hands as he supplies them 80% of gas to them .

No body wan die of cold so they wont lift a finger on russia if it starts

Nobody is forcing anyone to join NATO.
The last time I checked, Ukraine does not even pass muster as a potential NATO partner as there are several criteria.
Rather it is Ukraine bid all these years that has alarmed Russia.

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Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Gertyman: 4:15am On Feb 05, 2022
Kenn55:
The reason why America has not been toppled today is because the alternative is more dangerous. Russia and China should ask themselves, why do countries that border them that naturally should be close to them like to align with America and the west instead? Why? The answer to that question will help them solve the problem from the root.

The answer to that question is simple. Nobody on earth wants to live under authoritarianism. The only people who fancy it are those in power and lording over others. Putin has seen the back of 4 US presidents from Clinton to Trump. Is he the only wise man in Russia? Which progressive country will like to align with a one man country with absolute powers?

Despite how bleeped up Nigeria is, the freedom in Nigeria is a million times better than what you have in Russia and China. At least every 4 years , Nigerians have the opportunity to make their voices heard. People can criticize the Government without having to be disappeared like in China or poisoned like in Russia.

You can't build alliance by force as Russia and China wants to do with Taiwan and Ukraine.
The west is very attractive because they are an open society. If Russia and China wants to topple America then build an open society and see the west fall like a pack of cards cos that is the only thing the west have that Russia and China does not have. But if they think they can coarse countries into their orbit with sheer force, then good luck to them, they are not yet ready.

Chairman, you are just the best with your comment. Someone should remind the Op of 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre for his education.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Gertyman: 4:18am On Feb 05, 2022
Meninmen:
First, I think the US economy is the largest economy in the world by GDP, not China's economy.

The US economic and military might, together with that of it's allies is far greater than the economic and military strength of Russia and China combined.

Russia and China alliance is an alliance of convenience; Russia wants to have a sphere of influence over countries that were part of the former USSR (especially Ukraine and Poland) while China wants to take over Taiwan. The US and it's allies are preventing their plans from materializing.

But deep down, Russia has deep mistrust of the Chinese, especially because of Chinese reverse engineering of some Russia military technology.

However, no matter the alliance Russia and China forms, they will always be inferior to the US and it's allies for centuries to come!

You are very good and familiar with world and foreign affairs. when some people like the Op wants to be sentimental, they will go and find Article from wrong source, and post them. When did China overtook US as the highest economy in the world in term of GDP? that's where we supose to laugh at him.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Ournolly: 4:21am On Feb 05, 2022
Still nowhere as strong as NATO and they both know it.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by shotuns: 5:29am On Feb 05, 2022
China is broke financially, they won't dare to go to war with their untested tiny soldiers. . It is just a war of the mouth to get recognised as a threat. Even the citizens are angry at XI for tsken away their source of livelihood recently in English Education to eradicate foreign influence on their citizens mainly targetted at the west. They will sacrifice even their own citizen to achive anything. These things you can't see in the News because they control the media. We dey here, we sabi wetin dey happen.
They won't even try to risk the great development experienced in the last 40years to go war. They prefer peace absolutely having witnessed Tianamen uprising in 1989.
As for Russian, they are wiser to trust the Chinese, it is just an alliance for show of pride.
No war is happening anytime soon.
Re: Russia & China Create A 'No Limit' Alliance Amidst Rising Tension In Europe by Nobody: 5:39am On Feb 05, 2022
TheGreatIYANU:


I know we're in a world and generation that adores rhetoric whilst abandoning pragmatism at the feet of political correctness but I refuse to be blindsided.

Quick question sir,,,why did America not allow Soviet nukes be delivered to Cuba? #CubanMissileCrisis

Is America ignorant to the fact that a country can 'acquire whatever goods it so wishes' (in your own words), or the US of A just doesn't like the taste of it's own medicine?

Ps, the US was the aggressor in the aforementioned crisis, delivering nukes to Italy and Turkey... so again I ask, why does the US, hate the taste of its Procold?

.... because the US is the MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

They will never allow Russia or Chinese nuclear weapons in countries close to them but they have weapons in countries that are close to Russia and China. It's not fair right? Life itself is not fair. It is what it is! I know if the table was turned and Russia or China has the military might, economic strength and allies the US have, they will do worse.

PS: Saying the Cuban missile crisis was instigated by the US because they had nukes in Italy and Turkey is not entirely true! The origin of the crisis is more complicated than your simplistic explanation of the cause of the crisis.

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