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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 6:43am On May 05, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The Bible does not make repeatitions of same thing with different names in same verse. This is consistent throughout the scriptures. The words spirit, soul and body are deliberate. Simple English makes you understand that the word and is used to when different and dissimilar things are being considered.

Spirit or soul, and body would have been the right way to put it if both soul and spirit meant the same thing.

Spirit, Soul and Body means Spirit and Soul and Body. Three distinct entities.

The spirit is the life giving force of the soul and body. Where no spirit is, there's no life.

Now, let me explain the creation of the Adam.

Genesis 2:7

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Here in the verse quoted above, we see all three components of man.

1. The body formed from clay.

2. The soul which became a living soul. For something to become alive, it must have previously existed in a non-living state.

3. The breath of life signifying the spirit which transformed both body and soul into a living being.

The body returns to earth at death. Both spirit and soul return to God to be judged for the time spent on earth.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

"Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it."

The dust signifying the body returns to the earth. The spirit which is the habitation of the soul returns to God.

It is the Spirit and the soul that makes a complete man. The body only houses the spirit on earth. The Spirit houses the soul for all eternity.

You still have no Bible verse for the creation and destination of a soul after death. All you have is for spirit.

This still proves that spirit= Soul.

When God breath his spirit in to Adam it brought about a living soul.

When humans die the spirit or soul departs.

Spirit= Soul.

No Bible verse exist that generates the soul except with the spirit.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by RoyalDiadems: 8:35am On May 05, 2022
AntiChristian:


You still have no Bible verse for the creation and destination of a soul after death. All you have is for spirit.

This still proves that spirit= Soul.

When God breath his spirit in to Adam it brought about a living soul.

When humans die the spirit or soul departs.

Spirit= Soul.

No Bible verse exist that generates the soul except with the spirit.

The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by RoyalDiadems: 8:40am On May 05, 2022
AntiChristian:


You still have no Bible verse for the creation and destination of a soul after death. All you have is for spirit.

This still proves that spirit= Soul.

When God breath his spirit in to Adam it brought about a living soul.

When humans die the spirit or soul departs.

Spirit= Soul.

No Bible verse exist that generates the soul except with the spirit.

The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

David prophesied Psalm 16:10:

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

There's no need to start separating spirit and soul in any discussion because it is generally understood that they are conjoined. Except in the context of washing and sanctification where the Holy Spirit wants us to know that all 3 components need to be washed.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 9:38am On May 05, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

David prophesied Psalm 16:10:

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

There's no need to start separating spirit and soul in any discussion because it is generally understood that they are conjoined. Except in the context of washing and sanctification where the Holy Spirit wants us to know that all 3 components need to be washed.

No amount of your extrapolation will change the narration. Produce one clear cut verse that states that soul was created separately from Spirit. In the absence of this, all evidence still bores down to the fact that God created a body and filled it with the Spirit/soul.

In the Psalm verse you quoted, soul can be replaced with Spirit.

Where is your verse that Spirit is conjoined with Soul? Where does this understanding come from?

What God breathed into Adam was the Spirit/Soul which quickened the Earth.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by LordReed(m): 10:04am On May 05, 2022
Speaklove:


PLEASE READ ALL of these carefully

Nope.
My dictionary defines the word "credulous "

"Etymology
Originated in 1576, borrowed from Latin crēdulus, from crēdō ("to believe)
Excessively ready to believe things; gullible. ▼
(obsolete) Believed too readily."

I never said just believe without using your brain -that can led anyone into believeing a lie . God is against foolishness and that's foolishness.

That is not what I meant .

In your own words you wrote
"That is not a recipe for OBTAINING truth."

the bold word "OBTAINING" agrees with my notion that every truth is a product of inspiration and can not be created or formulated by one's independent self .

You could remember I talked about exercising your senses .
Exercising your senses is your own act but that which you put into exercise comes from somewhere else .

For example you spoke about placebo before .I believe you were not born directly with the knowledge of placebo in your head but learnt it from somewhere or some persons or at school or wherever .
But the point is you had to be taught before you knew it .
your choice of using it (placebo) as a basis for argument is an act of your own exercise .

The information was a product of inspiration
But the grasping , of it content came by the exercise of you faculties .

You see!
Every point of argument you've made were all inspired subject and never a 100 percent product of your own mind .
These help to see that man is a receptive and Dependant being that needs inspiration to make a meaning in life .

You might be the one who farmed the food products that you ate today but you weren't the one who produced the seed .
Somebody did and you took that persons product and then put it to work to get a desired result .

There are two major realms of inspiration were men tap from.
1. The natural (or physical )realm
2. The supernatural (or spiritual) realm

To understand the things of the natural realm all you need is to exercise your senses eg.
Mind ,and intellect .
Then reason with your brain to understand them .

But to graps spiritual things it is different.

You have to open your mind (turn your consciousness towards ) the holy spirit and let him fill it with inspiration then you exercise your senses eh.
intellect ,mind ,emotion or intuition to discern what the inspiration you've got means .

Only the holy spirit can teach you spiritual truth ,that's why he is called the spirit of truth
As it is written .
John 16:12-13
[12]“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
[13]However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

You see!
You have to yield your mind to him to get inspiration but the discernment of that inspiration is your own business by exercising you ( soul) senses to discern.

As it is written
Job 32:8
[8]But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.


your arguments or points you've made earlier were all also products of inspiration and you exercise you senses to discern them .
The differences is were the inspiration comes from .
Inspiration comes form etheir the flesh (natural realm )
Or the spirit
(Spiritual realm)

And you have been influenced and even received inspiration from these two realms without knowing.
You a man
And man is like a cup that needs to be filled with water from another source before it can dispense to the mouth of those who thirst.

Your mind is are actually being influenced and inspired from by either what you can see (because they are physical )

Or what you can't see (because they are spiritual ) As it is written

Romans 8:5
[5]Those who live as their human nature tells them to, have their minds controlled by what human nature wants. Those who live as the Spirit tells them to, have their minds controlled by what the Spirit wants.

You see !

You are actually being influenced and inspired .
You can't create a single thing without the inputs of inspiration or influence from another source other than yourself .

But the decision to yield is a product of your own will (exercise) at the beginning .

Truth is a product of facts. You are asking me to believe things that have no accompanying facts, that is the definition of credulity. The words in your bible are not the accompanying facts that would indicate the truth of whatever inspiration you are relying on. Let me assure you I have been very much inspired by the words of the Bible, believing myself to be spoken to by the Holy spirit or Jesus or the god, these are not new things to me. What has not been established is that these inspirations are supernatural or spiritual. Even now as an atheist I continue to be inspired not only by the Bible but many other things but I don't go around saying my thoughts are truth until I can gather facts that establish them as such. Inspiration my dear fellow is not truth.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 11:17am On May 05, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

Where can we find this as explicit as you stated it?
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by Speaklove: 8:41pm On May 05, 2022
LordReed:


Truth is a product of facts. You are asking me to believe things that have no accompanying facts, that is the definition of credulity. The words in your bible are not the accompanying facts that would indicate the truth of whatever inspiration you are relying on. Let me assure you I have been very much inspired by the words of the Bible, believing myself to be spoken to by the Holy spirit or Jesus or the god, these are not new things to me. What has not been established is that these inspirations are supernatural or spiritual. Even now as an atheist I continue to be inspired not only by the Bible but many other things but I don't go around saying my thoughts are truth until I can gather facts that establish them as such. Inspiration my dear fellow is not truth.

I understand sir .
Just like I've mentioned before in one of my posts with you
"All Humans have the tendencies to doubt a thing they don't hear audibly or see visibly .
That's where faith comes in .

Infact it is from these kinds of things that demands for faith before one could get hold of them that
SOME scientists gain ground and opportunity to make claims against religious beliefs because those beliefs demans for faith
before one could walk in their realities .
but these Scientists carry out experiment and then present people with the result of their findings which in turn benefits humans,help develop and sustain the world .

But the thing is:
scientists carry out experiment on natural or physical things and were able to present natural result even though some scientific innovations or inventions are mind blowing and beat human imaginations yet those inventions are all natural and not spiritual.

But spiritual things are deeper .

The greatest material for carrying out spiritual experiment is called "FAITH"
But we don't call it "EXPERIMENT" but faith

Because why experimenting you could doubt but why believing you trust and fight against doubt .

Scientist get fact from natural things through by experimenting
But one that would believe the things of God get hold of fact by EXERCISING faith by taking action .
His faith is proven by the actions he takes
The actions he takes where propelled by the faith he has .

While the scientist believe only after he sees result so he doesn't work by faith but by sight .
There are many things scientist are yet to carry out experiment on
So long they have not experiment those things they can ascertain the truth .

The things of God is spiritual and can not be experimented without faith .
It is faith that leads to the work

But for science it is the result of work that determines faith.

My friend there are many things (apart from spiritual things ) in this world that scientists are yet to discover talkless of experimenting them .
So as we speak NOW !
There are many truth that are not yet fact to science because they are yet to be found .
But those things exist and are true irrespective of whether any scientist or any spiritual person acknowledge there existence or not .

Fact is fact not because you saw it touch it or even believe in it .
NO !
A FACT IS FACT WETHER YOU ACKNOWLEDGE OR BELIEVE IT EXIST OR NOT .
SO THERE ARE MANY FACT THAT YOU CAN ONLY KNOW BY FAITH.

If each man should leave a thousand years in the world and each one is asked to experiment 5 things before they each die
I tell you THERE WOULD STILL BE MANY THINGS THAT WOULD NEVER BE KNOWN TILL THEY ALL DIE .

And those things would only be found by those who have faith in their realities even though they might never see them .

Concluding .
to find out spiritual truth the first thing you need is faith and then faith drive you to work .
what a carnal man sees determines what he would believe .
But unfortunately he would not see everything before he dies .
The amount of the facts he knows are determined by the amount of what his eyes could see ;
thus making him to be incognizant
Of many realities even though they might lie before his very eyes .

But for a spiritual man :
What he believes determines What he sees.
And if he believes a thousand things then he would be able to see them with the eyes of his heart even before he sees them with the physical eyes .

2 Corinthians 5:7
[7]For we walk by faith, not by sight.

Hebrews 11:3
[3]By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

Don't forget the proverb that says
"The more you see the less you know .

Yes it is because you can't see all things
And many things exist more than your physical eyes can see .

I invite you to read the story I wrote in the literature section.
It deals with some of the things we are discussing here .
You will find answers to some of your questions in that story .
Take time to Read the story carefully to the end .
Here is the link below .

https://www.nairaland.com/7089772/testimony-freed-man-two-kingdoms

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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by Speaklove: 7:30pm On May 06, 2022
AntiChristian:


No amount of your extrapolation will change the narration. Produce one clear cut verse that states that soul was created separately from Spirit. In the absence of this, all evidence still bores down to the fact that God created a body and filled it with the Spirit/soul.

In the Psalm verse you quoted, soul can be replaced with Spirit.

Where is your verse that Spirit is conjoined with Soul? Where does this understanding come from?

What God breathed into Adam was the Spirit/Soul which quickened the Earth.

You kept arguing even after he had given you valid explanations .
But sentiment wouldn't allow you to take truth for truth .

1 Thessalonians 5:23
[23]Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole SPIRIT, SOUL, and BODY be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

you have to stop being sentimental if you truly desire to know the truth .
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by Speaklove: 7:45pm On May 06, 2022
AntiChristian:


No amount of your extrapolation will change the narration. Produce one clear cut verse that states that soul was created separately from Spirit. In the absence of this, all evidence still bores down to the fact that God created a body and filled it with the Spirit/soul.

In the Psalm verse you quoted, soul can be replaced with Spirit.

Where is your verse that Spirit is conjoined with Soul? Where does this understanding come from?

What God breathed into Adam was the Spirit/Soul which quickened the Earth.

You know the parts that makes up the human body right ?
Eyes,ears,legs,hands,mouth, etcetera.

But the soul is made up of :
The Mind , the will ,the intellect and the emotion.

In The human spirit lies :the conscience ,the intuition .

You don't think with you spirit but with your mind which is a component of your soul .
That's why you do think about something you don't want to .
You find yourself doing what you never intended to .
These is because you will lies in your soul which is different from you spirit .

You find your soul going at variance with the desires of your spirit .

If your soul and spirit are the same then there wouldn't have been a conflict between the laws of your mind and your actions .

If you claim the soul and spirit are the same then by what do you think ?
Where lies your will ?
Where lies your emotion ?

And then why do you find yourself doing what is against your wish ?

You have to humble yourself and accept this truth for once .
Pay the price and follow the truth
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by Speaklove: 8:02pm On May 06, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

David prophesied Psalm 16:10:

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

There's no need to start separating spirit and soul in any discussion because it is generally understood that they are conjoined. Except in the context of washing and sanctification where the Holy Spirit wants us to know that all 3 components need to be washed.

I went through some of your replies to that fellow "antichristian " and they are excellent .

I have also given him this scripture for support of what you've been saying .

1 Thessalonians 5:23
[23]Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole SPIRIT, SOUL, and BODY be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You did a great job and I even grabbed A new information from what you wrote .
I gained a new understanding concerning the subject of soul and spirit .

I thought it wise to appreciate your effort and patience .
You didn't use abusive words or insult .

And that's something to point out to .

Most Christians would just read and enjoy the discussions without making any effort to contribute to the advancement of such a thing that promotes God's kingdom .
But you sacrificed time ,energy and put in effort to see that those at variance with the message are enlightened .

I want to say a big thank you .

God will see you through and bless you abundantly .in Jesus name .
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by Speaklove: 8:04pm On May 06, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The Spirit houses the Soul. Wherever the Spirit is, that's where the Soul will be. This is the reason why you are confused, not being able to differentiate the one from the other. They're always together but are distinct components of man.

David prophesied Psalm 16:10:

For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

There's no need to start separating spirit and soul in any discussion because it is generally understood that they are conjoined. Except in the context of washing and sanctification where the Holy Spirit wants us to know that all 3 components need to be washed.

I went through some of your replies to that fellow "antichristian " and they are excellent .

I have also given him this scripture for support of what you've been saying .

1 Thessalonians 5:23
[23]Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole SPIRIT, SOUL, and BODY be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You did a great job and I even grabbed A new information from what you wrote .
I gained a new understanding concerning the subject of soul and spirit .

I thought it wise to appreciate your effort and patience .
You didn't use abusive words or insult .

And that's something to point out to .

many Christians would just read and enjoy the discussions without making any effort to contribute to the advancement of such a thing that promotes God's kingdom .
But you sacrificed time ,energy and put in effort to see that those at variance with the message were enlightened .

I want to say a big thank you .

God will see you through and bless you abundantly .in Jesus name .
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 9:00pm On May 06, 2022
Speaklove:


You know the parts that makes up the human body right ?
Eyes,ears,legs,hands,mouth, etcetera.

But the soul is made up of :
The Mind , the will ,the intellect and the emotion.

In The human spirit lies :the conscience ,the intuition .

You don't think with you spirit but with your mind which is a component of your soul .
That's why you do think about something you don't want to .
You find yourself doing what you never intended to .
These is because you will lies in your soul which is different from you spirit .

You find your soul going at variance with the desires of your spirit .

If your soul and spirit are the same then there wouldn't have been a conflict between the laws of your mind and your actions .

If you claim the soul and spirit are the same then by what do you think ?
Where lies your will ?
Where lies your emotion ?

And then why do you find yourself doing what is against your wish ?

You have to humble yourself and accept this truth for once .
Pay the price and follow the truth

Where in the bible was soul and spirit broken down in this way?
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by RoyalDiadems: 3:10pm On May 08, 2022
Speaklove:


I went through some of your replies to that fellow "antichristian " and they are excellent .

I have also given him this scripture for support of what you've been saying .

1 Thessalonians 5:23
[23]Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole SPIRIT, SOUL, and BODY be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You did a great job and I even grabbed A new information from what you wrote .
I gained a new understanding concerning the subject of soul and spirit .

I thought it wise to appreciate your effort and patience .
You didn't use abusive words or insult .

And that's something to point out to .

many Christians would just read and enjoy the discussions without making any effort to contribute to the advancement of such a thing that promotes God's kingdom .
But you sacrificed time ,energy and put in effort to see that those at variance with the message were enlightened .

I want to say a big thank you .

God will see you through and bless you abundantly .in Jesus name .




Amen. Thanks so much for the encouragement. May the Lord bless you too, in Jesus name.

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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by RoyalDiadems: 3:26pm On May 08, 2022
AntiChristian:


Where can we find this as explicit as you stated it?

The subject of the Bible is not a study in spirit, soul and body.

All what the Bible teaches is God's love for man, and His ultimate plan of salvation.

However, you can learn a lot about the 3 components of man as you use scripture to interpret scripture.

The verse in Thessalonians explicitly differentiates them. The analysis of the creation event in Genesis 2 also does justice to the topic.

I have also told you how the Kingdom of God lays its emphasis on man's Spiro while the occult lays emphasis on man's soul.

A lot of studies have been undertaken to unravel this mystery.

Now, let me show you more about this in your own personal life.

The spirit of man is the only part of man that always wants to please God. When the soul is stronger than the spirit, the man walks is total disobedience to God. The Holy Spirit strengthens our spirit to be able to overcome the wilful pressures from the soul.

For example, when you want to do evil, if your spirit is alive, you'll have it cautioning you, but being week, you'll still do the evil anyway and may become remorseful later. And if the spirit is dead, you'll do the evil with reckless abandon. No remorse.

The soul is always on an adventure for itself, while the spirit is seeking always to do the Wil of God.

"The spirit is willing" and it's always willing, but the flesh being under the control of the soul is weak. If the flesh is under the control of the spirit, it will do the will of God.

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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 9:49am On May 09, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


The subject of the Bible is not a study in spirit, soul and body.

All what the Bible teaches is God's love for man, and His ultimate plan of salvation.

However, you can learn a lot about the 3 components of man as you use scripture to interpret scripture.

The verse in Thessalonians explicitly differentiates them. The analysis of the creation event in Genesis 2 also does justice to the topic.

I have also told you how the Kingdom of God lays its emphasis on man's Spiro while the occult lays emphasis on man's soul.

A lot of studies have been undertaken to unravel this mystery.

Now, let me show you more about this in your own personal life.

The spirit of man is the only part of man that always wants to please God. When the soul is stronger than the spirit, the man walks is total disobedience to God. The Holy Spirit strengthens our spirit to be able to overcome the wilful pressures from the soul.

For example, when you want to do evil, if your spirit is alive, you'll have it cautioning you, but being week, you'll still do the evil anyway and may become remorseful later. And if the spirit is dead, you'll do the evil with reckless abandon. No remorse.

The soul is always on an adventure for itself, while the spirit is seeking always to do the Wil of God.

"The spirit is willing" and it's always willing, but the flesh being under the control of the soul is weak. If the flesh is under the control of the spirit, it will do the will of God.

The OT you use is the same one Jews use. They don't believe in your Thessalonians and co! How do they understand the concept of spirit and body?

If you can't tell me where the soul was created separate from the spirit then i think we should end this conversation.
I know you guys are fond of adding salt and pepper to your books. That's why there are many denominations with varying beliefs.

I still maintain that Soul=Spirit. Human=Spirit/Soul + Body.

All those grammar and extrapolations you guys add are erroneously out of your text!
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by enilove(m): 5:01pm On May 09, 2022
AntiChristian:


The OT you use is the same one Jews use. They don't believe in your Thessalonians and co! How do they understand the concept of spirit and body?

If you can't tell me where the soul was created separate from the spirit then i think we should end this conversation.
I know you guys are fond of adding salt and pepper to your books. That's why there are many denominations with varying beliefs.

I still maintain that Soul=Spirit. Human=Spirit/Soul + Body.

All those grammar and extrapolations you guys add are erroneously out of your text!

A soul is not a spirit .

The humans consist of soul spirit and body or flesh.
That is , it consists of three parts and cannot be separated.
For example , a vehicle consists of the body and the engines and neither the engine nor the body can be referred to as a vehicle.

The spirit is what drives the soul.
The spirit can be of God or of the devil.

Without the spirit , the body is dead.

Lastly , the Quran is known to be of various versions with with more than 30 versions.
From the word ''go '' the Quran had been a false book which made Uthmam to order the first version , compiled by Abu bakr , to be set ablaze to hide its discrepancies.

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Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 5:02am On May 10, 2022
enilove:


A soul is not a spirit .

The humans consist of soul spirit and body or flesh.
That is , it consists of three parts and cannot be separated.
For example , a vehicle consists of the body and the engines and neither the engine nor the body can be referred to as a vehicle.

The spirit is what drives the soul.
The spirit can be of God or of the devil.

Without the spirit , the body is dead.
Beautiful lies! Where in your Bible can we find all these exactly as you stated it?

you
Lastly , the Quran is known to be of various versions with with more than 30 versions.
From the word ''go '' the Quran had been a false book which made Uthmam to order the first version , compiled by Abu bakr , to be set ablaze to hide its discrepancies.


This kind of story has been thrashed several times here. It seems the Holy spirit specifically sent you to tell lies here this time.

Bring your evidence with references!
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by RoyalDiadems: 10:25pm On May 11, 2022
AntiChristian:


The OT you use is the same one Jews use. They don't believe in your Thessalonians and co! How do they understand the concept of spirit and body?

If you can't tell me where the soul was created separate from the spirit then i think we should end this conversation.
I know you guys are fond of adding salt and pepper to your books. That's why there are many denominations with varying beliefs.

I still maintain that Soul=Spirit. Human=Spirit/Soul + Body.

All those grammar and extrapolations you guys add are erroneously out of your text!

I understand your ignorant point of view. Spirit, soul and body are concepts widely known and accepted by Jews. The three entities are all available in old testament scriptures.

You need to be very ignorant to say Soul = Spirit. It is the highest order of ignorance. For your information, there's nobody who is schooled in spiritual things ,(both godly and satanic) who does not know these things. Practical experiences differentiating these things also abound in all schools of thought. I found it rather strange that you're disputing a well known fact.

Now, since the Bible didn't mention the time soul was created ( as if both spirit and soul were not distinctly represented in Genesis 2) then soul = spirit. By your kind of logic, since the Bible didn't mention when muscles mind was created, then mind = spirit.

You've chosen to remain solid in your deeply defective convinction. I would no longer continue with you on the topic. But, if you would do yourself the good of extensive research into these things; both in the realms of religion and psychology, you would come back here to read your posts and be ashamed of yourself.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 5:43am On May 12, 2022
RoyalDiadems:


I understand your ignorant point of view. Spirit, soul and body are concepts widely known and accepted by Jews. The three entities are all available in old testament scriptures.

You need to be very ignorant to say Soul = Spirit. It is the highest order of ignorance. For your information, there's nobody who is schooled in spiritual things ,(both godly and satanic) who does not know these things. Practical experiences differentiating these things also abound in all schools of thought. I found it rather strange that you're disputing a well known fact.

Now, since the Bible didn't mention the time soul was created ( as if both spirit and soul were not distinctly represented in Genesis 2) then soul = spirit. By your kind of logic, since the Bible didn't mention when muscles mind was created, then mind = spirit.

You've chosen to remain solid in your deeply defective convinction. I would no longer continue with you on the topic. But, if you would do yourself the good of extensive research into these things; both in the realms of religion and psychology, you would come back here to read your posts and be ashamed of yourself.

No i won't be ashamed of nothing. Even your creation story supports me more than it supports you.

I wonder where you guys get all this extraneous materials outside your book.

Anyways, no be today una don dey leave your book follow words of men.

My submission is God created body from earth material. And breath in one entity which is either called spirit or Soul.

Any other thing you bring is a fallacy.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by expert234: 7:58am On May 12, 2022
AntiChristian:




In the beginning was the Word (logos), and the Word was with God (Theon), and the Word was God (Theos). And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Lolz. You claim to know. Yet, you display ignorance
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 8:02am On May 12, 2022
expert234:


Lolz. You claim to know. Yet, you display ignorance

It would have been better if had just enlightened me.

Jesus was ignorant too when he was asked of the hour in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32.

I am waiting for your schooling Prof.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by expert234: 8:09am On May 12, 2022
AntiChristian:


It would have been better if had just enlightened me.

Jesus was ignorant too when he was asked of the hour in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32.

I am waiting for your schooling Prof.

Are you saying the person Islam called a prophet is ignorant?

Are you now committing apostasy according to Islam Standard?
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 8:18am On May 12, 2022
expert234:


Are you saying the person Islam called a prophet is ignorant?

Are you now committing apostasy according to Islam Standard?

Yes, all Messengers know nothing (of the deen) except what was revealed to them.

Apostasy is disbelieving in any of them in matters established in Islam.
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by expert234: 8:19am On May 12, 2022
AntiChristian:


Yes, all Messengers know nothing (of the deen) except what was revealed to them.

Apostasy is disbelieving in any of them in matters established in Islam.

So, Mohammed is ignorant?
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 8:23am On May 12, 2022
expert234:


So, Mohammed is ignorant?

Say (O Muhammad ): “I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.”
Qur'an 18:110

So we have seen how ignorant you have been all along!
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by expert234: 8:25am On May 12, 2022
AntiChristian:


Say (O Muhammad ): “I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord.”
Qur'an 18:110

So we have seen how ignorant you have been all along!

So, it is Mohamed's ignorance that made him Bleep an underaged girl and took his brother's wife?

What a morally rotten prophet!
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 8:28am On May 12, 2022
expert234:


So, it is Mohamed's ignorance that made him Bleep an underaged girl and took his brother's wife?

What a morally rotten prophet!

I know you'll soon bring your ignorance & foolishness out in full blown!

No wonder your mum was rapped to birth you!

Ezi bida!
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by expert234: 8:47am On May 12, 2022
AntiChristian:


I know you'll soon bring your ignorance & foolishness out in full blown!

No wonder your mum was rapped to birth you!

Ezi bida!

Lolz. Does Islam teach you to dishonour your mother? Is that why other people's mothers have no value in your eyes?

Your comment exposes the make-believe piss ---sorry peace, in Islam cheesy cheesy
Re: My Encounter With Jesus Christ And Conversion To Christianity:part1 by AntiChristian: 8:56am On May 12, 2022
expert234:


Lolz. Does Islam teach you to dishonour your mother? Is that why other people's mothers have no value in your eyes?

Your comment exposes the make-believe piss ---sorry peace, in Islam cheesy cheesy

Since you can abuse someone bigger and more blessed than you generations then i have to start with you somewhere!
I'm just starting!

Person wey hin mama no train from home na outside them go beat am go back!

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