I don't see any reason why negotiation with this destructive sect would work as I see their activities as obeying a kind of divine order. We should be sincere about this, the insurgencies in the north are religious and we should stop explaining it away draped in political colourations. This fact has been confirmed from several videos released and interviews and press releases by the sects. Hear Abubakar Shekau, the leader of the terrorists from a news I read in French and translated thus: ''I TAKE PLEASURE IN KILLING ALL THOSE ALLAH HAS ORDAINED ME TO KILL IN THE SAME WAY THAT I TAKE PLEASURE IN KILLING A HEN OR A RAM''. I know he's talking about Christians and others here who muslims refers to as INFIDELS.

I think Shehu Sani want to milk this Boko Haram palaver for as much derivable publicity as possible. He is waiting for the presidential call before volunteering the so called cure -all useful information that can help save lives? Some of these human rights activists are nothing but unpatriotic elements.

He should tell Datti Ahmed to go to hell! These guys have killed too many to be forgiven and any settlement that excludes deserved punishment for the terrorists will not work. There is no reason why a bunch of fools should unleash unprovoked attacks on law abiding citizens and are then rewarded with "go and sin no more"

It will take time but surely they will be defeated and the unclothedness of the sponsors exposed for world to see.

Kobojunkie:

Thank you o'jare!!! This is what the international world already KNOWS and BOKO HARAM has tried over and over to tell us. Just last week, we saw what some of these elements can do, in places like Mali. Na for Naija we want "negotiate" and sing "Kumbaya" with radical elements who have been indiscriminately blowing people up left and right for at least the last 2 years.

+1000

I've said this before and I'll say it again, we need to be wary of wrong diagnosis. If a man has typhoid and you administer malaria treatment on him, he could die before you know what's going on.


Boko Haram has splintered into many factions. You have the political element (thugs used by politicians to carry out their dirty deeds), you have the common criminals, you have the Yusuf faction and you have the Al-Qaeda faction.

To be fair, Shehu Sanni may mean well, but his claims are exaggerated. He may be in touch with one faction, but it is certainly not the Al-Qaeda faction, which is the most dangerous faction.

The Al-Qaeda faction is not interested in negotiation. They did not spring up because of President Jonathan, neither are they interested in petty politics. They have just one aim, which is to spread their brand of Islam across Nigeria.

Let me make this clear, they are not just interested in taking over Northern Nigeria, they want to take over the whole country and then spread across West Africa and they will kill anyone who opposes them, including Buhari, the Sultan, Babangida or whoever.

The sooner we put aside our differences and realise that Boko Haram is a threat to all Nigerians, the better for us.

We need to reactivate Ecomog and incorporate Cameroun into the group. We need to have troops in Niger, Chad and northern Cameroun, to prevent those places being used as safe havens by Al-Qaeda affiliated groups. The NIA must be more active. Why haven't they arrested the former Mauritanian president that is backing Boko Haram? We need NIA agents across West Africa to monitor and deal with Boko Haram sympathisers.

If we keep going on about our domestic problems and are not united in confronting this problem, then we might just be administering quinine to a typhoid patient and you know what the result will be.

Since GEJ himself knows those behind BH and is not telling us, he may need to accept this kind of offer.

naptu2 is right about d BH fractions in 9ja,d al-qaedia fractions says they wnt negotiate n gave GEJ difficult condition to islamize 9ja while d PDP North fraction wants amnesty to recoup wht theyve lost to al-qaedia hijacked BH they re-ignited in 9ja.ds amnesty they will b used to unsit GEJ gvt. naptu2 is right about d BH fractions in 9ja,d al-qaedia fractions says they wnt negotiate n gave GEJ difficult condition to islamize 9ja while d PDP North fraction wants amnesty to recoup wht theyve lost to al-qaedia hijacked BH they re-ignited in 9ja.ds amnesty they will b used to unsit GEJ gvt.

Bukkyade: Why should he be waiting for a phone call, is he not a Nigerian like us? Let him go ahead to declear this name or does he want an appointment or some reward before he can do that?

lets not be pertubed, they are getting worn and we shall win this battle against the evil enemy with or without dialogue. The shit is the northern elders and populace , unfortunately, know this hell kidz boko and they are doing nothing about it, muffling life out of innocent and helpless people. God is watching o.

naptu2: I've said this before and I'll say it again, we need to be wary of wrong diagnosis. If a man has typhoid and you administer malaria treatment on him, he could die before you know what's going on.


Boko Haram has splintered into many factions. You have the political element (thugs used by politicians to carry out their dirty deeds), you have the common criminals, you have the Yusuf faction and you have the Al-Qaeda faction.

To be fair, Shehu Sanni may mean well, but his claims are exaggerated. He may be in touch with one faction, but it is certainly not the Al-Qaeda faction, which is the most dangerous faction.

The Al-Qaeda faction is not interested in negotiation. They did not spring up because of President Jonathan, neither are they interested in petty politics. They have just one aim, which is to spread their brand of Islam across Nigeria.

Let me make this clear, they are not just interested in taking over Northern Nigeria, they want to take over the whole country and then spread across West Africa and they will kill anyone who opposes them, including Buhari, the Sultan, Babangida or whoever.

The sooner we put aside our differences and realise that Boko Haram is a threat to all Nigerians, the better for us.

We need to reactivate Ecomog and incorporate Cameroun into the group. We need to have troops in Niger, Chad and northern Cameroun, to prevent those places being used as safe havens by Al-Qaeda affiliated groups. The NIA must be more active. Why haven't they arrested the former Mauritanian president that is backing Boko Haram? We need NIA agents across West Africa to monitor and deal with Boko Haram sympathisers.

If we keep going on about our domestic problems and are not united in confronting this problem, then we might just be administering quinine to a typhoid patient and you know what the result will be.

Guy, the Northern establishment can end Boko Haram in two weeks if they are serious about it. It's a promise you can take to the bank. BH are not spirits, they are humans and live within the organic society. They can't survive without support. However, I believe your suggestion in forging a military alliance with our neighbors to prevent replication of BH across borders.

kaeto: lets not be pertubed, they are getting worn and we shall win this battle against the evil enemy with or without dialogue. The shit is the northern elders and populace , unfortunately, know this hell kidz boko and they are doing nothing about it, muffling life out of innocent and helpless people. God is watching o.

You mean the same Northern elders that are themselves affected ?? I remember reading of a Northern politician who was murdered not too long ago by Boko Haram . . is he also one of those you believe can end this?

Look, time you folks start using your heads. Majority of those who are being blown to bits are Northerners(politicians and civilians alike). Sharia law already exists in most all of the States that this group has been attacking . . . we are talking Constitutionally recognized Sharia. Please do not sit here and try to tell us that Northerners are happy that their wives, children, mothers, fathers, etc. are being blown to bits.

This problem is beyond the old men you all continue to sit and blame for it all. You have been blaming the elders and old men for so long now, and in that period, the problem has drastically gotten worse, no OLD men have been arrested since we still have no evidence that any of them is actually involved. Even worse, your President does not seem to understand the magnitude of the problem still. Do we wait until this menace reaches the south before we panic?

i know dt one day, God himself will deliver us from dis BH terrorism.

naptu2: I've said this before and I'll say it again, we need to be wary of wrong diagnosis. If a man has typhoid and you administer malaria treatment on him, he could die before you know what's going on.


Boko Haram has splintered into many factions. You have the political element (thugs used by politicians to carry out their dirty deeds), you have the common criminals, you have the Yusuf faction and you have the Al-Qaeda faction.

To be fair, Shehu Sanni may mean well, but his claims are exaggerated. He may be in touch with one faction, but it is certainly not the Al-Qaeda faction, which is the most dangerous faction.

The Al-Qaeda faction is not interested in negotiation. They did not spring up because of President Jonathan, neither are they interested in petty politics. They have just one aim, which is to spread their brand of Islam across Nigeria.

Let me make this clear, they are not just interested in taking over Northern Nigeria, they want to take over the whole country and then spread across West Africa and they will kill anyone who opposes them, including Buhari, the Sultan, Babangida or whoever.

The sooner we put aside our differences and realise that Boko Haram is a threat to all Nigerians, the better for us.

We need to reactivate Ecomog and incorporate Cameroun into the group. We need to have troops in Niger, Chad and northern Cameroun, to prevent those places being used as safe havens by Al-Qaeda affiliated groups. The NIA must be more active. Why haven't they arrested the former Mauritanian president that is backing Boko Haram? We need NIA agents across West Africa to monitor and deal with Boko Haram sympathisers.

If we keep going on about our domestic problems and are not united in confronting this problem, then we might just be administering quinine to a typhoid patient and you know what the result will be.

Earlier today, I was thinking the exact same thing as the second bolded. We need to expand our military and its capabilities very quickly; we should be capable of carrying out bombing runs in places like Mali, Mauritania, throughout W.Africa and Central Africa. We should be capable of projecting force into N.Africa and taking on any recalcitrant enemies of Nigeria in those states.

It is all well and good that we now build our own armoured personel carriers, bullet proof vests, rifles, patrol boats etc... The real koko is in electronics, IT, satellites and drones. Lets not forget internation hit squads.

I know that under Azazi Nigeria set up some military outposts in Northern W.Africa; but these are not fighting or strike units. It is in Nigeria's interest to use the current ECOWAS interest in Mali to set up a well resourced military base there.
Boko haram should open our eyes to fact that we cannot keep on slacking and rapid development is now a priority.

naptu2: I've said this before and I'll say it again, we need to be wary of wrong diagnosis. If a man has typhoid and you administer malaria treatment on him, he could die before you know what's going on.


Boko Haram has splintered into many factions. You have the political element (thugs used by politicians to carry out their dirty deeds), you have the common criminals, you have the Yusuf faction and you have the Al-Qaeda faction.

To be fair, Shehu Sanni may mean well, but his claims are exaggerated. He may be in touch with one faction, but it is certainly not the Al-Qaeda faction, which is the most dangerous faction.

The Al-Qaeda faction is not interested in negotiation. They did not spring up because of President Jonathan, neither are they interested in petty politics. They have just one aim, which is to spread their brand of Islam across Nigeria.

Let me make this clear, they are not just interested in taking over Northern Nigeria, they want to take over the whole country and then spread across West Africa and they will kill anyone who opposes them, including Buhari, the Sultan, Babangida or whoever.

The sooner we put aside our differences and realise that Boko Haram is a threat to all Nigerians, the better for us.

We need to reactivate Ecomog and incorporate Cameroun into the group. We need to have troops in Niger, Chad and northern Cameroun, to prevent those places being used as safe havens by Al-Qaeda affiliated groups. The NIA must be more active. Why haven't they arrested the former Mauritanian president that is backing Boko Haram? We need NIA agents across West Africa to monitor and deal with Boko Haram sympathisers.

If we keep going on about our domestic problems and are not united in confronting this problem, then we might just be administering quinine to a typhoid patient and you know what the result will be.

^^^^^Gbam!!! thank you my brother. But at the same time if FGN can isolate some of them and deal with others then if could make the die-hard remnants easily manageable or exposed for disposable targets.The criminal BH can be tackled by the police if policing is improved and made efficient.The political can be handled on the table in PDP sec. i hope else the SSS can handle them via anyway.Including covert assassination! while the BH-alQaida version will need co-operation amongst nations(border nations and international counter-terror/intelligence community).The Al-qaida version will need strong community backing for the FGN in Nigeria.Good FGN PR and direct contact with areas prone to this area could change things.Not all this excuse of no airport!
Al-qaida is an ideology and is psychological,people need to be won over and people need to see why they must support the drive to flush them(terrorist) out with the backing of the FGN. Not FGN agents going to the trouble areas to cause more problems and lose support via there anti-friendly method of operation.win hearts and mind!It has worked for Iraq and had greatly improved the security in the country when the "awakening groups" emerged after they were allowed to work with USA army.They proved more effective in the security challenge than the USA hi-tech and intel.So government security agents must try to win hearts and mind.Nigeria has always had an internal-security challenge.The government must develop a better way of reaching out to the populace.They must know and deal with any discord and issues that be-devil communities.UNITY of PURPOSE is critical.
This groups survive on our difference and breed on corruption too! When people fail to do there work.People are bribed and government personnel are even caught in all sort of crimes.So who enforces ?That is why when GEJ shouts enough is enough,it just sound like hello.Since all the personal see in deployment is more room for bribes and more room to vent some kind of brute soldier mentally,typical of Nigerian Army.

Even' Pls pals let jst stop disturbing our self' na dem be Boko &HARAM o

haka_nai:


But at the same time if FGN can isolate some of them and deal with others then if could make the die-hard remnants easily manageable or exposed for disposable targets.

That's why the guys who know the break away factions are needed. If a genuinely break away faction is known and engaged, BH is dead. Ours is not a case of weak military like Mali. The bad guys in Mali are known but the military is too weak to confront them. Here, if we have the intelligence, if the establishment can volunteer information, we can flush them out in no time.

The real danger lies in replicating across borders where military is weak and thus use such as a base to attack us.

Those talking about boko haram being a PDP thing are either being a bit foolish, naive or mischievious.
Boko haram started with ANPP and was embraced across all political parties in the core-North as a political weapon to install a core-Northern elite friendly govt, after GEJ broke the back of PDP's rotation. Buhari, Ribadu etc all bought into the wider "North" politics of 2011 even though they are not PDP members.

As Naptu has said, lets stop giving quinine to a typhoid patient. Nuff said.

freegaza: The man is Dr. Datti Ahmad...He has worked with the ex boko haram leader Muhd Yusuf and even the current leader Abubakar shekau has confirmed they have started b4 sabotage by one Hassan Tukur(an adviser to gej)

bros i dey hail o

Kobojunkie:

Let us stop playing DAFT for a second . .. the group DOES NOT want to NEGOTIATE . . . has made this clear since 2009, even before Jonathan decided to take this one. Let us stop playing daft as if what the group is saying does not make sense. They do not have plans to negotiate any deals with the government and have more than made this clear in the last 3 years at least.

There demands have been made known and are not supposed to be sensible. Demanding they be, is asking that AlQaeda make sensible demands of the western world. That ain't never going to happen and the group has no intentions of doing such. So rather than continuing to pretend it is ALL STILL NEW. We need to make up our minds on whether we want to live NORMAL with the terrorists or flush them out completely.

From What JOnathan Goodluck said on June 24th, on National TV, it seems that he is not ready or willing to do whatever it takes to halt all this. If you do not know what he said, please visit the thread on the Presidential Chat videos.

guy relax let us see d end of dis dialogue first b4 u jump into conclusion

What Shehu Sani is saying isn't new. I remember some months back he warns on a BBC interview that no force on Earth can crush Boko Haram. He's been ignored, even with his bringing OBJ into the peace effort. Apparently some people in GEJ cabinet are more interested in spending the unprecedented ONE TRILLION naira defence budget than peace. Now that the budget is almost exhausted without even a dent in the capacity of boko haram, GEJ should see the writing on the wall and follow the example of Yar'adua with Niger Delta terrorists by pursuing the path of dialogue. Too much blood has been spilled unnecessarily (BH members,security forces, innocent civilians),PEACE is what we need NOW.There's only one BH - led by Shekau.Those talking of splinter groups are mistaking political thugs and armed robbers for BH.Shehu Sani advocates negotiation with BH. Of course insecurity in Nigeria goes beyond BH- armed robberies everywhere, kidnappings everywhere, thuggery everywhere- it's left for FG to provide overall security in the country.

Beaf: Those talking about boko haram being a PDP thing are either being a bit foolish, naive or mischievious.
Boko haram started with ANPP and was embraced across all political parties in the core-North as a political weapon to install a core-Northern elite friendly govt, after GEJ broke the back of PDP's rotation. Buhari, Ribadu etc all bought into the wider "North" politics of 2011 even though they are not PDP members.

As Naptu has said, lets stop giving quinine to a typhoid patient. Nuff said.

In as much as i think sometimes you make alot of sense you could really get way off line and allow sentiments blind you.Initially they started of as governors support base.Not ANPP party support base! modu Sheriff thugs.Now how does that equate to ANPP thugs?Then they had issues within the state,over some burial incident leading to the death of the members(19) and started off attacking security elements.Not attacking in Zamfara or Kano. They then took another step further when governor decided to get FGN to assist him clear the state of them.furthermore elements close to the governor modu sheriff became targets.Sooner than later the entire group which is a sect scattered across the northern part were in dis-array and some fighting the state(Bauchi,Yobe and Borno).
Yar'adua decides to use force on them without any opposition from ANPP or northern objection except UN and amnesty international.Later on the group promises to regroup and take revenge.Government dismisses there treat and simply felt its impossible.The group re-emerges and goes after notable Islamic clerics and government officials who were against there actions during the previous crisis within the northern part.
Across the north,members could hardly identify themselves.Since people would expose them in most cases.Making there members migrate to other places and hide there identity within newer Muslim community.There known leaders who survived,flee the country.Maintaining they will never give up the fight against the government.International community AFRICOM etc raises fear that some elements are trying to establish links with al-qaida in the mahgrib .Government ignores warning and dismissing it as bad and the statement a treat to there investment bids.
The government continues to ignore them.Later the hit and run tactics causes panic and fear amongst the populace.MAking the BH bold enough to walk the streets and do away with elements they despise.Government continues to see the treats as state issue and a regional agenda against a christian southerner.Later group claims to have training camps outside Nigerian borders and foreign intel (US and UK) suggest terrorist infiltration of Nigerian borders government dismisses such claims suggesting foreign interference.Sooner than later elections and the difference widens between north and south.The group continues further high level attacks within the NE.Threatening the FGN to stay clear of there area of interest.FGN moves in to intervene.Attacks escalated to FCT.Amongst all other targets,the UN is attacked typical of al-qaida preferred target.If you consider during the crisis in Borno,the same UN stood in to insist on the investigations and justice for the extra-judical killings. only to find itself being targeted.In what analyst see as a tribute to the greater al-qaida in the maghrib.
Later on the south is further made apprehensive by politicans and the media and begins to beat the drums of segregation.Suggesting northern agenda and a political divide within the political powers in the PDP.Pro-GEJ PDP faction/Media insisting the reasons for the attacks as being political.In no time the attacks begin to appear as a north south power feud.dividing the country in terms of views and analysis of the events.North suspect the FGN as foot dragging on the issue to cripple/destroy the north and the south thinking it as a ploy to make the FGN retrogress because of the GEJ equation.
BH becomes popular in the media.BH begins to attack police stations in remote locations and banks.This is a clear sign of desperation for logistics in guerrilla warfare up risings.FGN considers it armed robbery and still continues to foot drag.BH becomes more sophisticated.South continues to blame northern elements and leaders of silence.despite series of condemnations and suggestion on way forward by multiple groups from the north.it goes on and on and on.With PDP leaders making tonnes of mistake and focusing only on politics.ignoring the indicators and issues at hand.As usual in everything they do.they are so good at excuses!! Now we are at church bombing and last update from the BH was it had started sniper trainings for its members.So your guess is as good as mine.lets be proactive.unite the country and stop the lies and deceit.Identify the problems and use the right medicine.Also currently due to security presence they have decided to go stealth mode now.sneak in to people home at night and slit throats.With not gun shot.making the actions go UN-noticed.
If only you clear your eyes a bit.You could advice GEJ,in a better way to move forward and apply the right medicine at the right time.

^
The two most boko haram infested states, Borno and Yobe are ANPP states, so God alone knows who you are trying to decieve.
Everybody knows that Maiduguri (the capital of Borno) is boko harams capital, so please weave another long tale.

Beaf: ^
The two most boko haram infested states, Borno and Yobe are ANPP states, so God alone knows who you are trying to decieve.
Everybody knows that Maiduguri (the capital of Borno) is boko harams capital, so please weave another long tale.

^^^ since you know and GEJ lead FGN know what are you waiting for?ANPP states! lol what of Bauchi,Niger?People like you need to speak the truth and forget all this politics of an excuse and tackle this issue head on.

this northan people are coming up to take back all thy thinks that its only 4 them. They hav succided in taking the possison of NSA, CJN,and next should be presidency with the boko haram idiornogy.i tuned to radio biafra london thursday friday program thy pradicted that and is like its coming 2 pass. my prsident watch ur back vary well and lean 4rom history.

So many phone numbers going around here. What about the nos recently obtained by the NSA.

they need presidency sit simple.

haka_nai:

^^^ since you know and GEJ lead FGN know what are you waiting for?ANPP states! lol what of Bauchi,Niger?

What has it got to do with me? Abeg, face the topic, jare!
Listening to some of you on NL would make people believe that NLers are in control of Aso Rock.

Like I said earlier, boko haram is a core-Northern elite thing that cuts across ALL parties; ACN, ANPP, APGA, CPC, PDP etc. It is a power tool of the core-Northern elite; however, its origins lie in ANPP and it is strongest in the ANPP states of Borno and Yobe.
While many down South have heard of Maiduguri, boko haram has almost single handedly made relatively unknown Damaturu (capital of Yobe) a household name.

All said and done, the only interset govt should have in talking to boko haram is factionalising it further and gaining precious intelligence. The FG is better off cranking up its war footing than talking.
I feel sorry for those caught in the middle in heavily militarised states like Borno and Yobe, it can't be a great life for them, but its unfortunate. Nobody handles those who bomb innocent kids like they would handle their friendly next door neighbours, unfortunately, bystanders suffer; with that recognition, the govt must do everything to compensate the people.

GEJ has chosen a guy with a name that cannot be ignored anywhere in the North whose only mandate is boko haram. I believe he will succeed.

Oh dis country self. Oya GEJ form anoda committee to call de man and get de info from him. We dey.

Dis dude is very confident... But if i may ask... Are u not a Nigerian? Are you not against dis terrorists? Are you Not After peace? Do you need someone to call you before you can be of assist? Dis people shaa... Na God go help us all

nagoma:

But Shehu Sani said he had submitted a document to the government on the way forward and the government refused to act. His whole argument is that government and it's appendages want the crises to continue. Where is the hard ball and the brinksmanship? What have you, point B , done better than Shehu Sani to help?

What document are you talking about? The man himself has declared he is withholding information of critical value from Government. Shehu should come clean and give all the information he has to the government.

By the way don't get me wrong, such information should be used by government to track down these criminals and bring them to justice or bring justice to them. A responsible government has no business negotiating with mass murderers and terrorists. Shehu Sani should give them up now, and if he is one of them, he should confess and face trial.

One thing is certain boko haram cannot kill all of us, sooner or later the dynamics will change.

If Nig govt gives BH a deal just like the ND militants, there is a strong possibility that we will have more terrorist group before the end of this regime.

Bros d truth is dia's no new name Shehu Sani wud mention 2day dt d Presidency doesn't already now (and even av dir contacts). Even if we wire-tap Shehu Sani's lines,dia's nothing new we cud learn dt dis Govt doesn't already know. D Govt knows wat to do to end BH menace,but GEJ's Govt is both weak & too compromised to do wat is right in dis issue. Intergrity (...strenght of Character),men of intergrity are al dt is needed to passify & make BH see reason. Pls mention just one man who has intergrity in GEJ team 2day. Mention one northern Governor 2day who we can refer to as a man of intergrity,...and 98% of dem r of GEJ's PDP. Countries like d USA (wia governance is solely 4 d people) can brag dey won't negotiate wit terrorists because quietly underground des Govts r working round d clock via intelligence gathering to infiltrate & disarm such terrorist group,...nay tell me,with close to 50% of 2012 budget going to d security services,wat did folks like ex-NSA Azazzi achieve in d first 6 months of 2012?.

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When the government stops playing politics wit dis boko haram issue, then we mite b heading somewhere. But d truth should b asked, what do dese faceless terrorists want?