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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Idiko1: 2:55pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:


That is a lie


General Ironsi completely took away the autonomy of the Regions with Decree 34 of 1966

Before then the Western Region had its own busy UK embassy on great portland Street in London which had been established by Awolowo and which had to be closed down immediately after Ironsi's Decree 34 and the building was later taken over by the Federal Govt

https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966

Idiotic nonsense capable only of Nigerians. The so-called Decree 34 was for civil service. Ironsi could have taken the autonomies of the regions yet appointed regional governors. Gowon and his follow putschists of July 29. 1966 coup ran into the headwind presented by such regional autonomy when the regional governor of eastern region refused to recognize him as the C-in-C of armed forces of Nigeria. Till this day, the federal civil service established by the so-called Decree 34 is being used. The autonomy of the regional government was dismissed by Decree which established the 12 states in Nigeria.

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by codemaniacs: 2:57pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Ojukwu was not powerless hence July 29, 1966, coup was not successful. Gowon could not even venture out of Lagos to visit Benin City. If not for betrayal artists and backstabbers such as your forbearers, southern Nigeria would have been semi-paradise. The fools such as Ejoor, Adebayo and entire Yoruba and silly minorities from the southern Nigeria joined forces with Jihadists from northern region of Nigeria. I remembered deluded Akenzua attached to the ass of Gowon hoping Gowon will elevate a third-class permanent secretary to position of a minister. Akenzua supported Action Group when certain figures such as Osagie, Osadebe, Utomi, Ekwuasi and Okotie-Eboh fought for the creation of Midwestern region. The legacy of today's Nigeria is the blueprint of Gowon and the goons supported him period.

the legacy of today's Nigeria started with the Unification decree of Ironsi...

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by omonnakoda: 2:59pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Idiotic nonsense capable only of Nigerians. The so-called Decree 34 was for civil service. Ironsi could have taken the autonomies of the regions yet appointed regional governors. Gowon and his follow putschists of July 29. 1966 coup ran into the headwind presented by such regional autonomy when the regional governor of eastern region refused to recognize him as the C-in-C of armed forces of Nigeria. Till day, the federal civil service established by the so-called Decree 34 is being used. The autonomy of the regional government was dismissed by Decree which established the 12 states in Nigeria.
Federal civil service established by decree
Can you substantiate? Please
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by aswani(m): 3:01pm On Jan 16, 2023
A wonderfully principled man that was betrayed by those around him with less principles.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by UNDFTD: 3:01pm On Jan 16, 2023
Moh247:
I wonder what an Ogbomoso indegene must feel... Same guy that killed Samuel Ladoke Akintola

Same thing Lagosians and people of Ile Ife must feel when they see the man who NOT only killed Dele Giwa, a great reporter who was committed to true journalism but signed up your failed country as an Islamic country!
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Idiko1: 3:03pm On Jan 16, 2023
codemaniacs:


the legacy of today's Nigeria started with the Unification decree of Ironsi...

You are correct by moronic default. Unification decree centered on the uniform civil service in Nigeria which gave Nigeria grade of levels in today 's civil service. The Decree 34 has nothing to do with unitary system of government. The regional government ended in Nigeria when Gowon created the 12 states with administrators instead of governors.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Idiko1: 3:05pm On Jan 16, 2023
omonnakoda:
Federal civil service established by decree
Can you substantiate? Please

Yes, because the government of the day was led by the boys in Khaki uniform. Military does not legislate instead it governs though decree.

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Fejoku: 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2023
wirinet:


The Military Governors were appointees of the Head of State. How can they be given the authority to negotiate the sovereignty of Nigeria. The sovereignty of Nigeria should belong to its people and not a few select appointees of a Military head of state.
Does it mean you agreed with Ojukwu's position as at the time?
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by codemaniacs: 3:08pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


You are correct by moronic default. Unification decree centered on the uniform civil service in Nigeria which gave Nigeria grade of levels in today 's civil service. The Decree 34 has nothing to do with unitary system of government. The regional government ended in Nigeria when Gowon created the 12 states with administrators instead of governors.

unification decree abolished regions from keeping their income and revenue.. it ensured every income and revenue made by the regions go to the federal government..
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Fejoku: 3:19pm On Jan 16, 2023
wirinet:

The problem with you guys is that you don't listen to others. You only listen to your own thoughts and believe every other person must agree to your own thoughts and needs.

It was not only Gowon that quarrelled with the un(signed) aburi accord, southern minorities including those of the Eastern Nigeria that you guys intended to incorporate into your biafra were vehemently against the accord. Furthermore some prominent military officers were also against the accord. It would have been unfair for only igbos and a few igbo related tribes through blackmail and threats of war on Nigeria, to rail road Nigeria unconstitutionally into a loose confederation. Gowon only initially succumbed to the blackmail but on getting back to Nigeria had to backpedal due to the strength of the opposition. I am grateful you guys have not started calling me names like fulani slave, traitor and other unsavory insults.



I don't think Akenzua suggested any structure. All he pointed out was that a loose confederation is the same thing as succession. And the minorities in Eastern Nigeria along with other Regions were not prepared for secession at that time.

I think we should go back to the regional and parliamentary system bequeathed to us by the Britisht that was truncated by the Nzeogwu led coup. It allowed each region to spend its own resources to develop its region. That was the period of the fastest development in Nigeria.
So you still believe that Nigeria with any sort of structure will survive? As a matter of possibility, do you think you can get back regionalism under a parliamentary system?
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 3:22pm On Jan 16, 2023
Benrosaria:
Is that not obilo of splash fm 105.5 Ibadan, standing beside the statue
Yes that's him.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Idiko1: 3:22pm On Jan 16, 2023
codemaniacs:


unification decree abolished regions from keeping their income and revenue.. it ensured every income and revenue made by the regions go to the federal government..

Unification decree did no such thing. Ojukwu and eastern region were solely in charge of all the revenue accrued by eastern region. In furtherance of the autonomy granted to eastern region, Ojukwu refused to recognize Gowon as Head of State of Nigeria. If regional autonomy was vacated by the so-called Decree 34, would Ojukwu block Gowon as head of state and C-in-C of Nigeria? Most Nigerians seem to be brainless due to tribal pressure.

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 3:24pm On Jan 16, 2023
yesloaded:


Are you Edmund?
I thought as much, the Radio man of Splash 105.5FM

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by JOemmy(m): 3:27pm On Jan 16, 2023
The nigerian army might have mistaken asaba as the home town of Nzougu that's probably why they massacred thausands of asaba men who gathered to show their support for the nigerian state at the beginning of the war?
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by Voiceofthestree: 3:48pm On Jan 16, 2023
Moh247:


I wonder how silly anyone will be not to atleast google who the police arrested for killing Funso something that is even on Wiki

Most of you are children then so you know nothing about the popular case

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Shut up is wiki in charge of the case. We are not fools every typical Lagos I mean The real lagosian knows who killed Funsho Williams ok....... If Baba fit swear for shrine say he knows nothing I am very sure he no go reach 7days
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by codemaniacs: 3:50pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Unification decree did no such thing. Ojukwu and eastern region were solely in charge of all the revenue accrued by eastern region. In furtherance of the autonomy granted to eastern region, Ojukwu refused to recognize Gowon as Head of State of Nigeria. If regional autonomy was vacated by the so-called Decree 34, would Ojukwu block Gowon as head of state and C-in-C of Nigeria? Most Nigerians seem to be brainless due to tribal pressure.

unification decree gave power to the federal government over the regions..

the regions could no longer use their income and revenue without the authorization of the head of state.

the regions could no longer carry out development and infrastructural projects without the authorization of the head of state.

the regions could no longer employ people without the authorization of the head of state.

e.t.c.

unification decree weakened the regions..

Unification decree:
2. 1d for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;

3. 1. As from the appointed day all offices in the service of the Republic in a civil capacity shall be offices in a single service to be known as the National Public Service; and accordingly all persons who immediately before that day are members of the public service of the Federation or of the public service of a Region shall on that day become members of the National Public Service:
3. 2. As from the appointed day—
a. the Public Service Commission established under section 146 of the Constitution of the Republic shall be known as the National Public Service Commission, and references in that section and elsewhere to the Public Service Commission of the Federation shall be amended accordingly;

4.1 Subject to the provisions of this section, power to appoint persons to hold or act in offices in the National Public Service (including power to make appointments on promotion and to confirm appointments) and to dismiss and exercise disciplinary control over persons holding or acting in such offices shall, as from the appointed day, vest in the National Public Service Commission.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by omonnakoda: 3:58pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Yes, because the government of the day was led by the boys in Khaki uniform. Military does not legislate instead it governs though decree.
substantiate?
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by mfm04622: 4:17pm On Jan 16, 2023
igbosarejews:

Hey you bástárd, Delta State was never part of south east or the defunct Eastern region. It was mid west region ànd later Bendel state.
When it suits your idîotic submission, they turn to south east, but when oil is involved, same you will your shît tóngue will call them south south

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by caye(m): 4:21pm On Jan 16, 2023
I think that's Edmund Obillo.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by dalass(f): 4:31pm On Jan 16, 2023
NimrodEndOfDays:
was Nigeria together when Ahmadu Bello had the interview with the BBC about the Igbo people. ?? Continue to look for an excuse to show your tribalism and bigotry grin

Ahmadu Bello in his interview with BBC did not support his northern soldiers to kill Igbos. Are they the only tribe in this country staying in the North? What did Akintola do to deserve being killed by Nzeogwu? Did he also say something about Igbos that Nzeogwu didn't like?

Having tribal sentiments which should never translate to taking arms against another tribe. Nzeogwu expressed his hatred for the north and SW by killing their leaders. Making a.statue of him is endorsing killing other people for saying their minds.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by christistruth01: 4:37pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Idiotic nonsense capable only of Nigerians. The so-called Decree 34 was for civil service. Ironsi could have taken the autonomies of the regions yet appointed regional governors. Gowon and his follow putschists of July 29. 1966 coup ran into the headwind presented by such regional autonomy when the regional governor of eastern region refused to recognize him as the C-in-C of armed forces of Nigeria. Till this day, the federal civil service established by the so-called Decree 34 is being used. The autonomy of the regional government was dismissed by Decree which established the 12 states in Nigeria.


So why was the Western Region Embassy in London Closed down after Gen Ironsi's Decree 34 if Autonomy was not taken Away

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Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by wirinet(m): 5:04pm On Jan 16, 2023
Fejoku:

So you still believe that Nigeria with any sort of structure will survive? As a matter of possibility, do you think you can get back regionalism under a parliamentary system?

Nigeria just have to survive, else it will spell disastrous consequences on all of us. Nigeria is like an arrangee marriage of strange bedfellows. The marriage had been very tumultuous and painful, sometimes abusive. But, it have produced many children and numerous grand children. The family fortune has been so interwoven and intertwined and it is very difficult determining who owns what and the contributions of each member of the family. Such a divorce though possible would be extremely difficult and tumultuous. It cannot be achieved by fiat, or by threats and violence. It can only be achieved through the civil and political process.

I think a new political structure akin to parliamentary system can be achieved. It will take sincerity on the part of the political class. Whether igbo, fulani, yoruba or igala. The political class is just too insincere and manipulative. They are the ones that don't want Nigeria to unite, else yet lose their relevance.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 5:07pm On Jan 16, 2023
Fejoku:

Is it the accord that was already signed at Aburi that you're Gowon was dissuaded to sign? Is your reasoning alright? Philip Asiodu and Prince Akenzua only encouraged Gowon not to honour what he had signed in the presence of dignitaries including the then we'll respected Ghanaian Head of State. The responsibility still resided on the Military man called Yakubu Gowon. He has a copy of that agreement to till date. Thank God he's still alive. You can press him to make it open for this generation to see if he wants his soul to rest in peace. However, if you prefer the age old lies to continue, then let is continue. We shall see where it will lead us to.
Enjoy the current Nigeria of Philip Asiodu, Prince Akenzua and Yakubu Gowon's making.
You're not being fair, your opinions about Aburi Accord is logically incorrect.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by wirinet(m): 5:09pm On Jan 16, 2023
bayocanny:

You're not being fair, your opinions about Aburi Accord is logically incorrect.

Tell them to show us they sign accord, they temporarily behave like they are dumb, blind and deaf. They will never show but just keep parotting " Gowon and the Regions signed an accord, and gowon reneged on the sign accord "
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 5:11pm On Jan 16, 2023
gidgiddy:


But the same Akenzua shit his mouth when Gowon was abolishing the 4 Regions Nigeria had, created 12 new states and stripped them of resource control
What do you expect him to say?
He should accept his people to remain a slave to Ojukwu.
The abolishment of the 4 regions was only the final burial to true federalism and resource control earlier enjoy by Nigerians. Ironsi has already killed the system by his decree.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 5:17pm On Jan 16, 2023
wirinet:


The Military Governors were appointees of the Head of State. How can they be given the authority to negotiate the sovereignty of Nigeria. The sovereignty of Nigeria should belong to its people and not a few select appointees of a Military head of state.
Golden!

The Aburi Accord was an insult to the sensibility of Nigerians back then. The accord is federalistic in character.
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by gidgiddy: 5:17pm On Jan 16, 2023
bayocanny:

What do you expect him to say?
He should accept his people to remain a slave to Ojukwu.
The abolishment of the 4 regions was only the final burial to true federalism and resource control earlier enjoy by Nigerians. Ironsi has already killed the system by his decree.

Akenzua was not from the Eastern Region, he was from the Midwest

Ironsi did not kill anything, Nigera still had 4 Regions that has resource control throughout Ironsi's 6 months in office
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by wirinet(m): 5:18pm On Jan 16, 2023
bayocanny:

Golden!

The Aburi Accord was an insult to the sensibility of Nigerians back then. The accord is federalistic feudalistic in character.

Corrected
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 5:29pm On Jan 16, 2023
gidgiddy:


Akenzua was not from the Eastern Region, he was from the Midwest

Ironsi did not kill anything, Nigera still had 4 Regions that has resource control throughout Ironsi's 6 months in office
Read and digest.

Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by gidgiddy: 5:33pm On Jan 16, 2023
codemaniacs:


unification decree abolished regions from keeping their income and revenue.. it ensured every income and revenue made by the regions go to the federal government..

Thats a lie, no part of decree 34 said anything about revenue
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by bayocanny: 5:35pm On Jan 16, 2023
Idiko1:


Unification decree did no such thing. Ojukwu and eastern region were solely in charge of all the revenue accrued by eastern region. In furtherance of the autonomy granted to eastern region, Ojukwu refused to recognize Gowon as Head of State of Nigeria. If regional autonomy was vacated by the so-called Decree 34, would Ojukwu block Gowon as head of state and C-in-C of Nigeria? Most Nigerians seem to be brainless due to tribal pressure.
I like your line of arguments but you throwing a lot's of insults which shows no civility on your part.
Why did ojukwu refused to recognised Gowon and C in C?
Re: Statue Of Nzeogwu Erected In His Home Town Of Okpanam - Picture by gidgiddy: 5:38pm On Jan 16, 2023
bayocanny:

Read and digest.

You are posting something other people said same and the lie that has been told that Ironsi abolished Regionalism

Something from Dawodu.com, they can write anything they like, it does not make it true

There were 4 Regions when Ironsi took over in January 1966, and there were still 4 Regions when Ironsi was killed in July 1966

So anyone telling you that Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions should explain that magic to you

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