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NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 27, 2023
Moscow was wondering if the NATO chief took Western citizens for “morons” when he claimed the bloc is not party to the conflict.

NATO is fully engaged in the Ukrainian conflict, and people in member states should see through the deception, when the bloc's leadership claims otherwise, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said. She cited recent remarks made by its Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg to German media, in which he reiterated the non-involvement claim.

Do you actually consider the citizens of the EU and NATO total morons?” she wondered, during a media briefing on Friday. “Do you believe that as you send tanks, which require maintenance … you still are not party to the conflict? Who are you, then? Explain. Just invent some new term to identify yourself.”

Citizens of NATO states should know: their bloc is fully engaged in confrontation with our nation, and this confrontation is escalating.

Stoltenberg and others who deny Western participation are at odds with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, who this week shared her assessment that the EU was “at war with Russia,” Zakharova observed. Berlin’s foreign policy chief has “crossed out” all assurances to the contrary made by the NATO chief, she also said.

Baerbock’s remark faced pushback from other members of the EU, who rejected the German official’s narrative. Croatian President Zoran Milanovic said that his nation’s being at war with Russia was news to him and wished Berlin “good luck this time” unlike during World War II.

Zakharova accused Stoltenberg of “lying to the people of Ukraine for many years” to incite hostilities with Russia. Western leaders also lied when they negotiated the Minsk Agreements, she added, referring to the 2014-2015 deal that was supposed to resolve the conflict in Donbass.

Those agreements were mediated by then-Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel and then-President of France Francois Hollande, who co-signed a declaration of their endorsement with then-Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande acknowledged last year that, in reality, the process was meant to afford Ukraine time for a military build-up.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Karnice600: 4:39pm On Jan 27, 2023
StephonClarkS2:
Moscow was wondering if the NATO chief took Western citizens for “morons” when he claimed the bloc is not party to the conflict.

NATO is fully engaged in the Ukrainian conflict, and people in member states should see through the deception, when the bloc's leadership claims otherwise, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said. She cited recent remarks made by its Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg to German media, in which he reiterated the non-involvement claim.

Do you actually consider the citizens of the EU and NATO total morons?” she wondered, during a media briefing on Friday. “Do you believe that as you send tanks, which require maintenance … you still are not party to the conflict? Who are you, then? Explain. Just invent some new term to identify yourself.”

Citizens of NATO states should know: their bloc is fully engaged in confrontation with our nation, and this confrontation is escalating.

Stoltenberg and others who deny Western participation are at odds with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, who this week shared her assessment that the EU was “at war with Russia,” Zakharova observed. Berlin’s foreign policy chief has “crossed out” all assurances to the contrary made by the NATO chief, she also said.

Baerbock’s remark faced pushback from other members of the EU, who rejected the German official’s narrative. Croatian President Zoran Milanovic said that his nation’s being at war with Russia was news to him and wished Berlin “good luck this time” unlike during World War II.

Zakharova accused Stoltenberg of “lying to the people of Ukraine for many years” to incite hostilities with Russia. Western leaders also lied when they negotiated the Minsk Agreements, she added, referring to the 2014-2015 deal that was supposed to resolve the conflict in Donbass.

Those agreements were mediated by then-Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel and then-President of France Francois Hollande, who co-signed a declaration of their endorsement with then-Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande acknowledged last year that, in reality, the process was meant to afford Ukraine time for a military build-up.

Idiot.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Gift96: 4:39pm On Jan 27, 2023
War is beautiful. By the time Russians react on a much larger scale, they'll say Russians hit first.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 4:44pm On Jan 27, 2023
Gift96:
War is beautiful. By the time Russians react on a much larger scale, they'll say Russians hit first.
Yeah, they'll start playing victim.
If you look at it critically, you'll see that time has been an advantage to Russia. There's more awareness and the support for the Nazi war mongers continues to shrink.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by VeryWickedGoat: 4:45pm On Jan 27, 2023
Bomb them.
If you can't do it just give it to me let me bomb everywhere. Time is going.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 4:48pm On Jan 27, 2023
RT propaganda people are working overtime hours today grin

Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jan 27, 2023
opamoses1:
RT propaganda people are working overtime hours today grin
What part is propaganda?
Is NATO not involved in the conflict or you're just deluded?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by opamoses1: 5:02pm On Jan 27, 2023
StephonClarkS2:

What part is propaganda?
Is NATO not involved in the conflict or you're just deluded?
You are intoxicated on Russian propaganda.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 5:07pm On Jan 27, 2023
opamoses1:

You are intoxicated on Russian propaganda.
Your attachment is the very definition of deceit.
Some people like yourself can be fooled.
But it's impossible to fool everyone.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jan 27, 2023
opamoses1:

You are intoxicated on Russian propaganda.
In addition, the conclusion that NATO is at war with Russia isn't based on Russian reporting.
It's based on facts, reality, the body language and statements of NATO's officials.
Your speculations are invalid.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jan 27, 2023
VeryWickedGoat:
Bomb them.
If you can't do it just give it to me let me bomb everywhere. Time is going.

Hehehehe. Okay, you are a very wicked Goat!

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 10:47pm On Jan 27, 2023
I think that you should contact Russia and enlist to help them fight. You can start a thread on Nairaland to tell us all about it.

I say it, because you sound like a very brave a fearless guy. People that don't know you, will think that you're just a keyboard warrior. grin

VeryWickedGoat:
Bomb them.
If you can't do it just give it to me let me bomb everywhere. Time is going.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 10:52pm On Jan 27, 2023
If Russia thinks that NATO is attacking them, well strike NATO na!

If I dey punch your head, but I try to fool you and say I'm not punching your head, will you just stand there and say "But it's impossible to fool everyone."? grin


StephonClarkS2:

Your attachment is the very definition of deceit.
Some people like yourself can be fooled.
But it's impossible to fool everyone.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 10:53pm On Jan 27, 2023
Make him go join the Russian army na.

topcatking:


Hehehehe. Okay, you are a very wicked Goat!

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 10:56pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
If Russia thinks that NATO is attacking them, well strike NATO na!

If I dey punch your head, but I try to fool you and say I'm not punching your head, will you just stand there and say "But it's impossible to fool everyone."? grin


ElijahMcClain:
Yes Russia is in a proxy war with NATO.
Russia is at war with the Nazi regime and Nazi elements in Ukraine not the Ukrainian people (the people of the donbass republics also have Ukrainian roots).
NATO further escalating the conflict increases the risk of a direct confrontation (I.e Russia can engage them directly in their own domain/territories).
During WW2, before the Japanese attack on pearl harbor, the Americans were reluctant to escalate the conflict (this tied the hands of America's decision makers). After the attack on pearl harbor, Americans were begging for war, the American political leadearship got the political support it needed and they invaded Japan.
It's important that Russia apprises it's citizenry of NATO's escalations and provocations in order to continue to win thier support.
Russia is doing the bolded.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:00pm On Jan 27, 2023
Good for them then. grin

StephonClarkS2:


Russia is doing the bolded.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
Good for them then. grin

So why're you complaining?
Or should I say... crying more than the bereaved?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:12pm On Jan 27, 2023
Complaining about what? I'm telling them to do something about it, that's not a complain. Russia should F around and find out!

The ones crying are those complaining about the weapon supplies. We are taking actions. We said from the start that we will provide weapons so Ukraine can defend its self.

StephonClarkS2:

So why're you complaining?
Or should I say... crying more than the bereaved?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:15pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
Complaining about what? I'm telling them to do something about it, that's not a complain. Russia should F around and find out!

The ones crying are those complaining about the weapon supplies. We are taking actions. We said from the start that we will provide weapons so Ukraine can defend its self.

I already responded to your 'do something about it'. They're informing thier citizens of NATO'S escalations. NATO will meet that threshold/limit of Russia's restraints and they'll be served.
At that time, both Russians and Nazis/Nazi sympathizers would not claim they weren't informed or it was unwarranted.
You can stop crying now.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:27pm On Jan 27, 2023
What is the threshold/limit? Tanks? Jets? Long range missiles? Do you know?

I don't want to stop crying, the more I cry, the more weapons we send to Ukraine.

StephonClarkS2:

I already responded to your 'do something about it'. They're informing thier citizens of NATO'S escalations. NATO will meet that threshold/limit of Russia's restraints and they'll be served.
At that time, both Russians and Nazis/Nazi sympathizers would not claim they weren't informed or it was unwarranted.
You can stop crying now.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:33pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
What is the threshold/limit? Tanks? Jets? Long range missiles? Do you know?

I don't want to stop crying, the more I cry, the more weapons we send to Ukraine.

No 1, go and bomb Kremlin then come back and talk to me.
Sheybi una too get power abi?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 11:42pm On Jan 27, 2023
We don't want to bomb Kremlin, we want to give Ukraine weapons to kill the Russians invading Ukraine. That's what we want to do, and that's what we are doing.

And yes we get power, and with great power comes great responsibility. But we are not cowards that will sit around and allow a bully to bully the small guy.

You can cause us a bully, that's fine, as long as we are doing the bullying. grin

If no be for nuclear weapon, we go bully Russia hard too! We bully them in other ways already, that's why the biggest country in the world has lower gdp when compared to a state like California.

Maybe after this war, we will break them into pieces, like we did USSR, they lose their nuclear weapons, we move in and talk all their resources. grin

Only a fool will go and bomb Kremlin, we are playing chess, not checkers, and we are few moves ahead.


StephonClarkS2:

No 1, go and bomb Kremlin then come back and talk to me.
Sheybi una too get power abi?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
We don't want to bomb Kremlin, we want to give Ukraine weapons to kill the Russians invading Ukraine. That's what we want to do, and that's what we are doing.

And yes we get power, and with great power comes great responsibility. But we are not cowards that will sit around and allow a bully to bully the small guy.

You can cause us a bully, that's fine, as long as we are doing the bullying. grin

If no be for nuclear weapon, we go bully Russia hard too! We bully them in other ways already, that's why the biggest country in the world has lower gdp when compared to a state like California.

Maybe after this war, we will break them into pieces, like we did USSR, they lose their nuclear weapons, we move in and talk all their resources. grin




Ok

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by jimetagambo: 11:43pm On Jan 27, 2023
kris:
If Russia thinks that NATO is attacking them, well strike NATO na!

If I dey punch your head, but I try to fool you and say I'm not punching your head, will you just stand there and say "But it's impossible to fool everyone."? grin


grin grin grin

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 11:55pm On Jan 27, 2023
Here's a list of weapons that i strongly advise NATO to send to Ukraine:
Enough air defense systems, enough Short/Long range missiles, enough tanks.
You can add your list.
Over the past one year, Ukraine has continued to lose ground.
When will the wonder weapon/game changer arrive?
How many more Nazis have to die?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 12:04am On Jan 28, 2023
Anti tanks too...
They also need to be quick about it, they shouldn't wait until all the Nazis are expelled as Russia has maintained momentum after the victory in Soledar.
What's happening to the Nazi regime in Ukraine?
A particular red line Moscow has stated is:
There would be a catastrophic retaliation if weapons are provided to Kiev and they're used for deep strikes into Russian territory on the peaceful civilian population.

I urge the West to send Ukraine all the weapon it needs.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 12:10am On Jan 28, 2023
We are working on it. We don't want to drop bombs on peaceful civilians. That will just create more enemies for us. We don't want to give the Russian population a good reason to join the army. We are smarter than that. Russia is not, and it's creating more enemies by killing civilians.



StephonClarkS2:
Anti tanks too...
They also need to be quick about it, they shouldn't wait until all the Nazis are expelled as Russia has maintained momentum after the victory in Soledar.
What's happening to the Nazi regime in Ukraine?
A particular red line Moscow has stated is:
There would be a catastrophic retaliation if weapons are provided to Kiev and they're used for deep strikes into Russian territory on the peaceful civilian population.

I urge the West to send Ukraine all the weapon it needs.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 12:12am On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
We are working on it. We don't want to drop bombs on peaceful civilians. That will just create more enemies for us. We don't want to give the Russian population a good reason to join the army. We are smarter than that. Russia is not, and it's creating more enemies by killing civilians.



All the best.

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 12:15am On Jan 28, 2023
If you believe the bolded, then I don't know what to tell ya! Looks like you missed the retreat. grin

Wars take time, we will keep doing our part to provide weapons to Ukraine.

StephonClarkS2:
Here's a list of weapons that i strongly advise NATO to send to Ukraine:
Enough air defense systems, enough Short/Long range missiles, enough tanks.
You can add your list.
Over the past one year, Ukraine has continued to lose ground.
When will the wonder weapon/game changer arrive?
How many more Nazis have to die?
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 12:15am On Jan 28, 2023
NATO has had more than enough time to provide Ukraine with 'game changer weapons.'
How much time do they need?

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Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by kris(m): 12:15am On Jan 28, 2023
Thank you! We are the best!

StephonClarkS2:

All the best.
Re: NATO Strongly Urged To Stop Deceit by Nobody: 12:16am On Jan 28, 2023
kris:
If you believe the bolded, then I don't know what to tell ya! Looks like you missed the retreat. grin

Wars take time, we will keep doing our part to provide weapons to Ukraine.

I won't argue with you on that topic.

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