Samantha124:
Then why do you keep engaging in tribal wars here on nairaland?

Why do you keep killing each other because of tribalism if you're that much united?

We quarrel, fight and dehumanize each other on nairaland but to an average Nigerian on the streets, we are one big unhappy family. Every Nigerian tribe seems to defend their own, rebuke them when they go wrong but goes back to realign with them when the come up against other tribes? Ironic right? The truth is that everyone is not happy with the political system but politicians cut across all tribes love the system. In nairaland, we troll but in reality, we are together. Don't get carried away by our usual bashing of each other. Physically, we don't fight tribal war

TonySpike

This will be a good read for you because it gives a peripheral view of what ancient West Africa was like according to Romans:

Between the first and fourth years of our era, there were several Roman expeditions in the West African region. According to Jonathan Roth, the main motivation for organizing these expeditions was to find sources of gold and organize transport to provinces located on the north coast of Africa. According to Pliny, the first organized expedition was commanded by Cornelius Balbus, who in 19 BCE probably reached the Niger River near Timbuktu. His claims have been backed up today by Roman artefacts discovered in the vicinity of Mali. Another expedition in the area was led by Consul Suetonius Paulinus, the first Roman commander to lead an army through the Atlas Mountains. His legionaries probably reached the Senegal River, as evidenced by Roman objects found until today in Mauritania.

In the central Sahara desert, two expeditions to Lake Chad were undertaken, according to Claudius Ptolemy, then known as Lake Hippopotamus. They were commanded by Septimius Flaccus and Julius Maternus. The first took place in CE 50 as retaliation against the Nomads attacking Leptis Magna, and three months later it reached a land called Agisimba in the Lake Chad area. The second one took place 40 years later and was a purely commercial expedition. After 4 months of travel, Julius Maternus arrived in the same area from where he was able to bring back a two-horned rhino, which was then featured in Colosseum.

Some historians argue that the Romans may have reached the equatorial regions. According to Pliny, in CE 70, Valerius Festus, the legate of the Legion of III Augustus, led another expedition to the area of ​​the Niger River. Different interpretations indicate the possibility of some legionaries travelling beyond the Timbuktu area, up to the mouth of the Niger in today’s Nigeria. On the other hand, some historians say that Festus never left the area of ​​modern southern Libya.

This is the more popular expedition albeit they didn’t get to West Africa. The stopped around present day South Sudan (I think). It’s a long article and you can read it here: https://www.thecollector.com/ancient-rome-and-the-search-for-the-source-of-the-nile/

However, this excerpt stood out:

Instead, the soldiers decided to continue down the White Nile, which took them to South Sudan. At this point, they became the first Europeans to penetrate this far south into Africa. For the Romans, this was a land of wonder, inhabited by fantastical creatures—tiny pygmies, animals without ears or with four eyes, people ruled by canine overlords, and burnt-faced men. Even the landscape looked otherworldly. The mountains glowed red as if they were set on fire.

^This was after they passed the splendour and greatness of other black civilisations. These were the creatures they came in contact with.

You don't want to come home only to hear " baby, I checked my vitals today and my BP was higher than expected, I'm thinking of going to the pharmacy first thing tomorrow morning to get myself some aspirin tablets."

Or you don't want to hear things like " baby, I've just lost a patient today from a seizure just when I thought he was coming through just fine and even prescribed some paracetamol for him."....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Big ups to you guys..😂😂😂😂

LordErrk:


What do you mean? I wake up early to run and go to the gym, like 3 times a week. And sometimes I watch movies like 40 minutes a day... see, I have time for myself.
I just want to someone who has no idea how her body works 😅 I don't want to come home and start listening to the same thing I've been hearing all day

Samantha124:
So where do the Xhosas and Zulus originate from?

What ethnic group are they if not Bantus?

Your problem just like that of kingcold/sirtree is over-simplification of things simply wanting to put things into small boxes or categories, Unfortunately that won't work in cases like this. Why should I classify myself as anything else outside of being Xhosa or black South African?.There's a difference between mainstream classification of people or widely accepted identities and their real identities. People like Trevor Noah are widely accepted or it's pushed down their throats that they are black; but in reality they're neither black or white , they are who they are and that's biracial or mixed race people. Jim crow must not rule our brains even on his grave .

The modern day South Africans were formed from unions between clans of the Khoe and san and those of Bantus ; in the case of Zulus and Xhosas these Bantus were Ngoni. Simply reality as is evident from their Genes, language and clan names. I asked you why you don't have Pedi people in Central Affrica ,did you all run down South? Why don't you look or sound like them?. Did your bloodline get editted by the weather of SA? If not so , then why do you choose to omit another side of you and embrace only one identity ? Trying to conform with *what is widely believed or what you expected to identify by your teachers *?

But I've seen videos of you guys killing each other because of tribalism wars.

What do you have to say about that? Are you telling me that the videos are fake?

Jahwinaboy:
We quarrel, fight and dehumanize each other on nairaland but to an average Nigerian on the streets, we are one big unhappy family. Every Nigerian tribe seems to defend their own, rebuke them when they go wrong but goes back to realign with them when the come up against other tribes? Ironic right? The truth is that everyone is not happy with the political system but politicians cut across all tribes love the system. In nairaland, we troll but in reality, we are together. Don't get carried away by our usual bashing of each other. Physically, we don't fight tribal war

Samantha124:
It's much fun like that..

I'll like to be an SA citizen what do ido

Sepukku:


To tell the truth there are technically only 5 different "tribes" in South Africa and not ten because half of the so called tribes are just clans who seperated from each other and gave themselves new clan names

Tswana-Pedi-Sotho are basically the same people mutually intelligble

Swati-Zulu-Xhosa -Ndebele- and to certain extent Tshonga are also basically the same people.

You’re right.

I always classify Ndebele in Zimbabwe to be of the same stock as Zulu and Xhosa (and even some Zambians tbh).

It’s the same problem with the idiocy about Nigerians. They think they have 300 ethnic groups when in reality, the country doesn’t have more than 15-20 ethnic groups. All these groups are just different dialects or groups from a particular ethnic group that migrated to another area and ended up adopting a lot of words from a more dominant ethnic group in their new abode.

People just create all these phantom ethnic groups due to greed and lust for power by their elites.

Samantha124:
But I've seen videos of you guys killing each other because of tribalism wars.

What do you have to say about that? Are you telling me that the videos are fake?

videos of killing based on tribe? lol. Most likely fake. The killing is religious not tribal. No tribe goes to war with another here. Formally, community clashes occur due to land disputes. If we have been fighting tribal wars by now our population would have drastically reduced. Don't believe everything u see on the media

Samantha124:
You don't want to come home only to hear " baby, I checked my vitals today and my BP was higher than expected, I'm thinking of going to the pharmacy first thing tomorrow morning to get myself some aspirin tablets."

Or you don't want to hear things like " baby, I've just lost a patient today from a seizure just when I thought he was coming through just fine and even prescribed some paracetamol for him."....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Big ups to you guys..😂😂😂😂

You don't do anything medical related do you?😄 because pcm is sooo not used for seizures...except its a simple or complex febrile seizure. We give diazepam or phenobarbitone for that. And patients don't usually die from seizures...except of course, certain cases

You keep contradicting yourself.

You claim that the Xhosas and the Zulus are not Bantus.

Yet you come again and claim that modern day South Africans were formed from unions of the Bantu and Khoisan, which we all know and this means that black South Africans are Bantus because they have Bantu ancestries.

I never denied that part that black South Africans have Khoisan ancestry, you can check all of my comments... Now how can you claim that Xhosas and Zulus are not Bantus when a part of them originate from ngoni people and ngoni people are Bantus?

We don't have Pedi people in central Africa because as part of the Bantus migrated down South years ago, they evolved with time and we became the people that we are today.

And also remember that we're called the northern Sothos for a reason too as we were once all Sothos, but as the boers scattered the Sotho kingdom, all Sotho clans went their separate ways and that's where the Pedis and Tswanas came from.

After central Africa, Free State province was also once our home as we descendent from the Sothos, who also descendent from the Bantu people of central West Africa, but there's no way you can now find a Pedi person in Lesotho or Free State, unless they recently moved there, what do you have to say about that?

Are you trying to tell me that people don't evolve as they migrate

If you and your family moved to North Africa, wouldn't your next generation evolve with time and the culture there

Lionessza6:


Your problem just like that of kingcold/sirtree is over-simplification of things simply wanting to put things into small boxes or categories, Unfortunately that won't work in cases like this. Why should I classify myself as anything else outside of being Xhosa or black South African?.There's a difference between mainstream classification of people or widely accepted identities and their real identities. People like Trevor Noah are widely accepted or it's pushed down their throats that they are black; but in reality they're neither black or white , they are who they are and that's biracial or mixed race people. Jim crow must not rule our brains even on his grave .

The modern day South Africans were formed from unions between clans of the Khoe and san and those of Bantus ; in the case of Zulus and Xhosas these Bantus were Ngoni. Simply reality as is evident from their Genes, language and clan names. I asked you why you don't have Pedi people in Central Affrica ,did you all run down South? Why don't you look or sound like them?. Did your bloodline get editted by the weather of SA? If not so , then why do you choose to omit another side of you and embrace only one identity ? Trying to conform with *what is widely believed or what you expected to identify by your teachers *?

KingCold:
As it should be..

You think?

You see?,🤣🤣🤣 This is what you don't want, because a small joke will eventually turn into a big medical discussion with your big medical terms.

This is what you don't want to come home to..🤣🤣🤣

I just said a small joke and now you already want to go medical on me..🤦🤦🤦

LordErrk:



You don't do anything medical related do you?😄 because pcm is sooo not used for seizures...except its a simple or complex febrile seizure. We give diazepam or phenobarbitone for that. And patients don't usually die from seizures...except of course, certain cases

You too should not believe anything you see on the media about SA.

Jahwinaboy:
videos of killing based on tribe? lol. Most likely fake. The killing is religious not tribal. No tribe goes to war with another here. Formally, community clashes occur due to land disputes. If we have been fighting tribal wars by now our population would have drastically reduced. Don't believe everything u see on the media

I think in order to be a citizen you must be living here for 10 years, I'm not sure.

Ransomtheking:

I'll like to be an SA citizen what do ido

Samantha124:
I think in order to be a citizen you must be living here for 10 years, I'm not sure.

Wahala ten years
Lemme pack my stuff
Am coming
Shey u fit accommodate me

Nope.

Find yourself your own accommodation.

Ransomtheking:

Wahala ten years
Lemme pack my stuff
Am coming
Shey u fit accommodate me

Samantha124:
You too should not believe anything you see on the media about SA.

for example?

Samantha124:
A particular tribe.

Which tribe?

Xenophobia.

Jahwinaboy:
for example?

Samantha124:
I'll see what I can do..

That will be kind of you, can't wait for that to happen. Thanks

Zulu.

Passionate888:
Which tribe?

Samantha124:
Xenophobia.

We understand that have long reduced. We hope that someday, Africans will be more closer to one another. Not until you visit Nigeria, you will not understand certain things. In all, get you a Nigerian, thank me later

KingCold:
oh here comes the know it all

At least you didn't say I was lieing or was wrong.

Creeper:


You’re right.

I always classify Ndebele in Zimbabwe to be of the same stock as Zulu and Xhosa (and even some Zambians tbh).

It’s the same problem with the idiocy about Nigerians. They think they have 300 ethnic groups when in reality, the country doesn’t have more than 15-20 ethnic groups. All these groups are just different dialects or groups from a particular ethnic group that migrated to another area and ended up adopting a lot of words from a more dominant ethnic group in their new abode.

People just create all these phantom ethnic groups due to greed and lust for power by their elites.

My thoughts exactly. Nigeria probably has about 30 maybe 40 ethnic groups and not 250 but everybody in Africa wants to claim self determination- actualization instead of consolidating, so here we have it.

Samantha124:
Nope.

Find yourself your own accommodation.

Ma'am I kinda like your personality
Now I can tell my friends that I gat a friend in S.A

There was never xenophobia in SA to begin with... Same way you claim there was never tribalism in Nigeria.

Jahwinaboy:
We understand that have long reduced. We hope that someday, Africans will be more closer to one another. Not until you visit Nigeria, you will not understand certain things. In all, get you a Nigerian, thank me later

Lionessza6:


LMFAO,buddy I said you used to call it was it was back then; slave trading , but today you use the sugar coated term " human trafficking " ....same old shyt though . Just Niggers in the area selling off their own women as sex slaves to anyone who would offer them mirrors ( back then) .....a visa today

I don't know what you are talking about. A I'm saying is STOP REED DANCE!

Samantha124:
There was never xenophobia in SA to begin with... Same way you claim there was never tribalism in Nigeria.

Really? That's nice 👌

KingCold:
Correct
https://www.nairaland.com/2384265/beautiful-south-african-girls/374

Are you from south Africa??

Fvck Southafricans

Bloody zulus

Lionessza6:


Your problem just like that of kingcold/sirtree is over-simplification of things simply wanting to put things into small boxes or categories, Unfortunately that won't work in cases like this. Why should I classify myself as anything else outside of being Xhosa or black South African?.There's a difference between mainstream classification of people or widely accepted identities and their real identities. People like Trevor Noah are widely accepted or it's pushed down their throats that they are black; but in reality they're neither black or white , they are who they are and that's biracial or mixed race people. Jim crow must not rule our brains even on his grave .

The modern day South Africans were formed from unions between clans of the Khoe and san and those of Bantus ; in the case of Zulus and Xhosas these Bantus were Ngoni. Simply reality as is evident from their Genes, language and clan names. I asked you why you don't have Pedi people in Central Affrica ,did you all run down South? Why don't you look or sound like them?. Did your bloodline get editted by the weather of SA? If not so , then why do you choose to omit another side of you and embrace only one identity ? Trying to conform with *what is widely believed or what you expected to identify by your teachers *?

This is precisely what I said mos?