Minemrys:

If Aquaman and Blue Beetle underperforms, James Gunnverse might be shelved. WB needs to start making profit as it is cause I doubt investors would want to invest in coming DC projects.
That's why I am saying James Gunn better quit the media nonsense cause if Zaslav calls the whole thing off, it'll be a big embarrassment for him. He should stay low key, cause as it is, everyone is waiting for I told you so. Superman project is very different from Guardians of the Galaxy and would be closely watched and nitpicked at every turn like MOS and Superman Returns.
Gunn needs to shut up about the project till it's filmed and marked for release.

Yes bro. Hail Snydra!!!

abduleez1:


Lmao... I still dey tell Una to rest with this shelved talk.

WB Pictures Animation has been making flops since 2018 back to back, but that hasn't made its parent company shelved the animation studio. In fact Zaslav and co is planning for two animated movies per year from WBPA starting 2024. If a smaller loss making company wasn't shelved or cancelled in Zaslav's brutal axe, I see no way DC films would.
Let's stop the cap now bruh.

All studios have some time of difficulty in their history. That doesn't mean they'd stop producing films especially the big 5.

Zaslav have consistently talked about Harry Potter and Superman (DC) in virtually all his talks about the studio. Doesn't seem he'd be backing down because of a few snags. Current WB execs are different from what we're used to.

Instead, Zaslav would sacrifice the smaller projects for the bigger ones if he really cares about his profits.

Gunn can continue talking as he likes, it's his right.... Whether his movie flopped or not without him saying shït people were still gonna talk loudly. Let's not pretend there's not a dedicated set of people waiting for him to fail. They were the one that started talking before Gunn started giving it to them hot hot. So make everybody dey him dey.

Either way you die, why not go out graciously.

Lol, I hope you know it's not WB that's using their money to finance the big budget film, right?
It's the investors who put in money on a project. If WB don't start turning profit for investors, people may not be open into putting their money in these projects. Don't expect Zaslav to be okay with losing money. If it gets consistent, the board might vote him out.

Minemrys:

Lol, I hope you know it's not WB that's using their money to finance the big budget film, right?
It's the investors who put in money on a project. If WB don't start turning profit for investors, people may not be open into putting their money in these projects. Don't expect Zaslav to be okay with losing money. If it gets consistent, the board might vote him out.

Can you tell me who's the investors?? The same investors are absent in other studios??

abduleez1:


Can you tell me who's the investors?? The same investors are absent in other studios??

Bro, studio films are funded by investors. This isn't rocket science, man. How am I supposed to tell you who their investors are? Do I work with Hollywood? Come on, WB is a public liability company with shareholders and investors, same as other studios. Zaslav's discovery owns majority shares but doesn't mean he is sole proprietor.

Minemrys:

Bro, studio films are funded by investors. This isn't rocket science, man. How am I supposed to tell you who their investors are? Do I work with Hollywood? Come on, WB is a public liability company with shareholders and investors, same as other studios. Zaslav's discovery owns majority shares but doesn't mean he is sole proprietor.

So how do the studio make its money? Without producing movies because the investors felt it's not receiving ROI??

As a studio they have no choice than to keep producing content cos there's no way of recouping investments without investing first. Except they want to fold up the business and pack up.

So in essence, DC films will still be produced as long as it's a pivotal IP and revenue driver for WB regardless of who's in charge. The worst they can do is change CEO, executives or board members to right the ship.

This is the reason why I say I don't buy this investors refusing to produce DC films cos they ain't getting returns. Which other franchise have the potential to deliver WB blockbuster money presently? Harry Potter is not bankable presently. LOTR is already in retirement and despite reboot plans by Zaslav, it takes time (at least 3-5 yrs from now before you see finished product). Godzilla and Kong franchise is being pulled from WB by Legendary after the next film.

So you see there's really no choice to stop producing DC films as it's currently the only money spinner asides the Conjuring franchise.

abduleez1:


So how do the studio make its money? Without producing movies because the investors felt it's not receiving ROI??

As a studio they have no choice than to keep producing content cos there's no way of recouping investments without investing first. Except they want to fold up the business and pack up.

So in essence, DC films will still be produced as long as it's a pivotal IP and revenue driver for WB regardless of who's in charge. The worst they can do is change CEO, executives or board members to right the ship.

This is the reason why I say I don't buy this investors refusing to produce DC films cos they ain't getting returns. Which other franchise have the potential to deliver WB blockbuster money presently? Harry Potter is not bankable presently. LOTR is already in retirement and despite reboot plans by Zaslav, it takes time (at least 3-5 yrs from now before you see finished product). Godzilla and Kong franchise is being pulled from WB by Legendary after the next film.

So you see there's really no choice to stop producing DC films as it's currently the only money spinner asides the Conjuring franchise.

Studios don't spend investors money on films that end up making losses. Or investors don't invest in franchises that end up not guarantying profit.That's why films that don't do well often times don't get sequels. Of course the studios can convince them otherwise and may still get them to keep investing but bros when the losses keep getting consistent, they will pull it off. It's business. Just because Zaslav has taken some risks doesn't mean if the DC products start incurring losses that nothing will be done. I am not talking about underperforming but outright flops. Like the Flash for instance. And of course the critical acclaim will also factor. Go read through films that critically got planned and ended up incurring losses, they never got sequels.
Studios don't finance movie projects on their lonesome, they gather investors from various places. That's why most times you see product placement of certain brands in films like having characters use a specific laptop, gadget or drink or whatever show up in scenes. It's subliminal advertising.
Watch the end credits and you will see those who put money in film projects distributed by Studios. I am surprised we are having this conversation sef.

Minemrys:

Studios don't spend investors money on films that end up making losses. Or investors don't invest in franchises that end up not guarantying profit.That's why films that don't do well often times don't get sequels. Of course the studios can convince them otherwise and may still get them to keep investing but bros when the losses keep getting consistent, they will pull it off. It's business. Just because Zaslav has taken some risks doesn't mean if the DC products start incurring losses that nothing will be done. I am not talking about underperforming but outright flops. Like the Flash for instance. And of course the critical acclaim will also factor. Go read through films that critically got planned and ended up incurring losses, they never got sequels.
Studios don't finance movie projects on their lonesome, they gather investors from various places. That's why most times you see product placement of certain brands in films like having characters use a specific laptop, gadget or drink or whatever show up in scenes. It's subliminal advertising.
Watch the end credits and you will see those who put money in film projects distributed by Studios. I am surprised we are having this conversation sef.

Lol, all this you've said I'm well aware of.
Anyways, you're free to believe what you want.

abduleez1:


Lol, all this you've said I'm well aware of.
Anyways, you're free to believe what you want.

Then why we come dey argue?

Minemrys:

Then why we come dey argue?

Cos we have different opinions of how things would go for DC. And I just wan end the argument.


Still your understanding of product placement and ROI is kinda flawed. Product placement doesn't always necessarily involves payment of cash.
Also, they don't pay money for product placement/subtle advertising so they can partake in the movies box office.
Their return of investment is in the BRAND EXPOSURE not cash returns. That's why some pay in the first place just to get into the film.
If the film makes money or not no concern the brand's as long as many people watched the film or will watch in the future. So it's a win win for the brands if the movie are good. They are sure to get repeat watch or more viewers in the future = exposure.

WW84 that you might consider a flop at BO is a big win for the product placement brand (Members Only) in the film.

abduleez1:


Cos we have different opinions of how things would go for DC. And I just wan end the argument.


Still your understanding of product placement and ROI is kinda flawed. Product placement doesn't always necessarily involves payment of cash.
Also, they don't pay money for product placement/subtle advertising so they can partake in the movies box office.
Their return of investment is in the BRAND EXPOSURE not cash returns. That's why some pay in the first place just to get into the film.
If the film makes money or not no concern the brand's as long as many people watched the film or will watch in the future. So it's a win win for the brands if the movie are good. They are sure to get repeat watch or more viewers in the future = exposure.

WW84 that you might consider a flop at BO is a big win for the product placement brand (Members Only) in the film.

Bros,I don't even know why the back and forth. That I mentioned product placement doesn't mean all the investors in films are advertising products or interested in the BO. There are a lot of investors in films, some minor and some major. Advertisers are also investors but it depends on what the agreement is on.

I don't know why you are centered on advertisers lol. Production companies are also part of investors. Take for example public liability companies where salary earners have shares in them, of course what they get might be little or different to what main shareholders get when the investment turns profit. Film business involves a lot of people in the financial category and in different angles. Not just the studio heads.

Minemrys:

Bros,I don't even know why the back and forth. That I mentioned product placement doesn't mean all the investors in films are advertising products or interested in the BO. There are a lot of investors in films, some minor and some major. Advertisers are also investors but it depends on what the agreement is on.

I don't know why you are centered on advertisers lol. Production companies are also part of investors. Take for example public liability companies where salary earners have shares in them, of course what they get might be little or different to what main shareholders get when the investment turns profit. Film business involves a lot of people in the financial category and in different angles. Not just the studio heads.

Alright Mr Investor,
Still doesn't stop the fact that DC films will continue to get made investor or not cos all this we are saying na merry-go-rounds.

abduleez1:


Alright Mr Investor,
Still doesn't stop the fact that DC films will continue to get made investor or not cos all this we are saying na merry-go-rounds.

It all depends on the films turning profit ASAP. Zaslav is not charitable. If the films keep on losing interest, them go pull the plug. Besides, I don't think you realize there's already a superhero fatigue creeping up. Just think of it in 2 angles not just the angle that after 2 films without profit, Zaslav won't start looking for alternatives. And please, if you want to use derogatory words, use it plainly, which one is Mr. Investor? Abi na cause I dey follow yarn?

Minemrys:

It all depends on the films turning profit ASAP. Zaslav is not charitable. If the films keep on losing interest, them go pull the plug. Besides, I don't think you realize there's already a superhero fatigue creeping up. Just think of it in 2 angles not just the angle that after 2 films without profit, Zaslav won't start looking for alternatives. And please, if you want to use derogatory words, use it plainly, which one is Mr. Investor? Abi na cause I dey follow yarn?

How is it derogatory? Abi person no dey follow you play? No be you dey shout investor and investment since?

Minemrys:

It all depends on the films turning profit ASAP. Zaslav is not charitable. If the films keep on losing interest, them go pull the plug. Besides, I don't think you realize there's already a superhero fatigue creeping up. Just think of it in 2 angles not just the angle that after 2 films without profit, Zaslav won't start looking for alternatives.

Permit me to add a little. While I don't believe they will completely stop making DC-based films, I do think they will slow down and pay close attention as time passes. A sizeable amount of their revenue is currently being invested in fresh creative concepts and the revival of other successful franchises from the past. As a result, I believe that although production of DC films will slow down, it will continue.

Lmao

TonySpike:
Lmao

It's the same character though.

SOZINN:



Permit me to add a little. While I don't believe they will completely stop making DC-based films, I do think they will slow down and pay close attention as time passes. A sizeable amount of their revenue is currently being invested in fresh creative concepts and the revival of other successful franchises from the past. As a result, I believe that although production of DC films will slow down, it will continue.

This is what I've been trying to tell him since.

Highest WB go just continue to reboot Batman over and over. People will complain but still troop to watch.

TonySpike:
Lmao

Lol, this was since Black Adam na....


What's the new info?

Kaycee7:
It's the same character though.

It's even funnier when you remember it's actually Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam where he and Hiram Garcia refused to infuse Shazam that they accepted she was included in it.

All the more hilarious when you realise Gunn took over as DC head on November, and Black Adam already premiered in theatres.

God will punish Warner Bros. Discovery

They're doing a radio silent marketing campaign for Blue Beetle...

I swear the marketing budget for Blue Beetle cannot pay my rent in Enugu

The first Latino live action CBM ever and WB are treating it like an afterthought

WB wanted to release two trailers today

Blue Beetle and Wonka

They dropped Wonka trailer on their YouTube channel...

I con dey look for Blue Beetle on YouTube, I no see am

It was on Twitter that I found it. But not on WB account or DC account

WB dey mad

BlackManta:
They're doing a radio silent marketing campaign for Blue Beetle...

I swear the marketing budget for Blue Beetle cannot pay my rent in Enugu

The first Latino live action CBM ever and WB are treating it like an afterthought

you can't blame them,
With what happened to the flash, if left to them they fit release blue beetle and aquaman 2 to Alaba international marketers and call it a day.

BlackManta:
WB wanted to release two trailers today

Blue Beetle and Wonka

They dropped Wonka trailer on their YouTube channel...

I con dey look for Blue Beetle on YouTube, I no see am

It was on Twitter that I found it. But not on WB account or DC account

WB dey mad

They finally released the second trailer

This movie looks really good.

Why is WB radio silent about this movie. I'm not saying they should market it like they did Flash, spending $150m and hyping it everywhere... No.

This movie needs a marketing push. Not expensive but enough to show that you believe in your movie and you want people to see it.

Trailer is solid. But I think they revealed too much.

Since WB has refused to do the needful they shouldn't expect miracles from this movie.

Whatever happens, Blue Beetle is officially a part of DCU. James Gunn likes him and wants to keep him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxyy8Rcz4k

BlackManta:


They finally released the second trailer

This movie looks really good.

Why is WB radio silent about this movie. I'm not saying they should market it like they did Flash, spending $150m and hyping it everywhere... No.

This movie needs a marketing push. Not expensive but enough to show that you believe in your movie and you want people to see it.

Trailer is solid. But I think they revealed too much.

Since WB has refused to do the needful they shouldn't expect miracles from this movie.

Whatever happens, Blue Beetle is officially a part of DCU. James Gunn likes him and wants to keep him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxyy8Rcz4k

Calma bro... WB main focus for now is BARBIE and their theatrical outlook for the year is somewhat bent on the movie over performing.

Once BARBIE is out of the way, Blue Beetle marketing will be in overdrive.
They've indeed ramped up marketing and the trailer looks good.
Yep, I agree with you that's it's revealing a little too much.

Seems it's closely connected to the DCU than we thought. It has Lex Corp headquarters directly close to to Kord Industries HQ.

Things are happening....

Superman Legacy looks promising and just shot up as my most anticipated of the new DCU. Nice cast and characters by the way.
This is how you fvvking build a universe.

abduleez1:
Things are happening....

Superman Legacy looks promising and just shot up as my most anticipated of the new DCU. Nice cast and characters by the way.
This is how you fvvking build a universe.

Lmao..all these hype no go lead to cry. Na my prayer for you...

TonySpike:


Lmao..all these hype no go lead to cry. Na my prayer for you...

Crying is allowed bro, just like you people dey cry since last year.... 😂😂😂

abduleez1:
Things are happening....

Superman Legacy looks promising and just shot up as my most anticipated of the new DCU. Nice cast and characters by the way.
This is how you fvvking build a universe.

James Gunn should keep his favouritism under control.

I know they are friends but why Nathan?

Wasn't he in The Suicide Squad which is canon to DCU?

100naira:
you can't blame them,
With what happened to the flash, if left to them they fit release blue beetle and aquaman 2 to Alaba international marketers and call it a day.

Lol. Very funny. At this stage, it's best to let the films sell themselves. I mean, no promotion will guarantee a film's progress in cinemas just as the Flash has proven.

BlackManta:


James Gunn should keep his favouritism under control.

I know they are friends but why Nathan?

Wasn't he in The Suicide Squad which is canon to DCU?

I always pictured Matt Damon as Guy Gardner though. But hey, news flash. The reason for recasting Cavill is basically to get cheaper casts. Part of the whole reboot was about money. Getting the likes of Cavill, Affleck, Gadot, Amy Adams etc now costs big bucks especially when the BO isn't forthcoming. Hence to beat cost, they want to maximize profit to make sure a huge chunk of the production budget doesn't go to paying the cast. That's why contracts weren't renewed. And the performance of the other films didn't instill hope of a massive profit. Right now, WBD are reportedly eager to start making profit.

abduleez1:



Crying is allowed bro, just like you people dey cry since last year.... 😂😂😂

I no dey cry o. These days, I just laugh at the stupidity of WB and their handling of DC movies.